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EXECUTIVE ORDER AND DASH TWO, FIVE DASH TWO ZERO GUIDANCE FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH ON GATHERINGS AND IN AN EFFORT TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF COVID-19 AND TO ENSURE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LA HARBOR PLANNING COMMISSION IS BEING CONDUCTED VIA TELECONFERENCE PLANNING COMMITTEE, CARERS AND STAFF ARE CALLING IN REMOTELY AND REMOTE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION CAN BE DONE AS FOLLOWS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
LET'S LOGGED IN THROUGH ZOOM NOTE THAT YOU ARE MUTED AND YOUR CAMERA'S TURNED OFF.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, PORTIONS OF THE AGENDA, USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND OPTION, OR IF DIALING IN BY PHONE PRESS STAR NINE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME INDICATED BY THE CHAIR AND YOU WILL BE SELECTED FROM THE MEETING QUEUE.
PLEASE KNOW THE SPEAKERS MUST LIMIT AT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES EACH AND THAT THE TOTAL TIME PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS 30 MINUTES.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL ALSO BE ACCEPTED BY EMAIL TO PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL ONE WORD@LAHABRACAALLONETERM.GOV.
SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL NOW CALL THE MEETING OFFICIALLY TO ORDER.
AND I'D ASK YOU ALL TO JOIN COMMISSIONER MILLENNIALS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WELL, I DO HAVE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL.
THIS IS COMMISSION SECRETARY CARMEN, CALLING ROLL COMMISSIONER, PAL COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BURNETT.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER BERNIER HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR MANLEY UP HERE.
YOU'LL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE 49, FIVE 4.3 SUB A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RE SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
SO AGAIN, THIS PORTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT IS ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF ADDRESSING ANYTHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS. TONIGHT, THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT AND THE RULES THERE ARE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT, BUT THIS IS ONLY TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW.
AND IF DIALING IN, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW AND WAIT TO BE ANNOUNCED.
AND VERONICA, WHEN YOU CAN LET US KNOW IF ANYONE IS HOLDING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND DO YOU SEE PEOPLE ON HOLD, BUT NO ONE WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL CLOSE ALL THE COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU'LL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOMA TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN TEACHER.
SO BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? COMMISSIONER MUNOZ? NO.
I BELIEVE THE ITEMS, BOTH THE ITEMS ARE JUST, ARE THEY JUST A MINUTES? YES.
SO THE, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ITEM AND IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES FOR JANUARY 11TH AND TONIGHT AS THE COMMISSION VOTES ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE'D ASK THAT FOR THE JULY 11TH MINUTES THAT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER BERNIER ABSTAINED FROM THAT VOTE BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING EITHER.
IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? USE YOUR, RAISE YOUR HAND OFFS FOR NOW, OR IF DIALING IN PRESS STAR NINE.
NOW LET US KNOW WHEN YOU CAN, VERONICA.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON HOLD, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER POWELL.
I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION MINUTES OF JANUARY 11TH, 2011, AS WELL AS THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION ASSOCIATED
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WITH COMMISSIONER BRUNNER'S EXCUSED ABSENCE.IS THERE A SECOND? THIS IS VICE CHAIRMAN LEE, NIKKI.
MANNY, A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL? WAIT A CHAIR.
I THINK IT WAS JASON THAT MADE THE SECOND, NOT ME.
OH, WAS IT? IS THAT RIGHT, JASON? THAT IS CORRECT.
YOU SOUND A LOT ALIKE SO THAT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT SECOND WAS BY VICE-CHAIR MANLY.
THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, CALLING ROLES.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL ANNOUNCE THE HEARING AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST.
AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED TO ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AFTER ALL IT'S SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSIONER WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE WAIT TO BE PROMPTED AND WOULD CALL.
PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF BY SLOWLY SPELLING OUT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
FIRST, I BELIEVE THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS CONSIDERATION OF DESIGN REVIEW TWO ZERO DASH ZERO THREE FOUR FACADE AT AN ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND ONCE YOU EIGHT ONE EAST LA HARBOR BOULEVARD, MAY WE PLEASE HAVE A REPORT? THE TURN OVARIAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? UH, THIS WAS ANDREW HOPE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS ITEM TONIGHT, IT'LL BE PRESENTED BY ASSOCIATE PLANNER.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I'M GOING TO BE SHARING MY SCREEN TO BRING UP THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
ONE MINUTE HERE TO SWITCH SCREENS.
IT'S NOT BRINGING UP MY PRESENTATION.
SORRY WITH THE DUAL SCREEN, IT MAKES IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED.
UM, GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THIS EVENING'S PROJECT IS A FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT INCLUDES PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS TO AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HARBOR AND LAHABRA BOULEVARD.
IT'S AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER THAT CONTAINS FIVE PARCELS, EACH OWNED BY FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND OVER THE YEARS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS APPROVED FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HARBOR FREIGHT BUILDING THE UNITED FITNESS WITH THE HEART DANCE STUDIO, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DRIVE-THRU STARBUCKS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PAD BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE STARBUCKS.
ALL THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS WERE DESIGNED AND APPROVED TO COMPLY WITH THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD, SPECIFIC PLANS, ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS.
THEY, THEY ALL PRESENT A UNIFORM APPEARANCE.
THE PROJECT FOR THIS EVENING'S CONSIDERATION IS THE BUILDING LOCATED ON THE PARCEL AT THE EASTERLY END OF THE CENTER.
AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS IMPROVED WITH A 9,900 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY CONTAINS SIX SUITES.
THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1979.
AND THE CURRENT LIST OF TENANTS INCLUDE ARTHUR'S COFFEE SHOP LOCATED AT THE NORTHERLY END OF THE BUILDING, A HAIR AND NAIL SALON, A TOBACCO STORE CHIROPRACTIC OFFICE AND A DENTAL
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OFFICE.THE PROPOSED PROJECT INCLUDES A FACADE REMODEL AND THE FACADE IN RA REMODEL INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF TOWER ELEMENTS ALONG THE WESTERLY BUILDING FACE THAT WILL BREAK UP THE LINEAR APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES PARAPET WALLS TO SCREEN THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT AS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING CODE.
THE FACADE ALSO INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF FABRIC AWNINGS, THE TOWER ELEMENTS, UH, MATERIALS AND COLORS THAT ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE FOUR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CENTER TO CREATE AN ARCHITECTURAL CONSISTENCY AMONGST THE BUILDINGS.
PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE TRASH ENCLOSURE.
THAT'S LOCATED NEAR THE HARBOR BOULEVARD AND UPGRADING THE EXISTING TRASH ENCLOSURE LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE ENLARGING THE LANDSCAPE PLANNER.
THAT'S LOCATED ALONG THE HARBOR BOULEVARD TO CREATE A 20 FOOT WIDE DRIVE-THROUGH AS REQUIRED BY CODE.
UH, THIS NOT ONLY IMPROVES ONSITE CIRCULATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, IT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL ONSITE LANDSCAPING.
THE MONUMENT SIGN IS ALSO GOING TO BE RELOCATED FURTHER NORTH TO PROVIDE A IMPROVED LINE OF SIGHT FOR VEHICLES EXITING THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IMPROVED, DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.
AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ALL ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
THESE ONLY CUTTER REQUIRES A 10 FOOT SEPARATION.
HOWEVER, THE BUILDING HAS BUILT ONLY PROVIDES FIVE FEET.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPERTY DOESN'T PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ONSITE LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.
THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES 7%, UM, AND THE PROJECT ONLY PROVIDES 2%.
THESE TWO ITEMS ARE PRE-EXISTING NON-PERFORMING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED VIA THE SPECIFIC PLANS, UM, CODE SECTION THAT AUTHORIZES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CRAN DEVIATIONS FROM PRESCRIBED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO PARCELS, WHICH BASED ON THE NATURE OF THEIR SIZE LOCATION, TOPOGRAPHY OR CONFIGURATION REQUIRE OVERALL PLANNING DESIGN IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OBJECTIVES OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
IN THIS CASE, THESE ARE PREEXISTING, UH, NON-PERFORMING ISSUES.
UM, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO REMOVE A PORTION OF THE BUILDING TO COMPLY WITH THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AND BASED ON THE EXISTING PARKING LOT LAYOUT.
THERE ISN'T SUFFICIENT SPACE TO ADD ADDITIONAL ONSITE LANDSCAPING.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS BE WAIVED AS PART OF A PROJECT, UM, PARKING ONSITE PARKING.
IT IS ADDRESSED VIA A ZONE VARIANCE, WHICH WAS APPROVED REDUCING ONSITE PARKING FOR THIS PARCEL FROM 57 SPACES TO 34 SPACES.
UM, IN ADDITION, THERE IS A PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL FIVE PARCELS THAT AUTHORIZES INGRESS AND EGRESS AS WELL AS PARKING.
UM, SO ALL THE FIVE PARCELS ALLOW PARKING TO BE, UH, ON DGC PARCELS AS WELL.
LASTLY, THE PROJECT INCLUDES A ONE-FOOT ENCROACHMENT ALONG LAMAR BOULEVARD.
UH, THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES, UH, PROJECTIONS, UM, UP TO ONE POINT THAT DON'T INVOLVE ANY USABLE FLOOR AREA.
THIS PROJECT INCLUDES A PROJECTION OF THE TOWER ELEMENT OR THE PI LASKER'S ENCROACHING INTO THE FRONT STEP BACK BY ONE FOOT.
UM, THIS FEATURE DOES NOT ADD ANY USABLE FLOOR AREA TO THE BUILDING AND IT'S JUST AN ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION.
UM, THE SPECIFIC PLAN ALLOWS ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS WITHIN THE FRONT SETBACK OF NO MORE THAN 36 INCHES.
SO THIS IS WITHIN ACCEPTABLE LIMITS.
AND THE FACADE DESIGN, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, THE COLORS MATERIALS, THEY'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW BOULEVARD, SPECIFIC PLAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
THESE WERE THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT WERE USED TO REVIEW THE OTHER BUILDINGS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTER.
THEY'RE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE APPLICANTS WITH OPTIONS IN ACHIEVING THE EARLY CALIFORNIA SPANISH STYLE ARCHITECTURE.
UM, THE PROPOSED FACADE COMPLIES WITH THOSE GUIDELINES, WITH THE USE OF EXTERIOR STUCCO, THE CERAMIC TILE, THE CLOTH AWNINGS, THE ARCHES INCORPORATE INTO THE DESIGN AND THE EARTH TONE COLORS WITH THE DECORATIVE WROUGHT IRON ACCENTS.
ALL THESE FEATURES ARE FOUND ON THE OTHER BUILDINGS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTER.
SO THIS DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CENTER.
SINCE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS CAN BE MADE.
