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[ CALL TO ORDER: Council Chamber INVOCATION: City Attorney Jones PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Councilmember Shaw ROLL CALL: Mayor Espinoza Mayor Pro Tem Medrano Councilmember Gomez Councilmember Shaw Councilmember Simonian]
WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF APRIL, 1920 21.LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IT IS 6:30 PM.
THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY CITY ATTORNEY RICHARD JONES FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SHAW.
IF YOU WOULD ALL, PLEASE RISE, ASK YOU TO PLEASE, UH, VAL, YOUR HEADS, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE GATHERED THIS EVENING WITH GRATITUDE IN OUR HEARTS.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER HERE AND CELEBRATE DEMOCRACY.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH THE BUSINESS FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA.
THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL WHO ACT WITH INTEGRITY AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE, FOR ALL INTEREST OF LAHABRA.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN PUBLIC SERVICE, WHO REACH OUT IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME AND ARE ON THE FRONT LINE, DEALING WITH THE MANY CHALLENGES FORTH BY THE PANDEMIC.
WE ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER THIS COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRIVE AND THAT OUR ECONOMY WILL GET STRONG.
WE SAY THESE SIX, HEAVENLY MY NAME.
PLEASE FACE THE FLAG AND JOIN ME IN RESETTING YOUR PLEDGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THE CLERK, PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, MAYOR PRO TEM MEDRANO, MAYOR ESPINOSA.
HERE, ARE THERE ANY CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1. PRESENTATION BY CALIFORNIA DOMESTIC WATER COMPANY]
TO PROCLAMATION AND PRESENTATION, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM CALIFORNIA DOMESTIC WATER COMPANY.AND THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, TODAY I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF CALIFORNIA DOMESTIC WATER COMPANY.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS SINCE MY LAST PRESENTATION.
SO I'M REAL EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY AND GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED ME THE OPPORTUNITY JUST QUICK SUMMARY AND HIGHLIGHTS.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THE COMPANY'S OPERATIONS AT A GLANCE, DISCUSS SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE COMPANY'S 2020 STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WAS ENTITLED COLLABORATION, COMMUNITY AND COMMITMENT.
MAY I ASK, CAN I TAKE OFF MY MASK WHILE I'M PRESENTING? IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME.
AND THEN I'LL DISCUSS SOME, SOME DETAILS REGARDING WATER SUPPLY AS IT RELATES TO PER AND POLY FLORAL SUBSTANCES.
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS P PHOS, WHICH IS A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW IN THE WATER INDUSTRY.
AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW THE CITY OF LA HAVAS WATER CONSUMPTION AND AN AVERAGE TOTAL COST OF WATER DELIVERIES.
NEXT SIDE, THE COMPANY'S OPERATIONS AT A GLANCE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE START OUR CONVEYANCE IN THE ELMANI AND CITY OF INDUSTRY AREAS.
AND THEN WE CONVEY THAT WATER APPROXIMATELY 25 MILES TO SUBURBAN WATER SYSTEMS, CITY OF LA HABRA AND CITY OF BRAD.
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT RESERVOIRS THAT WE MAINTAIN AND THE CAPACITIES OF THOSE RESERVOIRS.
OVERALL, WE PRODUCE BETWEEN 16,000 AND 20,000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR, WHICH IS MORE THAN 6 BILLION GALLONS.
WE ALSO SAMPLE ALL OF THE WATER QUALITY AND ENSURE THAT THE 2000 SAMPLES THAT ARE COLLECTED ARE THEN REPORTED AND KEPT WITH THE STATE.
NEXT SLIDE FOR THE 2020 STRATEGIC PLAN, COMMUNITY COLLABORATION AND COMMITMENT, AND THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE OF THE COMPANY, AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REVIEWED THE COMPANY'S MISSION, VISION AND CORE VALUES.
OVERALL, OUR MISSION REMAINS THE SAME TO ENSURE THAT OUR SHAREHOLDERS RECEIVE A HIGH QUALITY, RELIABLE WATER SUPPLY AT A SUSTAINABLE AND REASONABLE PRICE.
THE CONTINUED VISION FOR THE COMPANY INCLUDES TO CONTINUALLY BUILD AND SUSTAIN THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO PROVIDE THE SHAREHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE, WITH A RESILIENT WATER SUPPLY AND DIVERSE WATER RIGHTS PORTFOLIO FOR NOW.
AND IN THE FUTURE, OUR CORE VALUES WERE ESTABLISHED TO BE RELIABLE AND TRUSTED SERVICE COLLABORATION AND TEAMWORK, REGIONAL AND INDUSTRY LEADERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY.
AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE IDENTIFIED OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO BE FOCUSING ON DEVELOPING THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT WOULD SUPPORT OUR MISSION, VISION, AND CORE VALUES AS ESTABLISHED BY THE COMPANY AND THEN TO COORDINATE AND ALIGN WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR SHAREHOLDERS.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE WHAT OUR SERVICES WERE BEING PROVIDED.
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TO GUIDE THE DECISIONS THAT THE BOARD WOULD MAKE IN ENSURING THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE COMPANY'S OPERATIONS.SO FOR THE PLANNING, WHICH STARTED IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 AND EXPAND THROUGH OCTOBER OF 2020, WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL METHODOLOGY MILESTONES, AND THESE ARE OUTLINED HERE, BUT SOME OF THEM INCLUDED A SWAT WORKSHOP AND THEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE MEETING WITH OUR SHAREHOLDERS RECEIVING FEEDBACK AND ALIGNING THAT FEEDBACK WITH OUR OVERALL STRATEGIC INITIATIVE, THIS IN JULY OF 2020, WE MET WITH THE CITY OF LA HABRA MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH INCLUDED YOUR CITY MANAGER, JIM SADRO, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, ELIZA CALLIE, AND YOUR WATER AND SEWER MANAGER, BRIAN, OVER THE COURSE OF, IN JULY AND AUGUST OF 2020, WE ALSO MET WITH TWO OF THE OTHER SHAREHOLDERS, INCLUDING SUBURBAN WATER SYSTEMS AND THE CITY OF BRIA, THE OVERALL FEEDBACK AND THEMES FOR THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE SHAREHOLDERS INCLUDED ITEMS TO ADDRESS COST SYSTEM RELIABILITY, SUCCESSION PLANNING, REGIONAL LEADERSHIP, SHAREHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, SHAREHOLDER BENEFIT, AND PUBLIC PERCEPTION, TRUST AND MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY.
FROM THAT FEEDBACK, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS OF FOCUS FOR THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT HERE IN THE SUCCEEDING YEARS.
THOSE AREAS OF FOCUS INCLUDED THE FINANCIAL POSITION OF THE ORGANIZATION AND SUSTAINABILITY WATER SUPPLY WATER SYSTEM, AND OPERATIONS, SUCCESSION PLANNING, GOVERNANCE, OUTREACH, AND COMMUNICATIONS, AND REGIONAL LEADERSHIP AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS.
THAT WAS IN A NUTSHELL, THE OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN PRIOR TO MOVING ON TO THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE ADOPTED 20, 20 STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WE WILL PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHERE WE OUT, WHERE WE ARE OUT WITH OUR SUCCESSES AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'LL MAKE GOING ON.
SO ANOTHER INTERESTING TOPIC THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE WATER INDUSTRY IN RECENT YEARS IS THAT A PER AND POLY FLORAL SUBSTANCES OTHERWISE KNOWN AS P PHOS.
SO WHAT ARE THESE SUBSTANCES THEY'RE MANUFACTURED SUBSTANCES THAT ARE USED ON SEVERAL CONSUMER PRODUCTS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE NON-STICK COATINGS FOR FOOD PACKAGING AND COOKWARE, STAIN RESISTANT COATING ON FURNITURE AND CARPET AND FIREFIGHTING FOAMS. THESE ARE A SOURCE OF UNREGULATED CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED AND STUDIED BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD FOR REGULATION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO I PROVIDED SOME GENERAL GUIDELINES THAT WERE ISSUED BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN AUGUST OF 2019, CERTAIN COUNTRIES CONSTITUENTS IN THE P PHOS FAMILY WERE REDUCED IN THEIR OVERALL LEVELS WHERE THE COMPANY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REPORT ANY SUCH INSTANCES WHEN THESE, THESE CONTAMINANTS WOULD EXCEED EITHER THE 5.1 PARTS PER TRILLION, OR 6.5 PARTS PER TRILLION AT A SOURCE WATER.
WELL, THESE CONSTITUENTS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR BLENDING TREATMENTS, WHICH THE COMPANY CURRENTLY UTILIZES TO MEET THE OVERALL 40 PARTS PER TRILLION OF COMBINED.
WHAT'S KNOWN AS P PFOA AND P PHOS MATERIALS AND CONTAMINANTS IN THE WATER.
SO PPT IS PARTS PER TRILLION PARTS PER TRILLION, EQUIVALENT TO ONE GRAIN OF SAND IN AN OLYMPIC SIZED SWIMMING POOL.
AND ALL OF THE WATER THAT WAS PRODUCED AND DELIVERED TO THE CITY OF LA HABRA IN 2019, 2020 HAS MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THEM BECAUSE WE DID HAVE NON-DETECT IN OUR WATER SUPPLY THAT WAS DELIVERED NEXT SIDE.
SO FOR TESTING AND MONITORING, THE COMPANY COMPLETED ITS INITIAL SAMPLES IN MARCH OF 2020, WE DO HAVE ONE, WELL THAT DOES REQUIRE TREATMENT AND WE'RE CURRENTLY ADDRESSING THAT NEED.
AND THEN WE ARE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE MONITORING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND REPORT ANY ITEMS IN EXCESS OF THE NOTIFICATION AND OR RESPONSE LEVELS THAT WE JUST REVIEWED.
THE COMPANY'S RESPONSE IS WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING 3.2 MILLION IN AN ION EXCHANGE TREATMENT FACILITY.
WE'VE ALREADY SECURED THE EQUIPMENT WITH A CONTRACT WITH OUR VENDOR, FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE REGULATORS AT THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD TO ENSURE THAT OUR WATER SUPPLY PERMIT
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IS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THIS TREATMENT FACILITY FOR THE WATER THAT WE'LL BE DELIVERING UNDER THE TREATMENT TECHNOLOGY.SO, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, ALL WATER DELIVERED TO SHAREHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF LA BARBARA IN 2019 2020 WAS NON-DETECT FOR P PHOS AND REMAINS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEWLY ISSUED GUIDELINES BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD.
THIS IS WHAT THE TREATMENT FACILITY IS SLATED TO LOOK LIKE.
SO THE SOURCE WATER COMES FROM WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS WELL.
SO ANY WATER FROM THIS FACILITY WILL THEN ALSO BE BLENDED WITH THE OTHER WATER FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SOURCE WELLS THAT WE UTILIZE TO PROVIDE SUPPLY.
IT INCLUDES SIX MEDIA VESSELS WITH A 3000 GALLON PER MINUTE CAPACITY.
AND IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THIS FACILITY WILL BE OPERATIONAL SOMETIME IN THE FALL IN THE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.
SO FOR THE CITY OF LA HABRA IN 2019, 2020, YOUR WATER CONSUMPTION TOTALED 5831.04 ACRE FEET, WHICH IS BROKEN DOWN INTO THE COMMON STOCK ENTITLEMENT WATER PREFERRED STOCK, ENTITLEMENT WATER, AND EXCESS ENTITLEMENT WATER.
OVERALL, THE CITY WATER USAGE WAS DOWN 9.9% OR APPROXIMATELY 643 ACRE FEET WHEN COMPARED TO 2018, 2019 WATER CONSUMPTION.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF DELIVERY.
SO OVERALL FOR THE 5,831 ACRE FEET DELIVERED FROM CAL DOMESTIC, THE TOTAL DELIVERY COSTS CHARGED TO THE CITY OF LA HARBOR WAS JUST AN EXCESS OF 4.1 MILLION.
SO AN AVERAGE COST PER ACRE FOOT OF ABOUT $713.
IF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR WERE TO TAKE 100% OF THAT SUPPLY FROM THE MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT OF ORANGE COUNTY OR MODOK WHO IS A MWD WATER SUPPLIER, THE PROJECTED DELIVERY COSTS WOULD BE ALMOST 6.2 MILLION.
SO YOUR INVESTMENTS WITH CALIFORNIA DOMESTIC WATER COMPANY FOR 2019 2018 ARE APPROXIMATELY $350 PER ACRE FOOT, OR JUST OVER $2 MILLION FOR THE YEAR.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR THE YEAR.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.
DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.
I WONDER IF YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN HOW WE WERE DOWN SO MUCH IN OUR WATER CONSUMPTION, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON FOR THAT 10% DECLINE? SO, OR DO WE KNOW OFF HAND? I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CITY'S DEMANDS DECLINED DURING A PERIOD OF TIME IN 2019 2020 WATER SUPPLY AVAILABILITY WAS STILL THERE FROM THE COMPANY, BUT THERE'S LIMITS ON HOW MUCH THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE.
SO IF DEMANDS ARE DOWN THE TAKE ON THE, SYSTEM'S NOT GOING TO BE AS, AS HIGH, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS.
I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, REMINDED TO CONSERVE.
AND SO I THINK THE RESIDENTS HAD PROBABLY BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB OF CONSERVING AS WELL, WHICH HAS BROUGHT THAT DEMAND DOWN.
I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE, WHERE THE COMPANY PRODUCES ITS WATER FROM THE MAIN SAN GABRIEL BASIN.
THERE ARE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE GROUNDWATER AND ENSURING GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY.
AND SO THE PUSH HAS CONTINUED TO BE THAT OF CONSERVATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? WE HAD A MIRROR.
UH, JUST TO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
LINDA, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU WOUND UP WITH DON HANNAH, WHO WAS A CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD? HE WAS ELECTED BY THE GOOD MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AMMONIA WAS HERE THAT TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, NOW WE WILL PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE 49, FIVE 4.38.
SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED
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TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THIS MEETING.IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THIS COB, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THIS MEETING? MADAM MAYOR, UM, BRAN IS CHECKING WITH THE FOLKS IN THE ATRIUM AND THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST A SLIGHT LAG.
[ CONSENT CALENDAR: All matters on Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless a Councilmember, City staff member, or member of the audience requests separate action or removal of an item. Removed items will be considered following the Consent Calendar portion of this agenda. Public comment shall be limited to three (3) minutes per individual, with a total time limit of 30 minutes per item that has been removed for separate discussion, unless otherwise modified by the Mayor. Speaking time may not be granted and/or loaned to another individual for purposes of extending available speaking time, and comments must be kept brief, non-repetitive, and professional in nature.]
PROCEED TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.A MATTER THEN A CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THE LENS, A COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF MEMBER, OR A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL.
FOR TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM, THERE HAVE BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
AND COMMENTS MUST BE AGAIN, KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PREPARE PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE CONSENT CALENDAR APPEARS ON PAGES THREE THROUGH FOUR ON THE AUDIENCE AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH 10.
IS THERE ANY ITEMS THAT STAFF WOULD WISH REMOVED? NO MATTER MAYOR, THANK YOU.
ANY ITEMS THAT COUNCIL WOULD WISH REMOVED? NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT THE AUDIENCE WOULD WISH REMOVED? THEN I WILL CALL FOR ACTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM EIGHT, WHICH HAS BEEN REMOVED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM MAYOR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM AND THE BREAK.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND WITH THE, WOULD YOU PLEASE VOTE WITH THE COUNCIL PLEASE VOTE? OH, ONE SECOND HERE.
DID YOU VOTE MANY TIMES? OH, THERE WE GO.
[ CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION:]
THEN PROCEED TO THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED, WHICH IS ITEM EIGHT TO APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH A CONSULTING FIRM F M THREE, TO CONDUCT THE COMMUNITY SATISFACTION AND BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY.COULD WE, DO YOU WANT A REPORT? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
THE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
I MEAN, I, I SEE THAT THIS IS ABOUT $40,000 TO DO A POLL I'M I'VE DONE POLLING IN THE CITY OF LAHABRA, UH, AS A CITY, OUR SIZE, I DON'T THINK WOULD REQUIRE, UM, NORMALLY IN MY EXPERIENCE, A $40,000, UM, UH, LEVEL OF INVESTMENT TO DO A POLL.
SO I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT I, WHY IT WAS SO MUCH.
I WAS, I THINK YOU COULD DO A POLL FOR A FRACTION OF THAT COST 10 OR 15,000.
I WOULD THINK OF A VERY THOROUGH POLL.
SO MAYBE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCOPE IS BEING DONE HERE.
SO, UH, WE'VE UTILIZED FM THREE IN THE PAST, UH, ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO DO COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEYS.
UH, WE'VE DONE IT BACK IN 2008.
WE RECENTLY DID IT TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THEY CONDUCT, UH, RATHER THAN, UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT LAYERS OR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF POLLING THAT YOU CAN CONDUCT DEPENDING ON, ON HOW YOU WANT TO HAVE THE POLLING, UM, STRUCTURED.
WE ASK WHEN THEY DO POLLING FOR US, THAT WE DO SCIENTIFIC SCIENTIFICALLY VALID SURVEYS, UH, SO THAT THEY ENDED UP, I WANT TO SAY CONTACTING, HOW MANY DO WE PUT OUT? ROB, THERE'LL BE A TOTAL OF 500, 500 PEOPLE THAT WE CONTACT.
IT'S ABOUT PROBABLY A 15 TO 18 MINUTE LONG POLL.
UM, UH, WE DO SOME OF THOSE ONLINE.
WE DO SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE TELEPHONE CONTACT POLLS, AND THEY TRY TO GET A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLING OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE ASKING THEM, WE'RE EXPANDING THE POLLING TO ALSO INCLUDE AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.
WHEN WE DID OUR GOAL SETTING, UH, SPECIFICALLY QUESTIONS ABOUT BUDGET PRIORITIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT IS ISSUING OUT LARGE STIMULUS CHECKS TO, UH, CITIES.
UM, WE'RE SLATED TO GET A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE COMING MONTHS.
I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL WANTED US TO GET SOME FEEDBACK
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AS WELL ON WHERE THE BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR THAT WOULD BE.AND THEY'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THEIR POLL.
WE ALSO USE THEM BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF, UH, LONG-TERM QUESTIONS THAT THEY PULLED UP ON FOR OUR CITY IN THE PAST.
AND WE TRY TO USE THAT AS TREND ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES.
SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, THE WAY WE STRUCTURE THOSE POLLS.
UH, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD A HIGH DEGREE OF ACCURACY WITH THE POLL RESULTS.
WELL, WITH RESPECT JIM, I, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING HE SAID, WE WANT IT TO BE SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SAMPLE SIZE OF 500.
AND WE'RE APPROACHING THEM VARIOUS WAYS ONLINE OR ON THE PHONE OR WHATEVER, BUT I MEAN, AT $40,000 TO SAMPLE FIVE, 500 PEOPLE, IT DOES, UM, SEEM UNUSUALLY EXPENSIVE FOR, FOR A POLL OF THAT SIZE.
I, IN MY EXPERIENCE, I, IF YOU WOULD ASK ME, WHAT DOES IT COST TO PULL LAHABRA I WOULD'VE SAID AT MOST $20,000, BUT 40,000.
THAT'S WHY I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE COST.
I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
I JUST SEEMS PRETTY, PRETTY PRICEY THERE, UM, FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
BUT THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF ASKING.
I MEAN, IS THERE MORE OF A, OF A WRITE-UP IN THE SUMMARY AND THEIR FINDINGS THAT'S REALLY EXPANSIVE OR W WHAT IS, WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN DO A POLL OF THAT KIND FOR, UM, I DUNNO, I, I'M JUST NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S SO MUCH, THAT'S ALL WE HAD A MAYOR, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE BEING TREATED LIKE A SOLE SOURCE PROVIDER, I ASSUME BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST WORK AND THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IN A TIMELY WAY IN THEIR ACCURACY, BUT WAS THIS PRICE NEGOTIATED AT ALL? YES, IT WAS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT WHOLE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? I DON'T HAVE THEIR PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THEY OFFERED US MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE COULD HAVE DONE THE SURVEY, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG WE WANTED TO START, THEY HAVE 15 MINUTE, 20 MINUTE, 25 MINUTES, 400 RESPONDENTS, 500 RESPONDENTS, 600 RESPONDENTS, THE LONGER THEIR PREP, THE, UH, THE SURVEY, THE MORE RESPONDENTS YOU HAD NATURALLY, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT WAS.
I WANT TO SAY I TOPPED OUT AT THAT FOR THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE WAS SOMEONE IN MID FORTIES.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE.
IT WASN'T THE LEAST EXPENSIVE.
UH, IT WASN'T THE MOST EXPENSIVE.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.
ON THAT, A MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTING FIRM, FM THREE.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC.
SINCE THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO THE PUBLIC TO TESTIFY, AND PLEASE GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM.
THEN I WILL ASK FRAMEWORK, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTING FIRM, FM THREE, TO CONDUCT A COMMUNITY SATISFACTION AND BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY.
IS THERE A SECOND SECOND WITH THE COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE MOTION PASSED FIVE, ZERO.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE MAY REQUEST TO ADDRESS THE LA CITY.
IT WOULD BE PUBLIC HEARINGS FIRST.
I SKIPPED A PAGE AND BEFORE I EVEN PROCEED WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A CERTIFICATE IF THEY COULD PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
HI, I'M AN ACTIVE MOM COMMUNITY WELLNESS ADVOCATE, A MEMBER OF VAPE FREE LAHABRA COLLISION.
DESTINY IS A MEMBER OF LAHABRA TEENS.
VAPING COLLISION A PART OF REDUCING YOUTH ACCESS TO TOBACCO LAHABRA LABOR COMMUNITY ACTION PARTNERSHIP OF ORANGE COUNTY.
OUR MISSION IS TO PROMOTE A BACKUP PROBATION SENSATION, HOW AWARENESS ACT ACTIVITIES FOR A HEALTHIER TOBACCO AND VAPE FREE LAHABRA.
