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AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING

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WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.

WILL

[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, JULY 26, 2021 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]

THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER ROJAS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IT'S YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I ALMOST GAVE YOU A DIFFERENT LAST NAME RIGHT NOW.

I WAS LIKE, WAIT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

OR THE SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER ROJAS HERE, COMMISSIONER ZARIAN HERE.

CHAIRMAN LEE, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER BERNIER AND VICE-CHAIR MUNOZ HAVE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THIS EVENING.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING THE AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME.

AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL.

IN NATURE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5, 4 0.3.

SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AGAIN FOR AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SEEING THAT WE'LL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO, TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.

SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEFED ON REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME AS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM COMMISSIONER ZARIAN NO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

OH MY GOSH.

ALL NIGHT ROJAS AND I DO NOT.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED, SEEING NONE AT THIS TIME? DO WE HAVE A MOTION CALENDAR? SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER AND EXONEREE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROJAS.

UM, EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE AT THIS TIME.

MOTION PASSED THREE ZERO.

THANK YOU.

PERFECT.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.

THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.

THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST.

AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS THAT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTERN.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.

THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL.

IN NATURE.

WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, WHICH IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO REVIEW THE 2021 TO 2029 DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT SIX CYCLE WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO FORWARD THE DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.

DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? WE DID NOT.

DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO AS, AS YOU'RE AWARE OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, AS ONE OF THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND IS THE ONLY ELEMENT THAT THE STATE REQUIRES TO BE UPDATED ON A REGULAR CYCLE ON THE CURRENT CYCLES, IS THAT FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEAR PERIOD PERIOD FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, THE CITY COUNCIL RECONSTITUTED THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS INCLUDED MEMBERS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL PLANNING, COMMISSION, COMMUNITY SERVICES, COMMISSION CHAMBER OF

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COMMERCE AND CITIZENS AT LARGE, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, THE G PAT MET FIVE TIMES TO DISCUSS HOUSING ELEMENT BASICS, COMMUNITY NEEDS, HOUSING SITES, HOUSING GOALS, AND POLICIES AND PROGRAMS. UM, BECAUSE OF COVID, THESE MEETINGS WERE ALL HELD VIA ZOOM.

DURING THE ZOOM MEETINGS, WE HAD, UM, PARTICIPATION FROM 14 TO 15 ADDITIONAL, UH, COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS WHO WOULD, WHO CALLED EITHER SENT US CORRESPONDENCE OR LOGGED INTO THE ZOOM MEETING.

UM, THESE INCLUDED DEVELOPERS, HOUSING AGENCIES, ADVOCACY GROUPS, AND LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, ALL THESE GROUPS PLAYED AN ACTIVE ROLE IN, IN DEFINING THE PRIORITIES FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

UH, I WOULD NOW TURN THIS OVER TO MR. TESHA FROM PLACE WORKS, WHO WILL GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND HIT, UM, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU IN PERSON.

I MEAN, 11, LET ME START WITH THE BIG NEWS FOR THE EVENING IN ALL OF THIS.

AFTER THOSE MONTHS OF, UH, WORKING ON ZOOM AND SEEING THESE FACES LIKE ARE THOSE REAL PEOPLE KIND OF SITUATION AS WELL? SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU HERE TONIGHT TO BRING FORWARD THE DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT FOR YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR REVIEW.

UM, LET ME JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF CHARACTER.

THIS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, FOR SORT OF AN OVERVIEW IN THE SENSE OF FAMILIAR WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.

THIS IS, AS ROY MENTIONED, IT IS THE ONE DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE SCRUTINY OF THIS STATE FOR CONFORMANCE WITH ITS LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTENT AS WELL.

AND UNLIKE THE OTHER GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS LIKE LAND USE OR CIRCULATION OR, OR OPEN SPACE, ET CETERA, UH, THE REAL, WHAT I WOULD CALL THE GUTS OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, THOSE GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS ARE THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND PROGRAMS. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN THIS DOCUMENT, ET CETERA.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE CONTENT AND YOU WILL FIND, AND I'M GOING TO REVIEW WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND TECHNICAL MATERIAL.

THE STATE ALSO REVIEWS THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH, THE ANALYSIS, THE DETAILED ANALYSIS, FOR EXAMPLE, OF NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PROJECTED AFFORDABILITY LEVELS.

UH, THE STATE ALSO WILL REVIEW AND COMMENT UPON THOSE AND WE'LL ACTUALLY, UH, CRITICIZE, UH, THE DOCUMENT POSSIBLY IF THEY FEEL THAT THE ANALYSIS IS NOT FULLY FLESHED OUT, SIMILARLY ON OPPORTUNITY SITES, THIS HOUSING ELEMENT, UNLIKE ALL PRIOR HOUSING ELEMENTS IN THE LAST FIVE CYCLES OF HOUSING ELEMENTS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS TO DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE AND PRODUCE HOUSING ON THE SITES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

YOU CAN'T SIMPLY AS IN THE PAST, IDENTIFY A SITE THAT MAY BE FOR EXAMPLE, ZONED MULTI-FAMILY AND YOUR GENERAL PLAN OR YOUR ZONING AND RENTS.

BUT IN THIS CYCLE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME DEGREE OF EVIDENCE THAT IT'S DOABLE, ET CETERA.

THIS IS I THINK, UH, ALL OF US HAVE READ ABOUT AND KNOW ABOUT, UH, THE ISSUES IN THE STATE REGARDING HOUSING PRODUCTION AND THE NEEDS FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION.

SO THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT I SUSPECT WILL UNDERGO CONSIDERABLE SCRUTINY AT THE STATE.

THOSE WE'VE ALREADY PASSED UP TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW ARE UNDERGOING CONSIDERABLE SCRUTINY.

UM, AND IN SOME CASES WE DON'T DOUBT THAT IT MIGHT NOT COME BACK FOR REVIEW FOR SOME REFINEMENT BEFORE IT'S THE FINAL DOCUMENT ITSELF.

SO LET ME GO THROUGH, UM, LEARNING HOW TO DO, DO THIS AGAIN.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE BASICS OF, AGAIN, SOME OF THE BASICS ABOUT THAT AS, AS, UH, INDICATED, THIS IS A REQUIRED ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UNLIKE THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH TYPICALLY HAS A 10 TO 15 YEAR UPDATE CYCLE, UH, THIS ELEMENT IS UPDATED ON AN EVERY EIGHT YEAR PROCESS.

UM, IT IS THE CITY'S PLAN FOR AS INDICATED HERE ON THE SLIDE FOR ADDRESSING YOUR HOUSING NEEDS, BUT AS ALSO RELATED TO SPECIFIC TARGETS FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION THAT ARE COME DOWN INITIALLY FROM THE STATE AND STATE HOUSING NEED OF X NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS, THOSE ARE THEN TRANSFERRED DOWN TO THE REGIONAL AGENCY IN THIS CASE GUY.

AND WE SHOULD THEN DISTRIBUTE A NUMBER OF TARGET TO EACH COMMUNITY, ET CETERA, IN THAT ALLOCATION.

AND I'LL MENTION THE HARBOR'S NUMBER TO A FEW MINUTES.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT IT IS YOU NEED TO DEMONSTRATE CAPACITY AND PROGRAMS TO ACHIEVE THAT HOUSING NUMBER.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE CITY TO BUILD THOSE UNITS, BUT IT BASICALLY FOR YOU, THE CITY OF LA HARBOR TO SET IN PLACE THE RULES OR REGULATIONS, THE INCENTIVES, WHATEVER IS GOING TO MAKE THAT HOUSING, UH, ELEMENT WORK.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, VERY IMPORTANTLY, AS, AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS IS THE ONLY ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT MUST BE CERTIFIED, UH, BY THE STATE FOR APPROVAL.

UM, SO AS STATED HERE, JUMPED AHEAD ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS HERE.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PRODUCING

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OR BUILDING THE HOUSING, BUT CREATE THE CAPACITY TO DO SO.

UM, IT PROPOSES ITS CONTENT AS TO LOOK AT WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE IN TERMS OF VARIOUS INCOME LEVELS AND VARIOUS TYPES OF HOUSING UNITS AND INDEED PROPOSALS, CONTENT GOALS, AND POLICIES TO ACHIEVE THOSE HOUSING NEEDS ITSELF IN AND OF ITSELF.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE.

ZONING BASICALLY OPERATES WITHIN YOUR EXISTING ZONING AND YOUR GENERAL PLAN DEFINITIONS UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED IN THE PLAN, WHICH COULD BE ANY REZONING AS REQUIRED, WHICH IN THIS CASE MAY NOT BE THE CASE THAT IS AN AFTER ADOPTION PROCESS, ET CETERA.

