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AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2022 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
WILL THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? READY? BEGIN.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER ROJAS HERE.
CHAIRMAN LEE VICE CHAIR MUNOZ.
THE RECORDS SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER BURNEY HAS A, AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THIS EVENING.
WELL NOW ENTER INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, COMMENTS SHOULD BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3.
A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? DID YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD? I WILL SAY YES TO SHARE.
DARREN EXPERIAN, ONE 10 EAST LA HARBOR BOULEVARD.
UH, I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL THURSDAY.
IT FELT LIKE AN INCOMPLETE EXPERIENCE WHEN I FOUND OUT I NO LONGER WAS.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I FELT COMPELLED TO COME IN TONIGHT AND THANK YOU ALL DEEPLY.
AND FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, UH, MY THREE COLLEAGUES UP HERE ARE MAGNIFICENT.
UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT PLEASURE SHARING YOU AS MY NEAREST NEIGHBOR, UH, COMMISSIONER ROJAS.
AND CHAIRMAN LEE, YOU HAVE BEEN AN OUTSTANDING CHAIRMAN OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION, THE BEST I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN.
AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU FULL CREDIT FOR THAT YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR PERFORMANCE AS CHAIR WAS IMPECCABLE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
MANNY, THE EXPERTISE YOU BRING TO THIS COMMISSION IS JUST A MEASURABLE, IT WAS SUCH A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU.
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK OF COURSE, ROY WHO I'VE KNOWN SINCE WE HAD ROTARY DIAL PHONES HERE, I THINK.
AND, UH, CHRIS AND DAVID, YOU GUYS ARE FANTASTIC.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE GIVING STAFF REPORTS TO COUNCIL VERONICA.
AND SUSAN, IT'S BEEN SUCH A GREAT PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
AND MY BRIEF EXPERIENCE HERE IN THIS VENUE HAS BEEN WONDERFUL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
I JUST FELT LIKE I WANTED TO PUT A PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE.
SO I THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD MEETING TONIGHT AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL SOON.
THANK YOU FOR FROM AND CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5, 4 0.3.
SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THIS MEETING, DARREN.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
WE WERE ABOUT TO PUT YOU ON A TIMER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. NIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU.
IF YOU'RE, ARE YOU HERE FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? OKAY, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
SO THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO I'M SEEING THEM, SO WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
WE'LL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS AS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE AND LESS THAN ITEMS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? VICE-CHAIR MUNOZ? NO COMMISSIONER MUNOS.
DID I TOTALLY COMMISSIONER ROJAS? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? OKAY.
HEARING NONE AT THIS TIME, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? PERFECT.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROJAS, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.
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MOTION PASSES THREE.OKAY, WELL NOW MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
THE PROCEDURALS BE AS FOLLOWS.
UH, THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE AN ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST.
AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AFTER ALL HAS SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS THAT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, LEAVE IT AT THE LECTOR.
AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU'LL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL.
WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, 19 1 5 5 AND DESIGN REVIEW 21 DASH OH FIVE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 16 UNIT RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 3 3 1 3 4 1 3 5 1 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET AND 3, 1 6 SOUTH ALDRICH STREET.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? WE DID NOT.
MR. CHAIR, DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
THIS STANDINGS PROJECT IS A 16 UNIT CONDOMINIUM, UH, PROJECT.
AND I'LL START WITH THE BACKGROUND.
THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE PROJECT AREA IS MULTIFAMILY THREE, WHICH ALLOWS 36 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS, ARE SIX.
UH, THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THE AREA WAS AMENDED IN 2014, FROM INDUSTRIAL TO HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN, 2035 AND THE ZONING DESIGNATION, WHICH CHANGED FROM LIGHT MANUFACTURING TO R SIX MULTIFAMILY IN 2008 AND 2009, 19 2018 AND 19 TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE PROJECT LAYOUT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE ARIEL AND THREE OF THE LOTS ARE CURRENTLY IMPROVED WITH SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES, WHICH FRONT ONTO CYPRESS STREET.
AND THE FOURTH LOT, UH, HAS ACCESSED VIA ALDRIDGE STREET AND IS IMPROVED WITH AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
SO ALL THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
AND, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, IT WILL REMOVE A NON-CONFORMING USE, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRIAL USE TO A LAND NEW SECOND FORMS WITH BOTH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING.
SO THE PROJECT INCLUDES A TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, WHICH WILL COMBINE FOUR LOTS INTO ONE PARCEL WITH A SIZE OF 39,986 SQUARE FEET.
THE PARCEL IS FINAL CONFIGURATION WILL BE TRIANGULAR, UH, WITH STREET FRONTAGE ALONG CYPRUS STREET AND ALDRICH.
THE TENTATIVE MAP IS PROPOSED FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES, WHICH WILL CREATE 16 UNITS TO BE SOLD AT MARKET RATE.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE 10 FEET ALONG THE PARCELS FRONTAGE.
THIS WOULD BE ON CYPRESS STREET.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT FIVE OF THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH PROVIDES ALL THE FINDINGS REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OR SEEQUA FOR THE TYPE 32 INFILL EXEMPTION.
THE LAYOUT INCLUDES A MAIN CENTRALIZED DRIVEWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PARCEL WITH VEHICLE ACCESSED VIA CYPRUS STREET AND ALL THEIR STREET.
THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THREE, THREE STORY BUILDINGS CONTAINING 10 UNITS ALONG THE NORTHERLY SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, AND SIX ALONG THE SOUTHERLY SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
THE UNIT BREAKDOWN INCLUDES 14 THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AND TWO, TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
THE UNITS HAVE A COMBINATION OF ENCLOSED PRIVATE PATIOS ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND BALCONIES ON THE THIRD FLOOR FACING NORTH AND SOUTH.
THE TOTAL PRIVATE OPEN SPACE PROVIDED FOR THE PROJECT IS 2,760 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES A COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PARCEL WITH AN APPROXIMATE AREA OF 1,590 SQUARE FEET.
THIS COMMON OPEN SPACE WILL BE IMPROVED WITH A SET OF PICNIC TABLES, TWO CHARCOAL, BARBECUE GRILLS, AND A SMALL TRASH RECEPTACLE FOR THE FEATURE TENANTS TO USE THE PROJECT EXCEEDS THE LAHABRA MUNICIPAL
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CODES REQUIREMENT.THIS IS REGARDS TO THE USABLE YARD AREA.
ZONING CODE REQUIRES THAT A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 2,250 SQUARE FEET OF USABLE YARD AREA.
THE PROJECT PROVIDES 2,760 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE.