WE MEET ONCE A MONTH TO DISCUSS AND LEARN ABOUT TOBACCO VAPING TOPICS AND PLAN TO TELL MEETINGS AND
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DISCUSS THE IMPORTANCE OF BENEFITS OF REDUCING YOUTH ACCESS TO TOBACCO PRODUCTS.HUMBER HAVE A VAPE FREE LAHABRA REPRESENTS OVER 80 YOUTH AND ADULTS COLLISION MEMBERS.
WE WILL LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR AN OUTGOING DEDICATION AND SERVICE TOWARDS KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A CERTIFICATE FROM THE TOBACCO VAPE FREE ORANGE COUNTY COLLISION.
WE WITH LETTERS OF APPRECIATION FROM COMMUNITY ACTION, PARTNERSHIP OF ORANGE COUNTY AND RECOGNITION FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN HELPING REDUCE THE USE OF TOBACCO HENNIS EXPOSURE TO SECOND HAND SMOKE BY INDUCING AN ELECTRONIC DEVICES, FAM PRODUCTS AND SYNTHETIC SUBSTANCE IN CITY OF DEFINITION OF TOBACCO HAS SMOKING AS WELL AS PER PASSING THE SMOKE-FREE PARK ORDINANCE.
IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO JOIN OUR VAPE FREE LAHABRA COLLISION ON THE FACEBOOK AND WELCOME YOU TO ATTEND ANY OF OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS THAT TAKE PLACE ON THE SECOND FRIDAY OF EACH MONTH FROM TWO TO 3:00 PM.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING LAHABRA A HEALTHIER PLACE WITH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE CERTIFICATE AND RECOGNITION YOU.
[1. DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN APPEAL OF THE ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE ZONE VARIANCE 21-01 TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FROM 7,200 SQUARE FEET TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET, AND AN APPEAL OF THE ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY ZONE VARIANCE 20-01 TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM 25 FEET TO 6 FEET FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT 161 WEST HIDDEN LANE That the City Council: A. APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. ____ ENTITLED: A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIAL OF ZONE VARIANCE 20-01 TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM 25 FEET TO 6 FEET, FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT 161 WEST HIDDEN LANE; and, B. APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. ____ ENTITLED: A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF ZONE VARIANCE 21-01 TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FROM 7,200 SQUARE FEET TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AT 161 WEST HIDDEN LANE, AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS, AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. CEQA: This project was reviewed pursuant to the guidelines of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and determined to be Categorically Exempt pursuant to Section 15303, Class 3 (a) New Construction or Conversion of Small Structures of the California Environmental Quality Act Guidelines.]
PROCEED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR.
COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL NATURE.
ITEM ONE IS A DULY NOTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN APPEAL OF ACTIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE ZONE VARIANCE 21 DASH OH ONE, TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FROM 7,200 SQUARE FEET TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET, AND AN APPEAL OF ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY ZONE VARIANCE, 20 DASH OH ONE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM 25 FEET TO SIX FEET FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT ONE 61 WEST HIDDEN LANE.
IF WE COULD HAVE A STAFF REPORT THAT A MAYOR BEFORE WE HAVE A SEPHORA PART, IF I'M, IF I MIGHT, I'M GOING TO, UM, BE KEYS MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM, UH, DUE TO A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH MY EMPLOYER AND ASKED THE CLERK TO NOTE THAT I WILL BE LEAVING THE DICE.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW, MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ANDREW HALL DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF REPORT.
THIS EVENING WILL BE PRESENTED BY ASSOCIATE PLANNER.
DAVID LOPEZ ALSO HERE IN ATTENDANCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
OUR PLANNING MANAGER, ROY RAMS, LYNN, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, KEITH COLLINS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PLEASE PROCEED.
MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE ITEM FOR THIS EVENING IS AN APPEAL THAT'S BEEN FILED BY THE RESIDENTS OF HIDDEN LANE REGARDING ZONE VARIANCE 21 DASH ONE REGARDING THE LOT SIZE.
A SECOND APPEAL WAS ALSO FILED BY MR.
AND THIS IS REGARDING THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
THE PROJECT IN QUESTION IS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY HOME ON A SUBSTANDARD LOT, MEASURING 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GATED PRIVATE COMMUNITY.
IT'S A PRIVATE ROADWAY AND IT'S ACCESSED VIA NORTH YOU'LL GET STREET.
ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE AREA IS, ARE ONE, BE ONE FAMILY DWELLING, UM, SUBJECT LOT IT'S TRIANGULAR IN SHAPE.
IT IS THE ONLY PARCEL WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT REMAINS VACANT.
IT'S ALSO THE SMALLEST LAW OUT OF THE 13 LOTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT UPON REVIEW A TOD REPORT, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS THREE EASEMENTS LOCATED ALONG THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, AND TWO EASEMENTS LOCATED ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
AND THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE EXTENDS INTO THE MIDDLE OF HIDDEN LANE AS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE.
THESE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THE SUBJECT LOT MEASURES 43 FEET LONG ALONG THE WESTERN WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE.
AND THIS IS MEASURED FROM THE CENTER OF THE ROADWAY TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
IT ALSO MEASURES 33 FEET WIDE, AND THIS IS MEASURED FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE LOT.
AND THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE REAR.
THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE FRONTAGE.
THE TOTAL LOT FRONTAGE IS 109 FEET.
THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT, WHICH IS THE WIDEST PART OF THE LOT.
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THEN THIS IS LOOKING ALONG THE EASTERLY PROPERTY LINE.UM, THE DIMENSION MEASURES 69 FEET MEASURED FROM THE CENTER OF HIDDEN LANE TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY LINE OR 59 FEET WIDE MEASURED FROM THE NORTH EDGE OF THE ROADWAY TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT.
AND THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE, UH, THE WEST NEXT SLIDE.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES ZONE VARIANCE 21 DASH ZERO ONE.
AND THIS WAS FILED TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT AREA FROM 7,200 SQUARE FEET TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
SUBJECT LAW WAS CREATED IN 1955.
WHILE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY OF ORANGE, A HIDDEN LANE WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 1980, AT WHICH POINT THEY TRIGGERED COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S ZONING CODE WITHIN THE HARBORD MUNICIPAL CODE.
THERE ARE, OR THERE IS AN EXEMPTION RELATED TO THE LOT SIZE.
THIS IS FOUND IN SECTION 18 POINT 24.040 E.
AND IN SHORT, IF A PROPERTY WAS RECORDED PRIOR TO 1954, THE ZONING CODE WOULD ALLOW AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXEMPTION TO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE SUBJECT LOT WAS CREATED IN 1955 WHILE UNDER THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION.
AND IT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION.
UM, THE SUB-CENTER LOTTA AREA IS A PREEXISTING CONDITION.
IT CREATES AN EXEMPT IN EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT DOES NOT GENERALLY APPLY TO OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ADDITIONALLY, THE SUBJECT LOTS IRREGULAR SHAPE ITS CONFIGURATION AND LOCATION, AND NUMBER OF EASEMENTS ALSO POSE, UH, A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO IN VARIANCE 2101 WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY FOUR ONE VOTE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION AND APPROVES ZONE VARIANCE 21 DASH OH ONE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE PROPOSED HOME.
IT'S A TWO STORY, FOUR BEDROOMS WITH A, AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE WITH A TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF 2,555.
UM, WELL, TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT.
IT'S ACTUALLY AT 21 FEET TALL.
IT IS WHEN THE ACCEPTABLE LIMITS OF THE ZONING CODE, WHICH IMPOSES A TOTAL HEIGHT LIMIT OF 35 FEET.
AND THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDED ZONE VARIANCE.
20 DASHES ARE ONE TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM 25 FEET DOWN TO SIX FEET.
THE PROPOSED TWO STORY HOME WAS DESIGNED WITH A SIX FOOT REAR SETBACK, AND THAT'S MEASURED FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE TO THE ROOF EAVE.
AND IT ALSO HAS A SEVEN FOOT SIX FOOT DIMENSION MEASURED FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING STRUCTURE.
THE GRAPHIC SHOWS THREE DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS.
THE RED OUTLINE IS THE ACTUAL PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.
THE BLUE REPRESENTS THE SIX FOOT DIMENSION AS REQUESTED THE YELLOW OR GOLD SHOWS A 10 FOOT DIMENSION, WHICH STARTS ZONING CODE ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL ROOM ADDITIONS TO ENCROACH, UH, UP TO 10 FEET.
AND THEN THE GREEN SHOWS THE ACTUAL TWENTY-FIVE FOOT SETBACK REQUIRED BY THE ZONING CODE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND BELIEVE THAT OTHER DESIGN ALTERNATIVE IS, UH, OUR TENTATIVES MAY BE AVAILABLE.
A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE ZONE VARIANCE, 20 DASH OH ONE, BUT DID NOT PASS AND WAS DENIED BY A TWO, THREE VOTE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION AND DENIES ON VARIANCE 20 DESKS.
OH ONE, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY.
THEN I WILL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD ASK THOSE WHO SPEAK TO PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND NOT TO BE REDUNDANT IN THEIR TESTIMONY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO TESTIFY FIRST CONSULTANT.
MY NAME IS BLUSH MOMENI AND I'M AT THE APPLICANT FOR THAT PROJECT, UH, SMALL HOUSE, UH, RESIDENT.
UM, AND, UH, I HAVE, UH, UH, PURCHASED THE PROPERTY 18 YEARS AGO.
AND AT THAT TIME I, UH, UH, CONTACTED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I WAS, UH, GIVEN, UH, THE, UH, UH, RESPOND TO MY REQUEST TO BUILD A HOUSE.
AND I GOT A REPORT HERE THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, MR. MAYER, CONCERT MEMBERS.
AND, UH, I I'M INTENDING TO BUILD THIS HOUSE FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
UH, I AM LIVING, UH, I'M RENTING A PLACE IN LAGUNA WOODS, LEISURE WARD AREA, BUT MY WIFE, AFTER SO MANY YEARS, WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD NEED A SMALL BACKYARD
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AND I'M EIGHT YEARS OLD, RETIRED ARCHITECT.AND I DESIGNED THE HOUSE AND I TRIED TO, I SEE IN, UH, NEIGHBORS ATTORNEY LETTER THAT, UH, THE HE'S, HE SPEAKS TO MANY TIMES ABOUT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE, UH, UH, PROJECT.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I DID MY BEST TO MAKE THE CHARACTERISTICS VERY SIMILAR, VERY MATCHING AND GOING WITH THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE, EVEN THOUGH THAT MY OWN CASE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING MODERN AND, UH, VERY, UH, NEWLY DESIGNED, UH, AND, UM, REQUESTING, UM, UH, THE CONSULT TO APPROVE THEIR SETBACK, UH, REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY, UH, I HAVE SO MANY PICTURES ON EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO SHARE THAT, UH, THE SETBACKS THAT I WAS DENIED FOUR INSTEAD OF SIX FEET, I WAS TOLD THAT I NEED TO HAVE 25 FEET, WHICH PRACTICALLY MAKES THE PROJECT ON BUILDABLE AND IT WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE.
I HAVE ALSO, WE HAVE WRITTEN THE LETTERS TO THE OLDEST SURROUNDING THE TWO IMMEDIATE HOMES THAT THEY MAY BE, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT.
MY, UH, MY SETBACK TO THE FRONT TO THE NORTH WOULD BE TWO HOMES IN ALL INDUSTRY THAT THEY ARE IN, UH, I THINK LA COUNTY AREA.
AND THEY DID NOT, UH, UM, UH, MAKE ANY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THIS MAY BE HURTING THEM, OR THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, REDUCING THAT SETBACK TO SIX FEET BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY ABOVE MY PROPERTY.
AND THAT ADR IN THE BACK OF MY, IN THE NORTH OF MY HOUSE IS, WOULD NOT MATTER TO THEM AT ALL, IF IT FIVE FEET, 10 FEET, 20 FEET OR WHATEVER.
AND, UH, THE, THE, THE ISSUE IN FACT IS THAT THERE IS A HARDSHIP HERE.
MY PROPERTY IS, UH, IT'S A SEMI RECTANGULAR, BUT THE IS EXCEPTIONAL BECAUSE THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TIMES LARGER, BIGGER THAN THE DEPTHS OF THE PROPERTY.
SO MY BACKYARD IN REALITY, IN FACT ENDED UP TO BE MY SIDE YARD.
I MEAN, THE AREA THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE AS A BACKYARD, FORTUNATELY IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
SO BEING RECTANGULAR THAT'S WAY AND BEING THE LAWN FRONTAGE ON THE STREET, UH, WOULD HAVE CAUSED THIS, UH, HARDSHIP IN FACT, AND I'M THE QUESTION.
IF THE CONCERT MAY LOOK INTO THIS ISSUE, AND IF YOU MAY PLEASE FIND IT AS I HAVE FOUNDED, UH, SERIOUS HARDSHIP, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD PASS ON THE, MY MORE TECHNICAL AND TO MY EXPERTISE, MR.
AND I WILL, I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
ARE YOU ALSO SPEAKING OR ARE YOU THERE FOR QUINN? I AM PRESENTING THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MR.
DO YOU HAVE, UH, SOME LETTERS FROM THE FOLKS ON OLINDA? NO.
UH, BUT WE SENT EVERYONE LETTERS OVER HERE BY THE MIC, PLEASE.
THEY SENT EVERYONE LETTERS IN THE RADIUS THAT WE HAD TO, AND THEY DID NOT ACT, IT DID NOT SHOW UP.
THEY DID NOT, IT WAS NOT THEIR CONCERN.
AND IT CAN'T BE BECAUSE THEY DON'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THEM.
THEY CAN'T EVEN SEE THIS SETBACK.
THEY HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY BECAUSE THEIR HOUSE IS WAY BACK AND THEIR LAND IS THERE A LOT IS DEEP AND THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE END OF THEIR LOT AND LOOK DOWN THAT HILL.
AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST SLOPE THAT I HAVE THE PICTURES TO, UH, BRIEF YOU GENTLEMEN.
UM, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER TO THEM.
THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T RESPOND.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IF I HAVE TO PERSONALLY CONTACT THEM AND TALK TO THEM VERBALLY OR KNOCK THE DOOR AND FIND OUT IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT, UH, SINCE THEY DID NOT, UH, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE HERE.
ONE, ONE, UH, UM, NEIGHBOR ON ORLINDA, WHICH HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PROPERTY.
NO CONNECTION, NO, NOT THAT'S ALL, ANY RELATION FURTHER DOWN TO
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THE REST.HE HAS SIGNED SOMETHING ALONG WITH THE OTHER, UH, POSITION THAT, UH, HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH IT, BUT HE'S NOT, IT CAN'T BE HIS CONCERN BECAUSE HE IS VERY, UH, FAR FROM THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY.
BUT, UH, I, I, SIR, I DIDN'T KNOW.
THAT'S HOW I SHOULD CONTACT THEM IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T MIND.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY YES, I APPRECIATE IT.
UH, MY NAME IS MAX
I SPOKE ACTUALLY DURING THE ZOOM AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I GUESS SOME OF THE STAFF THERE WERE FAMILIAR.
I HEARD THE VERY BEGINNING OF MR. LOPEZ PRESENTATION ABOUT THE HARDSHIP.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CONCERNED CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T LIKE THE PROJECT, BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, THIS IS NOT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THIS IS NOT ANYTHING OF THE SORT THAT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE IT WITH A FULL DISCRETION.
THIS IS MORE OF A FACT FINDING MISSION.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS WHETHER THERE IS HARDSHIP IS NOT, THERE IS A HARDSHIP, THEN YOU MUST APPROVE IT.
IT IS NOT WHETHER THE NEIGHBORS, THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
THEY UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR ALMOST 56 YEARS, EVERYBODY GOT USED TO THE IDEA.
THEREFORE, THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING CHANGED.
THERE IS NO SUBSTANCE IN THE ARGUMENT FOR THE LEGAL PURPOSES.
WE JUST DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE OF THE RAD, THERE'LL BE A SWIMMING POOL.
WE'D RATHER BE A TURN-AROUND WE'D RATHER BE USED FOR A PARKING.
SO THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL BASIS FOR ACTUALLY DENYING US BECAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO PLEASE THEM.
SO FOR THE TECHNICAL PURPOSE OF IT, WHEN WE STATE THAT THERE IS FULL HARDSHIP EXIST UNDER THE FINDINGS OF LABRADOR, MUNICIPAL CODE AND STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE HARDSHIP IS BECAUSE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER AND AS WELL AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT ALL THE LOSS, THIS IS THE SMALLEST.
SOMEHOW THIS IS INTERPRETED OR MISINTERPRETED BY THE STAFF.
TO ME, IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED.
THIS WAS NOT THE INTENT OF ANYBODY AT THE OLD TIMES, THE LAND WAS VERY CHEAP, SO THEY DIVIDED IT ANY WAY.
LAND USE REGULATIONS WERE A LOT EASIER THAN THEY ARE TODAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT, THEY HAVE LOTS THAT ARE 17,000 SQUARE FOOT.
THE CODE REQUIRES 70 TO A HUNDRED.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG IT IS.
THE FACT THAT MR. MOMMY WANTS TO BUILD A TWO STORY HOUSE IS PERMITTED BY CODE.
SOMEHOW THE NEIGHBORS KEEP COMMENTING ABOUT THIS TWO STORY HOUSES OUT OF A SCALE.
THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BUILD A TWO STORY HOUSE.
IF THEY WANT SOME, OR THEY DON'T WANT MY CLIENT TO BUILD A HOUSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SIMPLY AN EXCUSE TO KEEP HIM OUT.
NOW, DOES THE HARDSHIP EXISTS OR NOT? THE HARDSHIP EXISTS BECAUSE THE LOT WAS CREATED PRIOR TO 1955, AS MR. LOPEZ STATED THAT GIVES HER THE GRANDFATHER, RIGHT? WHICH IS SOLIDIFIED BY THE APPROVAL, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF OUR VARIANTS.
NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
NOW YOU CAN HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
YOU CAN SAY THAT THE LOT IS TOO SMALL.
THEREFORE HE GETS A VARIANCE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT IN A MANNER THAT IT MEANS NOTHING IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO END UP.
SO WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE STAFF REPORT IS COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS.
THE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE 25%.
THAT PARAGRAPH HAS A SECOND PARTIAL TO IT.
IT SAYS 25 FEET OR 25% OF THE DEPTH OF THE LOT, THE DEPTH OF THE LIGHT BRINGS IT TO BE 17 FEET.
WHAT DO YOU REALLY NEED TO DO TO CODE IS 17 FEET, NOT 25 FEET, BUT SOMEHOW YOU WAS, YOU JUST PASS BY.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU GUYS TO HEAR THIS CORRECTLY, PLEASE CONTINUE JUST HEARING.
SO TO STOP, YOUR REPORT WOULD REACH CORRECTLY.
SO AT LEAST MAKE THE FINDING BASED ON THE 17 PICKUP.
SO THE PROPERTY IS IRREGULAR SHAPED BECAUSE IT'S IRREGULAR SHAPE.
YOUR CODE CLEARLY SAYS IF IT'S IRREGULAR SHAPE, IT IS IN A CONDITION THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ANYBODY ELSE.
SO IF HE WERE TO SAY, ARE YOUR LARGEST TOO SMALL, BUT BUDDY'S OKAY TO BUILD.
AS LONG AS YOU DON'T BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS MEANINGFUL, IT WOULD BE LIKE ALMOST NICELY SAYING, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE ANYTHING.
SO I AM ASKING YOU GUYS, PLEASE, TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT DENYING THE VARIANCE TO THE SETBACK OR DENYING IT ALTOGETHER.
MY JOB IS TO GET MONEY FROM THESE KIND OF MISTAKES.
I DO NOT WANT TO REHASH THE HISTORY, BUT THE CITY OF LAHABRA
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MAKES A LOT OF POLITICAL DECISION TO PLEASE 11 NEIGHBORS AND PUNISH 70,000 PEOPLE OF LA, A LOT HARDER TO PAY EXTRA PENALTIES AND DAMAGES THAT MY CLIENT IS GOING TO SUFFER.AND I TOTALLY APOLOGIZE, BUT I AM TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME THING THAT THE UPS TRUCK CANNOT TURN AROUND.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY CLIENT.
MY CLIENT OWNS A LOT THAT IS LEGALLY CREATED.
IT HAS A GRANDFATHER, RIGHT? THE CITY HAD ISSUED CERTIFICATES IN THE PAST BY YOUR SUBDIVISION DEPARTMENT, BUT WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF.
HE APPLIED FOR THE VARIANCE, THE VARIANCE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE IS HARDSHIP, NOT WHETHER THE NEIGHBORS LIKE IT IS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST.
WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY ON THIS DAY GONNA COME UP THERE AND BUY THE LOT AND DIVIDED AMONG THEMSELVES.
UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THE COUNCIL WOULD ADDRESS TO THIS GENTLEMEN? NONE THEN.
I WILL THEN PROCEED TO, UH, INVITE THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORTIVE, DECIDED TO PLEASE SPEAK, PROVIDE US THEIR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS.
THEN I WILL INVITE THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK, PRESENT US WITH THEIR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE GO UP TO THE, FOR THE EMPLOYEES, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT ONE 41 WEST HIDDEN LANE, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS LOT TO THE EAST.
UM, THE FIRST ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AND PRETTY MUCH, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE AN OUTLINE.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS WHO WILL, UH, ADD MORE DETAIL TO THIS THAN, THAN I AM.
UM, ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS, UM, ZONING VARIANCE, 2101 ASKS FOR A LOT SIZE REDUCTION FROM 7,200 SQUARE FEET TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
MR. MOMENI, UH, THIS LOT IS NOT 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
IT MEASURES AT 5,445 SQUARE FEET.
IT IS SMALLER THAN THE LOT SIZE REDUCTION HE IS ASKING FOR.
UH, HE IS ASKING FOR US IF, UH, IF YOU TAKE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7,200 SQUARE FEET, REDUCE IT TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S A 12%, APPROXIMATELY 12% REDUCTION IN LOT SIZE.