SO AS IT GOES TO THE STATE OF DUSTIN, ET CETERA, REQUIRE ANY CHANGES OF EXISTING ORDINANCES, ET CETERA.

AND ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY, IT DOES NOT PRE-APPROVE SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR AUTHORIZED CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE CITY, ET CETERA.

SO THERE HAVE BEEN, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THERE ARE DOZENS OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED SINCE THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENTS, ET CETERA.

THERE, THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC CHANGES IN THIS LEGISLATION.

THE FIRST ONE I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC SITES, UH, ET CETERA.

AND WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE FEASIBILITY.

ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY, UH, SB THREE 30, UH, WHICH WAS PASSED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AS DEVELOPMENT THE APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE THE CITY, THAT WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, YOU MAY NO LONGER REDUCE CAPACITY ON THE BASIS OF NUMBER OF UNITS OF ON THAT SITE WITHOUT MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU REDUCE ON ONE SITE BY ANOTHER ACHIEVING THAT NUMBER OF UNITS ON ANOTHER SITE.

SO IT BASICALLY HAS A CUMULATIVE NUMBER THAT BASICALLY SAYS YOU CAN MOVE THEM AROUND, BUT THE OVERALL CAPACITY FOR THE HOUSING CANNOT BE REDUCED UNDER THE SB THREE 30 LEGISLATION AS WELL.

ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THIS PARTICULAR ELEMENT IS WE ARE REQUIRED TO BASICALLY ADDRESS FAIR HOUSING OR WHAT WE CALL EQUITABLE HOUSING DISTRIBUTION FOR EVERY, WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND THERE'S A CHAPTER ON THIS PLAN ON THAT, WHICH IS NEW AGAIN TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

AND THEN THERE ARE, AS WE'VE SEEN AND PENDING AND SORT OF EVERY WEEK IN SACRAMENTO, WE'LL LEARNING THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER PENALTIES OR REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY BE IMPOSED AS WE MOVE AND MOVE FORWARD, ET CETERA.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS ELEMENT, AGAIN, THIS AGAIN IS A SIX CYCLE, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE A FIFTH CYCLE ELEMENT OUT THERE AS WELL.

WE HAVE BEEN WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES OF THIS PARTICULAR ASSIGNMENT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS IS TO CONSIDER THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, ENACTED, UH, SINCE THE LAST GO AROUND AND TO WALK THROUGH, NOT TO BASICALLY START FROM ZERO, BUT TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE TODAY, ASK OURSELVES WHAT IS WORKING TODAY, WHAT CAN CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE FUTURE AND TO AMEND THOSE GOALS, POLICIES, AND CONTENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO REFLECT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE CONSISTENT WITH LAW IS, IS WELL IN THE, YOU KNOW, HENCE THE SECOND POINT THERE, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY WITH WHERE YOU'VE BEEN, NOT TO CHANGE DRAMATICALLY THE ROAD IN WHICH YOU'VE BEEN MOVING INTO THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A KEY OBJECTIVES AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

AND ROY HAS MENTIONED THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THIS PROCESS IS THAT IT'S A REFLECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S A REFLECTION OF LAHABRA, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THESE STATE REQUIREMENTS, THE D THE CONTENT IS TO REFLECT YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR OBJECTIVES, ET CETERA, AS WELL.

ROY MENTIONED THE OUTREACH PLAN.

I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE, UH, UPON THE LIST, UH, THE NUMBERS OF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE STATIONS TO VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS TO JOIN US.

UH, ALL OF THE INPUT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, COMMENTS RECORDED, ET CETERA.

UH, WE HAD A WEBSITE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED FOR THE, FOR THE LAND USE 97 1 HOUSING ELEMENT FOR INPUT AS WELL.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT POINT THROUGH VARIOUS ENTITIES, ET CETERA.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CONTENT, I ACTUALLY PRINTED OUT THIS HANDY-DANDY AND CO COVER WERE RETAINED FROM THE GENERAL PLAN DAYS, ET CETERA, FOR THE VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THIS GENERAL PLAN.

AS I SAID, UNLIKE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE'S REVIEW, UH, BEYOND OF COURSE, THE INTRODUCTION AND DESCRIPTION OF THE OUTREACH PROCESS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS UNIQUE IN THE STATE DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR HOUSING ELEMENTS THAT WE DO DESCRIBE IN DETAIL WHAT THAT OUTREACH PROCESS WAS.

SO THIS DOCUMENT HAS THAT DESCRIPTION, WHICH AGAIN, IS A CHANGE FROM OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

UH, VERY IMPORTANTLY IS THE SECOND BULLET DOWN HERE AND WILL IS THE QUANTIFICATION OF THE NEEDS FOR HOUSING, FOR EXISTING AND PROJECTED REC, UH, RESIDENTS AT EACH INCOME LEVEL.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE INCOME LEVELS IN A MOMENT REGARDING ITS AFFORDABILITY.

UH, THERE'S ALSO AN ANALYSIS OF THE, TO PRODUCE HOUSING TODAY.

WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS ON HOUSING? AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS THAT I'VE MENTIONED HERE IS THE INVENTORY OF THE SITES IN WHICH WE CAN PRODUCE

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HOUSING IN THE FUTURE AND WILL, AND THEN THERE IS A CHAPTER OF THIS WHICH EVALUATES YOUR EXISTING HOUSING.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS UNIQUE FOR HOUSING ELEMENTS, WHERE WE ARE ASKED BY THE STATE TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WAS PRODUCED AND PREPARED AND ASK OURSELVES HOW EFFECTIVE IT WAS, OR WHAT WERE THE PROBLEMS OF MAKING THAT HOUSING ELEMENT WORK IS EVALUATION.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE LAST MAJOR SECTION OF THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMS. SO LET'S TALK, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE, WE COULD SPEND HOURS ON ALL THE BACKGROUND DATA, AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED OR WATCH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE READINGS HAVE SEEN SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT LET ME JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BASIC DATAS, UM, THIS CHART DEPICTS THE POPULATION GROWTH LAHABRA, UH, OVER THE PAST 30 OR SO YEARS.

UH, BASICALLY YOU HAD BEEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREND OF THE DIAGRAM, IT'S BEEN A FAIRLY STABLE, IF YOU WILL, UH, GREAT BUILDING OUT, UH, NO REAL SIGNIFICANT SURGES UP OR DOWN OR OVER TIME.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT POPULATION GROWTH OVERALL.

UM, SINCE 22 YEAR, 2000, THERE'S BEEN SLIGHT SCALING BACK IN TERMS OF THAT GROWTH.

ONE OF THE KEY REASONS IS YOU ARE AND PRETTY WELL HAVE EXHAUSTED THOSE VACANT LANDS THAT WERE THE EASY LANDS, THE LOW HANGING FRUIT ON WHICH YOU CAN DEVELOP HOUSING, ET CETERA.

SO AS WE THINK FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY THE ABILITY TO CO UH, COMBINATE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE LARGELY AS INFILL WITHIN OUR EXISTING AREAS AND AREAS THAT MAY HAVE SOME SMALLER OR UTILIZE PARCELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ET CETERA.

AND SO THE ASSUMPTION IS THROUGH THE 2030 AND THE TIMEFRAME OF THIS GENERAL PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE FAIRLY MODEST IN TERMS OF THE GROWTH, WITHOUT SOME OF THE LEVELS OF GROWTH THAT WE HAD, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME.

UM, ALTHOUGH THE POPULATION IS LIMITING IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, THE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS WE SEE FOR THE FUTURE, THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT CHANGES ABOUT THE POPULATION WE'RE GETTING OLDER.

THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING OLDER ITSELF.

UH, THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUTH AND CHILDREN IN THIS COMMUNITY DECLINED BY ABOUT 11%, UH, IN NUMBERS.

WELL, THE ADULTS 55 AND OLDER INCREASED BY ABOUT 25%.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A CHARACTERISTICS OF, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, AT LARGE, THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, BUT PARTICULARLY INTO AREAS AND OLDER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THIS, UM, OUR ETHNICITY, RACE AND ETHNICITY.

WE'RE ABOUT 60% HISPANIC NOW.

AND THOUGH WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, WELL, THAT IS THE BULK OF THE POPULATION.

THERE'S BEEN A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ASIAN POPULATION, UH, UPWARDS OF A, TO ABOUT 28% NOW.