IN ADDITION TO THE 1,590 SQUARE FEET OF COMMON FOR A COMBINED TOTAL OF 4,300 SQUARE FEET OF USABLE YARD AREA, THE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIRED R SIX, UH, SETBACKS, WHICH INCLUDE 10 FOOT OF SEPARATION FOR THE FIRST TWO FLOORS AND A 15 FOOT SEPARATION FOR THE THIRD FLOOR.
SO THIS IS ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES.
AND FOR PARKING, THE LAHABRA MUSIC CODE REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 55 ON-SITE PARKING SPACES.
THE BREAKDOWN INCLUDES, UH, THREE BEDROOMS PER UNIT, UH, WHICH TOTALS 42 SPACES AND TWO AND A HALF, UH, FOR GUESTS, WHICH, UH, OR ACTUALLY TWO AND A HALF FOR TWO BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH IS FIVE SPACES.
AND THEN THE GUESTS RATIO IS A HALF SPACE PER UNIT, WHICH EQUALS EIGHT.
SO THAT TOTAL IS 55 ONSITE PARKING SPACES.
THE DESIGN INCLUDES 32 SPACES WITHIN THE GARAGES ON THE GROUND FLOOR, A VAN ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND 12 CUPBOARD SPACES.
THESE ARE COVERED BETWEEN, UH, THE BUILDINGS BASED ON THE BUILDING'S DESIGN.
THEY CANNOT LEAVE HER OVER THE SPACES.
AND THEN NEAR ALDER STREET, THERE ARE 10 ONSITE PARKING SPACES WHICH ARE UNCOVERED.
SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS 55 ON-SITE PARKING SPACES.
OTHER ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THE, UH, STAMPED AND COLORED CONCRETE AT THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES, A TRASH ENCLOSURE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERLY SIDE OF THAT MAIN DRIVE AISLE.
AND THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE A SIX FOOT HIGH MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERLY PROPERTY LINE, ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, A SEVEN FOOT HIGH MASON NEAR WALL ALREADY EXISTS.
AND THAT'S, UH, PER THE BREO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
AND THE APPLICANT WILL TRY TO SAVE ALL THE MATURE TREES THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERLY SIDE, AS WELL AS PLANT NEW TREES TO SCREEN THE PROPERTY ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
THE FINAL NOTE IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE GATED.
IT WILL BE OPEN, UM, WITH NO GATES.
THE PROJECT IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE GATED.
IT WILL BE OPEN WITH NO GATES.
SO OTHER UNITS HAVE BEEN ATTACHED WITH A TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, A KITCHEN AND DINING AREA ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE BEDROOMS ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
THE UNIT SIZES RANGE FROM 1,407 SQUARE FEET TO THE LARGEST AT 3056 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS THE THIRD FLOOR DEPICTING THE BEDROOM LAYOUTS FOR THE UNITS.
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED WITH THE TWO UNITS LOCATED ALONG CYPRUS STREET, UH, WITH THEIR FRONT ENTRY DOORS FRONTING ON THE STREET.
THE MAIN CENTRALIZED DRIVEWAY IS 26 FEET WIDE.
IT WILL BE DESIGNATED AS A FIRE LANE, THE PROJECT SITE, THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF 39 OR THE TOTAL PARCEL AREA OF 39,986 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
UM, BASED ON THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 36 UNITS PER ACRE, THE GENERAL PLAN WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO 33 UNITS.
THAT'S THE MAXIMUM DENSITY BASED ON THE SIZE.
UM, THE PROJECT HAS ONLY PROPOSED AT 16 UNITS, WELL BELOW THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING.
THE PROJECT WAS ALSO SCREENED THROUGH THE NORTH ORANGE COUNTY COLLABORATIVE, THE BMT, WHICH IS THE VEHICLES MILES TRAVELED A TRAFFIC STUDY SCREENING TOOL.
SO VMT MEASURES THE PER CAPITA NUMBER OF CAR TRIPS GENERATED BY A PROJECT AND DISTANCES VEHICLES WILL TRAVEL TO AND FROM A PROJECT.
THE USE OF BMT FOR ANALYZING TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS EMPHASIZES THE REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS AND VEHICLES MILES TRAVELED TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF JOBS, HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL USES IN PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER AND YOUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO THE PROJECT WAS SCREENED THROUGH, AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA AND WITHIN A LOW VMT GENERATING ZONE, BASED ON THOSE TWO FACTORS, THAT PROJECT IS NOT SUBJECT TO A VMT ANALYSIS.
IN ADDITION, A AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS PREPARED AND
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WITHIN THE, UM, TRAFFIC PORTION, IT INCLUDED NUMBERS FROM THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS OR THE ITE AND THE PROPOSED 16 UNIT PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE 117 DAILY TRIPS WHILE THE EXISTING USES.THOSE ARE THE INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES GENERATE 56 DAILY TRIPS THAT NET CHANGE FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS 61 DAILY TRIPS TRAFFIC GENERATOR FROM THE PROJECT ALONG CYPRUS AND ALONG ALDRIDGE STREET FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS WILL BE MINIMAL.
LASTLY, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN URBANIZED AREA.
IT MEETS THE ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
IT PROVIDES SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, AND IT WILL BE SERVICED BY SANITARY, SEWER AND STORM DRAINS.
THEREFORE, THE SITE CAN BE ADEQUATELY SERVICED BY ALL REQUIRE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL BEGIN WITH A VICE-CHAIR MUNOZ, DAVID, THE DEDICATION YOU SAID ON THE 10 FEET THAT'S FOR SIDEWALK OFF OF, UM, CYPRUS.
THE PARCEL THE PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY OWNS CURRENTLY OWNS TO THE CURRENT FACE.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SIDEWALK AND THEN THE PARKWAY.
THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS? IS THAT A, IS THAT NORMAL DAVID THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE, UH, OWNERSHIP ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET? IT'S, IT'S RARE.
UM, SINCE THE PROJECT AREA HASN'T BEEN REDEVELOPED, UM, THIS INSTANCE INCLUDES THE OWNER OF THE ORIGINAL OWNERS OWNED TO THE CURRENT FACE, BUT WITH THE SIZE OF HIS PROJECT, UM, ENGINEERING REQUIRES THAT DEDICATION AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPROVED WITH NEW CURB, GUTTER SIDEWALK, UH, PARKWAY, TREES, AND ALL THE UTILITIES ALONG CYPRUS WITHIN THAT EASEMENT WILL BE REMOVED OR UNDERGROUND.
AND THEN THOSE AREAS WILL NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.
AND THERE'LL BE A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER GOING FORWARD.
AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS ARE APPROVAL, THERE ARE CCNRS AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IMPOSES THAT'S THE HOA MAINTAIN THE PARKWAY AREA AND THERE WOULD BE NO, I GUESS, DESIRE FROM THE CITY'S VANTAGE POINT TO LIKE REACQUIRE THAT AREA.
UH, WELL, THE, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE DEDICATING THAT 10 FEET TO THE CITY.
THAT'S THE PART THAT I MISSED.
SO THE CITY IS GOING TO GET THAT BACK.
AND THEN THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT THE DEVELOPER GOT IT.
PROPERTY OWNERS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE PARKWAY IN FRONT OF THE, GOT IT.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'S THE PART THAT I WAS LIKE, NOT, NOT CLEAR ON.
I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I I'LL THROW IT TO COMMISSIONER ROJAS.
UM, SO THE BREO DEVELOPMENT IS SOUTH OF IT.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE GRADING.
ARE THEY AT THE SAME GRADE? UH, THERE WAS A PLAN, A CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN BRING IT UP ONLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT SITUATION WHERE YOUR NEIGHBORS LOOKING INTO THE OTHER YARD.
I MEAN, GRANTED, I KNOW THEY'RE BOTH DEVELOPMENTS ARE GONNA BE THREE STORIES.
UM, AND I, I DID HEAR THAT IT'S A SEVEN FOOT WALL INSTEAD OF THE SIX, UM, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY INSTALLATION FROM EACH OTHER, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
THE BILLINGS WILL EXCEED THE SEVEN FOOT HIGH WALL, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN DESIGNED TO MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACKS WHERE THE THIRD FLOOR IS ACTUALLY CANTILEVERED OUTWARD OR INWARD.
SO IT'S NOT LOOMING AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY.
THESE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY AGAIN, THE SEVEN FOOT WALL, IS THAT ONLY ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THERE? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, THE SEVEN FOOT HIGH WALL WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE BREO PROJECT AND AS PART OF THE CONDITION, A SIX FOOT WALL, WHICH IS WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE NORTHERLY PROPERTY LINE, UM, ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND THEN EASTERN WEST, UH, THE EAST AND WEST N NO, THOSE WOULD BE LANDSCAPED
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AREAS.UM, IF THERE ARE ANY WALLS OR FENCES, THOSE ARE LIMITED TO THE MAX OF THREE FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THE ACT INTO THE PROPERTY IS ONLY GOING TO BE OFF OF CYPRESS.
IS THAT, AM I SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? UH, AND IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO THROUGH CYPRESS AND ALDRIDGE, SO YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS ON BOTH STREETS.
THAT'S WHAT I COULDN'T SEE ON MY SMALL VERSION HERE.
THERE'S A DRIVEWAY THAT'S COMING IN OFF OF ALDRICH.
AND THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO BE GATED AT ALL.
SO THE COMMUNITY ITSELF WILL NOT BE GATED.
YOU STATED THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHICH OF THE PARKING SPACES WOULD BE COVERED IN, WHICH WOULD BE UNCOVERED, IS THAT CLEAR ON HERE? AND I'M JUST MISSING THAT IT IS HARD TO DISTINGUISH WHICH ONES ARE COVERED.
SO THE GARAGES THEMSELVES ARE GOING TO BE FULLY ENCLOSED.
AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, THERE ARE SPACES THAT ARE NUMBERED STARTING FROM YOUR RIGHT THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, THAT ARE, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL GARAGE DOOR, BUT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE STRUCTURE IS, CAN HAVE LABORED OVER THOSE SPACES.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN, DAVID? SURE.
SO ON THE SITE, PLANET SHOWS PARKING SPACES, NUMBERS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT.
SO THOSE ARE OPEN, BUT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING AND THIRD FLOURISH ARE, KENNERLY READ OVER THOSE AREAS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE LIKE, UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE ELEVATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHEN I START CARPORT.
IT'S LIKE A, LIKE THIS, LIKE THAT LITTLE, YEAH.
ON THE AREA, YOU, YOU DON'T GET THAT.
YOU CAN'T REALLY GRASP THAT WHATSOEVER.
SO NOW I SEE THAT LITTLE CARDBOARD AREA.
NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN AND THAT CAR IS CLEARLY NOT IN LIKE A LITTLE CAR PORT AREA.
THAT'S MORE OF A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION OF THE MAIN DRIVE AISLE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE THAT WE WERE ON ORIGINALLY? PERFECT.
AND NOW ON THE BIGGER VERSION, I CAN SEE WHERE THAT VAN ACCESSIBLE.
UM, NOW ARE ANY OF THESE PARKING SPACES GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO UNITS OR WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE PLAN ON THAT? SURE.
UM, AS PART OF THE CCNRS WILL REQUIRE A PARKING PLAN.
THAT'S GOING TO SHOW WHICH SPACES ARE GOING TO BE DESIGNATED FOR THE UNITS THAT HAVE THE THREE BEDROOMS, WHICH SPACES WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS. AND THEN WHICH ONES WILL BE DESIGNATED FOR GUESTS.
YET IT WASN'T SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PACKAGE.
I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE, IF THAT, IF PARKING BECAME A CONCERN, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THOSE CARS WOULD GO, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WOULD BE CYPRESS AND I'D HATE FOR THEM TO BLEED OVER, LIKE ONTO, YOU KNOW, I'VE DRIVEN BY AND I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND, AND YOU KNOW, HOW IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE, THE PARKING CODE FOR THE CITY.
UM, BUT JUST DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THOSE, I GUESS, OTHER 23 SPACES AND WHERE THOSE ARE DEDICATED TO.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF A RESIDENT WERE TO USE THEIR TWO CAR GARAGE, UM, TO NOT PARK THEIR VEHICLES AND THEY HAD ADDITIONAL VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, THREE VEHICLES.
AND JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALLOCATION OF PARKING SPOTS TO SEE IF THERE WOULD BE ANY IMPACT, UM, THE PROPERTY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.
UH, BUT WE, WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT VIA THE CCNRS.
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THE HOA TO VERIFY THAT THE GARAGES ARE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR PARKING.
IN ADDITION, UH, ANOTHER CCNR CONDITION, UH, WILL PROHIBIT ANY OF THE FEATURE TENANTS TO OBTAIN AN OVERNIGHT PARKING PERMIT FOR PARKING ON CYPRESS OR ALDRIDGE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN PARKING ONSITE.
THAT'D BE A REQUIREMENT YOU'VE SAID, YEAH, THEY IT'S PART OF THE CCNRS.
AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND THAT, THAT THAT'S THE LANGUAGE IS IN THERE, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN AGREED TO, UH, THE LANGUAGE IS IN THERE.
AND SO FAR THE APPLICANT HASN'T, UH, PROVIDED ANY, UM, ANYTHING AGAINST THAT LANGUAGE.
UH, LET'S OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE THAT ARE HERE, WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
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GOOD.EVEN, UH, I'M THE PROJECT ARCHITECT.
UH, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CITY STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, UH, IF IT'S ON A TOOL DESIGN PROJECT IN CITY OF LA HABRA, THE STAFF REPORT IS SO COMPLETE AND DETAILED.
UH, I SAW, I DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO ADDRESS AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THE IB HA HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE.
COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, RICK? YEAH, I C K RICK.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT? OKAY.
UH, NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYBODY THAT'S HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
NOT THIS ONE IS THAT YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, SIR? LITTLE BOXES ON HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE AN OTHER, UM, ON OUR AGENDA.
SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST JUMP UP THERE NOW AND WE'LL HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE AND THEN WE DON'T GET TO HEAR YOU.
WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE MY PROPERTY IS.
THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE, CYPRESS AND SECOND AVENUE.
THE NORTH, UH, THAT'D BE THE NORTH EAST SIDE.
WOULD THAT BE THREE 30 CYPRUS? YES, SIR.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? YES.
MY NAME IS DAVID NIELSEN, N I E L S E N.
I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM GIVEN THE FACT THAT I HAVE THREE MINUTES, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD AN ADDRESSED, UH, HEARING THAT THE FENCE IS GOING TO BE SIX FEET ON MY PROPERTY AND HIGHER.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, I HAVE CONCERNS.
UM, I'VE LIVED THERE 20 YEARS.
IF YOU DRIVE BY MY HOUSE IS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
I'VE WORKED ON IT VERY HARD, UH, TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, PLEASINGLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I JOKINGLY REFER TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS .
UH, BUT I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS.
I'M HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE PARKING PERMITS FOR CYPRUS.
UH, ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WAS PURCHASED, THEY, WE HAD A SHADE TREE MECHANIC.
THERE WERE CARS, TRUCKS DELIVERED DAILY, AND NOW HE HAS BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ON SECOND AVENUE.
SO HE USES CYPRUS TO PARK ALL OF THESE VEHICLES DURING THE DAY AND MOVES THEM AT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELONG TO HIM.
I HEAR HIS AIR COMPRESSOR CONSTANTLY.
HE'S TWO DOORS, THREE DOORS DOWN ON CYPRUS FROM ME.
SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS THERE.
I HAVE SPOKE TO, UH, SERGEANT TORRES OVER THIS, NO REPLY.
UM, I HAVE THAT CONCERN, UH, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS, UH, WITHIN, I THINK A WEEK OF THE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF THOSE TWO HOUSES, OUR LOCAL SCAVENGERS MOVED IN, TOOK WATER HEATERS, TOOK DOORS, AND I HAPPENED TO HEAR HIM.
I LOOKED OVER THE FENCE AND SAW HIM HAULING DOORS OUT OF THERE.
NOW, UH, THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CONTRACTOR WHO, WHO, WHO THEY HAVE A SECURITY GUY LIVING IN ONE OF THE HOMES NOW, WHICH I FEEL BETTER ABOUT, CAUSE IT BORDERS MY PROPERTY.
UM, I'VE LIVED THERE BEFORE THEY PUT THE SIDEWALK IN.
SO I THINK THE MAPS WOULD SHOW, I OWN THE SIDEWALK.
I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD DEAL ON IT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS DETERIORATED.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO EXPAND MY PROPERTY VALUE, WENT UP EA, UH, BUT UH, ACROSS THE STREET IN YELLOW THERE, THE BIG PROPERTY, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THEY MOVED OUT.
ALL I GOT NOTICED ON THAT WAS THAT IT WAS LIGHT CONSTRUCTION.
IT ENDED UP BEING DEMOLITION AND IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
THEY WOULD BE DUMPING STUMPS AND BOULDERS INTO TRUCKS EARLY IN THE MORNING.
LUCKILY I GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IF HE FILED A COMPLAINT, NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT.
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YOU KNOW? UH, LET ME JUST LOOK AT MY NOTES REAL QUICK AND I'LL TRY AND WRAP IT UP HERE.I JUST MAINLY WANT COMMUNICATION WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, BEFORE I RETIRED FROM THE NORFOLK LAMAR SCHOOL DISTRICT, I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING MY JOB WAS TO DEVELOP ALL THE BIDS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
I WAS INVOLVED IN MODERNIZING 26 OF THEIR SCHOOLS, BUILDING SCIENCE, BUILDINGS, MEDIA BUILDINGS, AND SUCH.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SET OF THESE DRAWINGS THAT I SAW EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, MY MAIN CONCERN IS, UM, PUSHING 69 ON COMING OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF CANCER.
AND I JUST DON'T NEED ANY HEADACHES.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THE CONTRACTOR IS DEALING WITH SUBCONTRACTORS WHO JUST, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT THE MOST PLEASANT PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, WHEN THEY PUT IN THE NEW SIDEWALK NEXT TO MY HOUSE, THEY BROUGHT IN A BACKHOE.
THE SIDEWALKS WERE BEAUTIFUL ON MY PROPERTY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I JUST KNOW THE TRADES.
THEY SMASHED IT WITH THAT BACKHOE.
AND WHEN I COMPLAINED TO THE CONTRACTOR, HE LAUGHED AT ME.
I SAID, YOU CAN'T REPLACE THAT.
THAT'S THE SAND FINISHED THAT'S ART.
HE TURNS TO THE CONTRACTOR, SUBCONTRACTOR GOES, WELL, THIS GUY WANTS TO BE CASTLE.
SO IF THAT'S THE WAY I'M GOING TO BE TREATED AS A HOMEOWNER, I AIN'T GOING TO HAVE IT.
I'M NOT THIS GUY THAT RIDES AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
SO I JUST, I, I WANT SOME COMMUNICATION FROM THESE CONTRACTORS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, WHEN THEY BUILT THE BREO HOMES THAT CYPRUS WAS CLOSED FOR SEVERAL WEEKS BECAUSE THEY DISCOVERED SOMETHING UNDERGROUND THAT REQUIRED MAJOR CHANGE ORDERS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION CHANGE ORDERS AND JUST SET YOU BACK.
SO THAT'S MY THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
SO I MAY BE IN FEW FREE FUTURE COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LISTENING TO ME, MR. NIELSEN, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
UM, I KNOW THAT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND I THINK THE REST OF THE COMMISSION THAT I THINK WHEN WE SEE RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED IN ANY PROJECT IT'S APPRECIATED.