IF HE WOULD TO GET WHERE TO GET THE LOT SIZE REDUCTION TO THE SIZE OF THE LOT, HE ACTUALLY HAS 5,445 SQUARE FEET.
THAT WOULD BE A CLOSE TO A 24% LOT SIZE REDUCTION.
THE POINT IS THIS NUMBER IS DISPUTED THE 6,192 SQUARE FEET.
THERE HAS BEEN NO SURVEYING OF THIS LOT.
THERE ARE NO MARKERS ON THIS LOT WHERE SURVEYORS HAVE MARKED IT AND MEASURED IT OUT.
THERE ARE NO MARKS IN THE STREET.
I LIVED THERE, SEVERAL OF THE REMIND NEIGHBORS LIVE THERE.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN A SURVEYOR SURVEY THIS LOT EVER.
AND SO I FEEL IT IS WRONG TO GRANT A LOT SIZE REDUCTION TO 6,192 SQUARE FEET WHEN WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE LOT SIZE IS.
SO I'D ASK THAT WE NOT APPROVE THIS LOT SIZE REDUCTION.
THE SECOND ISSUE I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE NATURE OF THE HILLSIDE ABOVE THE LOT.
UH, THAT HILL HAS SLID IN THREE OCCASIONS SINCE I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE.
WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 58 YEARS SINCE 1963, THAT HILLSIDE IS, UM, SUBJECT TO LIQUEFACTION THAT WHOLE FORMATION ALONG THERE IS LIKE ANCIENT SEA FLOOR.
WHEN I WAS A KID, I USED TO FIND FOSSIL SHELLS IN THAT, UH, ALONG THAT BANK THERE, UM, THE KNEE, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THAT DIRT SOAKS UP A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER AND THEN IT SLIDES AND IT MOVES LIKE MUD.
AND MR. UH, I'M SORRY, LOOSER THAN MUD IT'S.
IT'S LIKE WATER, MR. UM, THE CEO WHO LIVES IMMEDIATELY ABOVE THAT, UH, ABOVE THE LOT, UH, CAN, CAN TELL YOU, HE'S
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HAD TO CLEAN UP THE SLIDE IN MY BACKYARD ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT, UH, SLIDE OR THE DAMAGE LEFT FROM THE LAST LANDSLIDE.
UH, DO WE HAVE THAT ON THE BIG SCREEN? SO THE EVIDENCE IS THERE OF THAT LAND SLIDING.
UM, MR. MOMENT WANTS TO REMOVE OLD GROWTH TREES AT THE BASE OF THAT HILL.
THAT FRANKLY ARE KEEPING THAT HILL IN PLACE CONTRIBUTE TO KEEPING THAT HILL IN PLACE THAT SPACE THERE BEING GROUND DIRT ABSORBS A LOT OF WATER FROM THAT HILL WHEN IT RAINS.
AND SO IF MR. ROMAN, HE BUILDS HIS HOUSE HERE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY HIS PLANS, HIS HARDSCAPE AND HIS HOUSE WILL COVER 80% OF HIS LOT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT LESS GROUND FOR THAT WATER TO BE SOAKED UP BY, AND IT'S GOING TO RUN OFF INTO THE NEIGHBORS' YARDS.
UM, ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS A SMALL ISSUE, BUT, UH, IT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME, MR.
NOW YOU SAY, WHAT KIND OF VIEW DO YOU HAVE? RIGHT.
I LIVE IN HIDDEN LANE, WHICH IS NOT UP ON A HILL.
WHAT THE VIEW I HAVE IS A VERY NICE VIEW TO THE WEST OF MIKE
IF MR MOMENI BUILDS THIS HOUSE, IT WILL OBLITERATE THAT VIEW.
UM, ALSO MY PROPERTY VALUE THIS HOUSE, HE, HE PROPOSES TO BUILD THIS HOUSE TO WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
IF THE CARVER YOU HAVE 25 SECONDS, ALRIGHT, WELL, FIVE FEET OF THE PROPERTY LINE DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON, UH, EASEMENT.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PLEASE ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE UPHOLD THE DENIAL FOR THE SETBACK AND TO PLEASE RECONSIDER THE VARIANCE 2101 ON THE REDUCTION OF LOT SIZE.
THIS HOUSE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT, IT, UH, IT DOES NOT FIT ON THAT LOT.
UH, PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR ESPINOSA.
I LIVE ON, UH, HIDDEN LANE, 1400 NORTH HIDDEN LANE.
I WANT TO START IT OFF BY SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, AND WE ARE REALLY, TRULY NOT A BUNCH OF NIMBYS.
UH, THIS IS JUST A PROJECT THAT REALLY DOESN'T FIT.
AND I THINK MOST OF YOU GUYS GOT BY OUR PR OUR STREET.
AND, UH, YOU CAN TELL BY THE AERIAL IMAGES THAT DAVID PUT UP EARLIER, D THIS IS A PRIVATE STREET THAT HAS ANYWHERE FROM 18,000 TO 25,000 SQUARE FOOT.
THEY'RE BIG LOTS, THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY RANCH HOMES.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, ARIEL, YOU CAN PICK UP DICK'S HOUSE SET IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS AND HIS WHOLE HOUSE COVERS THAT WHOLE LOT.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IT JUST DOESN'T FIT TO THE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.
UH, THE BIGGEST THING, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS EVEN IF THIS LOT, BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF IT WAS IN A NORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF 6,600 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS, IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, I HAD TO DO AN ADDITION ON NOT HAD TO, I DID AN ADDITION ON MY HOUSE.
UH, I ADDED, UH, A GAME ROOM AND A GARAGE AND DID SOME STUFF I GOT PUT THROUGH THE RINGER BY LA COUNTY FIRE.
AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I PULLED THIS FROM MY PLANS TODAY.
THIS WAS A SCHEMATIC THAT I HAD TO DO OF OUR STREET COMING IN FROM EUCLID, THE TURN AND THE RADIUS OFF OF EUCLID, UH, HOW WIDE THE STREET IS ALL THE WAY DOWN.
THE TURNS AT THE TWO, TWO DIFFERENT TURNS TO COME IN.
AND THEN I HAD TO PROVE TO LA COUNTY FIRE, HOW THE FIRE TRUCKS CAN TURN AROUND ON OUR STREET AND EXIT THE STREET, GOING BACK OUT.
THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS WITH AN AREA ON THIS LOT THAT HE'S ALREADY SAID, HE'S TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE TURNAROUND.
THIS TURNAROUND'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE FIFTIES.
ONE THING DICK DIDN'T MENTION WAS THIS TURNAROUND WAS REQUIRED BY LAW HOMBRE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT BACK IN THE DAY, SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR SCHOOL BUSES IN AND OUT OF THE STREET.
AND SO IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH, WE KEEP HEARING NOT MY PROBLEM, NOT MY PROBLEM, BUT THERE LITERALLY WILL BE NOWHERE FOR FIRE TRUCKS, TRASH TRUCKS, UPS, TRUCKS, TO TURN AROUND ON OUR STREET.
SO WE ORIGINALLY REALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS AN EASEMENT ON THIS.
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WE STARTED DIGGING.THERE'S NOT AN EASEMENT, BUT THERE IS PRESCRIPTIVE RIGHTS AND WE'VE GONE TO THE FIRE AND ALL THAT, ALL OF THEM.
AND NONE OF THEM REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED, BUT REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THIS GETS APPROVED.
AND NOW IT'S JUST KINDA LIKE, OH, IT'S HIDDEN LANES PROBLEM ON WHERE THESE BIG TRUCKS ARE GOING TO TURN AROUND IS REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
AND I HOPE IF IT DOES GET APPROVED AND HE HAS TO GO BACK TO LA COUNTY FIRE, HE NEEDS TO PROVE HOW THE FIRE TRUCKS AND TURNAROUND ON THE STREET, JUST LIKE I HAD TO, JUST FOR AN ADDITION AT THE FRONT OF THE STREET, NOT ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK.
SO IF I HAVE THIS, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT IT LATER, UH, SO I IMPLORE YOU GUYS TO, UH, UPHOLD THE DENIAL OF THE SETBACK AND REVERSE THE LOT SIZE DECISION, BECAUSE IT JUST REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR, UH, FOR WHAT HE'S ASKING.
UM, MR. FERNANDEZ, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND AND I'M SORRY, AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT YOU MENTIONED NIMBY EARLIER.
CAN YOU JUST FOR THE PURPOSES? YES.
A NIMBY IS NOT IN MY BACKYARD AND SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
NOW WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 200 OLD LINDA AVENUE.
UM, THIS PROJECT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT MY VIEW.
IT DOESN'T AFFECT MY WATER PRESSURE.
IT AFFECT THE FIRST RESPONDERS TURNING AROUND IN OUR STREET.
UM, I COULDN'T SEE THE TOP OF HIS HOUSE, EVEN IF HE BUILT A TWO STORY HOME THERE, BUT I KNOW THAT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD AFFECT FOR MYSELF AND EVERYBODY WITHIN 1.3 TO 1.5 MILE RADIUS IS WHEN THIS HOUSE HAS SOLD, EVER THE LOT SIZE OF THIS HOUSE RELATIVE TO THE OTHER HOMES IN THE AREA, THIS HOUSE WOULD SELL AT A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT.
AND WHEN YOUR REALTOR'S DETERMINING THE VALUE AT WHICH TO LIST YOUR HOME AND THE BANK IS DETERMINING THE VALUE TOO, TO PROVIDE THE LOAN FOR THE HOUSE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT COMPARABLES AND THEY WILL LOOK AT THE HOMES THAT HAVE SOLD WITHIN ONE YEAR WITHIN A 1.3 TO 1.5 MILE RADIUS, REGARDLESS OF CITY BOUNDARIES OR COUNTY BOUNDARIES.
JUST FOR THE RECORD WHEN LINDA ACTUALLY IS IN LAHABRA IN ORANGE COUNTY, UM, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
I WOULD NOT HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, IF NOT FOR A NOTICE THAT I GOT FROM THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE, BECAUSE APPARENTLY I WENT IN 300 FEET.
UH, THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, KEVIN JOE'S IN THE OTHER ROOM, THEN PHYLLIS WHO'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THEN ROSE.
THEN US, ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT, MOSTLY HAVING TO DO CONSIDER IT'S NOT BLOCKING THEIR VIEW EXCEPT FOR JOE, KEVIN AND PHYLLIS, UH, WHERE IT IS IT'S DIRECTLY IN PHYLLIS'S BACKYARD.
PHYLLIS IS THE HOME THAT RICHARD WAS TALKING ABOUT AS SOME OF THE SLIDE ISSUES.
UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M REPRESENTING NOT JUST THE MEMBERS OF OLINDA, UM, BUT I'M REPRESENTING THE OTHER RESIDENTS IN LAHABRA AND LAHABRA HEIGHTS IN THAT 1.3 TO 1.5 MILE RADIUS IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE TO SELL OUR HOUSE WITHIN A ONE-YEAR WINDOW OF THIS HOUSE, SELLING THAT WILL BE ONE OF THREE POTENTIAL COMPARABLES.
AND IT DOES HAVE A DIRECT INFLUENCE ON THE PRICE AT WHICH WE'RE GOING TO LIST AND EVENTUALLY SELL OUR HOMES.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, BUT, UH, I CAN, I CAN REINFORCE THE OPINION.
I FEEL LIKE I'M THE EMISSARY OF ALINTA HERE.
I CAN REINFORCE THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF OLINDA ARE NOT ON BOARD WITH THIS, AND WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE FROM, UH, MR. MONINI AT ALL.
THE ONLY CORRESPONDENCE WE RECEIVED WAS FROM THE CITY.
MY NAME'S MIKE
IT'S UH, GOING TO BE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, I'M HERE TODAY TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE TO VOTE.
THIS IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOT TO BE CONFUSED AND COMPARED TO A REMODEL, WHICH WOULD BE HELD TO A LESSER REQUIREMENT AS FAR AS SETBACKS AND STUFF.
UM, THE FIRE APPROVAL OF THIS PROPERTY ONLY SHOWS HYDRANT LOCATION, WATER FLOW, TEST, AND SPRINKLERS, WHERE WHAT IT DOES NOT SHOW IS INGRESS AND EGRESS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, NOT HAVING PROPER ACCESS IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE REST OF US.
UH, REST OF THE RESIDENTS OF HIDDEN LANE, THE CLAIMS OF GETTING FIRE APPROVAL, UH, ON THE PLOT.
YEAH, PLANTS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE WHEN THE FIRE INSPECTOR FOR THE HOMBRE, JONATHAN
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MCKINLEY CAME OUT TO THE LOT.HE HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE.
HE SAID THERE WAS A, THERE WOULD BE NO SIGN TO ALLOW THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, SORRY, HOLD ON ONE SEC.
HE SAID THERE WAS, UH, NO WAY HE WOULD SIGN OFF TO ALLOW THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WITHOUT PROPER INGRESS AND EGRESS.
THE ENTRANCE OF THE STREET TO THE LOT IS 950 FOOT WITH TWO 90 DEGREE TURNS A SLIGHT DECLINE OF ELEVATION.
AND, UH, IT VARIES FROM 17 FOOT WIDE TO 20 FOOT WIDE FIRE CODE STATES THAT THE ROAD TO THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE NO LONGER THAN 150 FOOT WITH NO LESS THAN 20 FOOT WIDE OF A STREET.
THE PROPERTY, UM, W OH, I'M SORRY.
IT SHOULD BE 20 FOOT WIDE WITH PROPERTY WITH NO TERMS IN ELEVATION CHANGE, UH, TO THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD'VE BROUGHT MY GLASSES.
I WAS KIND OF, BUT, UH, THIS PLAN DOES NOT ADDRESS SAFE DESIGN AND THEREFORE AGAINST THE CITY GENERAL PLAN POLICY FOR FIRE PROTECTION AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
JUAN VALLEJO, THE TRASH TRUCK ROUTE MANAGER SAID THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A STREET SERVICE WITHOUT A TURNAROUND IN PLACE.
THE BUILDER IS CLAIMING IT HARDSHIP.
THE HARDSHIP IS ON THE PEOPLE OF HIDDEN LANE, A PRIVATE STREET THAT WILL, THAT WILL LOSE ITS EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS BY ALLOWING THIS PROJECT TO CONTINUE HOW YOU CAN CLAIM A HARDSHIP WHEN ACCORDING TO THE DEED, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU GUYS WERE PRESENTED WITH A COPY OF A LEGAL DOCUMENT STATES, THE LAND WAS A GIFTED TO HIM WHEN HE RECEIVED IT.
HOW DO YOU RECEIVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FOR FREE AND ASK FOR A HARDSHIP? THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE HARD TO FARFETCH THERE.
SO THE PROPERTY HAS A HISTORY OF BEING SOLD, UH, AT ORANGE COUNTY TAX AUDIT, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY.
HE HAS A SISTER, UH, HISTORY TO BE SOLD AT ORANGE COUNTY TAX AUCTIONS, WHICH STAGE BUYERS BE AWARE THIS CLEARS CITY OF LAHABRA FROM ANY RESPONSIBILITY IN IMPROVING, APPROVING THE EXTREME VARIANCES THE BUILDER IS ASKING FOR.
WE HAVE ALL MADE BAD INVESTMENTS.
WHY SHOULD WE SUFFER FROM HIS RIGHT? AND THEN I ALSO BELIEVE MY WIFE SENT YOU GUYS, UH, SOME PICTURES OF OUR STREET FROM AERIAL VIEWS.
NOW YOU'VE GOT 125 FOOT ON THE ENTRANCE.
440 FOOT HERE IS 18 FOOT WIDE, NOT 2,375 FOOT TO THE PROPERTY.
ONCE HE CLOSES OFF HIS PROPERTY TO BUILD WHAT HE WANTS, UH, FIRETRUCKS OR ANYTHING HAS A 20 FOOT TO A 28 FOOT FROM AN ANGLE AND THE, ON THE CORNER RIGHT THERE.
AND IN ORDER TO TURN AROUND A TRUCK, UH, IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK ON, UH, ON YOUR CLOSEUP HERE, IT'S REALLY, SELF-EXPLANATORY WHEN THIS GUYS PULLS AS BIG AS THE PROPERTY KINDA, UH, PUTS IN PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I REALLY WISH YOU GUYS WOULD KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE MORE.
THERE'S A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION ON IT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN REALLY SAY FOR IT.
ARE THE, ARE THESE THE ONES YOUR WIFE PROVIDED, CORRECT? YES.
MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS RICHARD PRICE, 1235 NORTH HARBOR BOULEVARD, SUITE 200 FULLERTON, CALIFORNIA AT NINE TWO EIGHT THREE TWO.
UH, I AM THE ATTORNEY FOR, UH, DICK CARVER AND JENNIFER
UH, I KNOW THAT YOU, UM, RECEIVED A LETTER I WROTE, UH, TO THE MAYOR, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THINGS IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK ARE SIGNIFICANT IN YOUR DETERMINATION TONIGHT, THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED AT A TAX SALE.
UH, IT WAS PURCHASED FOR $3,000 AT THE TAX SALE.
UH, THERE WAS PURCHASED WITHOUT ANY WARRANTIES AS TO ZONING, UH, OR PLANNING COMPLIANCE WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED.
IT WAS CLEAR TO THE PURCHASER THAT THE PROPERTY IT'S LOT SIZE ITS TOPOGRAPHY
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DIDN'T MATCH WITH THE OTHER AREAS.UH, OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA, UH, THE ZONING, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED AS THE SAME ZONING THAT EXISTS TODAY, THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT EXIST TODAY.
SO ANYONE WHO HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY EITHER ORIGINALLY OR RECEIVED IT BY GIFT OR ANY DOWNSTREAM OWNER WOULD KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY THAT WAS IN CONFORMITY WITH NOT JUST THE ZONING CODE, BUT THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO THE IDEA THAT THE, AS THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ANALYSIS BEGINS AND ENDS WITH HARDSHIP WOULD HAVE YOU THROW OUT THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACK AND THE GENERAL PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR HARMONY, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT JUST IS NOT THE CASE.
EVERYONE ON WEST HIDDEN LANE WHO LIVES THERE COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING CODE, THEY ALL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
THEY ALL HAVE LOTS THAT AVERAGE ABOUT 18,000 FEET.
NOW THE APPLICANT DOESN'T BELIEVE HE HAS TO APPLY TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING CODE OR WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND HE DOES THE PROJECT CAN ONLY BE ACCOMPLISHED BY COMPLETELY IGNORING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
THE APPLICANT HIMSELF TONIGHT, UM, HAS STATED THAT THE MINIMUM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS IS 17 FEET.
THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING CODE AND THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ARE TO PROVIDE BUFFERS BETWEEN, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE ZONE.
SO BLITHELY AS THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION THAT THE SETBACK SHOULD, SHOULD BE AFFIRMED, AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND DRAW SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST ATTEMPTS TO COMPLY WITH THE SETBACK REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT, A SETBACK OF SIX FEET OR SEVEN FEET, SIX INCHES.
IF YOU MEASURE IT, MEASURE IT TO THE PROPERTY IS TANTAMOUNT TO COMPLETE IT, COMPLETELY IGNORING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
WE ASK THAT THE RULING OF THE PLANT COMMISSIONER ALIGN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LAW AT 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
ALSO BE RECONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S THE APPLICANT WHO BEARS THE BURDEN OF PROOF.
AND HE CANNOT PROVE THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE HE AND ANYONE ELSE BEFORE HIM ENTITLED WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN REQUIREMENTS.
AND HE CAN'T JUST SKIP OVER THOSE NOW AND SAY THAT HE'S GOT AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO DEVELOP AND THREATEN THE CITY WITH A LAWSUIT IN ORDER TO LEVERAGE HIS CASE, TO TRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT LEGALLY YOU CAN'T DO.
I'M THE VERY FIRST HOUSE ON THE STREET.
I'VE LIVED THERE 40 YEARS, PROBABLY PROBABLY THE THIRD LONGEST NOW OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET.
UM, ALL 12 HOUSES ON THIS STREET DO NOT WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE STREET, BUT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT DOESN'T FIT, IT MAKES NO ATTEMPT TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS.
UM, COMMON SENSE NEEDS TO PREVAIL HERE.
I MEAN, ALL YOU GOTTA DO A VISUAL.
MOST OF YOUR MEMBERS WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT IT.
A VISUAL OBSERVATION IS THAT THE LAW IS VERY SMALL AND ITS MAJOR PROBLEM IS IT'S A TRAPEZOID.
IT'S A LONGER THAN IT IS DEEP.
UH, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OR DEEPER THAN THEY ARE WIDE.
SO THAT MAKES THIS PROPERTY A REAL PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET SETBACK BACKWARD ON THE FRONT.
THE TURNAROUND IS OBVIOUS AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 50 SOME YEARS, 60 SOME YEARS.
AND IT'S THERE BECAUSE THE CITY GOVERNMENT REQUIRED US TO INSTALL THAT.
AND IT'S BUILT PER THE FIRE CODE OF THE FIFTIES.
WHAT STILL COMPLIES TO TODAY? HERE'S THE FIRE CODE.
IT'S CONSIDERED A HAMMERHEAD TURNAROUND FOR THE FIRE GUARDS SITTING HERE.
THEY ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS STUFF.
WE NEED TO GET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
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IN THERE BECAUSE ONE OF THE CITY'S MODELS IS, YOU KNOW, SAFE AND PROTECTED CITIZENS.IF WE CAN'T GET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THERE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROTECT US? HOW'S THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOING TO GET IN THERE AND PROTECT US IF WE HAVE A FIRE? NO.
UNDER THE, UH, THE, THE LOT SIZE, A QUICK POINT IS THE VERY DESERVED, SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A MINIMAL PERCENTAGE.
FUDGING OF GUIDELINES, NOT DRASTIC OVERLOOK OF GUIDELINES.
SO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL ON HIS DRAWING IS 6,100 AND SOME ODD SQUARE FEET.