AND THAT IS WITH THE MOST SIGNIFICANT, UH, UH, INCREASE IN THE LAST, UH, PERIOD OF TIME, UM, CORRESPONDING TO THE AGING OF THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN DECLINED BY ABOUT 10%, UH, ET CETERA, AND SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLDS ALSO DECLINED BY ABOUT 12% DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

UM, AND THEN I THINK ALSO A CORRELATION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE, IF WE'RE MOVING TO AGING POPULATION, OBVIOUSLY OUR HOUSING UNITS, OUR HOUSEHOLD SIZES THEMSELVES ARE GETTING SMALLER AS WE MOVE INTO THAT DIRECTION AS WELL.

EVERYBODY, I THINK PROBABLY IS WELL AWARE OF ONE OF THE KEY CONCERNS ABOUT HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY IS OUR COST OF HOUSING, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, THE TABLE HERE INDICATES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, IF YOU WILL, THE, UM, THE KIND OF GAP BETWEEN INCOME LEVELS AND LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SEE ON OWNERSHIP UNITS THAT YOU WILL SEE, WELL, THE AVERAGE, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE CITY IS A LITTLE LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT $95,000.

YOU SEE THAT THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD PRICE IS $635,000.

AND IF WE USE THE AFFORDABILITY FACTORS, THEY, WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE ABOUT A $360,000 PRICE TAG IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY FOR THAT INCOME LEVEL.

SO YOU SEE THERE'S A MISMATCH BETWEEN THE INCOMES AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE A HOUSING IN THE CITY AS WELL.

UM, A LOT OF THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE, PEOPLE HAVE OWNED THEIR HOUSING FOR A LONG TIME WHILE THEIR HOUSING VALUES HAVE INCREASED.

SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT PAYING THOSE RATES, BUT IN TERMS OF THEN AFFORDABILITY FOR THE FUTURE, ET CETERA.

AND WE HAVE A SIMILAR DYNAMIC ON THE RENTAL SIDE ARE OUR TYPICAL RENTAL ARE MEETING RENTAL INCOME FOR A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR IS A LITTLE OVER 58,000.

IT WAS $59,000.

UH, THE MEDIAN TWO BEDROOM UNIT IS OVER $2,000 IN THE CITY TODAY, UH, OF LAHABRA.

AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INCOME, UM, AND GO THROUGH THE MATH ON WHAT IS CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE FOR A UNIT, UH, THAT, THAT HOUSING PRICE, THAT RENTAL PRICE SHOULD BE BELOW $1,500.

SO WE'RE, AGAIN, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OVERPAYING IN TERMS

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OF ET CETERA.

SO ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN IS REALLY THE SUMMATION OF WHAT I'VE JUST SAID.

A 41% OF OWNERS AND 51% OF RENTERS ARE OVERPAYING FOR HOUSING, WHICH GENERALLY, TYPICALLY WE THINK ABOUT A THIRD OF THE INCOME ABOUT 30% OF YOUR INCOME GOES FOR HOUSING PAYMENTS AS WELL.

ALSO IN PARTLY WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS AN OVERCROWDING SITUATION.

OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE INDEED A HIGH COST OF HOUSING IN BOTH RENTALS AND IN SINGLE FAMILY, YOU MAY HAVE LARGER FAMILIES, MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES MOVING INTO THE SAME, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNIT IT'S EXACERBATED AND RANDALLS.

AND SO YOU SEE THE DATA HERE THAT, UH, FROM ANALYSIS OF OVERCROWDING, WE HAVE ABOUT 6% OF THE OWNER OF UNITS ARE OVERCROWDED, BUT ALMOST A QUARTER OF THE RENTALS ARE, ARE CONSIDERED TO BE OVERCROWDED TODAY.

AND THEN ON THIS SCREEN, WHICH I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS DATA, BUT HOUSING LAW REQUIRES US TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL SPECIAL NEEDS, HOUSING, SO NEEDS FOR SENIORS OR DISABLED POPULATIONS, ET CETERA, UH, HOMELESS PEOPLE, OBVIOUSLY, AS A PART OF THIS ANALYSIS, YOU WILL SEE HERE AS WELL.

SO BRIEFLY TO GO BACK TO, UH, OUR TARGETS, UH, THAT ARE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO LOOK FOR.

UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE STATES, THAT'S A NUMBER I THINK THIS LAST GO ROUND WAS AROUND 3 MILLION HOUSING UNITS, UH, UH, THAT ARE ALLOCATED BY, UH, HCD STATEWIDE TO EACH REGIONAL GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY OR CUMULATIVELY.

THE REGIONAL AGENCY, I BELIEVE SCAG WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1.2 OR 1.6 MILLION OF THOSE HOUSING UNITS, I THINK IS ABOUT 1.6 MILLION.

AND THEN SCAG THEN ALLOCATED A NUMBER TO EACH OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES WITHIN THE SCAG REGION.

YOUR NUMBER AT THE TARGET, AS YOU WILL SEE HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED, WHICH WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR IT'S ABOUT AN INCREASE OF 804 UNITS.

AND REMEMBER, THIS IS 804 OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS IN TERMS OF CREATING THAT CAPACITY AS WELL.

FOR COMPARISON, THIS IS A RELATIVELY MODEST NUMBER COMPARED TO SOME OF YOUR OTHER CITIES.

BRIA HAS AN ALLOCATION JUST FOR REFERENCE OF 23, 25, 2,325.

SO NOT FAR AWAY FROM YOU IN TERMS OF THIS CITY, WHITTIER ON THE OTHER SIDE HAS A ALLOCATION OF 34 39 AND LA MAROTTA, 1,962.

SO, UM, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES WHO HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING THESE NUMBERS, ET CETERA, BUT DID THAT, DID IT HOLD UP WITH SCAG WHEN THOSE CHALLENGES OCCURRED? AND, UH, I'M WORKING ALSO IN A HOUSING ELEMENT FOR SOUTH PASADENA RIGHT NOW WHERE THE NUMBER IS ALMOST THE SAME AS THIS.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, SOUTH PASADENA IT'S A FULLY BUILT, HAS LESS DEVELOPABLE LAND THAN YOU DO.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE RATHER SUBSTANTIAL, UH, UH, FOR THE NUMBERS ARE ALLOCATED AND THEMSELVES.

SO THIS, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS ACHIEVE, UH, ANTICIPATED THAT THESE UNITS WILL BE BUILT WITHIN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.

UM, AGAIN, WHERE PARCELS, UH, IN SITES WHERE WE IDENTIFY THOSE WHERE HOUSING CAN BE BUILT, THAT WILL BE CREDITED CREDITED TO THE ARENA NUMBER, UH, AND TO GET THE STATE IN, IN THEIR NEW REQUIREMENTS.

THEY INDICATED THAT THE SITES MUST BE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES.

AND THE STATE REQUIRES THE CITY CONSIDER HOW THE SITE SELECTION OF ADVANCES OBJECTIVES FOR AFFIRMATIVELY, UH, AFFIRMATIVELY OBJECTIVES FOR FAIR HOUSING AS, AS, AS WELL.

SO WE, WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THESE UNITS AND COMEDY, THESE UNITS WITHIN PLAN FOR, I FIND THE COMMUNITY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GROUNDING FACTORS THAT A GUIDANCE, AS I SAID, THIS IS LAHABRA.

HIS DOCUMENT IS NOT THE STATE'S DOCUMENT, ULTIMATELY AS WELL.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THIS HOUSING ELEMENT, IN THE WAY, AND THE STRATEGIES TO PROVIDE HOUSING ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WORK THAT WE DID HERE EXTENSIVELY ON THE GENERAL PLAN A FEW YEARS AGO, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CONTENT OF THAT PLAN, THE VISIONS, THE GOALS, POLICIES OF THAT PLAN, UH, AND THE PLANNING, ET CETERA.

WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AS A PART OF THE LOCAL CONSIDERATION SITES WHERE THE MARKET DEMAND IS PRESENT AGAIN, NOT JUST THEORETICAL SITES, ET CETERA, THAT MAY BE ZONED, BUT THERE THERE'S NO REALITY OF ACHIEVING THE UNITS.

AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE SITES OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, ONE OF THE KEY OUTCOMES OF THAT GENERAL PLAN PROCESS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WAS LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN TO INTRODUCE HOUSING AND WHAT WERE OLDER COMMERCIAL AREAS, OR EVEN BACK FIVE, SEVEN YEARS AGO.

AND THE GENERAL PLAN WAS A TIME IN WHICH WE WERE BEGINNING TO SEE SHIFTS IN THE RETAILING.