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IS RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF DESIGNER VIEW 20 DASH ZERO THREE, AND I WILL STOP SHARING MY SCREEN HERE.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I DID RECEIVE TWO EMAILS, UH, REGARDING THE PROJECT, UM, WITH CONCERNS BASED ON THE DESIGN.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A, A MOMENT TO GO THROUGH TO, UM, THESE CONCERNS AND PROVIDE, UH, A BRIEF RESPONSE.
THE LETTER IS FROM MR. BRIAN FAST, AND THE BULLET POINTS OUTLINE PUBLIC SAFETY ELIMINATION OF VISIBLE SIGNAGE, DETAILED PLANS FOR PARKING REAR BUILDING DRAINAGE, TRASH CONTAINERS, AND ENCLOSURES AND NEW PAIR OF PAINT ROOFLINE AND POP-UP, UH, FACADES EXPOSED RESTAURANT AND PLUMBING EQUIPMENT.
SO, UH, BRIEFLY THE CONCERN REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, THE OUTLINE INCLUDES A 25 FOOT DRIVE AISLE THAT IS, UH, IN ACCORDANCE TO MR. FAST NON-COMPLIANCE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT THAT THE 25 FOOT DIMENSION IS A CODE REQUIREMENT FOR 90 DEGREE PARKING STALLS.
SO AS DESIGNED, IT ACTUALLY DOES COMPLY WITH CODE.
UM, THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS REGARDING ACCIDENTS AND CLOSE CALLS.
UM, PLANNING STAFF WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH THEY PROVIDED A MEMO THAT AS DESIGNED IT, UH, DID NOT CALL FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS OR ADDITIONS TO ADDRESS ANY SAFETY CONCERNS AS QUOTED IN THE LETTER.
UH, THE THIRD POINT IS, UM, REDUCING LINE OF SIGHT WITH THE PILLARS OR IN THIS CASE, THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, UM, THERE BASED ON THE SITE DESIGN, THERE'S ABOUT 93 FEET OF DISTANCE FROM
IN ADDITION, ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN, IF YOU NOTICE IT CALLS OUT FOR STOP SIGNS ALONG THE TWO, UM, IT WOULD BE THE STRIPED AREAS FOR THE ACCESSIBLE SPACES.
IT PROVIDES FOUR STOP SIGNS AT BOTH ENDS, MEANING VEHICLES WOULD HAVE TO STOP BEFORE MOVING FORWARD, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PROTECTED WALK WAY FOR PEDESTRIANS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW THAT IS BEING ADDED TO THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOR PERSONS TO BE ABLE TO WALK ON A PROTECTED, UM, AT THE TRIBAL WITH VEHICLES HAVING TO STOP BEFORE MOVING FORWARD.
THE BULLET POINT REGARDING THE ELIMINATION OF VISIBLE SIGNAGE, UM, THE PROPERTY DOES INCLUDE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES A MASTER ASSIGNED PROGRAM.
THE MASTER SIGNED PROGRAM IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE PROPERTY UNDER SOME FLEXIBILITY.
AND STAFF IS GOING TO VERIFY AT THE SAME PROGRAM IS IN PERFORMANCE WITH THE LA HARBOR BOULEVARD, SPECIFIC PLANS REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNAGE.
WE'RE ABLE TO REGULATE THE LOCATION SIGNAGE AND THE SIGNAGE AREA DOING A QUICK CALCULATION OF THE SIGNAGE AREA.
THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BUILDING VERSUS WHAT MAY BE PROVIDED OR ALLOWED.
UM, THE HURRICANE IS APPROXIMATELY 148 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS FOR THREE, UM, CABINET SIGNS, AND THEN THE LONG LINEAR CABINET SIGN DOING A QUICK CALCULATION.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN ACTUALLY WOULD ALLOW FOR 158 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY INCREASING THE SIGNAGE AREA.
IN ADDITION, THEN THE MONUMENT SIGN, THE MONUMENT SIGNS THAT PRECISE LOCATION IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE MASTER PROGRAM, UH, THE MAIN CRITERIA BEING LINE OF SIGHT FOR VEHICLES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, ADVERTISING AREA.
UM, THE MONUMENT SIGN IS ALSO GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO INCORPORATE THE COLORS, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FACADE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, SO GOING ON TO THE PARKING DRAINAGE AND TRASH CONTAINER, UM, WE HAVE VERIFIED WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT IS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE IS SUBSTANDARD IN SIZE.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED VIA THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT REQUIRE TRASH ENCLOSURES PLANS TO BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER
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AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.SO WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS, UM, THE SIZE OF IT.
UH, AND, UH, WE'LL BE APPROVED THROUGH THE PLAN CHECK PROCESS.
IF IT'S SUBSTANDARD, IT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE UPGRADED TO MEET CURRENT STANDARDS.
UM, THE, THE COMMENT REGARDING THE DIRT BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND CONSTANT FLOODS, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE A PROPERTY MANAGER OR PROPERTY, UH, UH, PROPERTY OWNER TO BE DISCUSSED WITH THE TENANT TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT.
THE PROPERTY MANAGER PROPERTY OWNER WOULD THEN PROVIDE US WITH THEIR COURSE OF ACTION.
AND WE WOULD VERIFY THAT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE COURSE, UH, AND ALSO VERIFY THE BUILDING PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
AND THE LAST COMMENT REGARDING THE PARAPET ROOF LINE, UM, THE FACADE AS PROPOSED, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST COMMENTS THAT IT INCORPORATE A PARAPET WALL TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.
UM, SO AS PROPOSED THAT THAT'S THE INTENT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEGINNING WITH COMMISSIONER AMMONIA? NO QUESTIONS.