UM, SO THANKS FOR COMING DOWN HERE TONIGHT AND TAKING THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS.
I KNOW SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PURVIEW OF THIS PROCESS.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, PASS THOSE ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE LAW OF REPLACE DEPARTMENT AND THE APPROPRIATE PLACES.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION GOES, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK THE CONTRACTOR OWES COMMUNICATION TO ITS RESIDENTS.
AND, BUT I KNOW THAT STAFF, UH, CAN KIND OF BE THE INTERMEDIARY ON THAT FOR YOU.
SO PLEASE, ANY FUTURE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IF THE PROJECT DOES COME TO FRUITION, UM, PLEASE CONTACT THE BUILDING STAFF AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND I CAN SAY FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
UM, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT? OKAY.
AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
UM, ANYTHING COMMENTS BEFORE EMOTION? NO COMMENTS, NOTHING ELSE? NO.
I MAKE A MOTION, UH, APPROVING RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY OF THE HARBOR APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACK MAP.
19 1 5 5 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 16 UNIT RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 3 31 THROUGH 3 51 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET AND THREE 16 SOUTH ALBRIDGE STREET MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANT AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND, THE MOTION, EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO, AND THIS WILL BECOME FINE ON 10 WORKING DAYS, UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST MAKE THE NEXT ONE BY NAME? UM, I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING THE RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR, A PROVEN DESIGN REVIEW, 21 DASH ZERO FIVE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 16 RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 3 30, 1 33 51
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SOUTH CYPRESS STREET AND THREE 16 SOUTH ORANGE STREET MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND, THE MOTION, EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO, AND THIS WILL BECOME FINE WITH 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR TENTATIVE TRACK MAP, 19 1 5 6 AND DESIGN REVIEW 21 DASH ZERO SIX FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 UNIT RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT THREE 18 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, DAVID? THERE WE GO.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES DIRECTLY EAST OF THE 16 UNIT PROJECT THAT WE JUST CONSIDERED, UH, CROSSING CYPRESS STREET, THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION IS ALSO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY THREE, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 36 UNITS PER ACRE.
THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS ALSO R SIX.
UM, THE PROJECT SITE IS 27,245 SQUARE FEET IN AREA IT'S BEEN USED AS A LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS YARD SINCE 2012.
AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL REMOVE ALL THE ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 10 TOWN HOMES.
A TENTATIVE TRACK MAP FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES IS REQUESTED TO SUBDIVIDE THE AIRSPACE FOR THE 10 UNITS AND RELATED COMMON AREAS.
THE PROJECT SITE DOES HAVE A 10 FOOT WIDE SEWER EASEMENT.
THAT'S A CITY EASEMENT AND IT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY NEAR THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE AS DEPICTED ON THE TENTATIVE MAP, THE EASEMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT BOUNDARY.
UM, AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT HAS ALSO BEEN PREPARED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, UH, FOR THE TYPE 32 INFILL EXEMPTION.
THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT INCLUDES A CENTRALIZED DRIVEWAY AND THREE, THREE STORY DETACHED BUILDINGS, EACH CONTAINING TWO, THREE AND FIVE UNITS.
EACH UNIT WILL HAVE AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND THIS PROJECT SITE WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 20 ON-SITE PARKING SPACES.
UM, A VAN ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE AND 14 UNCOVERED, UH, SPACES ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY FOR A TOTAL OF 35 SPACES.
UH, THE PROPOSED PROJECT MEETS OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, UM, WITH THE 35 ON-SITE SPACES, FIVE OF WHICH WILL BE DESIGNATED GUEST PARKING SPACES.
UH, EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A PRIVATE PATIO LOCATED ON THE GROUND LEVEL NEAR THE UNITS FRONT DOOR.
THE TOTAL PRIVATE OPEN SPACE FOR THIS PROJECT IS 1,490 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE PROJECT INCLUDES TWO COMMON OPEN SPACE AREAS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF THE LOT.
UM, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE AREAS WILL BE IMPROVED WITH PICNIC TABLES, BARBECUES AND TRASH RECEPTACLES.
THEY'RE COMBINED AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 1,747 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SIMILARLY THIS PROJECT ALSO, UH, MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE LA HOPPER MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENT FOR USABLE YARD AREA.
THE CODE REQUIRES A 1,750 SQUARE FEET.
THAT PROJECT PROVIDES A COMBINED TOTAL OF 3,237 SQUARE FEET.
ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE STAMPED COLORED CONCRETE AT THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE, UH, TREAT WELLS AND WITHIN THE UNCOVERED PARKING SPACES AND WALL MOUNTED TRELLISES ALONG BUILDING H NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, A TRASH ENCLOSURE IS ALSO LOCATED NEAR THE EASTERLY PROPERTY LINE.
THE PROJECT WILL BE CONDITIONED TO HAVE A SIX FOOT HIGH MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERLY EASTERLY AND WESTERLY PROPERTY LINES.
UM, IN ADDITION, UH, ITALIAN CYPRESS TREES ARE PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED ALONG THOSE, UH, ELEVATIONS, NORTHERLY AND EASTERLY, UH, TO HELP, UM, SCREEN THE PROPERTY FROM THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS ALSO NOT PROPOSED TO BE GATED, SO IT WILL REMAIN OPEN WITHOUT THE USE OF VEHICLE GATES.
THE FLOORPLANS DEPICTED SHOWING THE KITCHEN AND DINING AREAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UH, THE UNIT SIZES RANGE FROM,
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UH, APPROXIMATELY 2100 SQUARE FEET TO THE LARGEST AT 2300 SQUARE FEET.AND THAT'S THE THIRD FLOOR SHOWING THE BEDROOMS. UM, THE GENERAL PLAN ALLOWS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 36 UNITS PER ACRE.
BASED ON THIS SIZE OF THE PARCEL, A MAXIMUM OF 22 UNITS IS POSSIBLE.
HOWEVER, THE DEVELOPERS ONLY PROPOSING 10, UH, NO WAIVERS OR DEVIATIONS FROM THE ZONING CODE ARE REQUESTED AS PART OF THE PRACTICE DESIGN.
AND SIMILARLY, THE PROJECTS, UH, UNITS THAT ARE FRONTING ALONG CYPRUS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED WITH THEIR FRONT DOORS ORIENTED TOWARDS CYPRUS OR FACING FRONT, UH, CYPRUS.
THAT PROJECT ALSO HAS BEEN DESIGNED WITH THE REQUIRED SETBACKS, UH, 10 FEET FOR THE FIRST TWO FLOORS AND 15 FEET FOR THE THIRD FLOOR.