THEN THERE'S A PROPOSAL HERE FROM THE CITY THAT SAYS IT'S MAGICALLY NOW 5,100 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPERTY TAX CODE SAYS IT'S 4,400 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS WHAT HE'S PAYING TAXES ON HER.
ACTUALLY, HE'S NOT PAYING HIS TAXES.
HE HASN'T PAID HIM SINCE 2017 AND THE GRANT DEED HERE, RIGHT? HERE'S THE GRANT DEED PUBLIC RECORD.
THIS LAND WAS GIVEN TO HIM AFTER SOMEONE BOUGHT IT FROM AUCTION FOR $3,000 BACK IN 86.
AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE LOT, YOU START SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD.
SO YOU GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SOME MEASUREMENTS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY ON, ON THE ONE AERIAL DRAWING, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE DIRT, NOT THE STREET, NOT THE TURNAROUND, JUST THE DIRT, IT MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S HALF OF THE STANDARD OF 7,200 SQUARE FEET.
HOW DID THAT GET PAST ANYBODY? I MEAN, THAT'S NOT AT A LITTLE BIT.
WHY ARE WE HERE? I MEAN, THIS NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOT TO THIS POINT.
THE HOUSE IS 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST HOUSE ON THE BLOCK WITH THE SMALLEST PROPERTY, BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
HOW COME HE HAS SUCH A BIG HOUSE ON SUCH A SMALL LOT? AND THE OTHER PROBLEM IS HIDDEN.
YOU CANNOT PARK ON THE STREET.
ALL THE CARS NEED TO BE PARKED ON YOUR PROPERTY.
THIS HOUSE HAS NO ACCOMMODATION TO HANDLE MORE THAN FOUR CARS.
IF THE GARAGE IS AVAILABLE AND THE DRY WAS AVAILABLE, WHERE'S HE GOING TO PUT ANY GUESTS? IF THERE'S MORE THAN FOUR CARS IN THE PRO, UH, THAT LIVE THERE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO CALL PARK? THEY CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET.
THEY CAMP PARK ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
AGAIN, LIKE THE ATTORNEY SAID, ALL THIS STUFF WAS DONE AT AUCTION.
THERE ARE NO, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S NO HARDSHIP HERE.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEED BUYER BEWARE.
THE BACKSPACE REDUCTION, 76% REDUCTION, THEY REQUEST IT.
HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT? YOUR TIME IS, UH, AROUND 10 SECONDS.
SO PLEASE DENY THE LOT SIZE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S WAY OUT OF PROPORTION.
AND PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE BACKSPACE BACKSPACE NEEDS TO GO.
THE REGULATIONS BUILD A HOUSE THAT WILL FIT THE LOT.
I'VE LIVED AT, UH, 300 OLD LINDA.
UM, I THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
I TRIED TO SPEAK ON THE ZOOM MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COULDN'T GET IN.
I DROPPED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, SEND AN EMAIL, AND I KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF THE OTHER EMAILS THAT, THAT, UH, WERE SENT OR READ AT THE TIME, BUT NOBODY READ OURS AT LEAST DURING THAT MEETING.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT NOBODY ON A LINDA SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LAHABRA BUILDING CODE IS IN PLACE TO PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY CONTINUITY IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE BUILDING CODE IS THE MINIMUM LEVEL REQUIREMENT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
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SO WHEN WE ASKED FOR A CONCESSION OR A VARIANCE, WE NEED TO KEEP A WATCH OR A MINDFUL EYE ON THE MINIMUM LEVEL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.IN 2019, I DID A MAJOR RENOVATION ON MY HOUSE AND, UM, A HOUSE WAS BUILT IN, IN, UH, 1959.
AND THE BUILDING CODE HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT FROM, FROM THEN WE ADDED ONTO THE BACK OF IT.
THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE BUILDING CODE WITH, UH, UH, GRADE ELEVATION FROM WEEP SCREED.
WE ASKED FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT, THAT, UH, UH, BATTA, UH, CODE REQUIREMENT.
WE WERE ASKING FOR, UH, A TWO INCH VARIANCE.
SO WE HAD TO, IN ORDER TO DO OUR PROJECT REMOVE 55 TO 60 CUBIC YARDS OF DIRT.
THAT'S 10 TO 12 DUMP TRUCKS OUT OF THERE, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE.
SO VARIANCE IS TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
I WOULD ASSUME I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE OWNER OF, OF, UH, THIS ONE 61 HIDDEN LANE IS ASKING FOR MULTIPLE VARIANCES ON, ON HIS BUILDING PROJECT.
THE REAR SET PACK OF THIS VARIANCE FROM FY 25 TO SIX FEET IS EXTREME.
IT'S OVER 75% OF A CONCESSION KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS SET PACK IS THE ONLY BUFFER TO THE STEEP UP HILL GRADE BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
25 FEET SEEMS REASONABLE OR ALMOST EVEN SMALL SIX FEET ISN'T EVEN SAFE.
THE FRONT SETBACK PER THE HARBOR BUILDING CODE IS 15 FOOT MINUTES.
HE ON THE DRAWINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IT'S, HE'S GOT 10 ON THERE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S A 50% CONCESSION JUST IN FRONT AND REAR SETBACK ON THIS PROPERTY.
ANOTHER CONCESSION OF 50, 50%.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS 25 TO 35 FEET OFF THE STREET.
THIS WOULD BE 10 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE STREET.
IT DOESN'T OFFER ENOUGH PARKING.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AND KNOW WHAT A PARKING PROBLEM LOOKS LIKE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE UP A WALNUT.
YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT NOT ENOUGH PARKING LOOKS LIKE.
UM, OH, BUT THERE, BUT THERE IS MORE, THE LOT SIZE AS DRAWN ON THAT SHOWS LIKE 6,100, ALMOST 6,200 SQUARE FOOT.
I'M DOING THIS FROM MEMORY, BUT THAT IS 1100 SQUARE FEET OF STREET.
THIS IS THE STREET THAT PEOPLE ARE DRIVING ON.
SO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY SIZE, I'VE BEEN HEARING ALL KINDS OF STUFF THROWN OUT, BUT I, I LAID IT OUT WITH THE, UM, WITH OUR DRAFTING PROGRAM TODAY IT'S 5,092 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW WHAT, HE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
THE, THE, THE MINIMUM IS 7,200 SQUARE FEET, SQUARE FEET WHERE WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT MR. DAVIS, YOU HAVE 17 SECONDS.
SO, UM, SO THE HOUSE DOESN'T FIT THE LOT AND IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
MY QUESTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF LA BARBARA IS WHY, WHY ARE YOU SO WILLING TO CONCEDE THIS MUCH FOR THIS PROJECT WHEN YOU WOULDN'T GIVE ME TWO INCHES? THANK YOU.
HELLO, JENNIFER, PORESKA 1330 NORTH HIDDEN LANE.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO COUNSEL WHY I FEEL THAT THE VARIANCE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN MET FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND THEREFORE, NEITHER REQUEST A VARIANCE SHOULD BE APPROVED REQUIREMENT D OF THE VARIANCE APPLICATION STATES, THAT'S A GRANTING OF SUCH VARIANCE WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL PLAN.
IT WAS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE PROJECT MEETS THE POLICY OF H 2.1 MAINTAIN RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT THIS PROJECT MAKES ANY OF THOSE GUIDELINES.
THE FIRST GOAL IS FOSTERING IMPROVEMENTS OF HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW APPROVING VARIANCES THAT ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION
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OF A HOME SQUEEZED ONTO A SUBSTANDARD LOT WITH LITTLE PARKING, NO ROOM FOR MATURE TREES, EXPANSIVE GREENERY OR ACCESS TURNAROUNDS IMPROVES OUR HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOOD.IN AGE 2.12, THE GENERAL PLAN STATES THAT IT WILL ENCOURAGE HOUSING PROVIDERS TO USE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS AND ADD TO THE SAFETY, HEALTH, AND SECURITY OF RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENTS.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW APPROVING VARIANCES THAT WOULD REMOVE AND NOT REPLACE THE ESTABLISHED FIRE DEPARTMENT, ACCESS TURNAROUND, TRASH TRUCK, ACCESS, TURNAROUND, UTILITY ACCESS, TURNAROUND, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ACCESS TURNAROUND RESIDENT, AND GUEST ACCESS TURNAROUND ADDS TO OUR SAFETY, HEALTH AND SECURITY.
ALSO L U 7.1 NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION STATES THAT THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN THE USES DENSITIES CHARACTER AMENITIES AND QUALITY OF LAHABRA IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORHOODS RECOGNIZING THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY'S IDENTITY, ECONOMIC VALUE AND RESIDENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE.
HOW DOES ALLOWING A VARIANCE THAT LOWERS MY HOME VALUE ALLOWS A HOME SCALE AND STYLE ON A LOT SIZE THAT GOES AGAINST THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REMOVES MY ABILITY TO GET ACCESS TO BASIC CITY SERVICES THAT MY TAX DOLLARS FUND MAINTAIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE GENERAL PLAN ALSO SAYS THAT IT WILL COMPLETE ITS GOALS THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION OF MAINTENANCE, REHABILITATION, AND REPLACEMENT ACTIONS.
THIS NEW TWO STORY HOME DOES NOT FALL UNDER ANY OF THOSE DESCRIPTIONS, REMOVING AND NOT REQUIRING REPLACEMENT OF A FIRE CODE REQUIRED.
ESTABLISHED TURNAROUND IS THE OPPOSITE GOAL OF MAINTENANCE, REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT.
ANOTHER NOTE FROM THE GENERAL PLAN STATES THAT OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS AND AS GROWTH OCCURS, THEY WILL BE PRESERVED AND NEW GROWTH TARGETED TO OTHER UNDER UTILIZED PROPERTIES.
AS GROWTH OCCURS, THEY WILL BE PRESERVED.
SO AS MUCH AS I AGREE THAT AVAILABLE HOUSING IS A WONDERFUL GOAL FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA.
THE CITY HAS ALSO PROMISED ITS RESIDENTS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE PRESERVED WHEN YOU HAVE 100% OF NEIGHBORS ON HIDDEN LANE, REPEATEDLY GIVING LEGITIMATE REASONS THAT APPROVING THESE VARIANCES IS INJURIOUS TO NEIGHBORS.
I WOULD NOT CALL THAT PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOODS OR TREATING THEM AS IMPORTANT ASSETS.
I IMPLORE YOU TO SUPPORT THE VOTING RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA USING THE GUIDELINES OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS AND NOT OVERLOOK SUCH ROLES BECAUSE OF A CRITICAL INVESTOR WHO WILL NEVER LIVE IN THE UNSAFE AND DAMAGING MESS THAT WOULD RESULT FROM APPROVAL OF THESE VARIANCES.
PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE EITHER VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE GOOD OF PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR SAFETY AND OUR CONFIDENCE IN OUR LEADERS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? MY NAME IS FAYE AKERSON.
I LIVE AT ONE 24 WEST HIDDEN LANE.
THE CITY HAS CAUSED THE 12 HOMEOWNERS ON HIDDEN LANE.
A HUGE PROBLEM BY APPROVING A HOUSE TO BE BUILT WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE SHARED COST AND REPAIRS OF THE LANE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE WEEDED TRIMMED TREES AND EDGE THE LOT FOR ALMOST ALL THE YEARS, THE PROPERTY BECAME A LOT.
WE HAVE PAID TO PUT THE CEMENT ON THE TURNAROUND.
WE PAID FOR THE BERM ALONG THE FRONT ALL THE YEARS OF SLURRING AND REPAIRS OF THE ROAD.
THE COST WAS NEVER SHARED BY THE OWNERS OF THE LOT THROUGH THE YEARS, THE DIFFERENT OWNERS OF THE LOT OR NEVER APPROVED TO BUILD ON THE LOT.
WHY ARE YOU APPROVING IT NOW BY REMOVING OUR TURNAROUND? THERE WILL BE CARS AND TRUCKS USING HOMEOWNERS' DRIVEWAYS OR WORSE YET HAVING TO BACK A DISTANCE DOWN THE LANE AT THE CORNER THAT WOULD BE USED.
THE CORNER IS UPHILL AND HARD TO SEE CARS BACKING OUT OF THE SMALL ROAD.
SO WE WILL HAVE VEHICLES BACKING INTO EACH OTHER.
OUR MAILBOXES ARE LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF THE LANE.
WE ALL WALK OR DRIVE TO GET OUR MAIL.
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OF THE YEAR IN THE DARK.WE HAVE 10 CHILDREN AND ELDERLY AND HARD OF HEARING PERSONS AND DAILY WALKERS, ALL USING THE LANE WITH NO SIDEWALKS WITH THE TRASH TRUCKS AND THE UPS TRUCKS, POOL, CLEANERS, GARDENERS, AND VISITORS ALL BACKING DOWN THIS ROAD.
THIS WOULD BE A HAZARD TO EVERYONE.
THE TRASH TRUCK DRIVER WAS TOLD NOT TO USE THE TURNAROUND IN DOING SO.
HE BROKE A TREE BRANCH AT THE CORNER.
THIS WOULD BE A DAILY PROBLEM WITH VEHICLES RUNNING OVER DONNA'S BERM OR DRIVING OVER PLANTS AND BUSHES AND PEOPLE WITH THE SIX FOOT VARIANCE.
IT WOULD PUT THE TWO STORY HOUSE, VERY CLOSE TO THE POWER LINES.
TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE.
PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS SIX FOOT VARIANCE.
AND PLEASE DO ALLOW THIS TWO STORY HOUSE TO BE BUILT.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA ANN CARVER AND I LIVE AT ONE 41 RUST HIDDEN LAKE THE LOT ADJACENT TO THE LOT IN QUESTION TONIGHT, I'M MOVED TO HIDDEN LANE ON OCTOBER 3RD, 1963.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THIS SMALL PIECE OF LAND WAS, UH, THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO BUILD A COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOL.
WHEN WE, UH, APPROACHED THE, UH, CAME DOWN TO THE CITY TO GET PERMITS, WE WERE REFUSED BECAUSE THE LOT WAS TOO SMALL.
SO, UH, WE, UH, WHAT WENT ALONG WITH THIS TILL 1971 AND DECIDED IT WAS JUST, UH, NOT POSSIBLE.
SO THAT'S THE HIDDEN LANE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AT THAT TIME STOPPED PAYING THE TAXES ON IT.
THAT'S HOW IT WENT TO THE SO, UH, AND THE TURNAROUND WAS BUILT IN TWO HIDDEN LANE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, BOTH THE ORANGE COUNTY AND, UM, LAHABRA SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUIRED THE TURNAROUND FOR FIRE AND SCHOOL SCHOOL BUS US.
IF, UH, ALSO REQUESTED IT BE PAVED, ALLOWING THIS HOUSE TO BE BUILT WOULD RUIN MY QUALITY OF LIFE ON HIS LANE.
IT WOULD CAUSE A LOSS TO ALL MY PRIVACY.
IT WOULD VERY MUCH DECREASE THE VALUE OF MY PRIVACY OF MY PROPERTY.
PLEASE UPHOLD THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT AND PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THE A LOT SIZE REDUCTION.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.
COUNCIL MEMBER GOMATH HAS A QUESTION.
SO, SO YOU SAID, UH, YOU HAD WANTED TO BUILD A COMMUNITY POOL OUT THERE AT ONE TIME.
WAS THIS OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION OR WAS IT UNDER, WHO WAS THE OWNERSHIP? UH, BACK THEN WHEN YOU WANTED TO BUILD A COMMUNITY POOL? THERE WAS, UH, IT WAS JUST, UH, IT WAS JUST A LAND WE IN WITH THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, PAID TAXES ON IT.
UH, THE LA THE PIECE OF LAND WAS LEFT OVER WHEN THE 12 LOTS OF HIDDEN LANE WERE SUBDIVIDED.
UH, IT, IT WAS COMMUNITY PROPERTY.
WE ALL PAID THE TAX, THE PROPERTY TAXES ON IT WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BUILD A COMMUNITY POOL THERE WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO.
SO WE NEVER DID WAS PAYING THE TAXES.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GUYS DECIDED TO DEFAULT WHEN NOTHING CAN BE DONE WITH IT.
WE WERE ALWAYS, WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
SO WE LET IT GO BACK TO THE COUNTY.
WHAT UNDERSTANDING AT THAT TIME THAT THIS WAS AN UNBUILDABLE LOT.
HAD WE KNOWN THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BUILDABLE LOT? WE WOULD NEVER HAVE LET IT GO, OBVIOUSLY.
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IF I COULD, UH, COULD YOU TELL ME THE YEAR THAT YOU APPROACHED THE CITY TO BUILD THE POOL? I CAN'T TELL THEM THE EXACT YEAR.IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE AREA OF THE LATE FIFTIES.
AT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY.
IT WAS, IT WAS L UH, ORANGE COUNTY, UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
UM, SO THE COUNTY SAID THAT THE POOL, THE LAND WASN'T BIG ENOUGH FOR THE POOL.
WELL, THE CITY OF LA HAS EVOLVED IN SOME WAY.
NOW I WAS 10 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME.
SO I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT, UH, UM, WELL, THE, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE LAHABRA CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUIRED THAT TURNAROUND FOR THE SCHOOL BUS.
WE ALL WENT TO EL SORITO ON THAT BIG YELLOW SCHOOL BUS, AND THEY REQUIRED US TO HAVE THAT TURNAROUND.
SO IT'S BEEN THERE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
YEAH, IT WAS WHEN IT WAS GUILT.
WE WILL NOW GIVE THE APPLICANT A OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL AND SHOULD THEY WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I'M GLAD THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO WROTE A VERY, UH, BEAUTIFUL RESPONSE TO MR. PRICE'S, UH, ALLEGED ATTACK ON THE GENERAL PLAN COMPLIANCE AND WHATEVER, ACTUALLY SITTING HERE, UH, WHAT YOU JUST HEARD WAS A BUNCH OF US SPECULATIONS.
WHAT YOU JUST HEARD IS EVERYBODY WANT THIS PLACE TO BE FOR THEIR BENEFIT, NOT FOR THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT BENEFIT.
THE WHOLE ENTIRE IDEA OF HARDSHIP IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOT IT AS A GIFT, OR IT WAS A TAX SALE.
IS THAT THE LOT, REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT, WHAT'S CREATED THE TIME THAT IS A STANDARDS DID NOT APPLY TO IT.
SO WHEN THE CITY OF LA HABRA CHOSE WHOLESALE TO BRING THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY INTO HIS EXISTENCE VIA INCORPORATION ACCEPTED IT AS LOT, IT WAS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED.
IF IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED, ANYBODY KNOWS IT WOULD BE A DUDE'S RESTRICTION SAYING NOT TO BE BUILT.
IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY DEDICATED.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT TO SPLIT IT IN HALF.
AND I DID SOME RESEARCH REGARDING WHY THE SWIMMING POOL WAS NOT BUILT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD A SWIMMING POOL AND A LOT, THE SWIMMING POOL GO TO THE BACKYARD OF THE HOUSE AS IT DOES NOT GO, UH, I MEAN JUST A SWIMMING POOL BY ITSELF.
SO NOBODY WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL.
AT THAT TIME, THEY JUST WENT IN THERE AND THEY REALIZED IS NOT WORTH TO THEIR EFFORT IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD IT.
THE STAFF DID AN EXCELLENT REPORT REPORTING A TO Z.
THESE LOTS ARE FROM 20,000, THE BIGGEST LIE, OR, OR PERHAPS I SHOULDN'T SAY LIE, MISCONCEPTION OF UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT SOPHISTICATED IN THE FIELD.
THEY'RE JUST COMPLAINING EVERY LOT, INCLUDING THE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT IS MEASURED FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE STREET IS NOT LIKE THERE ARE LOTS FROM AT THE EDGE.
OURS IS FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL.
OUR LOT LEGALLY IS 6,000, ALMOST 6,200 SQUARE FOOT IS LESS THAN 7,200 SQUARE FOOT.
THE CITY CHOSE TO ADOPT IT INTO THE CITY AND CREATED A LOT SO THAT WHEN THE SITUATION EXISTS, THIS VERY IN PROCEDURE IS WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY FOLLOWED.
THE STAFF REPORT SAID IT, THE HARDSHIP IS NOT THAT WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE HARDSHIP IS, IS THE LODGE HAS ALREADY CREATED.
IF WE WERE HERE ASKING YOU TO ALLOW US TO SUBDIVIDE A LOT INTO THE SIDE, YOU HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SAY NO, BUT THIS IS EXISTING.
SO THAT LEGAL BURDEN IS ON THE CITY TO SAY, WHY IT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED.
WE BELIEVE, OR HARDSHIP EXISTS.
I'M HERE REPEATING THE STORY TO BUILD AN ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD.
I'M SURE THAT AT LEAST MR. JONES KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO THE VERY BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE HAVE A HARDSHIP BECAUSE THE LAW EXISTS.
NOW, IF YOU LIKE TO DEBATE WHETHER THE SETBACK SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT APPLY, JUST PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION OFF TO THINKING THAT THIS LOT, IF IT WAS TURNED AROUND THE OTHER WAY, IT COULD MEET THE 25 OR 25% LOT.
IN FACT REQUIREMENT, THESE LOTS ARE BIG.
THEY DID NOT CREATE THESE LAWS.
THIS VICE WERE BUILT BY A DEVELOPER AND THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT INTO IT AS IT WAS THAT IT WAS, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY STANDARD.
THEY LIKE TO CREATE ONE RIGHT NOW JUST TO IMPRESS YOU.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO COMMUNITY STANDARD.
THERE IS NO PROHIBITION AGAINST STORY.
IF THERE IS A LIQUID AFFECTION ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE IS THAT PROPERTY IS PROBLEM.
YOU CANNOT SOLVE ALL THE ISSUES OF THIS COMMUNITY AT THE EXPENSE OF MR. MOONEY'S LOT.
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INTO THE PROPERTY FOR THE CONVENIENCE IS NOT A REASON THAT THEY SHOULD BE REWARDED FOR THAT.IF MR MAMANEE BUILDS A WALL IN FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY TOMORROW, HOW WOULD THEY DEAL WITH IT? THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE ASSOCIATION DOES NOT WANT ANOTHER PERSON COMING HERE.