AND WE'RE FINDING THAT RETAIL WAS CHANGING TO ONLINE BUSINESSES AND REMOVING INTO ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE BRICKS AND MORTAR, IF YOU WILL ESTABLISHMENT, ET CETERA, AND THAT SPACE IN, IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WE NEEDED FOR THAT ARE DIMINISHING OVER TIME.

UH, THAT'S BEEN EXACERBATED BY COVID.

UH, BUT

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WE STILL SEE THAT THAT TREND POST COVID WILL CONTINUE.

UH, THE ON-TIME RE RETAILING WILL INDEED HAVE AN EFFECT UPON THE LANDS THAT WE SAID IF I HAD FOR COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL.

SO THE THIRD BULLET IS LOOKING AT WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE ADDITIONAL AREAS IN NEED A RE-INVESTMENT THAT MAY NO LONGER BE SUITABLE FOR, UH, THE COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THE CONSIDERATION IS WHEN WE DEVELOP THIS PLAN IS LOOKING AT THE FULL RANGE OF COMMUNITY LEADS AND AGAIN, FOR FAIR HOUSING.

SO WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES THIS PLAN DIRECTS FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THOSE NUMBERS? WELL, ONE, UH, IS TO, UH, DEDE INCORPORATE AND CREDIT WITHIN THESE NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS OF ACCESSORY DWELLING, AND IT'S EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND.

I THINK THE TERM ACCESSORY DWELLING IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LEGISLATION ON THIS THE LAST FEW YEARS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND EVERY TIME A COMMUNITY UPDATES THEIR CODE, ADDRESSING THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR ADA USE, YOU'LL GET A NEW CHANGE FROM SACRAMENTO AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE, IT'S GOT TO GO BACK TO WORK WITH THE STAFF AND UPDATING AGAIN, ET CETERA, BECAUSE IT'S A MOVING TARGET.

BUT AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S ABOUT SAY A SECOND OR A THIRD UNIT ON A LOT, UH, ET CETERA.

THERE'S SOME PRESSURE THOSE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AGAIN, THE WORK IN SACRAMENTO TO ACTUALLY ALLOW A FOURTH.

THERE'S A BILL CALLED SB NINE.

I WON'T GET INTO THE DETAIL ON THAT RIGHT NOW, WHICH ALLOWS ALL SINGLE FAMILY AREAS TO HAVE BE LOTS SPLIT IN HALF AND ET CETERA.

BUT THE KEY POINT IS THIS IS ACTUALLY BEGINNING TO, UH, OCCUR.

WE WE'VE HAD, UH, IN 2020, WE HAD 43, UH, ADS APPROVED AND WITHIN THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE, UH, AND THIS PLAN AND THIS HOUSING ELEMENTS TAKING A MODEST APPROACH FOR ADDITIONAL ADS, WE'RE FINDING ANOTHER COMMUNITIES THAT IT'S ACTUALLY RAMPING UP FASTER THAN THIS PACE.

WE'RE FINDING A LA HABRA.

UH, SO WE TOOK A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FROM THE 43 THAT YOU HAD IN 2022 AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ABOUT 50 ADDITIONAL UNITS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

I WOULD SUSPECT GIVEN EXPERIENCE IN OTHER CITIES, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT, REGARDLESS OF LEGISLATION, THAT MAY BE, UH, UH, A VERY MODEST PROJECTION OF REALITY AND WHAT IS GOING ON NOW AS, AS WELL IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

SO ONE WAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT 800 NUMBER THAT, UH, WAS, UH, WAS IDENTIFIED BY, UH, SKYPE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR A PORTION OF IT WILL BE OFFSET BY OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

UM, JUST AN UPDATE TODAY.

SACRAMENTO IS BEGINNING TO LOOK AT SKEPTICAL FOR ALL THE ADU PROJECTIONS.

SOME CITIES ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF FAIRLY HIGH, FAIRLY HIGH NUMBERS.

SO I THINK WE'RE FAIRLY SAFE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE PROJECTED HERE AS WELL.

UM, THE SECOND IS AGAIN, WHAT'S THE ACTUAL HOUSING PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE ON, ON, ON THE LINE.

UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON YOUR TABLE NOW, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BE BUILT AFTER JULY 1ST, 2021, A NUMBER OF, UH, UH, PROVED PROJECTS.

YOU SEE THE LIST HERE, UH, ONE APARTMENT, TWO CONDO PROJECT, SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO THREE PENDING PROJECTS.

SO AGAIN, THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE COVID ERA, IT HAS NOT STOPPED THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN SOME COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY HAS EXACERBATED IT.

AND WE'LL SEE IT.

WE GO WITH TIDES AND FLOWS THROUGH HOUSING PRODUCTION.

SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ACHIEVE THE NUMBERS IS FOR NEW HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN LAHABRA IN THE FUTURE, IN THE NORMAL MARKET PLACE CYCLE.

THE THIRD STRATEGY IS THE IDENTIFICATION OF ADDITIONAL SITES BEYOND WHERE THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN TARGETED TODAY.

WELL, WE KNOW WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE, THE SE, UH, ET CETERA.

UM, BACK IN 2014, UH, THERE WERE AGAIN, SIGNIFICANT REDESIGNATION OF PROPERTIES FOR, UM, HOUSING, UH, THAT ALLOW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING.

UH, THE DENSITY LIMIT WAS INCREASED IN THE GENERAL PLAN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 50 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND IT HAD BEEN, I BELIEVE, 30 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT PREVIOUSLY, UH, UP TO THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO THROUGH EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, UH, AND EVALUATED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, PRIMARILY THOSE INCREASES WERE IN THE CORRIDORS AND ON SELECTED OR TARGETED SITES.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REUSE OF SOME OF THESE OLDER UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY.

I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH STAYED OFF OF THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS WITH THE INTENTION TO MAINTAIN A GOOD, HEALTHY JOB SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE FUTURE IS AS WELL.

ANOTHER POINT IS, YOU KNOW, SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE SITES AS A PART OF THIS HOUSING ELEMENTS, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO BEEN THINKING AND LOOKING AT WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSING INTEREST IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING IN THE CITY TO IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL SITES THEMSELVES.

UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY

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THOSE SITES IN WHICH WE COULD ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE A MIX OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.

AND IT'S MAYBE A MIX OF SMALL UNITS, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES QUADPLEXES ALONG WITH MAYBE SOME HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, TOWNHOMES AND OTHERS THAT COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, NOT VERY EACH LEVEL OF THE INCOME LEVELS OF VERY LOW, LOW, MODERATE, AND HIGHER INCOME UNITS.

THIS IS THE MAP, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THE RED AREAS WHERE THE KEY AREAS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED KIND OF WITHIN THE CITY OF LA HABRA AS THOSE SITES, IN WHICH WE HAVE CAPACITY THEMSELVES, WHAT'S INTERESTING AND LOOKING AT THIS AND REALLY IS BECOMING OBJECTIVE IN THE STATE, UH, AS WELL.

IT'S NOT TO CONCENTRATE THEM ALL IN ONE LOCATION.

IT'S BASICALLY TO HAVE A DISPERSAL OF HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, ON THOSE DISPERSION OF THE ROUND RED COLORS, ET CETERA, THAT ARE ON THE MAP THEY ARE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THEY'RE PRIMARILY ALONG CORRIDORS, UH, AND, UH, AGAIN IN SORT OF CENTERS OR LARGER CENTER AREAS AS WELL.

AND ALL EACH OF THESE IS DESCRIBED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, ET CETERA.

SO WITH THESE STRATEGIES, 80 IS WITH PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE COMING UP IN TERMS OF BEING IN CONSTRUCTION AND WITH THESE ADDITIONAL SITES THEMSELVES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMPLY, OR WILL WE COMPLY WITH THE NUMBERS THAT, UH, UH, SKY GOES ALLOCATED US AND MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS, ET CETERA.

THIS CHART INDICATES THAT AT EACH INCOME LEVEL, EXCEPT VERY LOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WHAT WE CALL CREDITS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, MORE SUPPLY THAN WE NEED AT EACH OF THOSE LEVELS TO MEET THE NUMBERS THEMSELVES.

THAT ARENA NUMBER IS THE RED NUMBER IN THE RED BAR, THE BLUE BAR ON THIS CHART AS AN INDICATION OF HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WE'LL HAVE.

SO WE HAVE A FACTOR OF COMFORT IF YOU WILL, TO MOVE AROUND IN, WITHIN THE PROJECTIONS THEMSELVES.

WHAT'S INTERESTING.

THE VERY LOW IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE OF CONSTRUCTION, COST AFFORDABILITY, AND JUST A REAL BUILDING TO CREATE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDIES, VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING.