AND THIS IS ALONG THE NORTHERLY AND SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINES.
UH, THE REAR SETBACKS ARE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE AS THE COATS REQUIRES A 15 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE FIRST TWO FLOORS AND A 20 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE THIRD FLOOR.
AND THE PROJECT'S DESIGN HAS TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THEIR PROJECT WAS ALSO SCREENED THROUGH THE, UH, BMT, THE VEHICLES MILES TRAVELED THE NORTH ORANGE COUNTY COLLABORATIVE A SCREENING TOOL.
AND ACCORDING TO THE SCREENING TOOL, THE PROJECT AREA IS LOCATED WITHIN A TRANSIT PRIORITY AREA AND WITHIN A LOW BMT GENERATING ZONE, BASED ON THOSE TWO FACTORS, THE PROJECT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ABMT ANALYSIS.
THE PROJECT'S ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, UM, ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE ANTICIPATED TRIP GENERATION AND THE PROPOSED 10 UNIT PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE 70, 73 DAILY TRIPS, UH, COMPARING THAT TO THE EXISTING STORAGE YARD, WHICH GENERATES 41 DAILY TRIPS.
THE NATURE CHANGE FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS 32 DAILY TRIPS TRAFFIC GENERATED FROM THE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE TWO NEW YEAR'S INTERSECTIONS WILL EXPERIENCE MINIMAL IMPACTS DURING, UH, AM M PEAK HOUR PERIODS.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE.
ACTUALLY BOTH PROJECTS WERE SUBMITTED PRIOR.
THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES DEVELOPERS, UH, PROJECTS WITH 10 OR MORE UNITS TO SET ASIDE 15% OF THE TOTAL UNITS AS AFFORDABLE, VERY LOW OR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME UNITS OR PAY AN EQUIVALENT IN LOOFY THE ORDINANCE SPECIFIES THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH 10 OR MORE UNITS SUBMITTED AFTER JULY 1ST, 2021 ARE SUBJECT TO THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE.
UH, BOTH PROJECTS WERE SUBMITTED, UH, PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE BECOMING EFFECTIVE.
UH, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN AN URBANIZED AREA.
THE PROJECT DESIGN PROVIDES SUFFICIENT ONSITE ACCESS PARKING, AND, UH, WILL BE SERVICED BY A SANITARY SEWER AND STORM DRAINS AND CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES ALONG CYPRESS STREET.
UM, THEREFORE IT CAN ADEQUATELY BE SERVICED BY ALL THE REQUIRE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, DAVID, AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU, OUR STAFF, VICE CHAIR MUNOZ.
IS IT THE SAME ARCHITECT AS ACROSS THE STREET? YES.
SO IS THE DESIGN INTENTIONAL FOR IT TO BE THE SAME? CORRECT.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR, SO IT'S HARMONIOUS OR WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND, UH, THERE WASN'T AN ARCHITECTURAL DISTRICT IN THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE CITY.
AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO HAVE A MATCHING ARCHITECTURE.
UM, IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER AND SAME ARCHITECT FOR BOTH PROJECTS.
UH, THAT'S IT FOR ME ON QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ROJAS, UM, SINCE IT IS THE SAME ARCHITECTURE.
SO IN ESSENCE, BOTH PROJECTS WILL BE ON THE SAME TIMELINE, CONSTRUCTION WISE, THAT'S THE ANTICIPATED.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN ABOUT THE WALL.
SO THE SOUTHERN WALL ON THIS ONE IS ALSO SIX FEET OR SEVEN FEET.
UH, THIS ONE IS A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL, SO ALL AROUND.
SO MAY I ASK WHY WAS SEVEN FEET ON SOUTH WITH THE OTHER ONE, BUT ONLY SIX ON THIS ONE, SINCE IT'S IN ESSENCE, AN EXTENSION OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE SEVEN FOOT WALL ALONG THE OTHER SIDE WAS, UH, IN PART FROM THE BREO PROJECT.
AT THAT TIME WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED, UM, FOR IT, MIGHT'VE BEEN TO SCREEN THAT PROJECT FROM THE INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH, A SEVEN FOOT WALL WAS CONSTRUCTED.
UM, SO THAT SEVEN FOOT WALL WILL EXIST, WILL STILL REMAIN.
IT'S JUST THAT THE, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN CYPRUS IS ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHO, WHAT NEIGHBORS ON THE SOUTH AGAIN? SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY AN
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EASY WAY OR AN EASEMENT.IS THAT AN EASEMENT OR IS THAT AN ACTUAL PARCEL? CAN THAT BE DEVELOPED OR ALONG THE SOUTHERN SETTLED SIDE? I MEAN, CURRENTLY THERE'S NOTHING THERE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A PARCEL THAT IS ALSO ZONED R SIX.
SO IT DOES HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTIFAMILY ON THAT, THAT PARCEL.
WAS IT A RIGHT AWAY BEFORE, OR IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A REMNANT, UM, UH, FROM THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.
DO YOU, DO WE KNOW WHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS FOR THAT? I BELIEVE IT'S BLUE.
THE ANSWER IS THEORETICALLY OUR, I MEAN OUR SIX, IT COULD BE DEVELOPED AT, AT ANY POINT.
UM, I, I THINK HEARING WHAT, I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF IN RELATION TO THE FENCE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER ROJAS BRINGS UP.
I THOUGHT I HEARD ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, PART OF THE FENCE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE SEVEN FEET WAS BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTS IS SOUTH OF THE PROJECT.
UH, DID I MISS THAT? AND NOW IT WAS STATED THAT IT HAD SOME CORRELATION TO THE BREO PROJECT.
MAYBE I CAN CHIME IN SINCE THAT WAS MY PROJECT.
SO IT WAS PART OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN REQUIREMENTS, AND IT WAS A LITTLE TALLER IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING OR BUSINESSES EXISTED AT THE TIME.
AND IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO DO AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER BECAUSE YOU HAD CONTRACTORS YARDS, IT STARTED CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT EARLY IN THE MORNING.
UM, SO THEY WERE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT LITTLE, LITTLE EXTRA NOISE BREAK RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
UM, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CONSISTENCY, UH, IN THE DESIGN AND THE ARCHITECTURE.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT IF AT SOME POINT, I MEAN, AND MAYBE DAVID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THIS, BUT IF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WERE TO EVER BE DEVELOPED, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT IN THAT PROCESS COULD HAPPEN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE SIZE OF THAT WALL? UM, IS, IS THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE, IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING FOR THE CONSISTENCY, UH, HAVING THAT SOUTHERN WALL AT SEVEN FEET WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE THAN HAVING ONE SIDE OF CYPRUS B SEVEN AND THE OTHER SIDE BE SIX.