I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OVER THE YEARS, UH, WITH THAT, UH, ALLEYWAY EAST OF IT HAS BEEN, UH, GRAFFITI.
UH, I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS PATROL IT AND ALSO THE, THE, UH, GRAFFITI REMOVAL FOLKS.
IS THAT, THAT ACCESS TO THAT LITTLE NARROW FIVE FOOT ALLEY TO THE REAR THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN OPEN.
ON THE PROJECT PLANS, IT DOES SPECIFY THE FIVE FOOT DIMENSION.
HOWEVER, THERE WASN'T A NOTE AS TO ITS FUNCTION OR USE, UM, THE, THE BUILDING HAS DESIGNED, THERE ARE NO REAR DOORS THAT WOULD ACCESS THAT AREA.
SO YOU MAYBE USE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE ROOF.
UM, BUT NOT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT SPACE.
AND IN TERMS OF, UH, THE, UH, THE PARKING LOT, YOU, YOU INDICATED THAT THE PARKING SURVEY, UH, WAS, UH, ADEQUATE BASED UPON THE CALCULATIONS AND THAT IT WAS 34 SPACES.
IS THAT, DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? YOU WERE, I KNOW THE STAFF REPORTS I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO IT.
THE THERE'S A VARIANCE ACTIVE VARIANCE ON THE PROPERTY THAT REDUCED THE PARKING FROM 57 SPACES TO 34 SPACES, TWO 34 SPACES.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THAT EMAIL THAT YOU RECEIVE WITH REGARD TO THE ROOF, UM, I WAS A LITTLE VAGUE ON WHAT THE CONCERN WAS THAT WAS RAISED IT'S I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CONCERN WAS.
UM, UH, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IT APPEARS THE CONCERN IS THAT THE NEW FACADE IS SPECIFICALLY THE PARAPET IS NOT TALL ENOUGH TO SCREEN THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM VISIBILITY.
SO MORE OF AN EXCHANGE, A STATIC FACTOR, THEN A CONCERN FOR AESTHETICS ON THE NEW PAIR.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, IDEAL BACKED BY TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER POWER, VICE CHAIRMAN.
UM, DAVID, YOU MENTIONED REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING, UM, AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 2% VERSUS THE 7% WHERE I THINK THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THERE, UM, AND THERE'S, UH, A VARIANCE IN PLACE, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AS I THINK HOW YOU WORDED IT, CORRECT? YES.
UM, IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL VARIANCE
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WHERE WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GRANTED DEVIATION, UM, AND THIS IS UNIQUE TO THE LA ROLL LORD SPECIFIC PLAN WHERE IT PROVIDES THE COMMISSION TO GRANT THESE, UH, WAIVERS, NOT NECESSARILY A VARIANCE, BUT A WAIVER TO ANYTHING OR ANY PROPERTY THAT IS EXISTING NON-PERFORMING OR IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NO WAY TO COMPLETELY COMPLY.AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED, THE WAY THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED AND THE PARKING LOT, IT IT'S AN EXISTING SITE CONSTRUCTION THAT ALLOWS FOR COMPLAINTS.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR, FOR COMPLIANCE, IS THAT, IS THAT ENTIRELY ACCURATE THAT THERE, THERE COULD BE NOTHING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD DO.
UM, SO GET THAT IN COMPLIANCE, CORRECT.
LOOKING AT THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, LAYOUT, THE REQUIRED DISTANCES FOR PARKING SPACES, THE BACKUP AREA, UH, THE PATH OF TRAVEL.
IT DOESN'T LEAVE SUFFICIENT AREA TO BE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
UM, WE'VE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO ENLARGE THE LANDSCAPE PLANNER ALONG THE HARBOR BOULEVARD TO PROVIDE MORE ONSITE LANDSCAPING.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A LANDSCAPE PLANNER THAT'S LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT'S NOT ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE, WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS, BUT THERE'S JUST NO AREA AVAILABLE TO, TO MAKE IT WORK.
WHERE WOULD THE PARAMETERS OF THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, EXTEND TO THE IS FOR PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING.
SO IT'S ANY SURFACE AREA THAT IS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT FIELD.
SO, UM, THE PLAN HAS PROPOSED, IT DOES SHOW LANDSCAPE PLANNERS WITHIN THE PARKING SPACES TO TWO AREAS WITHIN THE PARKING SPACES, ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
WHAT WAS IT, WHAT WAS THE AREA THAT YOU REFERENCED ON THE NORTH SIDE? THERE'S A LANDSCAPE PLANNER, UH, THAT'S LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
IT'S BORDERING THIS PARCEL TO THE PARCEL THAT INCLUDES THE UNITED FITNESS AND THE DANCE STUDIO.
AND IT GETS KIND OF CLOUDY BECAUSE TWO PARCELS, MAYBE EVEN THREE PARCELS IN THE SAME, THE PARKING LOT, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT LANDSCAPE PLANNER IS NOT ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY FOUND ON THE SUBJECT PARCEL SO THAT DOESN'T GET COUNTED.
I THINK I'M GOOD FOR NOW CHAIR.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, PLEASE USE THE RAISE YOUR HAND OPTION, OR IF DIALING IN BY PHONE PRESS STAR NINE NOW AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL GET TO THOSE IN OPPOSITION, BUT THIS, AT THIS MOMENT, WE'RE HEARING ONLY FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND VERONICA.
UH, LET ME KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYBODY HOLDING FOR THAT PURPOSE, OR IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL EMAILS TO READ INTO THE RECORD OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.