BUT THE STATE IN LOOKING AT THIS WILL NOT BASICALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS SO MUCH BECAUSE WHAT THE STATE REALLY LOOKS AT IS THE COMBINATION OF THE VERY LOW AND THE LOW.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY LOW AND THE LOW CUMULATIVELY, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IN TERMS OF YOUR NUMBERS.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY THAT IS BEING PROVIDED IN THE PLAN ITSELF, THOSE ARE THE NEEDS.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBER CRUNCHING THE THINGS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE'S LOOKING FOR.

SO THE OTHER KEY COMPONENT OF THE PLAN, OF COURSE, AS THEY ARE THE GOALS OF POLICIES AND IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAMS, UM, I TEACH GENERAL PLANS COURSE AT USC, AND I ALWAYS GO THROUGH WRESTLING WITH THIS ONCE AGO, WHAT'S A POLICY, WHAT'S AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM, AND I'VE WORKED WITH PLENTY OF COMMUNITIES.

I WORKED A WRESTLE WITH OUR STAFF AND HOW YOU WEAR THESE, ET CETERA.

LET ME KIND OF KEEP THIS SIMPLY A GOAL AS A DESIRED END STATE.

IT DOESN'T TELL YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

AND A GOAL IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WORK AT.

LET'S SAY IN A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE MAY SET CERTAIN PROFITABILITY GOAL ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, A GOAL IS A DESIRED END STATE LIKE CLEAN STREETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE AT THE END HOUSING.

IT'S A SIMPLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO BE WITHIN EIGHT YEARS, ET CETERA.

THE POLICY, THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN IS REALLY WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE, THE GUTS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND PROGRAMS, BECAUSE IT'S THE ACTION THAT TELLS YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CLEAN STREETS, ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE OUT THERE CLEANING UP OUR STREETS ON A WEEKLY BASIS, ET CETERA, AS A CITY ACTION OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR WHATEVER ELSE ITSELF.

AND THEN AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU MAY HAVE A POLICY TO CREATE ENOUGH.

ADEQUATE SITES IS A POLICY TO GET TO THAT, THAT REACHES THOSE NUMBERS.

THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM MAY BE TO MAKE SURE THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR AMEND YOUR ZONING ARTS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT CAPACITY, ET CETERA.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE BASIC HIERARCHY IN THIS DOCUMENT, AND YOU WILL SEE THE GOALS, POLICIES, AND PROGRAMS ON PAGES, A A FIVE DASH 13 THROUGH FIVE DASH 16, AND THEY'RE RELATED TO FOUR BASIC, UH, GOALS OVERALL OVERARCHING, ET CETERA.

BUT LET ME GO TO THE, I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY, UH, THERE WAS A CASE WHERE WE WANTED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL GOALS, POLICIES, AND PROGRAMS TO SEE, ARE THEY, WERE THEY UNDERSTANDABLE? I MEAN, ANY OF US WHO WRITE GOALS AND POLICIES AT SOME POINT REALIZED THAT SOMETIMES THE WORDING MAY NOT BE CLEAR OR WE LIKE TO USE LIKE A LOT OF VAGUE LANGUAGE AND DOES THE SECOND READER DOESN'T REALLY TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WROTE, UH, IF YOU WILL.

AND ROY STAFF MAYBE SCRATCHING THEIR HEAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DID THEY REALLY MEAN BY THAT? SO WE'D GO BACK AND GO THROUGH THE EXISTING HOUSING ELEMENT AND LOOK AT THE WORDING AND ET CETERA, AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE GOALS AND POLICIES THAT WERE IN THAT PLAN AND MAKE SOME MINOR REVISIONS AS NECESSARY TO MEET

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THAT.

I ALREADY MENTIONED ST.

LAWS CHANGE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOALS POLICIES REFLECT THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

I MENTIONED, WE NOW HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPOSITION OF THE POPULATION, A CHANGING POPULATION, ET CETERA.

SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE GOALS AND POLICIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TARGETED FOR THOSE AS WELL.

NOW, THE BASIC GOALS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

THE, THE, THE, THE PROGRAMS ARE THOSE ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TELL US HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET TO AND ACHIEVE THOSE POLICIES THEMSELVES.

SO THEREFORE, BASIC GOALS.

ONE IS ADDRESSING HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY, AND THAT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD HOUSING, GOOD HOUSING STOCK THAT IT'S MAINTAINED OVER OVER YEARS OF TIME, ET CETERA.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE LOVE LA HARBOR PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM, A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 12 RIGHT NOW, HISTORICALLY ABOUT 12 EVENTS PER YEAR VOLUNTEER BASIS, WHERE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE GET TOGETHER WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO DO YARD CLEAN UP, THEN HOUSING MAINTENANCE, AND HELPING OUT PEOPLE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CONTRIBUTES TO NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY, BY THE WAY, ON THIS CHART, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE TERMS NEW, SAME, SAME REVISED, ET CETERA.

NEW MEANS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN YOUR EXISTING HOUSING ELEMENT.

SO YOU WILL SEE HERE, LOVE LAHABRA PROGRAM WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS BEING IMPLEMENTED AT THE LAST TIME THAT YOU WORKED ON YOUR EXISTING, UH, UH, HOUSING OR HOUSING ELEMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, IT'S THE SAME, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY NOT MODIFIED WHAT IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S THAT PROVISION OF MONEY AND RESOURCES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHICH NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE REQUIRED AS WELL.

UM, HOUSING PRESERVATION PROGRAMS ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE.

THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL REHAB, UH, PROGRAM, WHICH IS BASICALLY TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT WAYS TO FINANCE AND AGAIN, IMPROVEMENT HOUSING, AND THEN H ENERGY CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AS WELL.

SO EACH OF THESE, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL, THEY'RE WRITTEN AT LENGTH WITHIN YOUR EXISTING DOCUMENT, ET CETERA, BUT THOSE ARE ALL PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT STARTED FROM SCRATCH.

AND THE ONLY TRULY NEW ONE HERE IS A LA LOVE LAHABRA PROGRAM.

BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN PLACE IN THE CITY TODAY.

SO THIS ELEMENT IS NOW CALLING FOR YOU TO CREATE NEW PROGRAMS THAT MAY NOT ALREADY BE ON YOUR TABLE, WHERE IT'S NEW.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BASICALLY BEEN ENACTED SINCE INDEED THE LAST HOUSING ELDERMAN ITSELF.

HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES ARE OBVIOUSLY RELATED TO THOSE SITES THAT IDENTIFIED AND WE'VE SHOWN ON THE MAP, THE ADEQUATE SITES.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS, ONCE YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SITES, ONE OF THE WAYS YOU WANT A HOUSING AND PRODUCTION TO OCCUR IS TO PRIORITIZE CERTAIN KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT PROCESSING THEM.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY IS ADOPTED ALREADY A PRIORITY PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR RENTAL OWNERSHIP PROJECTS WITH INCLUSIONARY OR ENFORCEABLE UNITS TODAY.

AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND TIER FOR PROJECTS THAT A EMPLOYEE SUSTAINABLE BUILDING SITE PLANNING AND LANDSCAPING PRACTICES AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING PRIORITY PROGRAM WHERE YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING THERE'S A CATEGORY TYPES OF HOUSING PROJECTS.

WE WANT TO MOVE TO THE HEAD OF THE TABLE IN TERMS OF, AND THE HEAD OF THE LIST IN TERMS OF PROCESSING, UH, THE FUTURE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, HAS BEEN REVISED SOMEWHAT BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATION HAS BEEN REVISED.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE REVISED AGAIN BEFORE WE GET TO THE END OF THIS YEAR, UH, TO SET ASIDE, UH, UH, YOU GIVE YOU BASICALLY EXTRA UNITS, A BONUS FOR PROVIDING LOW AND MODERATE KINDS, UH, UNITS.

UH, CURRENTLY IT'S UP TO 35% OF THE TOTAL, UH, PROJECT IN THE CITY'S ORDINANCES ARE REFLECTIVE OF THOSE STATEWIDE, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ORDINANCE TODAY FOR THE CITY OF LA HUBBARD.

IT'S NOT BEING USED A LOT.

UH, SO I THINK THE, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENTS OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SORT OF EVALUATE WHY IT MAY NOT BE USED TODAY A LOT, UH, WHETHER THERE ARE APPROPRIATE REVISIONS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, ET CETERA.

WE HAVEN'T DEFINED WHAT THOSE WOULD BE AT THIS TIME, BUT THIS IS INDEED SOMETHING POSTS THE ADOPTION OF THE HOUSING WOULD CONTINUE ITSELF.