AND YOU ARE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY ALL ULTIMATELY IS ON YOUR SHOULDER, NOT TO PERMIT ALL BUNCH OF COMPLAINTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE, I AGREE IT DOES EXIST, BUT IT SHOULD NOT INFRINGE ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
IF THE CITY CAN BUY IT AT THE RIGHT PRICE AND ACTUALLY GIFTED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT WOULD BE YOUR BUSINESS.
BUT WE ARE HERE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO BUILD A HOME FOR A SENIOR CITIZEN.
IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION, DID YOU HAVE THE LOT SURVEYED A SURVEY OF THE LOT WOULD BE ULTIMATE WHEN WE DO THE GRADING PERMIT OR WHATEVER IT IS, ESTABLISH PUBLIC RECORD SHOWS HOW BIG THE PROPERTY IS D ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU DO A SUBDIVISION MAP ACT, THE ORIGINAL ENGINEER DIVIDES, EVERYTHING CREATES THE CORNER, LOTS AND ANGLES, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE ISSUES AT THAT POINT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU RELY ON LATER ON.
IF THERE IS A D YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THERE IS A DEBATE, WHETHER IT'S TWO FEET OVER HERE, TWO FEET OVER THERE TO RESOLVE THE OVERLAP, YOU WILL HIRE A SURVEYOR IN ORDER TO DO THE SERVING OF THE PROPERTY AT THIS MOMENT IS NOT NECESSARY.
WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR ENTITLEMENT.
WE ARE HERE TO GET THE RIGHT TO BUILD IT LATER.
THOSE ARE PART OF THE STAFF THAT STAFF REPORT SAYS YOU ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW DISCO, DISCO, DISCO, DISCO, DISCO.
THOSE IT'S GOING TO COME AFTER AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
YEAH, THE ANSWER IS NO, THERE WAS NO NEED FOR IT, MR.
THANK YOU, MRS. MAYOR, UH, UH, MR. PAUL SCOTT MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION.
A LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION WAS, UH, UH, UH, SPOKEN BY YOU, THE OPPOSITION AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND OWNERS OF HIDDEN LANE.
UM, AS WELL AS THEIR ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A POOL, TURN AROUND THE FIRE TRUCK, UH, UH, UH, UH, TRASH TRUCK OR UPS TRUCK AND ALL THAT I CAN, ANYTIME.
THERE'S SO ALL OF A SUDDEN I BECAME SO IMPORTANT.
I CAN BE THE GATE JET LOCK-IN AND DO NOT, WOULD NOT LET HIM YEAH.
LOOK AT THIS LOT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A POOL.
IT WAS, UH, THERE WAS NO ASSOCIATION, NOBODY OWNED IT.
I DID NOT BUY IT FROM TAX SALE.
I BOUGHT IT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND AGAIN, AS MR MRD SAID, UH, DOESN'T MATTER HOW I GOT THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS LAW.
NOW IT'S, UH, UH, LAND THAT IS, UH, HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD A HOUSE IN IT, MR. AT UW IT, THE PACKAGE THAT I, UH, DELIVERED TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, YOU SEE THAT MR.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE SETBACK? IS THERE ANY REASON FOR THE NATURE OF HAVING THE SETBACK IS THERE FOR CONVENIENCE? IS THERE FOR THE LOOK, IS THERE FOR SAFETY, WHATEVER IT IS, HE CAN BELT ZERO WITH ZERO SETBACK AND I'M IN SOMEWHERE THAT NOBODY CAN EVEN TOUCH AND SEE AND EXAMINE AND NOTICE THIS SET BACK.
AND IT'S, UH, DOING IT A SIXTH STREET BECAUSE OF THE HARDSHIP, BECAUSE OF THE LOT SHAPE.
I SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT VARIANCE THAT IS NOT FAIR AND FIRE.
I HAVE BEEN, I HAVEN'T SPENT FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS WITH THE LA FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH MR. JOSE GONZALEZ IN ORDER TO GO TO THROUGH EVERY DETAIL OF PROTECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PREVENTION OF THE FIRE AND HOW TO TREAT THE FIRE AND ALL THAT.
HE DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR TURNAROUNDS.
I I'M NOT, I DON'T OWN A PROPERTY TO BE GIFTED TO THE ASSOCIATE, TO THE HOMEOWNERS TO BE TURNED AROUND.
IF THERE WAS A TURNAROUND NEEDED,
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EVEN THE LFI DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE INDICATED WITHOUT B-ROLL THAT THIS NEEDS THE TURNAROUND BEFORE THEIR FINAL APPROVAL THERE THAT THEY GAVE TO ME TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO.ANY OTHER MATTERS LIKE SETBACKS, YOU
THEY HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY THE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE DONE THE REPORT.
THE DA, THE SETBACK THAT I CAN HAVE ACCORDING TO THE, TO THEIR ORDERS IS THAT IS 13 FEET BECAUSE THE SETBACK ON THE, UH, FOR THE BACKYARD WOULD HAVE TO BE 25 FEET OR 25% OF THE DEPTH OF THE LODGE, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
AND, UH, FOR MY SITUATION, BECAUSE OF
EXACTLY THE SAME 13 FEET THAT I HAVE PROVIDED IN THE FRONT SEAT BACK.
AND, UH, UH, MR. LOPEZ, UH, CAN CONFIRM ALL THESE, UH, BATTERS.
I, MY LOT IS 6,192 SQUARE FEET, ACCORDING TO THE TITLE POLICY, ACCORDING TO THE PLOT MAP.
AND I DON'T HAVE TO MEASURE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TITLE COMPANY AND THE, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS ARE CORRECT.
I WOULD DO IT WHEN THE, UH, I NEED TO STOP THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND, UH, UH, THAT'S ALL, I, UH, I DON'T THINK MY HOUSE WOULD, UH, THE, UH, HURTED VALUE, THE HERITAGE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, I THINK IT WILL ENHANCE IT.
I DO A GREAT JOB AND I DO A WONDERFUL HOME.
AND FROM THIS GENTLEMAN SAID THEY THEY'D BEEN HERE FROM 1963, SINCE 1963, PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOMES WERE BUILT IN ORANGE COUNTY.
I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MORE SECONDS, 10 SECONDS, 9% OF THOSE HOMES AT 99% OF THE TWO STORY HOMES THAT THEY WERE BUILT, THEY HAVE, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE OTHER, UH, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, BASED UPON THE COMMENTS MADE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PARTICULARLY BY THE CONSULTANT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD AND FEDERAL CITY LIABILITY, IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO THE COUNCIL ON EMOTION GO TO CLOSED SESSION.
SO I CAN ADVISE YOU REGARDING YOUR LEGAL, THE LAW OF THIS AREA AND YOUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES, SO THAT YOU WERE FULLY INFORMED ON THE LAW, THAT YOU CAN COME BACK AND COMPLETE YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
I'D ASK TO HAVE YOU PICK A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
OUR ATTORNEY HAS SAID TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO RECEIVE SOME LEGAL ADVICE.
SO PLEASE VOTE MOTION PASSED FOUR, ZERO.
THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO AND HAVE A CLOSED SESSION AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
I, UM, DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND NOW I AM GOING TO, UM, CALL FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL, AND THERE'S NO ANNOUNCEMENT OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.
SINCE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL, THEN I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
WE SHOULD HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE COUNCIL DECISION MAY BE THIS EVENING.
WOULD ANYONE WISH TO GIVE ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION OR EXPLANATION? YES.
SO TWO ISSUES, OBVIOUSLY THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING, BUT, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE CITY STANDARD, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY FOR, UH, FOR SETBACKS IS, UH, IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET, CORRECT? SO THERE'S A CERTAIN CITY STANDARD THAT, UH, THAT HAS TO BE MET,
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UH, WITHIN, UH, WITHIN THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS, UH, OF THIS ISSUE.UM, AND, UH, PART OF IT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, UH, IS MAINTAINING UNIFORMITY OF, UH, OF THAT SETBACK AS A CITY CODE STATES, JUST THE SAME.
UM, BUT, UH, KEEPING IN MIND THE VARIOUS ISSUES AT HAND, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS, MR. UH, MR.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE SOME, THE COMMUNITY CERTAINLY HAS CONCERNS AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE, UM, UNFAIRLY IMPACT IF WE SHOULD, UM, CHANGE THE STANDARDS OF THE SETBACK.
SO THERE IS A STANDARD THAT THE CITY HAS SET AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WAS TO SUGGEST, BUT, UH, WE SHOULD COMPLY WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND, UM, THIS CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES AS WELL.
UM, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY AS WELL.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD ASK IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WOULD BE MADE BY THE COUNCIL, MADAM MAYOR, IF I JUST MIGHT TAKE A SECOND.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK, UH, THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT WE CARED ENOUGH TO COME UP THERE AND LOOK AROUND.
MOST OF US SHOWED UP AND, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US ACCESS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THIS IS NOT AN EASY SITUATION FOR US.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BALANCING PROPERTY RIGHTS WITH NEIGHBORS RIGHTS AND THAT'S NEVER EASY.
SO, UH, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, SOME THINGS THAT YOU TESTIFIED TO, SOME THINGS THAT WERE ENTERED IN AS EVIDENCE, OR ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN CONCERN OUR SELVES WITH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER THE CITY'S PURVIEW OF LAWS THAT WE DEAL WITH.
THE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT ARE THE LOT SIZE, UH, AND WHETHER OR NOT HE GETS A VARIANCE, UH, TO BUILD A HOUSE.
AND THEN HAVING SAID THAT THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE SETBACK AND WHAT THAT SHOULD BE.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE DIFFICULT THINGS, BUT I THINK, UM, I'M READY TO VOTE.
AND, UH, UH, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR THE, UH, LONG EVENING, BUT I THINK YOUR PROBLEM DESERVED A LOT OF THOUGHT.
AND, UM, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT DELAYS IN TIME, BUT, UH, MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD JUST, UH, SAY THAT I'M READY TO VOTE, OR I GET THEIR EMOTION.
BEFORE WE GO ON THE VOTE TO A VOTE, COULD I, OR MOTION, COULD I POSSIBLY MAKE A COMMENT FOR THE RECORD, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE DECISION TO SEE IF THERE REALLY ARE TWO DECISIONS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, BOTH OF US ARE DISCRETIONARY NATURE TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THE SECOND OF THOSE TWO DECISIONS REGARDING THE LOT SIZE, UH, I THINK TWO IMPORTANT POINTS FOR ME TO BE MADE MAYBE THREE, MAYBE THREE POINTS.
UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS, IS TO, TO DENY THIS VARIANCE, UH, AND DETERMINE THAT THE LOT IS, IS, UH, INCOMPATIBLE A LOT FOR PER PREACHER DEVELOPMENT IS TO DENY THE PROPERTY OR THE RIGHT TO BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THEREFORE IT DOES HAVE A HARSH CONSEQUENCE AND THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MEASURE AND RECOGNIZE THAT YOU TO DENY THAT VARIANCE THE RESULT IS SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO HOW YOU MEASURE THAT PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS REGARDING IT, BUT IT IS MEASURED FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD, AND THAT DOES IMPACT THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE LOT.
AND THEN FINALLY WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THOSE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE LOT SIZE ITSELF, UH, IT IS ALSO A SITUATION IN WHICH, UH, DECISIONS WERE MADE IN THE 1950S.
AND IF THE LOT HAD LITERALLY BEEN RECORDED A YEAR EARLIER, THERE'D BEEN A GRANDFATHERING OCCUR.
SO THERE WAS SOME, SOME, SOME EQUITABLE INTERESTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT CONVERSATION REGARDING THE LOT SIZE OF VARIANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE SETBACK.
UH, THAT'S A BROADER CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL AND IS SUBJECT TO MORE DISCRETION.
AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE WITH RESPECT TO THE RECORD, UH, BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE AREA HAD MADE A NUMBER OF VERY VALID ARGUMENTS,
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SOME OF WHICH DO BEAR WITH RESPECT TO DECISIONS, EATING A SUB-DOMAIN WITH RESPECT TO QUESTIONS, SUCH AS, UH, TURNAROUNDS AND FIRE ISSUES.THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND PRESCRIPTIVE RIGHTS ARE REALLY BEYOND THE DOMAIN OF THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
AND TO OUR KNOWLEDGE HAS NO RECORDED EASEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THAT USE, BUT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO LIQUIDATE LITIGATE, LITIGATE THAT QUESTION ON YOUR OWN INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY.
HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD INDICATE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE GENERAL PLAN, THE OVERALL COMPATIBILITY OF THIS PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, AND ALSO THE IMPORTANT NATURE OF MAINTAINING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UH, THE ENFORCEABILITY OF OUR OWN CODES AND OUR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS AND FACTORS THAT THE COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER AND WEIGH AS THEY CONSIDER DELIBERATE THIS EVENING ON HOW TO ACT WITH RESPECT TO THESE TWO IMPORTANT DECISIONS, BOTH OF WHICH REQUIRE DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND I WOULD TURN IT BACK TO THE MAYOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. JONES.
UH, SO THERE WAS A MOTION THAT WAS GOING TO BE MADE.
MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION ON BOTH ITEMS AND DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN WITH THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF COUNCIL ACTION IN TWO WEEKS IN TWO WEEKS.
NO, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE TWO RESOLUTIONS.
IF APPROVED THOSE RESOLUTIONS WOULD THEN SUSTAIN THE ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND? OH, MADAM MAYOR.
AND THEN I WILL ASK FOR COUNCIL TO VOTE MADAM MAYOR BEFORE WE VOTE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO THIS COUNCIL AND TO THIS CITY.
AND SO, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE MOTION ON THE SETBACK, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, IT'S THE LAW WE EXPECTED OF EVERYONE.
IT'S NOT BEING DOLED OUT AS SOMETHING SEPARATE FOR ONE PERSON AND NOT TO ANOTHER.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT CONSISTENCY IS SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO HIT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND THAT'S WHERE MY VOTE COMES IN.
UH, WE CAN HAVE THE COUNCIL VOTE PLEASE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING THIS EVENING.
AND, UH, IF SOMEONE CAN GET THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW TO COME BACK IN.
[2. DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN That the City Council: A. Receive public comments; and B. Consider and approve the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Annual Action Plan for the City of La Habra Community Development Block Grant Program; and, C. Approve and authorize the City Manager to execute the City of La Habra’s annual application and certifications and submit the Annual Action Plan to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for its Community Development Block Grant Funding Approval/Agreement in the amount of $636,529.]
TO PROCEED WITH ITEM TWO, WHICH IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CDBG PROGRAM APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2021, 2022 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.AND WE CAN HAVE A STAFF REPORT PLEASE.
MAYOR ESPINOSA MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ANDREW HO DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THE STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING WILL BE PRESENTED BY SUSAN LOUIE HOUSING SPECIALIST.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE FINAL COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 21, 22 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IS DUE TO HUD BY MAY 15TH OF EACH YEAR, THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 2122 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN GRANT ALLOCATION OF $636,529.
THE DRAFT FISCAL YEAR 2122 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENTS FOR 30 DAY PERIOD FROM MARCH 19TH TO APRIL, 1920 21 TODAY CONCLUDES THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.
AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS ON FEBRUARY 10TH, 2021.
THE COMMISSION MADE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING LEVELS AND NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAVE PROPORTIONALLY REDUCED RECOMMENDED AMOUNTS MADE BY THE COMMISSION BECAUSE HUD RELEASED THE FINAL NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 21, 22 ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2021, WHICH WERE ALMOST 50,000 LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE PUBLIC SERVICE CAP IS 15% AND THE ADMINISTRATION CAP IS 20%.
THIS YEAR, $636,529 IS AVAILABLE AND DISTRIBUTED TO A TOTAL OF NINE ACTIVITIES.
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WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT CITY COUNCIL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AFTER CONDUCTING THE PUBLIC HEARING APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND ALLOWS CITY MANAGER TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ALL REQUIRED CERTIFICATIONS AND AGREEMENTS TO HUD.YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMING, DEVELOPMENT STUFF IS AVAILABLE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? I'LL ASK ONE REAL QUICK.
I SEE WE HAVE $150,000 GOING TO ALLY IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THERE A, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS OR ALLIE SEGMENTS WOULD BE IMPROVED? UM, WITH THIS FUNDING? ACTUALLY, IF I MAY, UH, IN SPEAKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, THIS FUNDING IN COMBINATION WITH SOME OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UH IT'S IS A PLAN TO TRY TO ACCELERATE THE PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND FINISH ALL THE REMAINING ALLEYS WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND GET THEM ALL DONE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES IN THE CDBG AREA.
HE'S LOOKING TO TRY TO CATCH HER ALL ALONG.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WILL NOW OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD IN SUPPORT OR AN OPPOSITION VERY WELL.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK FOR ANY DISCUSSION ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL ADAM MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE TONIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK WITH THE CDBG, UH, PLAN.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR WORK WITH THAT.
AND I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND TO CONSIDER AND APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND THE PROVEN AUTHORIZED CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CITY OF LA HAVAS ANNUAL APPLICATION AND CERTIFICATION SUBMIT THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO THE U S DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDING APPROVED AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $636,529.
IS THERE A SECOND? THAT'LL SECOND.
WOULD THE COUNCIL PLEASE VOTE MOTION PASSED FIVE ZERO.
[1. CONSIDER THE AWARD OF A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE LA HABRA DEPOT THEATER TO PHANTOM PROJECTS THEATRE GROUP FROM MAY 1, 2021 THROUGH APRIL 30, 2026 That the City Council approve and authorize the City Manager to execute a Management Agreement with Phantom Projects Theatre Group for the management, operation, and programming of the Depot Theater.]
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE MAY REQUEST TO ADDRESS THE LA HARBOR CITY COUNCIL ON ANY CONSIDERATION ITEM PRIOR TO THE HARBOR CITY COUNCIL TAKING ANY FINAL VOTE ON THE ITEM.PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER CONSIDERATION ITEM, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR THE PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
ITEM ONE IS TO CONSIDER THE AWARD OF, OF A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE LA HARBOR DEPOT THEATER TO PHANTOM PROJECTS THEATER GROUP FROM MAY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2026.
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, UH, CAN YOU PLEASE NOTE, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN ON THIS ITEM AND LEAVE THE ROOM BECAUSE I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF THE SETTLERS HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
AND HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
THEN WE CAN HAVE A STAFF REPORT PLEASE.
MADAM MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU TONIGHT.
UM, EARLY IN 2020, THE MYSTERIUM THEATER WAS OPERATING ON A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE AND DECIDED TO VACATE AND MARCH STAFF.
WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER OPERATOR WHO WISHED TO DO THEATER PROGRAMMING AT THE DEPO THEATER.
SO WE WENT TO COUNCIL AND CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS OUR OPTIONS COUNCIL.
AT THAT TIME, SUGGESTED THAT WE MIGHT PUT OUT AN RFP.
SO BETWEEN APRIL AND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, STAFF DID A FACILITY ASSESSMENT TO SEE WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE THEATER WAS.
AND WE ALSO MADE MINOR REPAIRS AND SOME FACILITY PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED.
THEN WE RELEASED AN RFP IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
THE, UM, RESULTS FROM THE RFP OR THE RESPONSES FOR THE RFP WERE DUE ON MARCH 1ST, WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES TO OUR RFP.
FOUR OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE FROM THEATER
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GROUPS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THEATER AT THE DEPO THEATER.UM, LIKE IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1976 AND ONE WAS FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY OR OLD SETTLERS WHO WISH TO MOVE, UH, FROM THEIR CURRENT LOCATION NEXT TO THE LIBRARY INTO THE DEPOT THEATER.
SO STAFF SET UP OR STAFF EVALUATE ALL FIVE OF THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL FIVE MET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AS RE IN THE RFP.
SO STAFF SET UP AN EVALUATION PANEL TO BE AN INDEPENDENT, UM, PANEL, UM, UH, TO RE TO, I'M SORRY TO EVALUATE THE THEATER OR THE OPTIONS OF THE RESPONDENTS.
UM, ON THE FIRST PANEL WE HAD, UH, THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM BOARD.
WE HAD ONE OF THE ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENTS FROM THE HARBOR CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE HAD ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES MANAGERS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT FIRST PANEL.
IT WAS CLEAR THAT THERE WERE TWO CANDIDATES, UH, OUR PROPOSALS WHO WERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE REST.
SO WE DECIDED TO CREATE A SECOND PANEL OF EVALUATORS.
NOW THAT PANEL INCLUDED THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT FROM THE FRIENDS OF THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM AND, UM, A MEMBER OF THE LAHABRA HOST LION'S CLUB.
AND LET'S SEE THE THIRD ONE, ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEER EXTRAORDINAIRES THAT ARE, UM, UH, ESSENTIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE CHOSE SPECIFICALLY OF THESE INTERVIEWS, UH, PANELISTS TO BE MY GLASSES ARE FOGGING, SORRY, UM, TO BE, UH, UH, COMMUNITY-BASED EVALUATORS, NOT THEATER BASED BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, PARTNERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT WE COULD, UH, DO PROGRAMMING WITH.
AND THAT WOULD BE A TRUE PARTNER OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND OF COURSE THE MUSEUM NEXT DOOR, I THINK, TAKE YOUR MASK OFF.
YOU THINK THAT'S ALL? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
SO, UM, STAFF REFUTE, I REVIEWED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT PANEL AND WE FOUND THAT PHANTOM PROJECTS THEATER GROUP WAS AWARDED A 94 OUT OF 100.
AND THE SECOND GROUP ELECTRIC COMPANY THEATER WAS AWARDED A 76 STAFF, TOOK THOSE RESULTS TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION ON APRIL 14TH.
AND WE ALLOWED THE COMMITTEE SERVICES COMMISSION TO, UH, ADDRESS THE, UM, THE, UH, PHANTOM PROJECTS THEATER GROUP TO, TO SEEK MORE DIFF, UM, DETAILS WITHIN THEIR PROPOSAL STAFF.