I DO SEE, WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS RAISED HER HAND WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
UH, IT SHOWS UP AS A PHONE NUMBER (949) 562-9978.
I'M GOING TO UNMUTE YOU, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF ON YOUR END.
IF YOU'RE CALLING IN VIA PHONE DIAL STAR SIX AND BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SLOWLY SPELL OUT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
GO AHEAD, SPEAKER AGAIN, DIAL STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
HI, MY NAME IS MIKE LIN, L I N.
UM, I'M WITH TROY HARVARD DEVELOPMENT, THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND, UM, JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, MR. LOPEZ FOR A VERY THOROUGH, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK THAT WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS PROJECT TO, UH, BRING THIS PROPERTY TO THE UPDATED LOOK OF THE REST OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND I FEEL THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE.
WE'VE GONE SEVERAL TIMES BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL.
AND, UM, OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SUPPORTED AND WE WOULD REALLY, UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, BRING THIS DATA CENTER OF, TO MODERN LOOK.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. LEN, BEFORE YOU GO, LET ME ASK VERY BRIEFLY.
IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MUNOZ,
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NO QUESTIONS.THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PAUL, NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, MANLEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LAN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE RAISING THEIR HAND TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL VERONICA, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS MOMENT.
PLEASE USE THE RAISE AND BY FALLING AGAIN NOW AND WAIT TO STAR SIX ANYWAY, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND AND, UH, GIVE US YOUR INFORMATION AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY THERE.
SO FAR THERE'S ONE PERSON BRIAN, FAST.
I'M GOING TO UNMUTE YOU AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, PLEASE.
BEFORE YOU ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SLOWLY SPELL OUT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
WELL, MY VIDEO, MY VIDEO IS NOT CONNECTING FOR SOME REASON.
SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, THERE WE GO.
THIS IS BRIAN FAST, B R I A N F A S T.
UH, BUSINESS ADDRESS 1281 EAST SLOBBER BOULEVARD.
I'VE UH, OWNED AND OPERATED ARTHUR'S COFFEE SHOP FOR 38 YEARS.
UM, APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE BOARD AND THANK YOU TO MR. LOPEZ.
UM, I AM TAKING ISSUE WITH JUST ONE QUICK SECOND, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THAT PROBABLY BE THREE HOURS BOOK THOUGH.
WE RECEIVED YOUR EMAIL, SO PROBABLY DID REBOOT AND SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE POINTS, BUT EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER ALSO RECEIVED THE EMAIL HOURS AGO AND READ IT.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE DRESSED ASSURED THAT, THAT WE POURED OVER THAT EMAIL AND WE UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTAND THERE'S ONE OF THE GO AHEAD.
THE, UH, VIDEO FEED IS BREAKING UP.
SO WE'RE THE MODERN ERA IS KIND OF, UH, THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE ARE BOTHERING, UH, JUMPING AT THE MOMENT.
WELL, WITH REGARD TO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE SIGNAGE, UM, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE POINT ABOUT, UM, MOVING THE MONUMENT SIGN FARTHER OFF OF LAHABRA BOULEVARD TO IMPROVE SIGHT LINES FOR VEHICLES EXITING 1281 EAST LAHABRA.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO IMPROVEMENT OF SIGHT LINES, UH, BY MOVING THAT MONUMENT SIGN, UH, FOR IN FACT, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE EXITING THAT PROPERTY AND TURN RIGHT, LOOKING WEST UP LAHABRA BOULEVARD, YOU WILL SEE ALL OF LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND YOU WILL SEE THE CARS EXITING FROM THE DRIVEWAY AT WINGSTOP.
UH, IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR LEFT, UH, TO LOOK TO WESTBOUND TRAFFIC, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE SIGN IS OFF TO YOUR RIGHT, AND THAT IS A NON-ISSUE, UH, BY THE SUGGESTION TO, UM, TO INTRODUCE SOME TOKEN LANDSCAPING AND PUT IT IN THE CURRENT POSITION WHERE THE MONUMENT SIGN IS PUSHING THE SIGN 30 OR 40 FEET INLAND ELIMINATES THE VISUAL OF THE SIGN FROM WESTBOUND TRAFFIC, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIMITED AND EVEN DECREASES AT SOME EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON LAHABRA BOULEVARD.
SO, UM, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT CONCLUSION WAS MADE.
UH, WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE SUGGESTED STOP SIGNS OR ANY OF THAT.
UM, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, UH, YEAH, PUBLIC PLANS ONLY BECAME AVAILABLE LAST THURSDAY.
AND, UM, AS A RESTAURANT OPERATOR, I'VE KIND OF HAD A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO.
SO I WROTE THAT EMAIL IN TWO HOURS THIS AFTERNOON.
AND I, UH, BEFORE I FINISH, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE VENT PIPES.
THEY ARE THE, THE PARAPET WALL IS I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT TO BE ADDRESSED FOR ARCHITECTURAL REASONS.
THE PLUMBING GAS THAT COMES OUT OF THOSE NUMEROUS PIPES, WHICH HAVE EXTENSIONS ON THEM CAN BE SEEN BY THE,
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IF YOU STAND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, THEY ARE SCATTERED AND RANDOM.AND THE, THE ONLY REASON YOU'VE PROBABLY NEVER SEEN THEM IS BECAUSE THE PARAPET WALL WAS RAISED UP, UH, TO HAVE THE CURRENT ROOFLINE ABOVE MY RESTAURANT.