AND THEN THERE IS THE ACTUAL, IF YOU WILL PROVISION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL, UH, TO BASICALLY ASSIST, UH, THE CITY, THE CITY WOULD PLAY A ROLE IN ASSISTING IN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF THE HOUSING AT THESE VARIOUS LEVELS, FROM THE VERY LOW, LOW, MODERATE, AND UPPER INCOME HOUSING, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND PROGRAMS ARE, UH, UH, SUGGESTED HERE RANGING FROM PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER AGENCIES WHO ARE HOUSING PROVIDERS, UH, SUCH AS THE, UH, ORANGE COUNTY HOUSING TRUST, UH, THE ORANGE COUNTY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

ONE OF THESE YOU RECENTLY

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AS NEW, UH, FOR YOU, UH, IN THIS HOUSING ELEMENT, AND THAT'S THE, UH, UH, ACTION YOU TOOK A FEW WEEKS AGO.

THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, IN APRIL TO CREATE AN INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES ANY PROJECT OF 10 OR MORE UNITS, UH, TO SET ASIDE 15% OF THE HOUSING UNITS IN THE PROJECT FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE PROVIDE AN IN LIEU FEE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE UNITS IS WHAT I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD.

PLENTY OF DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AS THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ON THIS AS WELL.

YOU HAVE A, UH, WHAT IS NEW, BUT IN SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE CITY OWNS TWO MOBILE HOME PARKS, UH, ET CETERA, WHICH ARE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND RE REPRESENT AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UH, AND THE CITY IS NOT ONLY OWNS THOSE PROPERTY, BUT AS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED SERVICES FOR THOSE UNITS AS WELL.

AND THAT IS A WAY TO INDEED MAINTAIN AFFORDABILITY FOR HOUSING UNITS AS WELL.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, UH, AND CONTINUES TO BE, UH, ASSISTANT HOUSING UNITS WITHIN THE CITY RENT RESTRICTED UNITS.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS.

WELL, ONE THAT APPEARS TO BE GOING OUT OF PROTECTION WITHIN PROBABLY THIS YEAR.

IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN ANOTHER PROJECT THEY MAY AND DEBT AND IT'S PROTECTION, IT'S STILL BEING CONSIDERED FOR WHETHER THAT WILL COME OUT.

THE REMAINDER OF THE, UH, RENT RESTRICTED UNITS WILL STILL HAVE COVENANTS THAT WILL CARRY THEM OUT TO 20, 20, 20, 44 AND 2045.

SO THOSE ARE PRETTY WELL-PROTECTED, BUT THERE IS, WILL BE A LOSS.

AND INDEED THE PLAN LOOKS AT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY UNITS, CHANGING TO MARKET RATE PRICES BY THEIR OWNERS, OR INDEED SOME KIND OF INCENTIVES AND PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE, UH, TENANTS OF THOSE BUILDINGS IS MOVE FORWARD, UH, AS WELL WITH THOSE FACTS THAT THOSE RENTS WILL BE GOING UP AS WELL.

UH, ANOTHER ELEMENT ON THIS NUMBER FIVE, UH, HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY FEDERAL PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE, TO MAKE UP A DEFICIT, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE BY AN INDIVIDUAL, UH, AND THEREFORE UNITS, UH, BASICALLY FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT OR ANY HOME REGISTERED WITH THE COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY AS WELL.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR LAST, UH, AND THIS IS A NEW SECTION.

UH, THE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY A COMBINATION OF, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WERE IN OTHER SECTIONS FOR OTHER GOALS.

UH, THIS AGAIN IS A NEW REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A SECTION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, VERY SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOUSING EQUITABLE TO EVERY NOT JUST INCOME LEVEL, BUT EVERY RATIO ETHNIC GROUP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND SPECIAL NEEDS OF HOUSING.

AND THE PROGRAMS IN HERE REALLY FOCUSING UPON, AGAIN, PROVIDING AGAIN, CONTINUING PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE TODAY ON SENIOR HOUSING UNITS, OBVIOUSLY HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH WHO HAVE DISABILITIES, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, GRANTS TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE.

OBVIOUSLY WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, ADA FOR, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE HOUSING UNITS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE, UH, WITH, UH, DISABILITIES.

UM, THERE IS AN EXPANDED PROGRAM HERE ON HOMELESS SERVICES.

YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER, UH, PROJECT WITH THE, UH, PARTNER WITH THE LADY OF GUADALUPE PROVIDING URGENCY SERVICES AND REFERRAL TO OTHER AGENCIES FOR A SHELTER LONG-TERM SHELTER PROGRAM.

UH, CHILD DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS A PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE HAD HERE IN PLACE THROUGH THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

UH, JOB TRAINING OBVIOUSLY IS AN IMPORTANT WAY TO INCREASE INCOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, A NUMBER OF THOSE CONTINUING IN PLACE.

AND THEN THE CURRENTLY IS A FAIR HOUSING SERVICE PROVIDER, FAIR HOUSING FOUNDATION, AND WORKING THROUGH THEM.

THAT'S A LOT OF MATERIAL.

THERE WILL BE NO POP QUIZ HERE.

UH, AND, UH, IF A COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR LIKE ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION, UH, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

ARE YOU SURE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, YEAH, AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL ON THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF, UM, BEGINNING WITH COMMISSIONER ROJAS.

GOOD.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, VERY THOROUGH, UH, PRESENTATION.

UH, MY FIRST QUESTION IS THE RENA INCOME BREAKDOWN.

WAS THAT SET BY THE ARENA OR WAS THAT SET BY THE CITY, THE ARENA? YES.

THEY, THEY, THEY GIVE YOU THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER AND THEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY DIVIDE THAT NUMBER DOWN BASED UPON EACH OF THOSE LEVELS, THE VERY LOW IT'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE INCOME, UH, WHICH I DON'T HAVE AT THE TIP OF MY FINGERS RIGHT NOW, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE DIVIDED DOWN BASED UPON THE CRITERIA, UH, OF, OF, UH, TH TH THE NUMBERS FOR LAHABRA

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AT EACH OF THOSE INCOME LEVELS WERE PROVIDED BY SCAG BY THE STATE.

OKAY.

SO LIKE THE NUMBER OF VERY LOW UNITS THAT NEED TO BE BUILT WHERE BASICALLY THAT GOAL WAS SET BY THEM AND IT'S UP TO THE CITY ON HOW THEY GOTCHA.

UM, I HAD ANOTHER, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN ACTUALLY REGARDING THE ADU UNITS AND HOW AMBITIOUS THE NUMBER ACTUALLY IS.

I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S KIND OF A MODEST NUMBER, BUT I WAS READING THROUGH IT AND I NOTICED THAT IN THE PREVIOUS.

UM, SO WE'RE STATING THIS TIME AROUND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 50, UM, WE'RE EXPECTING, UH, 50 ATU UNITS PER YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 400 IS WHAT FOR THE EIGHT YEARS.

CORRECT.

UM, SO THAT AVERAGE AVERAGE IS OUT TO 50.

WE ONLY BUILT 50 IN THE LAST HOUSING CYCLE.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT IT STATED THAT THERE WAS 43 APPLICATIONS DONE IN 2020.

UM, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS ONLY, UH, FIVE COMPLETED IN 2019 AND FIVE COMPLETED IN 2018.

SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT I KNOW WE'RE BASING IT ON 2020 NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S CLEARLY SEEMS TO BE AN OUTLIER.

SO I, I GUESS I'M JUST CONCERNED AS TO HOW AMBITIOUS THAT NUMBER REALLY IS WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, SO YEAH, LET ME TAKE A STAB AT THAT FIRST CAUSE I LOOKED AT, SO YOU'D ASKED ME EARLIER TODAY, UM, HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE HAVE TO DATE AND WE HAVE 16 IN THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO IS THE STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD ONE ARE MUCH EASIER BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT STATE LAWS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, UNDER THE CURRENT STATE LAWS, YOU CAN CONVERT YOUR GARAGE TO A SECOND UNIT WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING OR REPLACING THE PARKING YOU'RE TAKING AWAY UNDER LAHABRA CODES PRIOR TO THIS, THAT YOU COULD NOT CONVERT YOUR GARAGE UNLESS YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW GARAGE SPACES.