ALSO, UM, LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT AS A PART OF THE AGREEMENT PROPOSAL, THE CITY OF LA HABRA WOULD RECEIVE $1,250 A MONTH RENT WITH UP TO $750 OF THAT MONTH.
UM, IN LIEU OF PROJECTS AND FORGIVABLE IN LIEU OF PROJECTS AT THE THEATER, WE WOULD ALSO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO THE CITY TO HAVE UP TO 12 WEEKS A YEAR, UM, PROGRAMMING AT THE THEATER, WHAT THAT WOULD DO WHILE WE PROBABLY WON'T USE THE ENTIRE 12 WEEKS.
BUT WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, IF YOU WERE AT THE TAMALE FESTIVAL TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD OUR SPEAKER'S CORNER OR AUTHOR'S CORNER INSIDE THE THEATER.
IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO HAVE, UM, PROGRAMS WITH THE, UH, THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND HOPEFULLY SOME CIVIC, OTHER ACTIVITIES.
SO AFTER A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FROM OUR, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN ZERO TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD PHANTOM, UH, PHANTOM PROJECTS, THEATER GROUP WITH A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE DEPO THEATER.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ASK COUNCIL FOR THE SAME, BUT WHILE WE ARE ASKING THIS REQUEST TO COUNCIL, WE WANT TO MAKE A SHOW THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ALSO VERY SENSITIVE TO THE REQUEST OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THEIR LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, OR, OR ALSO KNOWN AS THE OLD SETTLERS DID SUBMIT, UM, OUR RESPONSE TO THE RFP.
AND THEY DID NOT SCORE HIGH ENOUGH TO MAKE THE SECOND ROUND, BUT WE ARE STILL VERY INTERESTED IN HELPING THEM MAKE THEIR MUSEUM VIABLE.
ONCE AGAIN, AS YOU PROBABLY AGREE, THE SUCCESS OF AN OPERATION SHOULD NOT RELY ON FOOT TRAFFIC FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, BUT SHOULD BE IN IT OF ITSELF, A DRAW FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN BY PARTNERING WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
AS YOU PROBABLY RECALL, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UNDER COUNSEL'S AUTHORITY, THE CITY AWARDED THE LAHABRA HOST LIONS, UM, A LEASE AGREEMENT AT THE VETERAN'S HALL WITH THAT IN LIEU OF PAYING FULL RENT AND, AND NOT PAYING THE DOLLAR ANNUAL THAT A LOT OF OTHER NONPROFITS DO.
THE LAHABRA HOSTS LIONS VOLUNTEERED TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS IN LIEU OF THAT RENT.
AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THEY DID AGREE TO ASSIST THE CITY ON WAS PROVIDING DOCENT SERVICES AT THIS MUSEUM.
THEY THOUGHT THAT BEING NEXT DOOR, THAT THEY COULD, UM, HELP THE MUSEUM.
AND WITH THAT, UM, THE CITY STAFF, WE HAVE GONE TO THE LAHABRA, UM, CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SAID THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO BRING EVERY THIRD GRADE CLASS INTO THE MUSEUM AND TO VISIT ONE ONCE A YEAR, UM, IN THEIR THIRD GRADE NOW TO MAKE THAT
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EASIER STAFF HAS REACHED OUT TO THE FORMER CURATOR OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.AND SHE HAS VOLUNTEERED TO CREATE US A CURRICULUM FOR THE THIRD GRADE CLASS.
SO THAT WAY IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR THE TEACHERS TO TEACH AND THE WHOLE, A FIELD TRIP TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE.
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO DO THAT WITH LOWELL JOINT EVENTUALLY, AND WE'D ALSO LIKE TO REACH OUT.
AND ONCE THEY OPEN TO THE LIBRARY, WE THINK THAT A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE LIBRARY, THE LAHABRA HOST LIONS WITH THE VETERANS GROUP AND AMERICAN LEGION AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE SYNERGY THAT WE COULD CREATE IN THAT CORNER OF THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY 50 TEENAGERS FROM, UM, OUT IN THE ATRIUM WAITING.
AND WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE OUTSIDE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER, A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, WE HAVE MR. HANNAH AND MR. MCMILLAN WHO WERE ON THE SECOND, UM, INTERVIEW PANEL.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION.
I THINK MAYBE ONE PERSON COULDN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT, BUT THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU SHOULD REQUIRE MR. MCMILLAN AND COMMISSION SHARE.
FELIX ARE ALSO HERE, UM, AS SUPPORTERS OF THE, UM, OR MEMBERS OF THE LAHABRA HOSTS LIONS.
WE HAVE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE MANAGERS, DAVID DELYON AND KIM L BERRIEN, WHO WERE ESSENTIAL IN THIS RFP PROCESS.
UM, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE MR. STEVE CISNEROS, WHO IS THE OPERATOR OF THE PHANTOM PROJECTS THEATER GROUP.
SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING MY REPORT.
AND IF YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, I COULD ASK MR. CISNEROS TO COME IN OR ANYBODY ELSE.
WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHO THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO LET ME APPROACH HIM IN TORONTO.
SO, UM, I'M CURIOUS HERE ABOUT THE, UH, THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE, UH, OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
UM, HAVE WE REACHED OUT AT ALL TO ANY OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR TO THE SUPERINTENDENT? YES, WE HAVE TO CULVERHOUSE AT ALL.
YES WE HAVE, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS THEIR TAKE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIT IT WITHIN THEIR DAYS OF ENROLLMENT.
AND IF I COULD MANAGE TO, UM, CREATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LIONS TO HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THE BUS AND THE TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WILL BE MINIMAL, BUT THERE THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
AND, UH, UM, I'M INTRIGUED BY THIS.
NOW THE OTHER THING IS LOW JOINT IN, IN MY EYES ARE OFTEN FORGOTTEN.
UH, AND I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S LA COUNTY ORANGE COUNTY.
UM, BUT, UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OUTREACH TO THE SUPERINTENDENT MR. COLON? I HAVE NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO ALMOST EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE.
HE'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO REACH OUT TO HIM IF, UM, THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT.
SO, BUT WE WILL, HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO US IN A LOT OF OUR, UM, OUR CURRENT PROJECTS, ANY THOUGHT, UH, TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS AT ALL.
I MEAN, I, AND I GET IT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT AT THIRD GRADE, BUT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF A, I MEAN, IN THE UPPER GRADES, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, THAT THEY GET A REHASHING OF SORTS, YOU KNOW, OF, OF OUR HISTORY.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN AREA.
I THINK, WHERE, WHERE OUR MAYOR HAD, I HAD GROWN UP IN, IN THE CAMPS, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY DO KNOW THE HISTORY OF, OF THE CAMPS AS WELL.
UH, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE, WHERE THE SETTLERS MUSEUM ENDS UP.
WE HADN'T REACHED OUT YET TO THE FULLERTON JOINT UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD.
AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, TOO.
UM, WHILE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE READY AND WILLING TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL TONIGHT, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY GETTING ALONG ON TIME.
I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, AT THE VERY LEAST I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE HEARING FROM MR. CISNEROS SINCE HE'S REPRESENTING PHANTOM AND WOULD BE THE OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, HEAR FROM HIM AND HEAR ABOUT HIS AREA.
WE, I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE SOME SPEAKER CARDS, ALSO FEW, JUST A FEW FOR THEN THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHEN SHOULD WE HEAR MR. SISNERO? UM, AS WELL, I'M SURE I COULD GO GET THEM OR I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY CAN, IF THEY DO, THEY KNOW WE CAN GET THE REST OF THEM RIGHT HERE.
I'M GOING TO PUT MY MASK BACK UP.
I DIDN'T NOTICE YOU WALK IN GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF, A PLEASURE TO BE HERE, TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF LA HABRA, OUR HISTORY, AND WHAT WE HAVE IN STORE FOR THE YEARS AHEAD.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR US.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. STINSON ERA? I DO HAVE ONE.
UH, DO YOU EVER HAVE PLAYED? I KNOW THAT WHEN WE, I ACTUALLY TOOK KIDS, UM, UH, LOW-INCOME KIDS TO THE PLAY.
AND THE REASON I TOOK THEM WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LATIN WITHIN BILINGUAL AND,
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UH, IN THE HEIGHTS WAS THERE.AND, UH, THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT ARE THE CHILDREN THAT I WAS TAKING TOO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY BILINGUAL PLAYS THAT YOU WOULD POSSIBLY HAVE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO IN OUR VERY FIRST PROPOSAL RESPONSE, WE INCLUDED OUR GOAL TO HAVE BILINGUAL PROGRAMMING AND THE LAHABRA DEPO, UM, INITIATIVE OF THAT, UH, OUR LAST 24 YEARS, UH, WE EXPANDED RECENTLY ON TO A NATIONAL LEVEL AND WE HAD A BILINGUAL SHOW ABOUT SCIENCE THAT ACTUALLY TRAVELED THROUGHOUT THE US.
IT ACTUALLY PLAYED FOUR PERFORMANCES AT THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE ELEMENT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BILINGUAL PROGRAMMING.
WE'VE DEFINITELY STUDIED THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF LAHABRA AND I'VE FOUND THAT'S A, IT'S A CRUCIAL ELEMENT FOR US TO INVOLVE.
SO BILINGUAL PROGRAMMING IS ABSOLUTELY, UM, GOING TO BE A FOCUS OF WHAT WE DO AT THE PROGRAMMING AT THE DEPOT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL MAYOR IF I MIGHT, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE DEPO THEATER, UH, PHANTOM GROUP, WHATEVER WE CALL IT, UM, INVOLVES LAHABRA YOUTH.
SO HOW DO YOU RECRUIT AND HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE BASIS OF YOUR GROUP ARE LAHABRA ANS ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, UH, ONE OF TWO THINGS I'LL ADDRESS ONE ASPECT, WHICH IS HOW WE GET YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED.
AND YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THERE'S 50 YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, IN THE OVERFLOW.
UM, AND THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN A MATTER OF ABOUT AN HOUR, JUST TO HAVE OUR TEENS CREATING A TEXT WEB SAYING WHAT WAS HAPPENING TONIGHT.
AND THE RESPONSE WAS INCREDIBLE AND INSTANTANEOUS, AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL WE HAVE HERE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, UH, WE'VE BEEN A RESIDENT PRESENTING GROUP.
I BELONG RUN A THEATER, PERFORMING ARTS, WHERE THE CITY FUNDS ARE FOR SHOW SEASON OVER THERE.
IN ADDITION TO GIVING US A WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE SPACE TO DO WHAT WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH THAT WE'VE OFFERED NUMEROUS CLASSES, PUBLIC SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, UM, AND HAVE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THE COMMUNITY GROUPS, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, KIWANIS.
UM, ALL OF THEM ARE GREAT SUPPORTERS OF WHAT WE DO BECAUSE OF OUR SUCCESS IN INVOLVING OUR COMMUNITY.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAMMING WE OFFER, UM, ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, UH, ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM, UH, ONE IS A SENIOR AT-WILL HOPPER HIGH SCHOOL.
AND ONE IS A PARENT HERE IN LAHABRA WHOSE DAUGHTER HAS BEEN INVOLVED THEIR GROUP FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, SO IT WAS NOT DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND AN ALREADY AN IMPACT WE HAVE IN LA OPERA.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT IN A GREAT WAY.
IN FACT, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO IS MAKE MANY PHONE CALLS TO ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS IN LAHABRA TO ENSURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING, TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR GOALS WOULD BE IN THE DEPO THEATER AND HOW WE CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
MY PROPOSAL MEANS NOTHING IF AFTER THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IT'S NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR.
SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE TAKING THOSE FIRST STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO WHAT THE GROUPS WANT, WHETHER IT BE CIVIC GROUPS, NONPROFIT GROUPS, THE CHAMBER, UM, FIND OUT HOW CAN WE CAN BE AN ASSET IN THE COMMUNITY ON EVERY LEVEL AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO WEALTH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR THIS GENTLEMEN? YES.
UH, SO YOU, UH, YOU HIT THE MAGIC BUTTON OF SAR TO YOU.
YOU SAID YOU HAD, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE HUNTER HIGH SCHOOL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IN, IN WANTING TO GET OUR YOUTH INVOLVED, NOT ONLY THAT, OF COURSE, THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS NOW THEY DO HAVE, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, AT THE THEATER AT LA HABRA HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT INTRIGUES ME HERE AS WELL IS THAT THERE ARE YOUNGER KIDS HERE IN LA HABRA AND THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED AND USE THIS, IF NOT AS A SPRINGBOARD OF SORTS.
SO WHEN THEY GET THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT YOU WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO? ABSOLUTELY.
IN FACT, WE WORK WITH CHILDREN AS YOUNG, AS FIVE YEARS OLD AND OUR PROGRAMS. UM, IN FACT, THE LAHABRA HIGH SCHOOL, SENIOR WHO'S 18 YEARS OLD NOW HAS BEEN INVOLVED, I THINK SINCE SHE WAS ABOUT NINE OR 10.
UM, AND SO WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION, INDIVIDUALS TEND TO STAY INVOLVED FOR 10 PLUS YEARS AND GROW WITHIN OUR PROGRAM.
UM, ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS WE DO WITH LAMARA THEATER, AND IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE TO 1300 SEAT THEATER, IT'S A LARGE VENUE.
AND WE FILL THAT THEATER FOR EVERY PERFORMANCE.
WE DO SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT WE DO THAT REALLY KNOW THE THEATER DOES AS WE CAST AGE APPROPRIATE.
SO WHEN WE DO A SHOW ABOUT, LET'S SAY WE DO DIARY OF ANNE FRANK, ALL THE ADULTS ARE PLAYED BY ADULTS, BUT IT'S CRUCIAL FOR US TO CAST YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE ROLES THAT ARE YOUNG PEOPLE.
SO EVERY TIME WE'VE DONE THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK AND FRANK IS PLAYED BY A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL, AND THAT'S MOTIVATIONAL FOR MANY REASONS.
ONE, THE YOUNG AUDIENCES SEE THAT AND THEY REALIZE I CAN DO THAT.
AND THIS GROUP IS GOING TO PUT THAT FAITH IN ME TO CARRY THIS SHOW AND THAT CONNECTION THAT OCCURS BECAUSE OF THAT AS UNLIKE NO OTHER.
AND AFTER ALL OF OUR SHOWS, THE ENTIRE CAST GOES IN THE LOBBY AFTERWARDS, WE TAKE PICTURES, SIGN AUTOGRAPHS, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE THE EXPOSURE TO THE ARTS, EITHER AS AN AUDIENCE MEMBER OR ONSTAGE WITH US.
AND IT'S ALL ABOUT US HAVING THAT PROFESSIONAL QUALITY THEATER WITH A COMMUNITY THEATER ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT'S HOW YOUNG PUPIL AND OUR PROGRAM
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WILL GROW.AND WE'LL LEARN TO LOVE THE POWER OF PERFORMING ARTS THROUGH WHAT WE DO MERIT ALSO.
AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUT A UNIMPORTANT SEGMENT OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY OR OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY.
IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO GET OUR SENIORS INVOLVED? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, ONE, WE WOULD START SOME CLASSES FOR SENIORS, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
WE DON'T CURRENTLY OFFER THAT THROUGH OUR LAMA ROTTER PROGRAMMING, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY EXPAND TO THROUGH OUR EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE CASTING.
WE'VE HAD MANY SENIORS IN OUR PERFORMANCES BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S THAT GOAL TO CAST AGE APPROPRIATE IN THAT WAY AND PERFORMERS OVER, YOU KNOW, 60 TO 70 YEARS OLD, THE CASTING OPPORTUNITIES DROP OFF IN A MAJOR WAY, UM, IN THIS, IN THIS INDUSTRY.
SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON STAGE WITH US WITHOUT AGE EVER BEING A FACTOR IN THAT ELEMENT.
THANK YOU GUESS I'LL HAVE TO GET AN AGENT NOW YOU'RE CAST, YOU'RE HIRED THE FIRST TIME SEEING THE THEATRICAL ENVIRONMENT AND OVER A YEARS, I'M ALREADY LOVING, JUST BEING IN HERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR THIS GENTLEMEN? UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SISNERO.
I DID GO TO THE WEBSITE AND I SAW A QUOTE OF YOURS ABOUT GETTING THOSE THAT ARE HARDEST TO REACH.
UM, SO THAT'S THE GOAL HERE? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT WAS A GREAT QUOTE FROM FORBES.
THEY HAD WRITTEN AN ARTICLE ABOUT US SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REACH AN AUDIENCE THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REACH, AND THAT WAS A VERY POWERFUL ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT.
UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE KENT HERE.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING INTO THEATER PRODUCTION PROPOSAL, BUT CAN'T, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE, THANK YOU.
KENT ROBERTS, PRESIDENT OF THE OLD SETTLERS HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
AND, UH, WHEN I CALLED SOME OF OUR SUPPORTERS LAST WEEK, I KIND OF CAME UP WITH A NEW DEFINITION OF OLD SETTLERS.
AND, UH, UH, WHEN I CALLED HIM, UH, AND ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD MAKE A PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, UH, UNIVERSALLY, EVERYONE SAID NO.
AND THEN I REALIZED THAT EVERYONE ON CALLING WAS IN THEIR EIGHTIES OR NINETIES.
SO I COULD KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, IS IT GOING TO BE DARK BECAUSE I DON'T DRIVE AFTER DARK.
SO, UH, THE OLD SETTLERS IS, AS IT SAYS, IS OLD.
SO BASICALLY, UH, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE WHOLE THEATER STARTED AS A MOVEMENT BACK IN, UH, 1976 AND STARTED OUT LOOKING AT CHILDREN'S PLAYS BY 1980.
THEY, UH, MOVED TO THE ADULT PLAY MARKET.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UH, THE FIRST SHOW WAS OKLAHOMA.
AND IN 1982, THEY MOVED INTO WHAT WE NOW KNOW IS THE DEPO THEATER.
AND, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THEY HAD A TON OF VOLUNTEERS THAT MADE UP THE BOARD THAT MADE UP SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT DID THE PROJECTION FOR SOME OF THE PLACE.
UH, THEY HAD A FUNDRAISING ARM, YOU MIGHT SAY, MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS AND THEY THRIVED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THEN THEY HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THEY STRUGGLED.
AND FINALLY THAT LED TO THE FACT THAT OF THE BASIC SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY JUST KIND OF WENT AWAY AND THEY BASICALLY CLOSED IT DOWN AND DISSOLVED THE DEPO THEATER AS A NONPROFIT.
SO WE'VE HAD 40 YEARS COMBINATION OF NONPROFITS AND FOR PROFIT COMPANIES THAT BASICALLY ARE IN THE, IN THE DEPOT THEATER.
AND, UH, THEY WERE THE ONE AND ONLY VENUE IN LA OPERA FOR THAT 40 YEARS, THERE WAS NO ALTERNATIVES, BUT NOW WE KNOW THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE AND THAT IS THAT A DOUBLE DIGIT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR FACILITY AT LA HARBOR HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, THE ONE WITH 600 PLUS SEATS, UH, WITH THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY, THE BEST THAT MONEY CAN BUY AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A BUDGET EVERY YEAR THAT ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S FUNDED BY THE FLORIDA
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AND UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT.SO, UH, I THINK THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT THAT FACILITY IS GOING TO DOMINATE, UH, THE THEATER PRODUCTION ERA AND THIS CITY FOR DECADES TO COME.
I THINK THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE TRUE.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PROUD OF.
SO, UH, TONIGHT, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ABOUT SIMPLY APPROVING PHANTOM, PHANTOM AS A SUCCESSFUL COMPANY.
THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE MONEY AND THEY WOULD DO WELL.
AND ANY LOCATION THEY WENT INTO TO ME, THE REAL CENTRAL ISSUE IS WHAT IS THE BEST TO USE OF THAT FACILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, I'VE HEARD IN THE STAFF REPORT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LION'S CLUB AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UH, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD A RUMOR, BUT I HAVE HAD NO PART IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, IF I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ALLIANCE CLUB ABOUT DOCENTS, I WOULD SIMPLY TELL THEM THE TRUTH.
AT THE REASON WE CLOSED THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM IS BECAUSE THE DOCENTS ON THE HEAVY TRAFFIC DAY OF SATURDAY WENT FROM HAVING A PRETTY GOOD CROWD EVERY SATURDAY TO HAVING NOBODY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A PERSON THAT REAL ESTATE AND I WAS TAUGHT IN MY EARLY YEARS THAT THE KEY TO ANY REAL ESTATE IS LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
THE FACT IS WHEN THE CITY MADE THE DECISION TO HAVE THE TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE STREET, IT WAS A GOOD DECISION FOR THE CITY.
HOWEVER, IT CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR US BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT WENT AWAY.
THE FRONT DOOR TO THE LIBRARY, SWITCHED TO THE OTHER SIDE, A NEW PARKING WAS ADDED AT THE, UH, SOUTH END AND THE STREET WAS SHUT OFF.
SO THE DOCENTS CAME TO ME AND SAID, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK WE WANT TO BE HERE ON A SATURDAY WHEN NO ONE WALKS IN THE FRONT DOOR? SO, UH, MAYBE THERE'S IDEAS, BUT ONCE AGAIN, UH, THEY'RE NEW TO ME.
SO I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT PHANTOM.
THE QUESTION IS THIS IS A ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE USE OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING IN PORTOLA PARK.
MY FEELING IS THAT HISTORY IS IMPORTANT AND THAT WE LIVE IN AN ERA OF RAPID CHANGE AND UNCERTAINTY ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
FOR ONE THING ABOUT PAST HISTORY, DOESN'T CHANGE AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN LA HOMBRE ONCE THEY KIND OF ACCEPT IT AS THEIR HOME, THEY GET CURIOUS ABOUT THE EARLY YEARS OF LAHABRA.