SO UNLESS, UM, UNLESS THE BEHAVIOR OF PLUMBING, GAS CHANGED, THEN IT, ALL OF THOSE VENT EXTENSIONS CAN BE, WE REMOVED.
THEN THE ROOF LINE IS GOING TO BE LOWERED AND YOU, THE PUBLIC WILL ONCE AGAIN SEE ALL OF THE VENT EXTENSIONS THAT THE CITY HAD A PROBLEM WITH IN 83.
UM, CONSIDERING AGAIN, UH, THE MODERN ERA, ALL OF THE, UH, THE SHORT, UM, REVIEW TIME THAT, UH, MYSELF AND MY TENANTS HAVE HAD ONE OF WHICH IS STRUGGLING WITH COVID I'M, UH, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A 30 DAY CONTINUANCE SO WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
UM, UM, IT, IT SEEMS APPARENT THAT A LOT OF GOOD WORK HAS BEEN DONE AT THE DESK AT CITY HALL NOW CLOSED, AND, UM, IT'D BE HELPFUL AND INAPPROPRIATE IF SOME VISITS WERE MADE TO THAT PROPERTY AND VIEWED IT FROM ACROSS THE STREET, BY THE UNDEVELOPED BIRCH FORD PROPERTY, VIEWED IT FROM ACROSS THE STREET ON LAHABRA BOULEVARD, MORE IMPORTANTLY, DRIVE BY IT AND DRIVE THROUGH THE CENTER.
I THINK, UH, AFTER 38 YEARS OF DOING BUSINESS, UH, IT'S APPROPRIATE AND FAIR THAT I ASKED THAT.
WELL, THANK YOU, MR. FAST, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE.
AND WE'D LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR RESTAURANT IS KIND OF A LEGENDARY EATING ESTABLISHMENT IN LAHABRA AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED PRESENCE IN LA BARBARA.
UH, GREAT FOOD BEFORE I LET YOU GO.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU BRIEFLY, UH, COMMISSIONER MUNOZ, ANYTHING? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PAUL, NO QUESTIONS.
AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS MR. FAST AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME.
UH, DID YOU MIND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EMAIL AS WELL? WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE, VERONICA, AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL, YES, WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
UH, I'M GOING TO SPELL THE NAME.
I'M GOING TO UNMUTE YOU AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA ON YOUR END, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
AND BEFORE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, PLEASE SLOWLY SPELL OUT YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
GO AHEAD, MR. SHAKUR, YOU'RE THERE.
JEFF IN CHUBB IN THERE SINCE LAST 2007.
AND I AGREE WITH WHAT MOST OF THE BRANDS SAID, AND THE THING IS REGARDING THE SIGN, BECAUSE IF IT GOES INSIDE, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN SEE IT, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, ELDERLY PEOPLE, THE SIGN WILL NOT BE VISIBLE, ESPECIALLY THE THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THE SAME AREA.
SO YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING THERE.
THEN IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO LOCATE INSIDE.
SECOND, THE DISTANCE, EVEN VC THE PARKING, GET IT ALREADY THE SPACE WHEN THEY BACK UP THE CAR IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THE REASON SOME PILLARS IS GOING TO COME IN FORWARD, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'LL BE LESS PAY.
AND CHANCES OF GETTING ACCIDENTS ARE MORE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A LOT OF, EVEN THE NEIGHBOR AND OUR, WE HAVE A LOT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ELDERLY PEOPLE ABOUT 80 AND ALL.
SO THE VISIBLY, THAT'S PROBABLY A BIT DECREASING THE FOOTAGE AND ALL.
SO I THINK I AGREE WITH BRIAN.
AND IF YOU CAN CONSIDER SAME THING, LIKE, AS IT SAYS, GIVE THE TIME AND THAT CAN BE TAKEN TIME TO RECONSIDER THE THINGS, YOU KNOW.
AM I SAYING IT CORRECTLY? IS IT SHOT MR. SHAW OR NO? YEAH.
DON'T GET THE JOB, BUT I'M RUNNING A DENTAL OFFICE, RIGHT? SAME AREA.
HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
OH, BEFORE YOU GO, DOCTOR, HANG ON ONE QUICK.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? SO THIS GENTLEMEN, COMMISSIONER MONOS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PAUL, NO QUESTIONS.
SHAW, ANYBODY ELSE HOLDING A WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? AS FAR AS YOU CAN TELL VERONICA, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME.
SO WE SHALL NOW I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL CALL
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ON THE COMMISSIONERS.DO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND, OR OFFER ANY COMMENTS.
JUST GLAD TO SEE, UM, THE SHOPPING CENTER KIND OF HAVE MORE COHESIVENESS THROUGHOUT, SO GLAD TO SEE SOME TYPE OF, UM, IMPROVEMENT ONSITE.
IS IT NEITHER JERRY? I YOU'RE, YOU'RE BREAKING UP THERE AND I CAN'T HEAR ALL RIGHT.
I, IF I COULD TALK, IF ANDREW IS ON, ON THE LINE, THIS REQUESTS FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT? UH, ANDREW, UM, I THINK THE PROJECT LOOKS GOOD.
I THINK THE, I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS MEET CODE NOW, WHICH WE NEED TO KEEP THEM COVID.
IS, IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE TO W WHAT WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION TO HAVING A 30 DAY EXTENSION ANDREW? UM, I, I WOULD PROBABLY REFER BACK TO THE SPEAKERS, UH, ASKING FOR THE INTENT OF THE 30 DAY, UH, EXTENSION, UH, FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY MORE WORK TO PUT INTO THE, UM, WE WOULD MERELY ASK THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE TENANTS TO TALK WITH EACH OTHER.