SO BASED ON THE RESTRICTIONS BEING MUCH LESS THAN WHAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY UNDER OUR ZONING CODE PLAYS INTO WHY WE'RE GETTING AN INFLUX NOW AND WHY WE EXPECT HER TO CONTINUE TO BE AN INFLUX AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE, BECAUSE EVERY DAY THE STATE PASSES A NEW LAW, WHICH TIES THE CITY'S HANDS EVEN MORE AND MAKES IT EVEN EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD THESE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE TREND OF THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S WHAT OUR ESTIMATE IS BASED ON.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, I MEAN, 16, THAT'S STILL NOT EVEN HALF OF THE 50 AND WE'RE ALREADY SIX MONTHS IN, SO AGAIN, JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW AMBITIOUS THAT NUMBER SEEMS. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I DO SEE THE STATE MAYBE MENTIONING THAT I'M I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THEY'RE GOING TO REVIEW THIS AND THEY MIGHT SEND IT BACK WITH A BUNCH OF COMMENTS AND, UM, THAT'S, IF I WAS THEM, THAT'S ONE COMMENT THAT I WOULD PROBABLY MAKE.

UM, ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO I GUESS JUST, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF A WAY TO, I GUESS, COME UP WITH THAT DIFFERENCE, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT IS KIND OF AN AMBITIOUS NUMBER AND MAY WE MAY NEED TO IDENTIFY OTHER SITES OR, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT DENSITY.

I KNOW THIS THE CITY AND CITIZENS IS NOT VERY, UH, KEEN ON HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

SO, I MEAN, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO MAYBE CONSIDER OTHER SITES MAYBE JUST AS BACKUP.

UM, THAT WAS MY CONCERN REGARDING THAT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLES THAT ARE IN THE ACTUAL ELEMENT, IN WHICH I TRIED TO PUT INTO YOUR STAFF REPORT, WE WERE PLANNING FOR MORE THAN THE 804 HOUSES WERE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE NET LOSS AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.

UM, SO JUST TO HEDGE OUR BETS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER THAN, THAN THE 800.

SO W WHERE'S THAT TABLE, ROY, UM, LEAVE IT AS TABLE TABLE H H T 4.5 4.5 AND THAT'S IN THEIR STAFF REPORT AND IT'S ALSO IN THE ELEMENT.

IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO READ IN THE ACTUAL ELEMENT.

WHAT IS, UM, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SUMMIT, THE SUM OF ALL OF THAT.

I KNOW YOU SAID, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS CHART HAS THEM ADDED.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT LINE.

AND THAT'S WHAT, ONE OF MY OBSERVATIONS THAT WE NEED TO, TO CLEAN THIS UP A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN IN THIS TABLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST 10 PROJECTS ON THE LIST ARE ACTUAL PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER UNDERWAY OR IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE UNITS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH MONEY IN THE BANK, SO TO SPEAK.

AND THAT TIES BACK TO TABLE 4.2.

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AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS ADD UP TO A 283.

SO ITEMS, ITEMS ONE THROUGH 10 ON THIS LIST.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE A 30 YEAR NUMBER JUST WITH PROJECTS WE ALREADY HAVE IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PLANNING STAGES OR APPROVED.

SO IN THE OTHER SITES WE IDENTIFIED AS MR. TESHA POINTED OUT, AREN'T JUST RANDOM SITES WE SELECTED BECAUSE THEY HAD CORRECT ZONING THAT THAT'S PARTIALLY TRUE.

BUT ALSO THESE ARE TIED INTO, THESE ARE SITES WHERE WE REGULARLY GET PHONE CALLS FROM DEVELOPERS, ASKING WHAT IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH OUR SYSTEM AND PLAN UNITS FOR THESE SITES.

SO WE KNOW THE PRICE RANGE THAT THEY'RE THERE A SALE FOR IS ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS.

AND WE TRULY EXPECT IN THE SHORT TERM SOME PROJECTS TO HAPPEN ON, ON THESE SITES.

MY, MY QUICK MATH IS TELLING ME 8, 8 20.

DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT'S THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

OKAY.

YOU'RE GOOD.

YES, SIR.

YEP.

YEP.

COMMISSION.

AND AGAIN, THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE ANOTHER SITES WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY IDENTIFIED ON, ON THIS TABLE THAT ARE ALSO RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF HAVING THE CORRECT ZONING IN GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATIONS IN PLACE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE JUST GET SURPRISED AND SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON OUR DOORS THAT, OH, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON THIS SITE.

SO WE WERE BEING CONSERVATIVE AND JUST PICKING THE SITES WHERE WE KNOW PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED US AND ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT I KNOW THERE ARE MORE, MORE SITES OUT THERE THAT ARE RIGHT FOR DEVELOPERS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

TOO MUCH BETWEEN ACTUALLY READING THE DRAFT ELEMENT AND MR. TASHA IS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

UH, I THINK, UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE PROCEDURAL JUST FOR THE RECORD TO CONFIRM WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING FORWARD.

AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY, IF WE RECOMMEND A COUNCIL, UM, TO SUBMIT THIS TO, UH, HCD, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR REVIEW AND THEIR COMMENTS, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO CIRCLE BACK ESSENTIALLY TO US AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN.

SO, UH, FOR NOW MY FEELING IS THAT G PAC DID A HECK OF A GOOD JOB WORKING THROUGH THESE ISSUES.

AND, UM, AND THANKS TO YOUR GUIDANCE AS WELL.

AND STAFF HAS WORKED ENORMOUSLY HARD ON THIS.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, SUBSTANTIVE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT ITSELF, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT IN THE WASH AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW THE STATE RESPONDS AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME HEAVY LIFTING TO DO AT THAT POINT, UH, BETWEEN US AND COUNCIL.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN YOUR EXPERIENCE.

WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE STATE, UM, KICKING THIS BACK WITH A LOT OF COMMENTS LIKELY, I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN IT COME BACK, LOOKS GREAT CAREER ONLY ONE OR TWO IN THE EARLIER EASIER HOUSING ELEMENT ERAS, UH, UH, HCD IS OFF THE RECORD.

HCD IS HIRING A LOT OF STAFF RIGHT NOW TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS, AND THEREFORE I THINK THAT INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD.

UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY EXPECTING TWO POSSIBLE REVIEWS AT SCAG THIS TIME AND, AND REVIEW COMMENTS.

UH, AND WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING FROM SACRAMENTO THAT, UM, AND THAT, AS I SAID, BECAUSE OF THE SCRUTINY ABOUT THE REALITY NOW, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND ON FIRMER GROUND WITH HCD IS HCD SO FAR ON INFORMER REVIEWS.

SOUTH PASADENA, FOR EXAMPLE, IS REALLY QUESTIONING THE ASSUMPTION OF THE ABILITY TO CONVERT LARGE OLD COMMERCIAL SITES TO MIXED USE VERTICAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROVISIONS FOR A LOT OF THESE PLANS RIGHT NOW.

UM, THEY'RE DEMONSTRATING, AS I SAID, A HIGHER LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE, I THINK A LOT OF YOUR SITES AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ADVANTAGE AGAIN IS YOU HAVE SITES WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE EXPRESSED CONSIDERABLE INTEREST IN WHAT HE SAID, THE CALLS THEY'RE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

IF YOU WILL, THERE COULD BE OTHER SITES WHICH WOULD GET YOU INTO THAT CATEGORY THAT ARE BEING QUESTIONED POSSIBLY BY A CD.

I KNOW YOU'LL GET AT LEAST ONE, UH, RE REVIEW AND IT'S VERY POSSIBLE.

YOU'LL GET A SECOND AS WELL.

AFTER THE SECOND DRAFT, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A SENSE OF PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN LIKE THE LEVEL OF 80 USE VERSUS THE OVERALL RENA NUMBER? I MEAN, OURS BEING ABOUT 50%, LIKE, IS, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT? DOES THAT SEEM HIGH, TYPICALLY AMBITIOUS NUMBER FOR EIGHT TO USE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TOTAL? I THINK AS YOU SAW IN THOSE CHARTS THAT WE HAD UP THERE WITH THE BAR CHARTS IS WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT, IF YOU WILL, NUMBERS

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OF, OF FLEX ROOM, IF YOU WILL.

AND SOME OF THESE OTHER CATEGORIES THEMSELVES.

SO THERE MAY BE THE ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THE NUMBERS YOU'RE NOT CONSTRAINED, OR THOSE CREDIT AREAS OR POTENTIAL CREDITS ARE DOWN TO THE BAR OR THE RENA NUMBERS EXCEPT ON THE VERY LOW.

SO THEY'RE VERY LOW WILL BE THE ONE.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT THE STATE WILL BE LOOKING AT WILL BE, UM, THE, THE PROGRAMS THEMSELVES, UH, OBVIOUSLY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT IS NEW FOR THE CITY.