AND WHEN I SAY THE EARLY YEARS, I'M BEGINNING WITH, LET'S SAY 1898, WHEN THE OLD SETTLERS WAS ESTABLISHED ALONG WITH A WOMEN'S CLUB AND GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO SOMETIME IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, WHEN LAHABRA STARTED TO GROW FROM A SMALL COMMUNITY OF 5,000 PEOPLE AND IN 1950 TO WHAT IT IS TODAY.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN IN OUR CHILDREN'S MUSIC, EXCUSE ME, IN OUR HISTORICAL MUSEUM, YOU'LL REALIZE THAT IT'S KIND OF A VISUAL AND LISTENING EXPERIENCE.
SO WHEN I HAVE BEEN THERE, I'M JUST KIND OF AS A, A DOCENT SOMETIME I WOULD OBSERVE PEOPLE THAT WALKED INTO THE MILLS GENERAL STORE, A REPLICA OF 1923, 98 YEARS AGO.
AND THE ADULTS WOULD LOOK AT THE PRICES AND JUST KIND OF SMILE AND SHAKE THEIR HEAD.
AND THEN THE GRANDMOTHER WOULD SAY, SEE THAT TELEPHONE ON THE WALL AND EXPLAIN THAT IT HAS A CRANK.
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AND THAT'S HOW YOU HAD TO CALL SOMEBODY.AND, OH, BY THE WAY, WE ONLY HAD FOUR NUMBERS.
THAT'S ALL I HAD WHEN I HAD MY FIRST TELEPHONE AND THAT WE HAD A PARTY LINE.
AND EVEN THE TEENAGERS, WHAT'S A PARTY LINE.
AND THEY'VE LOOKED AT THE CANNED GOODS AND SAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS, THAT CANNED GOODS LOOKS THE SAME WAY, THE SAME LABEL TODAY, AS IT DID A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
AND THEN SOMEONE HAD EXPLAINED THE WASHING MACHINE, THE ONE WHERE YOU HAD TO TAKE THE CLOTHES AND USE THE HAND RINGER TO GET OUT THE, UH, THE WATER AND, UH, MADAM MAYOR.
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TONIGHT.
SO IF I CAN INDULGE YOU FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF MINUTES, I'LL WRAP THIS UP.
BUT I THINK THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT POINTS.
OUR LAUNER THEATER IS BOTH A VISUAL AND IT'S A PLACE TO LISTEN.
AND WE PROBABLY HAVE DONE 40, MAYBE 50 INTERVIEWS WITH ORDINARY FOLKS THAT LIVE IN LAHABRA.
AND SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WELL-KNOWN AND WE HAVE THESE 10 MINUTES STORYTELLING, YOU MIGHT CALL IT.
AND OUR FIRST INTERVIEW THAT WE DID WAS A LADY THAT'S NOW DECEASED, WHO HAD TO GIVE US THE DETAILS ABOUT HER SISTER DATING RICHARD NIXON.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THE END OF THAT STORY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY LIKE OVER THE TOP.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE CHUCK CLAYTON, WHO SOME OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHO MADE A POINT THAT HE ALWAYS TOLD HIS KIDS THAT WHEN I STARTED WORKING, I ONLY WORKED A HALF A DAY.
AND THEN HE CLARIFIED IT TO SAY, I MEAN, IT'S 12 HOURS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE AUDIO TAPES GOING BACK TO THE 1950S OLD SETTLERS THAT ARE BORN IN THE LATE NIGHT, 1880S, 1890S.
AND NOW WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE AUDIO TAPES AND MATCH IT WITH VISUALS AND ADD THAT TO OUR COLLECTION.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE IS FOR THIS COMMUNITY PERIOD, IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME AND SO MANY ASSETS, AND SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN STILL PROVIDE WHAT IT TAKES TO TAKE THE DEPO THEATER AND REPURPOSE IT TO A HISTORICAL MUSEUM.
AND IF YOU READ OUR RESPONSE TO THE RFP, UH, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL IN TERMS OF FUNDING.
WE HAVE ANOTHER $25,000 IN GRANTS THAT'S COMMITTED, AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD IN MY IDEA COLLECTION, GOING BACK QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT I WANTED TO DO INTERVIEWS OF ALL THE LIVING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGERS.
AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO MY UNCLE BEING ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE 1950S AND 1970S.
AND I REALIZED THE CONTRIBUTION THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE MADE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, HAVE A BIG RETIREMENT OFF OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY PAY YOU.
AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO THIS IS THAT WE NOW HAVE A WORLD CLASS FACILITY AT LAHABRA HIGH SCHOOL, NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO SERVE EVERY INTERESTS THAT EVERYBODY WANTS, BUT IT'S A FACT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DOMINANT FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THE DEPOT THEATER IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO USE THAT BUILDING FOR THAT? ISN'T THE BEST ANSWER.
SO THE LAHABRA COMMUNITY, AND I HAVE TOLD PEOPLE THAT IN MY MIND, WE ALREADY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL CHILDREN'S MUSEUM HAVING A, ANOTHER CULTURAL EXPERIENCE WITH A HISTORICAL MUSEUM, COUPLED WITH THE UPCOMING IMMERSION THEATER WOULD GIVE TO THIS CITY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY,
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VERY UNIQUE HAVING THREE CULTURAL EXPERIENCES THAT ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALL WITHIN PORTOLA PARK.AND I THINK THAT'S A LONG-TERM LEGACY, NOT A SHORT-TERM.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE LEFT THE CURRENT LOCATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.
AND I HEAR ALL THESE THINGS ABOUT HOW WE CAN BE HELPED, BUT ONCE AGAIN, ON SATURDAYS, WHEN THERE'S 300 PEOPLE, THEY GO TO THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM ON AN AVERAGE SATURDAY, AND GUESS WHAT? THEY'VE WALKED THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND THROUGH THE PORCH AREA TO GET TO THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT MUSEUM.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN THAT THE PAST HISTORY OF LAHABRA MAYBE LOST.
I MEAN, WHO'S GOING TO PICK IT UP.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, LET'S RECONSIDER IT AGAIN.
I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH, BUT, UH, THIS IS A POINT OF TIME WHERE THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING LONG-TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S A HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND BRAILLE AS A HISTORICAL MUSEUM ON BALBO ISLAND.
AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW ABOUT.
SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A LA HARBOR PERSON.
AND I BELIEVE IN TIMIDITY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M INVOLVED IN SO MANY NONPROFITS THAT ARE LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOCUSED ON LAHABRA I, AND THEY STARTED 20 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S THE COMMUNITY AND PORTOLA PARK IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE A CHANCE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT LONG-TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY, HAVING A HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND A QUALITY LOCATION WITH A VERY QUALITY PROGRAM IS THE RIGHT DECISION.
I'M GOING TO, UM, OTHER FEW COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT AT NINE 45, WE DO HAVE TO CHANGE THE DVD.
UM, SO I WILL BE STOPPING IF WE CONTINUE BEYOND THAT, I WILL STOP AT NINE 45 TO HAVE THE TAPE CHANGE.
SO ARE THERE ANY COUNCILS, A QUESTION FROM THE COUNCIL OR ARE THERE MORE SPEAKERS? ARE THERE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? TWO MORE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH AND THEN I WILL HAVE THE D THE TAPE CHANGED.
YOU PROVIDE US WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
UM, MY NAME IS MEGAN POLI AND I LIVE AT FIVE, FOUR, ZERO GERRY STREET IN LA BRUH.
AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A REALLY LONG NIGHT.
SO, UM, I'VE LIVED IN THE HARBOR FOR 18 YEARS OF THOSE 18 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN A PARENT FOR 15 YEARS, AND OF THOSE 15 YEARS, I'VE BEEN THE PARENT OF THE THEATER CHILD FOR 10 YEARS.
UM, MY DAUGHTER STARTED ACTING WHEN SHE WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.
AND DURING THAT TIME, THOSE 10 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WITH MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY COMMUNITY THEATER GROUPS.
AND I FULL HEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT PHANTOM IS THE BEST OF THE BEST, THE GOLD STANDARD AND THE FIVE BAR, THEIR CLASSES THAT THEY OFFER THE COMMUNITY.
AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE KEEP SAYING COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE TONIGHT IS THEY ARE A COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE A FAMILY.
UM, THE CLASSES THAT THEY OFFER THE COMMUNITY ARE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL CLASSES IN A COMMUNITY SETTING, GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND GAINING SKILLS AND ACTING THE PHANTOM KIDS GAIN SELF-CONFIDENCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING COMFORTABLE IN JUST BEING THEMSELVES.
THEIR TEACHER, DANIELLE KEATON HAS A GIFT FOR WORKING WITH CHILDREN AND TEENS AND ADULTS THAT'S INCOMPARABLE TO ANYTHING ELSE OFFERED LOCALLY.
UM, FURTHERMORE, THE PHANTOM TEAM WORKS VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE THEATER ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, THEY FUNDRAISE LIKE CRAZY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LOW COST, LOW COST,
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UH, TICKETS TO AUDIENCES WHO MIGHT NOT OTHER HAVE OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO LIVE THEATER, NOT ONLY DOING THE SHOWS AT THE THEATER, BUT ALSO BRINGING THOSE SHOWS TO SCHOOLS.AND AGAIN, FOCUSING SO HARD ON MAKING THAT LOW COST AND AFFORDABLE SO THAT SOME KIDS THAT HAVE NEVER SEEN LIVE THEATER GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I FEEL LIKE AFTER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH ARTS AND ARTS EDUCATION AND CULTURE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER.
THEATERS ARE CLOSING LEFT, RIGHT.
AND CENTER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR A YEAR, I THINK IT WOULD BE HORRIBLE TO SHUT DOWN ANOTHER THEATER AND TURN IT INTO ANOTHER VENUE.
IT, IT WANTS A STAGE AND AN AUDIENCE.
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CREATED FOR.
AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO CLOSE DOWN ANOTHER THEATER.
AND THEN JUST REALLY QUICKLY, AS FAR AS THE POINT OF WE'LL HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL, HAVING THIS BRAND NEW, LARGE, HIGH TECH THEATER, THAT'S LIKE SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE LOS ANGELES HAS THE PANTAGEOUS, THEY DON'T NEED ANY SMALL PLAY HOUSES.
THEY'RE APPLES TO ORANGES AND BE EXPERIENCED IN A SMALL SETTING THEATER.
LIKE THE DEPOT IS JUST, CAN'T BE COMPARED TO LARGE THEATERS.
SO IF LAHABRA VOTES TO APPROVE PHANTOM, WE'LL BE GETTING THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
MY NAME IS VERONICA MCFARLAND.
I'M FROM ONE ZERO NINE OR NINE PERISE DRIVE WHITTIER, AND I I'M CURRENTLY A SENIOR AT THE HARBOR HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, MY TIME WITH PHANTOM PROJECT STARTED AT 10 YEARS OLD, MY FAMILY AND I WERE TICKET HOLDERS TO THE LAMAR MAROTTA THEATER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I FIRST STARTED TO APPRECIATE THE ART THAT PHANTOM PROJECT CREATES.
I'D ALWAYS LOVED WATCHING AND DOING THEATER AS A KID, BUT PHANTOM PROJECTS DID IT LIKE NO ONE ELSE.
THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE YOUNG AUDIENCES WITH THEIR FAVORITE BOOKS BEING PERFORMED, LIVE ON STAGE, MINE BEING THE OUTSIDERS AND THE GIVER.
IT WAS THEN THAT I STARTED TO TAKE ACTING CLASSES AND AUDITION FOR A FEW OF THEIR SHOWS.
AT 12 YEARS OLD, I GOT CAST IN THEIR PRODUCTION OF NUMBER OF THE STARS, A BOOK WRITTEN BY LOIS LOWRY.
AND THAT SAME YEAR YEAR, THAT SAME YEAR I GOT CAST INTO THEIR TEENS ON TOUR GROUP, WHICH TOURS AROUND MULTIPLE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND PERFORMS AN ORIGINAL PLAY CALLED CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
TWELVE-YEAR-OLD MEAN NEW WHILE DOING THESE FIRST PRODUCTIONS, THAT PHANTOM PROJECTS WAS GOING TO BE A MAJOR PART IN MY LIFE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND PROBABLY WONDERING HOW A 12 YEAR OLD COULD NO SUCH THING, BUT THE PROOF IS THE 50 PLUS CHAINS IN THAT OTHER ROOM.
I IMMEDIATELY FELT A FAMILY AND I WAS IMMEDIATELY COMFORTABLE BEING MYSELF.
UM, SOME OF WHO ARE HERE SUPPORTING PHANTOM PROJECTS, EVEN GROWING UP WITH THE STRUGGLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF GOING THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND LIVING THROUGH INSECURITIES AND DRAMA.
FANS OF PROJECTS ALLOWED ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT WITH MYSELF, NOT ONLY ON STAGE, BUT OFF STAGE AS WELL, WHICH IS SADLY A VERY RARE FEELING OF A KID, MY AGE TO FEEL I WAS INVOLVED WITH OUR TOURING GROUP FOR TWO YEARS, WHERE WE PERFORMED CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, WHICH IS A SHOW ABOUT PREJUDICE, TOLERANCE, BULLYING, DISCRIMINATION, AND MANY MORE THEMES WE SEE IN HISTORY AND IN OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.
I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT THIS SHOW AND THIS EXPERIENCE WITH PHANTOM NOT ONLY TAUGHT ME HOW TO WORK A PROJECTOR OFF STAGE, HELP OTHERS WITH THEIR QUICK CHANGES OR EVEN HOW TO STEAM A CURTAIN.
BUT IT ALSO TAUGHT ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE THROUGH KINDNESS AND COMPASSION, WHICH IS THE LESSON THAT I DO NOT THINK IS TAUGHT ENOUGH.
I WAS TAUGHT HOW TO BE VULNERABLE IN HER REHEARSALS AND ACTING CLASSES.
EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE ANXIETIES PRESSURING ME TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT MY OPINIONS OR FEELINGS.
I TRULY BELIEVE I AM WHO I AM BECAUSE OF PHANTOM.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T SCARED TO TALK ABOUT THESE TOPICS.
AND OUR GENERATION'S VOICE WAS HEARD THROUGH THEIR SHOWS BECAUSE WE WERE GIVEN THAT PLATFORM.
IF YOU ASK ANYONE OF THE TEENS IN THE OTHER ROOM ABOUT PHANTOM PROJECTS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, INCLUDING PARENTS, STUDENTS, OR AUDIENCE MEMBERS AND TEACHERS HAVE A STORY ABOUT HOW PHANTOM HAS IMPACTED THEM FOR GOOD THAT 12 YEAR OLD GIRL WAS RIGHT.
AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN LAHABRA HIGH SCHOOL THEATER.
AND I ALWAYS COME BACK TO PHANTOM THROUGHOUT MY HIGH SCHOOL YEARS BECAUSE THERE TRULY IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
I HAVE DONE MANY MAIN STAGE SHOWS, UH, TWO YEARS OF TOURING THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.
AND I CONTINUED TO TAKE ACTING CLASSES TO THIS DAY WITH PHANTOM PROJECTS.
I'M ABOUT TO ATTEND COLLEGE PURSUING THEATER AND ACTING.
AND PHANTOM HAS CONTINUED TO BE A BIG PART OF MY LIFE.
I TAKE THESE LESSONS THAT PHANTOM TAUGHT ME AND WHEREVER I GO, INCLUDING MY CURTAIN, STEAMING SKILLS, THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS THEATER PROGRAM, BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT
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WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH PHANTOM PROJECTS, YOU ARE NOT JUST A PERFORMER OR AN AUDIENCE MEMBER OR A DIRECTOR.UM, YOU ARE A FAMILY OF CREATIVE, PASSIONATE PEOPLE.
I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF THIS THEATER COMPANY AND VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT THEY WILL DO NEXT, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WILL BRING HOPE IN ANY WAY THEY CAN.
AND I CANNOT WAIT TO BE INVOLVED.
UM, LAURIE, DO YOU WANT TO SWAP IT OUT RIGHT NOW? THAT'D BE GREAT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE, UH, PROVIDE US WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN 61 AMBER LANE.
UH, I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION AND I'M HERE AS WELL AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN THE CHAMBER TO SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT WITH PHANTOM PROJECTS, THEATER GROUP.
I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
I, I FIRST WANT TO THANK THE GROUP OF TEENS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING VERY PATIENTLY OUTSIDE TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO SEE THEM HERE SUPPORTING, UH, THE THEATER GROUP, AS WELL AS, UH, SPEAKING TO US ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, MR.
FIRST IS HIS COMMITMENT TO OFFER FAMILY ORIENTED PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO ENJOY REGARDLESS OF FINANCIAL OR EVEN PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS.
AND SECOND IS HIS STRONG DESIRE TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND SCHOOLS IN LAHABRA.
LIKE I'M SURE YOU ARE TO SEE THE LA BARBARA DEPO THEATER COME TO LIFE AGAIN.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL, OH, I WILL CALL FOR A CONFLICT DISCUSSION AND OUR ACTION.
I BELIEVE A COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
WELL, I GUESS I'LL LEAD US OFF.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO WAITED SO LONG.
I, UH, WENT OVER INTO THE ATRIUM AND IT WAS VERY,
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UH, HEARTWARMING AND ENCOURAGING TO SEE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, THERE, UM, TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE ON THERE IS QUITE A NUMBER OVER THERE.I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE THAT, UH, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG BOY BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, MY BROTHER GOT CASTS AS, UH, MICHAEL AND PETER PAN THAT WAS PERFORMING AT THE DEPO THEATER.
I THINK THIS WAS ABOUT 1985 OR SO, AND EVERY DAY WITH MY FAMILY WENT THERE AND WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS, UH, DURING THAT PRODUCTION.
AND, UH, JEFF WENT ON TO BE PETER, UH, MICHAEL AND PETER PAN AND YOUR BELINDA, AND THEN AT KNOTT'S BERRY FARM.
AND IT WAS A WHOLE LITTLE CAREER FORUM.
AND, UH, HE, WE, HE PLAYED WITH CATHY RIGBY.
HE WAS A, UH, PLAYED PETER, UM, IN KNOTTSBERRY FARM PRODUCTION.
BUT ONE THING I, I, YOU KNOW, THAT I COULD SEE IN THE ATRIUM AND I SAW AS A YOUNG PERSON GROWING UP WAS THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE FUN OF IT ALL, BUT IT IS AS WAS ALLUDED TO THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT GET MADE AMONGST THOSE CAST MEMBERS.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRODUCTION IS COMING TO AN END, I MEAN, THE TEARS, THE HUGS, THE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO MISS, UH, ARE SO STRONG AND YOU DO CREATE LIFELONG FRIENDS.
AND SO I, THAT REALLY, UM, STRUCK HOME WITH ME AND I APPRECIATED THOSE COMMENTS VERY MUCH.
I, I DO FEEL I'M GENUINELY CONFLICTED ON THIS IDEA BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S SORT OF A GOOD IDEA AND A GOOD IDEA.
UH, I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE THEATER THERE FOR, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I THINK CANCER IS, IS SPOT ON.
WE GOTTA PRESERVE OUR HISTORY.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PEOPLE THINK, OH, THE, THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, BUT WHEN YOU WALK IN THERE, IT'S SO FASCINATING.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU'RE IN THERE, I FIND MYSELF, I CAN'T LEAVE YOU.
YOU WANT TO BE THERE FOR HOURS LOOKING AT ALL THE, THE COOL STUFF.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DO HOPE, UM, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO NOT, I REALLY WANT TO, UM, IF THE HISTORICAL MUSEUM ISN'T BEING MOVED TO THE SIDE OF THE DEPOT THEATER, UM, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND, AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE VIABLE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT KEN ALLUDED TO IS CORRECT THAT WITH, WITH OUR, UH, PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, WE PROBABLY KIND OF KIND OF BURIED THE, THE MUSEUM BACK THERE.
AND NO, ONE'S NO ONE'S FINDING IT VERY WELL ON THEIR OWN.
AND I WOULD LOVE, UH, TO BRING IT FORWARD, UH, BETTER AND TO, AND TO GET PEOPLE MORE ENGAGED THERE AND, AND, AND ENJOYING OUR HISTORY BECAUSE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO I'M, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS ABOUT A MARRIAGE IS NO, THESE ARE BOTH, BUT THEY'RE BOTH GREAT IDEAS.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN COME TO A GOOD DECISION.
ANOTHER COMPLIMENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, MADAM MAYOR, I, I, TO, UH, FEEL CONFLICTED AND I KNOW, UH, TIM'S NO DIFFERENT THAN I AM, UH, MET WITH KENT MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO AND HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE DECLINING POPULATION INSIDE THE MUSEUM.
UH, I FEEL THAT HISTORY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO A COMMUNITY IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CHILDREN OF THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT COMMITMENT TO THE OLD SETTLERS AND FELT LIKE THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE MY SUPPORT A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THEM UNTIL I GOT PRESENTED WITH THE OPTION OF THE PHANTOM GROUP AND A REBIRTH.
AND, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT EXCITEMENT.
AND, UH, I THINK THE REAL CAPPER FOR ME WAS KELLY'S COMMITMENT ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UM, TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO AND THAT'S TO SUPPORT PROP UP AND MAKE OLD SETTLERS MUSEUM, UH, VIABLE.
SO, UM, I THINK IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR US AND THAT THE CITY IS NOW COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THAT POPULATION, FOR THAT HISTORY.
AND, UM, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL, UM, HELP LAHABRA WINS, UH, AND DO BOTH, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM IN DRANO.
UH, CONFLICTED DOESN'T EVEN, UH, DOESN'T EVEN, DOESN'T EVEN SAY IT.
UH, AND, UH, IN TIM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU 100% THE WAY YOU PRESENTED THAT I DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE KIDS NEXT DOOR.
AND ARE THEY STILL THERE? OKAY.
AND AS WELL AS, UH, STEVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TH THIS IS A, THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION.
UM, AND I, TO, I, I SPOKEN WITH, UH, WITH KENT, UH, MOST RECENTLY, AND, UH, I WAS, UH, I TOO WAS HEADED THAT WAY.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, AGAIN,
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AS TIM HAD SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO GOOD THINGS HERE ON THE TABLE.AND, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY FOR THE SETTLERS MUSEUM IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
AND I DO BELIEVE, UH, THAT, UH, THAT OUR, OUR KIDS, UH, OUR, OUR YOUTH NEED TO LEARN THE HISTORY, THE FULL HISTORY, NOT A SELECTED HISTORY.