SOUNDS LIKE THE MAIN CRUX OF THE SITE LINE ISN'T RELATED TO TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S THE SIGHT LINE FROM, UH, DRIVERS ON LAHABRA BOULEVARD, SEEING THE SIGN ITSELF, UM, AS A CONDITION TO THIS PROJECT, UM, WHAT THE COMMISSION'S APPROVING TONIGHT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE FINAL LOCATION OF THE SIGNAGE ITSELF.
UM, AND SO THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TENANTS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO WORK TOGETHER, TO SUBMIT A FINAL SIGN PROGRAM WITH THE FINAL LOCATION OF THAT SIGN, A MONUMENT SIGN, UM, TO THE CITY FOR, FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UM, IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MONUMENT SIGN, UM, NOT BLOCKING ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGHT LINES FROM THEIR DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT FROM THE TWO SPEAKERS, UH, THE MONUMENT SIGN, HOWEVER, DOES HAVE, UH, UH, SIGHTLINE ISSUES TO THE FIRM, TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE, UH, WEST WHERE THE WINGSTOP CLOSER TO THE WINGSTOP PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN FIND A, PROBABLY A HAPPY PLACE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TUCKED ALL THE WAY BACK, SO IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM LAHABRA BOULEVARD.
WE CAN WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING DIVISION TO LOCATE THAT SIGN, WHERE THERE'S, UH, UH, A SAFE MIX FOR THE DRIVERS TO PULL OUT.
AND ALSO IT'S VISIBLE ENOUGH FOR PATRONS AND CLIENTS TO SEE THE SIGN LOUD AND PROUD AND, AND, AND DRIVE INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND SO THAT FLEXIBILITY IS THERE AND YOU'VE EXTENDED THAT FLEXIBLE WE'LL EXTEND THAT FLEXIBILITY, UH, WHEN, WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
IF, IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO VOTE ON THE MATTER TONIGHT, UM, DAVID WILL REACH OUT TO BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE TENANTS, UM, AND MAKE IT CLEAR TO BOTH OF THEM THAT WE WOULD WANT THEM TO MEET, DISCUSS.
UM, AND BEFORE SUBMITTING THAT SIGN PROGRAM, UH, UH, COME TO AN AGREEMENT, UH, BEFORE IT GETS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.
AND WITH RESPECT TO ONE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, THE VISIBILITY FACTOR ON THE ROOF, UH, UH, APPARATUS THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UM, THERE WAS SOME IMPLICATION THAT MY QUESTION WAS, UH, STATIC MINUS THE VIEW IN THE COMMENT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT SPOKE ABOUT, OR THE OWNERS SPOKE ABOUT WAS THE VIEW FROM THE NORTH LOOKING SOUTH ON THAT PARTICULAR SIDE.
AND, AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
I DIDN'T HEAR DAVID SAY, YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AT ALL, THAT THIS, THIS, UH, THIS VIEW, UH, BOTH MEETS THE CONDITIONS AND THE, UH, LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN IN TERMS OF VISUAL ACUITY OF, OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE, UH, THE ROOF.
IS THAT, IS THAT A CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS GOING TO BE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT BE SCREENED, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON
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THE ARCHITECT TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.UM, WHAT THE, UH, SPEAKER BRIAN FAST HAD INDICATED THAT CORRECTLY.
SO IN REVIEWING THE PLANS IS THAT THE CURRENT, UH, HEIGHT OF THE PARAPET AT ARTHUR'S IS ABOUT, AND DOUBLE CHECK ME ON THIS.
DAVID THAT'S ABOUT 20 FEET HIGH, THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THE PROPOSED, THE SODDEN PLACEMENT, LOWER OF THAT PAIR OF IT TO ABOUT MAYBE 16 FEET.
SO I THINK MR. FASTS CONCERNS THAT THE REDUCTION OF THAT PARAPET BY FOUR FEET WILL EXPOSE THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE DEVELOPERS HIRED PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS TO DESIGN A FACADE IMPROVEMENT WITH THE STANDARD OF SCREENING ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT IN MIND.
UM, AS WE GO THROUGH PLAN CHECK, WE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DURING THAT PHASE TO ENSURE THAT THAT CONDITION IS MET.
UM, AND WE'LL ASK FOR THOSE DETAILS.
AND IF, UH, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS SCREENED, UH, WE WILL ASK DURING FINE CHECK TO RAISE THE PARAPET, UM, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE ARCHITECT, UH, FIGHT THAT COMMENT, UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION PHASE, IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE WALK AROUND THE PROPERTY AND WE SEE THE ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT, UH, WE'LL ISSUE A STOP WORK ORDER, AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, WE STILL SEE RICK POP EQUIPMENT, UH, RAISE THE PARAPET.
SO, UM, EITHER PUT IN THE WORK NOW AND OVERBUILD IT, OR WAIT FOR CORRECTIONS AND STOP WORK AND, AND ALL THAT.
THANK YOU, ANDREW, DEREK, THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD DESIGN AND, UH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE VIEW THAT IT PRESENTS FOR, UH, FOR THAT PART OF OUR CITY, THAT, THAT, UH, EASTERN PART OF OUR CITY, UH, MR. CHAIR, I YIELD BACK.
UM, I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU, ANDREW, UM, IN THAT SCENARIO THAT YOU OUTLINED WHERE THE FINAL SIGNED PLAN, UM, HASN'T BEEN SUBMITTED YET, AND AT SOME POINT WOULD BE SUBMITTED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE TENANTS, UM, A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
UH, AND THEN WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT GO FROM THERE? LET ME REFER THIS QUESTION TO DAVID OR ROY IS, IS THE FINAL SIGN PROGRAM.