UH, SO THERE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE REALITY OF THAT AND MAKING THAT WORK WITHIN LAHABRA WHEN, AND IT HASN'T BEEN A TOOL THAT YOU HAD BEFORE, UH, THEY WILL BE LOOKING, IS IT THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT SITES, BUT THEY'LL ALSO BE LOOKING AT WHETHER THE MIX OF PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT, WHETHER YOUR BONUS DENSITY PROGRAM MAKES SENSE, WHETHER AGAIN, ALL OF THE WAYS TO STIMULATE PRODUCTION, WHETHER THOSE, THE PRIORITY PROCESSING, UH, THEY LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES COMPARABLE CITIES MAY BE DOING AND SAY, WELL, SHOULD LAHABRA CONSIDER THIS AS, AS A PROGRAM THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE ON YOUR LEDGER TODAY.

THAT'S HELPFUL WHEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ESTIMATE OF 50 80 USE CAME ABOUT, UM, I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP ON JUST THE 80 USE TONIGHT, BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER ROJAS HAD A GOOD POINT.

AND AT FIRST GLANCE, I FEEL LIKE THE ROY, I BELIEVE YOU WOULD AGREE HAS MADE IT EXCEEDINGLY EASIER TO PROCESS 80 USE.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR, YOU KNOW, ATTEMPT TO DO SO AT THE CITY LEVEL.

UM, REGARDLESS OF, OF SOME CITIES PUSHING BACK ON THAT NOW WHERE WE LOOKING AT LIKE, JUST TRENDS IN GENERAL, LIKE BEYOND THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA, I MEAN 16 OR OH FOUR OR WHATEVER IT WAS LIKE BEFORE 2020, AND THEN 43 AND 2020.

AND THEN I WAS LIKE SURPRISED TO HEAR ONLY 16 THIS YEAR, BECAUSE I WOULD SURMISE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET INTO THE FALL AND WINTER, LIKE THAT'S NOT GREAT BUILD TIME ANYWAY.

AND SO I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSS IS ONTO SOMETHING LIKE 50 IS WE'RE NOT EVEN HALFWAY THERE AND WE'RE KIND OF BEYOND THIS PEAK OF CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, MY BACKGROUND TELLS ME THAT 80 YEARS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR.

SO I SEE HOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S A MODEST NUMBER, BUT IT WAS THERE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT, I MEAN THAT YOU GUYS JUST KIND OF LEAN LEAN ON FOR THAT APPROXIMATION AND IN COMPARABLE COMMUNITIES.

I THINK ONE OF THE MEASURES WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE LAHABRA, UH, AND MAYBE HARD TO DO SO RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE LIKE TURNING THE CORNER ON, ON WHAT THE PROGNOSIS OF AUS WILL, WILL BECOME.

AND, AND THE OTHER WE'RE IN THIS SORT OF STRANGE CYCLE, ALSO IN BUILDING PERMITS NOW BECAUSE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION HAS GONE SKYROCKET.

AND SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE IN A LOW PERIOD OR A HIGH PERIOD, AND HOW HAS THAT REALLY AFFECTED THE, OR THE, THE, THE DILEMMA ON ANY OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING PROCESSES? WE GO THROUGH ECONOMIC CYCLES THAT, UH, THERE, THERE ARE THE TIMES LIKE 2008 WHERE NOTHING WAS HAPPENING, UH, AND THEN WE'VE HAD A BUS OR BOOM.

AND THEN WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID, WE HAD A BIG BOOM, UH, ET CETERA, UNTIL THE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MATERIALS WENT SKYROCKETING AS WELL.

SO FORECASTING IS VERY TOUGH IF YOU WILL.

AND I THINK THE KEY HERE IS LOOKING AT WHETHER WE CREATE CAPACITY AND OUR ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND IN THE COST, THOSE CAPACITY FIGURES AS WE LOOK FORWARD.

AND I THINK THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE RESPONSES, THINGS WE WANT TO, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WITH, UH, UH, WITH HUD IN TERMS OF THEIR COMMENTS AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD THAT HUD IS GOING TO COME DOWN.

THEY ORIGINALLY, UH, IN EARLY CONVERSATIONS WITH ACD AND WE HAVE ON OUR STAFFS AND FORMER EMPLOYEES OF HCD, UH, AND THEY, THEIR COMMENTS WERE INITIALLY VERY ROBUST ABOUT ADS IN THE STATE.

AND AS RECENTLY AS THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY'RE BECOMING LESS, UH, OPTIMISTIC ABOUT, UH, THOSE NUMBERS.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FULLY STAFFED, WE'LL GET FEEDBACK, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE THINGS AROUND.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME.

WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

UM, IF MR. FISHER, IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, UH, WOULD INVITE YOU TO DO SO NOW I'M SEEING THEM AT THIS POINT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND OR EMOTION.

GO AHEAD THERE TOO MUCH MORE TO ADD.

I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HCD SAYS AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD

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TO, THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PARTS INVOLVED IN THIS.

IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FORESEE EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE CHALLENGE AND WHAT WON'T.

WE COULD BE SURPRISED WITH ADU APPLICATIONS, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREETS, IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING THIS BRIGHT IDEA.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE COULD BE WOEFULLY DISAPPOINTED AS COMMISSIONER ROJAS INDICATES AS A POSSIBILITY.

SO AGAIN, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE STATE SAYS IN MY VIEW, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT WHEN IT COMES BACK AND THEN WE'LL ULTIMATELY SEE WHAT COUNCIL HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, NOPE, NO FURTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER ROJAS.

UM, YEAH, SO I WAS ONE OF THE FIVE IN 2019.

I ACTUALLY COMPLETED AN ADU UNIT HERE IN THE HARBOR.

UM, SO I DEFINITELY SEE THE BENEFITS OF HAVING IT.

UM, I, I ONLY CAUTION BECAUSE IT DID SEEM LIKE AN AMBITIOUS NUMBER THAT IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, HANDLE HALF OF OUR EXPECTATION.

UM, BUT I DO ALSO THINK THAT THE CITY, IF THAT IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, THE CITY CAN DEFINITELY DEVELOP PROGRAMS TO INCENTIVIZE MORE ADU AND PROMOTE IT MORE AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISE IT AND MAKE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH EASIER IT IS BY EVEN COMING UP WITH LIKE FLOOR PLAN TEMPLATES THAT SOMEBODY COULD JUST USE.

AND NOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIRE A DESIGNER AND ARCHITECT TO DO IT.

SO NOW YOU'RE SAVING THEM MONEY.

SO IT'S EVEN MORE INCENTIVIZED TO DO THAT.

UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT I, I DON'T, UH, I GUESS, UH, PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR 80 UNITS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I DO.

UM, BUT IT'S MORE OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH IT.

UM, AND YEAH, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY COMMENTS, ROY, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A HANDOUT FOR, TO USE ACTUALLY WE DO.

I, UM, I'LL, I'LL PUT A COPY OF THAT IN YOUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA PACKET.

WE'D SEND OUT TO YOU GUYS CAN ALL SEE IT.

IT'S OUR, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL PUT IT TOGETHER.

AND, UH, IT'S A VERY GOOD HANDOUT THAT GOES THROUGH THE VERY BASIC RULES AND THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND TYPES AND STYLES OF HOW YOU CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

HAS THE PROCESS BEEN A LOT SMOOTHER FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE SINCE THAT HANDOUTS BEEN IN PLACE OR IS IT BRAND NEW? THE HANDOUTS BEEN IN PLACE ABOUT THREE WEEKS, SO WE DON'T KNOW YET TO BE DETERMINED.

GREAT.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD JUST ECHO WHAT THE REST OF YOU SAID.

UM, AND I'M PREPARED FOR A MOTION.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE CITY, LA HABRA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED STAFF TO FORWARD THE DROUGHT HOUSING ELEMENT TO THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACD FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, THE MOTION, EVERYBODY, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSED THREE, ZERO.

THANK YOU.

OH, AND THEY WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW.

OKAY, GREAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY CONSIDERATION ITEMS THIS EVENING? NO.

MR. CHAIRMAN, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NO.

MR. CHAIRMAN, ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER AND EXPERIAN? NOT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ROJAS.

NONE FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GREAT PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID THAT ON THAT AS WELL AS STAFF AND G PACK.

AND I KNOW IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE, UM, TO SAY THE LEAST AND MAYBE SOME OTHER FOUR-LETTER WORDS, BUT WE'LL LEAVE.

WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, AUGUST 9TH.