AND, AND THEY GET THAT OVER AT THE OLD SETTLERS MUSEUM, BUT, UH, UH, TO INVOLVE ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, I THINK IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, SUPER IMPORTANT.
UM, SO, UH, IT TOUGH DECISION, BUT, UH, I, I LIKE WHAT FANDOM HAS TO OFFER.
I KNOW THAT I WAS LISTENING TO BOTH MY HEART WAS TUGGING AND ACTUALLY MY NOSE STARTED BLEEDING.
SO I'VE BEEN HERE TRYING TO KEEP MY NOSE UP IN THE AIR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T DRIBBLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT IT IS, UH, IT IS, UM, IT IS, UH, IT, IT CONCERNED ME ENOUGH TO HAVE HIS HAPPEN.
UH, BUT IT IS OUR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR HISTORY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
IT'S LIKE, THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT, THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT.
UM, AND WHEN KELLY HAD CAME UP WITH THIS, THIS, UH, THIS PLAN, I THOUGHT, OKAY, AT LEAST WE CAN HAVE THIS AS WELL.
AND LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMONIAN SAID, UH, WE HAVE THE COMMITMENT FROM THE STAFF FROM THE CITY BECAUSE OUR HISTORY AND OUR FOUNDERS AND ALL THE HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND JUST KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THE TRAFFIC OVER THERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME.
UM, IT, IT HAS A DIVERSE PEOP UH, DIVERSE COMMUNITY THERE.
THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY, UM, THE RED CAMP, UH, THE, UH, ASTOR KRAMER.
I MEAN, UM, I TOOK A LEADERSHIP CLASS WITH ESTHER KRAMER, AND IT WAS JUST FASCINATING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR HER AND, AND UNDER HER BED, THERE WERE BOXES AND BOXES, THE LA HARVARD STAR, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS LIKE ALL THAT I HAVE, I HAVE THAT MEMORY, BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS THAT MEMORY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THAT LEGACY AS WELL.
SO I WANT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OLD SETTLERS CONTINUES AND THRIVES AND THAT WE CAN HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT OUR HISTORY, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CAN, HE HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY EVERYTHING ABOUT MAKING LA HARBOR, A PLACE THAT HE, HE KNOWS HE'S PROUD IN HIS HEART.
I'M PROUD OF MY HEART, BUT WE WANTED HIM TO EVERY, EVERY FUTURE KID TO BE PROUD OF LA HARBOR AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY HE IS DRIVEN BY THIS.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOU CARED, BUT I DON'T DO, I, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS FOR THE FIRST TIME HAD GONE TO THE MUSEUM OR TO THE PLAYHOUSE BECAUSE, UH, LATIN WAS BILINGUAL.
SO I TOOK, I TOOK THEM THE VERY FIRST TIME THERE TO SEE A LATIN BILINGUAL.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I WENT AGAIN TO TAKE SOME KIDS FROM THAT.
AND AFTER THAT, MY GRANDKIDS WANTED TO BECOME PART OF IT AND ATTENDED THE, UH, THE SUMMER WORKSHOP AND ACTUALLY DID LIGHTING IN THE BACKGROUND, UH, LIGHTING.
THEY WERE INVOLVED IN A PLAY AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, AND IT WAS GOOD EXPOSURE.
AND, AND THAT WAS, I THINK, SO BENEFITING TO THEM BECAUSE IT LET THEM BREAK OUT OF THEIR SHELL AS WELL.
NOT THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY 100% OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, CONFIDENT IN ALL THAT, BUT IT GAVE HIM, IT WAS BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THEIR FUTURE AS WELL.
SO FOR ME, IT'S BOTH OF THEM IMPORTANT.
AND I THINK JUST KNOWING THE KELLY HAS COME UP WITH THIS AND MAYBE A VIRTUAL TOUR, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
A VIRTUAL TOUR OF THE OLD SETTLERS AS WELL, HAS TO BE INCLUDED IN THERE FOR THOSE THAT ARE HOME BOUND AND CANNOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN STILL ACCESS THE HISTORY OF IT OR TEACH IT IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY'RE TEACHING IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS BY VIRTUAL AS WELL, BECAUSE, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I DEFINITELY, UH, WHY DO WE KENT? AND I TALKED AND I HAD ASKED CAT ONE, BUT ONE TIME I GO, WHEN DID YOU ESTABLISH HERE AND GO THERE 1923? AND I GO, HEY, MY MOTHER CAME JANUARY 23RD, 1923.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE THE LITTLE PICTURE OF THE TAX HEAD WHEN SHE SAID, WHEN THEY PAID TO COME OVER HERE AND MY GRANDFATHER WAS ALREADY HERE IN LA HARVEST.
SO YOU AND I ARE SO GOOD TO CELEBRATE A HUNDRED YEARS LIVING IN LA HARBOR FROM OUR FAMILY HISTORY, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE VERY PROUD, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE WANTED THAT PROUDNESS TO CONTINUE.
SO I KNOW THAT I THINK MY BLEEDING STUFF COULD, I THINK I FINALLY BAD KID, BUT, UM, I THINK WE CAN NOW, UM, GO AHEAD AND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, MAKE A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, IF I MIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
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TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH PHANTOM PROJECTS, THEATER GROUP FOR THE MANAGEMENT OPERATION AND PROGRAMMING OF THE DEPOT THEATER AND WORK WITH THE OLD SETTLERS ON PROMOTION AND OPERATION OF THE OLD SETTLERS MUSEUM.ON SECOND WITH THE COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STAYING LATE THIS
[2. CONSIDER THE DISPLAY OF THE PHRASE "IN GOD WE TRUST" IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER That the City Council provide direction to staff regarding the display of the phrase "In God We Trust" in the City Council Chamber.]
EVENING.CONSIDER THE DISPLAY OF THE PHRASE IN GOD WE TRUST IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
SO IF WE COULD HAVE A STAFF REPORT, MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS ROBERT FARRIER FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UM, IF I COULD HAVE, UH, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN LIGHT OF THE LATE HOUR, I COULD CUT RIGHT TO THE CHASE AND GIVE YOU, UM, THE END OF THE REPORT, THE STAFF PART WAS PRETTY GOOD AND LAYING OUT THE FACTS, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, ULTIMATELY THE DECISION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO DISPLAY AND GOD WE TRUST WITHIN A GOVERNMENTAL BODY IS A POLICY DECISION OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THE, FOR CITY COUNCIL, TYPICALLY THOSE CITIES THAT DO CHOOSE TO PLACE THE PHRASE SOMEWHERE IN THEIR CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S ABOUT 150 CITIES HERE IN CALIFORNIA, ABOUT 20 IN ORANGE COUNTY.
UH, WHEN THEY DO USE THE PHRASE, THEY HAVE LETTERS THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE INCHES IN HEIGHT, UH, THAT ARE CUT FROM METAL HARD PLASTIC OR RAISED FOAM.
SOME AGENCIES PREFER TO PAINT OR EDGE THE PHRASE, UM, IN THE WALL.
TYPICALLY THE LETTERING IS PLACED EITHER BEHIND OR IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL DAYS, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES, AND DEPENDING ON THE UNIQUE LAYOUT OF A CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER, THE PHRASE MAY APPEAR ELSEWHERE, UH, SUCH AS ON A SIDEWALL, UM, ABOVE AN ENTRANCE DOOR OR ON A, IN A VESTIBULE LEADING INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, APPROVE, UH, THE ADDITION OF THE PHRASE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER STAFF BELIEVES THE COST WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF FIVE TO $600 THAT MAY VARY A LITTLE BIT, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS, UM, YOU PREFER TO USE.
UM, WE THINK WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT COST BY USING CITY STAFF TO, UH, PLACE THE LETTERING, UH, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I WOULD NOTE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S HAVE HERE AND AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE MATTER WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL THEN I WOULD ASK FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, IF THERE IS ANYONE THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE, UH, PROVIDE US WITH THEIR NAME AND THEIR ADDRESS.
NONE THAT I WILL ASK FOR COUNSEL DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I HAD, UM, ASKED THAT WE AGENDIZE THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT KNOW I SERVE ON THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION AND, UM, IN THAT, UH, CHAMBER, THEY HAVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT, THE DIOCESE WHERE THE TRUSTEES SAID, UM, THE NATIONAL MOTTO OF IN GOD WE TRUST.
AND, UH, AS I SAT THERE LOOKING AT THAT, I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BRING TO, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER IN LAHABRA.
UM, IT'S, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THE, TO THAT CHAMBER.
AND IT SEEMS A MO EVERY CITY I GO INTO, IT SEEMS THAT, UH, REALLY ANECDOTALLY A LOT OF THEM AROUND YOUR HABIT, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY NICE.
MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOWER THE, UH, CITY LOGO, A FEW INCHES, BUT I THINK RIGHT ABOVE THERE, I'M NOT MARRIED TO THAT IDEA, BUT KIND OF HAVING A BEHIND US.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD LOOK VERY NICE AS PEOPLE, UH, CAME INTO THE CHAMBER.
SO IT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT WE, UM, ADD THE WORDS IN, GOTTA BE TRUST, UH, HERE IN, UM, OUR COUNCIL CHAMBER IS AS, IS OBVIOUSLY OUR NATIONAL MOTTO.
AND, UH, I QUITE AGREE WITH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
UM, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD, I HAVE AN IDEA ACTUALLY OF, UH, FOR IT TO BE PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED ABOVE OUR FLAG.
AS YOU COME INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THERE'S A FLAG THERE FOR THE CITY OF LA HARBOR.
AND IF ANYBODY'S READ THE HISTORY OF THAT FLAG, UH IT'S FOR A FEBRUARY, 1990 SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION, I THINK IT WOULD BE PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED UP ABOVE THAT FLAG.
SO WHEN PEOPLE, WHEN ANYONE THAT ENTERS THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS CAN SEE THE PHRASE, I THINK, UH, I W I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION NOT ONLY TO APPROVE IT,
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BUT TO PUT IT UP THERE ABOVE THAT FLAG MATTER MAYOR, IF I MIGHT.UM, IN KNOWING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE COMING SOMETHING BEFORE US, YOU KNOW, I PONDERED ALL THE POSSIBLE PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH, UH, PLACING SOMETHING, UH, ON THE WALLS WITH GOD AND WHAT IT IS MEANT TO MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES IN TERMS OF CHALLENGES.
UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE, UH, POSSIBLE IS THE FACT THAT WE USE TAXPAYERS MONEY, UH, TO PROVIDE THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, TO PAY FOR IT AND TO, UH, PLACE IT ABOVE THE FLAG.
UH, THAT COUNCILMAN MADRANO JUST TALKED ABOUT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WOULD THE COUNTER PLEASE VOTE MOTION PASSED FIVE, ZERO.
AND FOR YOUR GENEROSITY COUNCIL MEMBER SIMONIAN, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY CALENDAR.
WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE.
THERE'S ONE MORE ITEM, PLEASE.
THE THIRD ITEM IS TO CONSIDER THE FISCAL YEAR 2020, 2021, 2022 WITH CITY OF LA HARBOR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM.
IF WE CAN HAVE A STAFF REPORT, UH, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR ROBERT FARRIER.
AGAIN, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE EACH YEAR, CONGRESS AND THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE CONSIDER THOUSANDS OF BILLS, MANY OF WHICH HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO AFFECT LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS, UM, TO, IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND PROMOTE MUNICIPAL INTERESTS, CITIES OFTEN ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST CERTAIN LEGISLATION TO THAT END, THE CITY COUNCIL ANNUALLY ADOPTS A LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM THAT FACILITATES THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE FEDERAL AND OR STATE LEGISLATION AS THE NEED ARISES.
THE PROPOSED FYI 2122 LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, WHICH WAS ATTACHED THE STAFF REPORT STATES THE CITY OF THE COUNCILS, UH, PROPOSED POSITION ON VARIOUS LEGISLATIVE ISSUES AND SETS A GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW WHEN MONITORING SUCH MATTERS.
UM, BY DEFAULT, THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM IS NOT INTENDED TO BE SPECIFIC, RATHER A BROAD POLICY STATEMENT OF WHAT THE CITY SUPPORTS, FOR EXAMPLE, LOCAL CONTROL AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND OR WHAT THE CITY OF POSES.
FOR EXAMPLE, UNFUNDED STATE MANDATES AS WITH PRIOR ITERATIONS OF THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM, THE DOCUMENT IS DIVIDED INTO SEVEN CATEGORIES, AND THOSE ARE ADMINISTRATION, FINANCE, HUMAN RESOURCES, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM IS A CREATURE OF THE CITY COUNCILS.
THE DIRECTION COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FREE TO OFFER EDITS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, AS THEY DEEM MOST APPROPRIATE STAFF ASKS YOU CONSIDER THE DRAFT, UH, PLATFORM AND PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS TO STAFF.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? SEE, NONE.
I WOULD ASK THE PUBLIC TO TESTIFY IF THEY WOULD, UH, HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES ON THIS ITEM.
I WILL ASK FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR INTERACTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR, 2021, 2022 CITY OF LA HABRA LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AND AUTHORIZED STAFF TO PREPARE LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO LEGISLATIVE BILLS FOR THE MAYOR SIGNATURE AS NEEDED, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM.
ALL RIGHT, WITH THE CONTEMPLATE VOTE MOTION PASSED FIVE ZERO.
[ MAYOR'S COMMUNITY CALENDAR:]
AND THEN I WILL MOVE TO THE MAYOR'S COMMUNITY CALENDAR.THE ORANGE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORANGE TEAR ON THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S BLUEPRINT FOR SAFER ECONOMY, WHICH MEANS THE SPREAD OF COVID 19 IS MODERATE, AND THAT MANY INDOOR BUSINESSES, ACTIVITIES AND OPERATION ARE OPEN FOR MODIFICATIONS.
HOWEVER, THE RATE OF COVID-19 TRANSMISSION CONTINUES TO FALL.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS TARGETING JUNE 15TH FOR FULL REORG OPENING OF THE ECONOMY.
ASSUMING THINGS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.
REMEMBER CIRCUMSTANCES RELATED TO COVID CAN AND DO CHANGE RAPIDLY.
AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REMAIN INFORMED BY VISITING THE CALIFORNIA'S COVID 19 WEBSITE
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AT WWW DOT COVID-19 DOT CA.GOV.AND THEN WE HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE COVID 19 VACCINE IS NOW UNDERWAY WITH SUPER POD SITES OPEN AT THE DISNEYLAND RESORT, THE ANAHEIM CONVENTION CENTER, SOCA UNIVERSITY EFFECTIVE APRIL 15TH, EVERYONE AGES 16 AND OLDER MAY REGISTER FOR THEIR VACCINATION APPOINTMENT TO REGISTER FOR THE VACCINE.
PLEASE VISIT WWW.ATHENA.COM AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE VACCINE, PLEASE VISIT THE ORANGE COUNTY HEALTH AGENCY WEBSITE AT WWW DOT.
LET'S SEE COVID 19 DOT OCC HEALTH INFO.COM.
AND THE CLINIC THREE 60 IS HOSTING A FREE COVID 19 TESTING EVENTS AT THE LA HARBOR COMMUNITY CENTER ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS BETWEEN 9:00 AM AND 3:00 PM.
REGISTRATIONS CAN BE MADE BY VISITING THE WWW.STREETTHREESIXTYCLINIC.MD WALK-UPS ARE ALSO WELCOMED.
PLEASE BRING YOUR VALID PHOTO ID AND TEST RESULTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR BY TEXT EMAIL WITHIN 48 HOURS IN THE CITY OF LA HARBOR AND ST.
JUDE CENTER ARE HOSTING A COVID 19 VACCINE VACCINATION CLINIC EVERY FRIDAY ON AN APPOINTMENT BASIS, THE CLINIC WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE LA HARBOR COMMUNITY CENTER TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT OR AIR, OR FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ELIGIBILITY, PLEASE VISIT WW W.MY TURN.CA.GOV.
AND FOR FURTHER ASSISTANCE, PLEASE CALL THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT (562) 383-4200.
PLEASE REMEMBER TO WEAR A MASK, EVEN IF YOU'VE RECEIVED THE VACCINE TO HELP REDUCE THE RISK OF SPREADING THE DISEASE OR VARIANTS TO OTHERS.
THE SIMPLE ACT OF WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC, THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO TO SLOW THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE.
IF EVERYONE WOULD WEAR A MASK, WE ARE ALL BETTER PROTECTED FROM COVID-19 DO YOUR PART AND HELP SLOW THE SPREAD AND THE HARVEST CITY.
AND THE AMERICAN RED CROSS WILL HOST A BLOOD DRIVE AT THE HARBOR VETERANS HALL ON THURSDAY, APRIL THE 29TH, BETWEEN ONE AND 7:00 PM.
VETERANS HALL IS LOCATED AT TWO OH NINE NORTH ORANGE STREET, AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN GO TO THE OLD SETTLERS TO VISIT THE MUSEUM THERE.
AND WHILE IT WON'T BE OPEN THAT DAY, BUT A RESERVATION IS REQUIRED.
AND ANYONE WHO WISHES TO DONATE BLOOD MUST SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT BY VISITING THE WWW.REDCROSSBLOOD.ORG, OR BY CALLING ONE 800 RED CROSS AND DUE TO THE COVID-19 SAFETY PROTOCOLS, ALL DONORS AND STAFF WILL BE SCREENED PRIOR TO ENTERING THE BUILDING TO LEARN MORE, PLEASE CALL (562) 383-4200.
NOW, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF, NO MATTER MAYOR,
[ COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS:]
ANY COMMENT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? UM, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN TONIGHT IN MEMORY OF A WILLIAM I'M SORRY, WILLIE JAMES CHAMBERS.UH, MY CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO HIS WIFE.
UH, CATHERINE, HE'S VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, INVOLVED IN, UH, LOCAL MINISTRIES, A LOT OF OUR LOCAL CHURCHES, AND, UH, HE DIED VERY TRAGICALLY LAST WEEK AND, UH, KNOWN HIM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I USED TO GO TO OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENTS AND JUST A FANTASTIC INDIVIDUAL.
UH, HIS SON AND MY SON HAD PLAYED FOOTBALL TOGETHER AT LA HARBOR HIGH SCHOOL.
AND, UH, IT WAS VERY SAD TO HEAR THAT HE PASSED AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY.
UH, WILLIE, JAMES CHAMBERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? YES, WE HAD A MAYOR.
I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THANK OUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY THAT HELPED OUT ON TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING.
I KNOW THE MAYOR AND I HAD PARTICIPATED IN THE, UH, LAHABRA HIGH SCHOOL'S TOP 100, UH, LAST WEEK GREAT EVENT.
IT WAS A NICE TO BE IN THEIR AUDITORIUM AND A NICE TO SEE THESE KIDS, UH, GET, UH, GET THESE DESERVING AWARDS, UH, FOR EACH BEAN, UH, OR FOR THEIR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENTS.
ALSO, I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UM, ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF, UH, KRISTIN COLEMAN, UH, WHO, UH, PASSED AWAY ON APRIL 3RD.
UH, KRISTIN IS A WELL, WAS A WIFE TO A FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE OF MINE AT WORK.
UH, SERGEANT BRIAN COLEMAN, UH, WHO, UH, WORKS FOR THE LA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AS A DA INVESTIGATOR.
HE'S A SERGEANT THEN RECENTLY LOST HIS WIFE TO A, A LONG BATTLE WITH CANCER.
SHE SURVIVED BY, UH, BY HER TWO DAUGHTERS AND OF COURSE, BRIAN, AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES OFFICIALLY.
AND WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM MADRONA DIDN'T WAS THAT TWO OF HIS DAUGHTERS WERE PART OF THE TOP 100 SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS AND, UH, UH, ONE IS A, UH, SOPHOMORE
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ONE IS A SOPHOMORE ONE IS A SENIOR.YES, THEY TAKE AFTER THEIR MOTHER, JUST SO YOU KNOW, VERY PROUD MOMENT FOR, FOR THEM.
AND, UH, I WILL ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF WILLIE J. CHAMBERS, KRISTIN COLEMAN.
AND DO I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EDDIE EVANS? OH, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
EDDIE EVANS, EDWARD EVANS PASSED AWAY AS WELL.
UM, MANY OF YOU WOULD KNOW HIM AND HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE WOULD MAKE WHAT COTTON CANDY WITH IT, OR COTTON CANDY FOR HALLOWEEN.
AND THERE WAS LINES OF PEOPLE THERE 60 YEARS.
IMAGINE THAT 60 YEARS HANDING OUT COTTON CANDY.
YEAH, HE WAS, UH, A GREAT COMMUNITY PERSON, UH, WHO WOULD GIVE AS MUCH OF HIS TIME AS HE COULD.
I KNOW HE WORKED AT CITY HALL AT SOME TIME AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UM, LDC AND LOCAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL.
YES, HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HE WAS INVOLVED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES.
THAT'S WHERE I HAD THE HONOR TO MEET HIM AND HE, UH, MENTORED ME AND HE WAS A GREAT, GREAT MAN AND HIS WIFE AS WELL, BUT, UH, WILL, AND HIS WIFE CAME UP WITH OUR MOTTO, CARING COMMUNITY, PAT, FIGURE THAT OUT, SEE CITY HALL.
HE WORKED AT CITY HALL FOR A WHILE AS WELL, OR WITH LEAD RISER.
IT'S A LEGACY THAT HE LEAVES BEHIND AND, UM, WE WILL CERTAINLY MISS HIM.
UM, AND SO I WILL ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF ALL THOSE THREE.
UM, AND THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, MAY 3RD, 2021 AT 5:30 PM AT THE CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION ROOM ONE, ONE, TWO C 100 EAST LA HARBOR BOULEVARD FOLLOWED BY THE REGULAR MEETING AT 6:30 PM AND THE LA HARBOR COUNCIL CHAMBERS.