IS, DOES THIS HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION OR CAN, UH, IS IT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY STAFF? I CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
UM, MASTER'S SIDE PROGRAMS ARE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, SO IT WOULD BE FINAL THAT A STAFF LEVEL, BUT I I'D LIKE TO CHIME IN THAT AS A COURTESY.
THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE FINAL PLAN BEFORE WE APPROVE IT, TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INPUT.
I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.
UM, I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT THE DESIGN AND THE COHESIVENESS, LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER MUNOZ MENTIONED AND TYING THAT, YOU KNOW, ENTIRE CENTER TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, BUT I, I DO GET THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE THERE MAYBE A LITTLE, UH, NO DIVISION BETWEEN THE, THE TENANTS WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS IN OUR CITY THERE AND, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER AND, UM, SEEING THEM COME TOGETHER AND, AND COME UP WITH A VIABLE SOLUTION FOR, FOR EVERYBODY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE TOO MUCH TO ASK.
UM, AND IF, IF THAT WERE TO BE ABLE TO HAPPEN AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO IF, UH, I GUESS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING SHARE IS, UM, MAYBE A, AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION TO A RESOLUTION WE MIGHT MOVE TONIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO HANDLE IT.
THAT ADD A CONDITION, ASKING THAT IT BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO STAFF'S FINAL ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
UM, ONE, ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU AND YOU KIND OF MENTIONED IT, THERE'S A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE ON SIGNS IN A CENTER THAT ARE BASICALLY PRIVATE BUSINESS MATTERS BETWEEN THE TENANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
ALL WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PLANT WITH THE CODE.
IT'S, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING
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AT IT AS BEING THE MIDDLEMAN.UM, YOU KNOW, IF KICKING ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OVER EITHER ONE OF THOSE PARTIES, CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PUT OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION.
SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT THAT YOU WOULD SEE TO BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION? THEN IT, IT, IT JUST GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS OR CURIOUS AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WITHIN THE CODE, UM, THEN CERTAINLY WE CAN HAVE THEM MODIFY THE PLAN TO REFLECT THAT.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE CODE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO OF COURSE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IS THERE A VALUE THAT YOU GUYS SEEM TO BE IN POTENTIALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY UP TO WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO.
FOR, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE BREAK, HAVING THE ASSIGNED PROGRAM COME BACK, PUTS YOU IN A POSITION TO CHOOSE SIDES.
AT ONE POINT, IF, IF TENANT AND LANDLORD ARE AN IMPASSE AND IT PUTS YOU IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION WHERE YOU'D BE ASKING STAFF FOR GUIDANCE AND STAFF IS ONLY GOING TO BE PROVIDE INFORMATION, WHETHER IT COMPLIES OR IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
AND, UM, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD ACTUALLY DEFER BACK TO STAFF ON THAT, UH, MYSELF AND HEARING, HEARING YOU SAY THAT ROY, THE MORE I HEAR YOU KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT, UM, THE MORE I CAN UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, SO I, I, MYSELF, UM, DON'T SEE A NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION.
UM, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT IS A VERY GOOD LOOKING, UH, PROJECT.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THE INTEREST OF ANYBODY WOULD BE PARTICULARLY SERVED BY CONTINUANCE.
I THINK THERE'S SUFFICIENT FLEXIBILITY INHERENT IN THIS PROCESS TO, UH, NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE A FURTHER CONDITION.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF GOOD CONCERNS AND POINTS OF CONTENTION WERE RAISED, UH, FROM THE TENANTS.
AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN WELL ADDRESSED BY STAFF.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE AND THAT'S ALL I'LL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO CHAIRMAN, THIS IS JERRY PAUL WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I WOULD MOVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW, 20 DASH OH THREE FOR FACADE AND ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT ONE, TWO EIGHT ONE EAST LA HARBOR BOULEVARD, AS PER APPROVED PLANS, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? PAUL SECOND COMMISSIONER MUNOZ.
A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER POWELL AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MUNOZ.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL THIS COMMISSION SECRETARY CARMEN CALLING ROLL COMMISSIONER PAL.
THIS ITEM HAS PASSED AND THE ACTION WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FINAL OUT OF A 10 WORKING DAYS.
UH, ARE THERE ANY CONSIDERATION ITEMS TONIGHT? NO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS ROY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR CAUSE I DON'T.
I THINK CARMEN WAS BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE ZOO.
THE ITEM IS FINAL AND 10 DAYS IN, LESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT GOING DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL.
YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, ROY.
UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM STAFF? UH, YES.
UH, THE CHAIRMAN IS ERA AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
WE'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THE COMMISSION TONIGHT CLOSE IN MEMORY OF, UH, COMMISSIONER MICHELLE BURNER'S MOTHER, UH, IRENE HOREZ IRENE PASSED AWAY FROM COMPLICATIONS RELATED TO COVID ON JANUARY 12TH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANDREW FOR THAT.
AND WE OF COURSE WILL DO SO WHEN I ADJOURN, I'LL MAKE THAT ON THE RECORD.
UH, ANY FURTHER, UH, COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER PAL? NO COMMENT, NO COMMENT.
SO THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED IN THE MEMORY OF IRENE WORTHINESS.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT I'M SURE I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE EXTEND PROFOUND AND SINCERE CONDOLENCES.
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BYE.