AND THEN HERE WE FIND OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND THERE'S A PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED AND THERE'S GOING TO BE HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND HERE WE GO ALL OVER AGAIN, IS MY QUESTION, MAKING SENSE, ROY W WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS THAT PROJECT COME IN, BUT THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENT IS SIX FEET.
THE SEVEN WAS THE UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE, WE REQUIRE A SIX FOOT BLOCK WALLS.
AND JUST ADDITIONALLY INFORMATION THAT PARCELS YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO THE SOUTH, THOSE TWO ARE ACTUALLY COMBINED.
IT'S NOT THAT ONE SKINNY PARCEL BY ITSELF.
THAT, THAT ONE JUST BELOW IT, AS PART OF THAT SAME OWNERSHIP, CAN WE REQUEST THAT THEY CONSIDER SOME FOOT A WHILE JUST IN ORDER TO ALIGN AGAIN? I MEAN, FOR ME, IT'S CONSISTENCY AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A REFLECTION OF WHAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND ANYTHING'S FAIR GAME, UM, THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE MAP UP.
UM, BUT THAT PARCEL GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO HARBOR.
IT'S A VERY LONG, SKINNY REMNANT RAILROAD PROPERTY THAT, THAT YOU SAID GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS THEY'RE HALF MILE LONG I'M REQUESTING FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT.
SO, I MEAN, CURRENTLY YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A SEVEN FOOT WALL GRAD ACROSS THE STREET, SO CAN WE JUST MATCH IT? THAT'S IF WE CAN REQUEST, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MATCH IT, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED A ZONE VARIANCE TO DO THAT.
SO YOU COULDN'T CONSIDER THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY SAID THE CODE STANDARD IS SIX, THE SEVEN WAS PART OF A SPECIFIC PLAN.
SO IT WAS CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, EVEN ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE JUST APPROVED.
IT WAS PART OF THIS, WELL, IT'S AN EXISTING WALL.
THIS, THE CENTRAL WALL IS ALREADY THERE, SO NOTHING'S GETTING CONSTRUCTED ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, DID THE SAME ZONING, CORRECT? YES.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, I GET WHERE STUFF IS COMING FROM IN THE SENSE THAT THAT EXISTING WALL WAS JUST, I'M ASSUMING LIKE A SPECIAL CONDITION OF SOME SORT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGING LAND USE AT THAT TIME.
AND I THINK NOW, BECAUSE IT'S GETTING DEVELOPED AND IT'S GETTING CLOSER TO CONFORMANCE THE WALLS, JUST STAYING THERE, BUT
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I DO GET WHAT COMMISSIONER WAS SAYING AS FAR AS THE CONSISTENCY.AND I MEAN, HOW LONG HAS THAT LOT BEEN BEACON? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME, RIGHT.
THE ONE TO THE SOUTH, TO THE SOUTH 50 YEARS PLUS.
I MEAN, I KNOW NOW IT'S TIME TO BUILD.
BUT THE ONLY THING IS, I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME ZONING AND I MEAN, LIKE YOU STATED, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF WAY OF INCREASING THAT WITHOUT GETTING A VARIANCE.
I SAID, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S A CONCERN, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS THE, AS THE NEXT PROJECT COMES IN AND THEY CAN DESIGN IT AS PART OF THEIR, AS THEIR PART OF THEIR PROJECT.
THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
I THINK COMMISSIONER ROJAS AND I WERE OF THE MIND THAT THE OTHER PROJECT WAS CONSTRUCTING A SEVEN FOOT WALL THERE AND I WAS NOT MISSING WELL, WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO THE SAME HERE THAT IT JUST MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, BUT, UM, THANK YOU, ROY.
UM, EXCUSE ME, SHERIFF, MAYBE IT'S FOR MY BENEFIT, CAN PLANNING STUFF, JUST CONFIRM THAT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED HEIGHT WE'RE TALKING MAXIMUM IS SIX FEET.
SO TO DO ANYTHING ABOVE SIX FEET IS NOT IN A COAT.
AND SO, AND THAT'S WHY IT WOULD REQUIRE A ZONE VARIANCE TO GO ABOUT.
UM, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
DO THE DRIVEWAYS LINE UP ON BOTH OF THE PROJECTS, LIKE WHEN YOU WOULD PUT BOTH OF THE PROJECTS OR ARE THEY LIKE OFFSET? YEAH, THEY DO NOT ACTUALLY THIS, THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS THE DRIVEWAY TOWARDS THE NORTHERLY END AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS NEAR THE SOUTHERLY END.
I'M JUST WONDERING THAT'S IT FOR ME? SORRY.
UM, I'M JUST, I'M PROCESSING SOMETHING, DAVID.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE THAT ARE HERE THAT WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
CNN, WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PRODUCT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
NOW, CAN I SEE, AND NONE, UM, THIS TIME THE COMMISSION WILL I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE COMMISSION CAN DISCUSS AND OR MAKE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA, APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACK MAP 1 9 1 5 6 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 UNIT RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT 3, 1 8 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
AND I'LL SECOND, THE MOTION, EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO, AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEAL TO CITY.
I MAKE A MOTION PROVE AND RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 21 DASH ZERO SIX FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 10 UNIT RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT AT THREE 18 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS IN SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL SECOND, EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO, AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIRD ITEM TONIGHT IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 21 DASH ZERO FIVE TO ESTABLISH A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL MUSIC LEARNING CENTER AT 5 0 1 NORTH HARBOR BOULEVARD.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? WE DID THIS MORNING.
WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM, LET ME FIND HIS NAME.
THIS IS HENRY LEE OWNER OF 6 0 5 NORTH HARBOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE CONDITIONER USE PERMIT OF THE MUSIC SCHOOL AT FIVE ONE NORTH HARBOR.
IT WOULD HELP REVITALIZE THE BLOCK.
HENRY LEE IS THAT HENRY LEE AND HE WAS AT 6 0 5 NORTH HARBOR.
THAT'S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? VERONICA OR DAVID.
THE ENTIRE BLOCK OF NORTH HARBOR IS A CP, UH, COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA? WHAT 6 0 5.
IS THAT A PICTURE? THAT IN MY MIND, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, CORRECT? RIGHT THERE.
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OKAY.AND THEN THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TONIGHT IS 5 0 1 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND THEN DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES.
UM, SO BOAZ RHYTHM AND MUSIC CENTER IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CUP TO OPERATE A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HARBOR AND FRANCIS AVENUE.
ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THAT ENTIRE BLOCK IS CP COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL.
THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH WEST AND SOUTHWEST OF THE PARCEL.
THE PROPERTIES IMPROVED WITH A 1,975 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERLY HALF OF THE LOT.
THE PROPERTY HAS SEVEN ONSITE PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE ACCESSED VIA 20 FOOT WIDE ALLEY.
UH, ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE, THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL SCHOOL ACTIVITIES WILL TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
UM, THE SCHOOL IS, UH, IDENTIFIED, UM, AS BOAZ WHERE THE MUSIC CENTER, WHICH PROVIDE CLASSES THAT INCLUDE RHYTHM GYM, MUSIC, TAEKWONDO, A NON-TOP DRUM AND PRIVATE DRUM LESSONS.
THE CLASSES FOR RHYTHM GYM, MUSIC, TAEKWONDO, AND NON TAD DRUM WILL BE LIMITED TO A MAX OF EIGHT STUDENTS WHILE PRIVATE DRUM LESSONS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO STUDENTS.
UH, THE RHYTHM GYM IS DESCRIBED AS A WORKOUT THAT INCORPORATES JUMPING AND CLAPPING.
UM, MUSIC TAEKWONDO INCORPORATES MUSIC AND RHYTHM WITH TAEKWONDO TRAINING AND NON TAD DRUM IS DESCRIBED AS AN ENERGETIC DRUM SESSION WITH A GROUP OF DRUMMERS CLASSES WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL AGE GROUPS AND THE FACILITY WILL ALSO OFFER ONLINE, UH, OR VIRTUAL CLASSES.
SO PURSUANT TO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, UM, ANY PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT TO A DISCRETIONARY ACTION IS REQUIRED TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CURRENT CODE STANDARDS, TO THE EXTENT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UH, IT HAS TWO VARIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED IN THE SEVENTIES FOR THE REDUCTION OF THE FRONT AND STREET SIDE SETBACKS, WHICH LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF ONSITE LANDSCAPING.
UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS MADE AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE, UH, ONSITE LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AREA BY, UH, INCLUDING LANDSCAPE PLANTERS WITH VINE POCKETS.
OUR MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES, UH, ONSITE LANDSCAPING IN THE, IN THE SUM OF 141 SQUARE FEET OR 7%.
AND BASED ON THE MODIFICATIONS, WE WILL ADD APPROXIMATELY 91 SQUARE FEET OR 4%.
IT'S STILL BELOW THE MINIMUM, BUT THEY HAVE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO COMPLY.
AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL SCHOOLS IS BASED ON THE STUDENTS.
UM, FOR EIGHT STUDENTS, OUR PARKING REQUIREMENT IS THREE SPACES.
SO THE PROPERTY IS IMPROVED WITH A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
THEREFORE IT IS PHYSICALLY SUITABLE FOR THE REQUESTED WE USE THE, UM, PROPOSED USE WILL OPERATE SIX DAYS A WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, UH, FIVE CLASSES EACH DAY.
EACH SESSION IS APPROXIMATELY 45 MINUTES IN DURATION WITH 15 MINUTE BREAKS IN BETWEEN.
UH, THE CLASSES ARE THE, THE SCHEDULE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BEGIN AT 2:00 PM WITH A CO WITH THE LAST CLASS ENDING AT 6:45 PM.
UM, I DID RECEIVE, UH, CLARIFICATION ON THESE REQUESTED HOURS, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH.
UM, SO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THE FIRST CLASS BEGINS AT 2:00 PM.
THE LAST CLASS ENDS AT 6:45 PM.
THE GROUP CLASSES, WHICH INCLUDE THE RHYTHM GYM, MUSIC, TAEKWONDO, AND NON DRUM.
THOSE WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE AFTERNOON BETWEEN 2:00 PM AND 4:45 PM.
AND THEN THE DRUM, THE PRIVATE DRUM CLASSES TAKE PLACE BETWEEN 5:00 PM AND 6:45 PM.
UH, SATURDAY CLASS SCHEDULE INCLUDES THE SAME FIVE CLASSES.
THE FIRST CLASS STARTING AT 10:00 AM AND THE LAST CLASS ENDING AT 2 45.
UH, THE FACILITY WILL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS AND THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE ONE TO THREE EMPLOYEES ONSITE.
THE BUILDING'S INTERIOR LAYOUT INCLUDES THE MAIN CLASSROOMS, A DRUM RECORDING ROOM AND DRUM SHOWROOM.
THEY'RE ALL LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERLY END OF THE BUILDING AWAY FROM THE ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH.
THE FLOOR PLAN INCLUDES A KITCHEN RESTROOMS BREAK ROOM, STUDY ROOM, A RECEPTION
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AREA, AND THOSE ARE ALL LOCATED ALONG THE NORTHERLY END OF THE BUILDING.UH, THE MAIN ACCESS IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER AND THE ENTRYWAY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A GLASS STOREFRONT WINDOW.
AND THAT'LL SHOWCASE THE DRUM KIT THAT'S PROPOSED, UH, RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.
THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO MUSIC INSTRUCTION IS APPROXIMATELY 771 SQUARE FEET OR 39% OF THE OVERALL BUILDING AREA.
AND THE AREAS WHERE THE ACTUAL MUSIC INSTRUCTION WILL TAKE PLACE.
THEY WILL BE RETROFITTED WITH SOUND ABSORPTION INSTALLATION.
UM, THE FACILITY ALSO INCLUDE A DRUM KIT OR DRUM ISOLATION, KIT, OR BOOTH, AND THAT'LL ENCLOSE THE ENTIRE DRUM KIT TO CONTAIN THE NOISE.
UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED, UH, CUP, UH, CONDITIONS INCLUDE REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO KEEP THE DOORS CLOSED DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITY WERE TO RECEIVE NOISE COMPLAINTS, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO, WILL BE REQUIRED TO HIRE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL THAT WILL PREPARE AN ACOUSTICAL ANALYSIS OR A NOISE STUDY.
UM, WITH THAT NOISE STUDY, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO EMPLOY AND IMPLEMENT ANY MITIGATION MEASURES AS OUTLINED IN THAT NOISE STUDY AND AS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DIVISION.
SO WITH THE PROPOSED INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THE OPERATION OF THE COMMERCIAL SCHOOL WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE.
UM, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT FINAL CONDITION THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WOULD JUST BE INDEFINITE AS LONG AS THAT CUP IS IN USE, THAT CONDITION WILL STAND.
WE'LL CALL THEM THE BREAST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF.
UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THE PARKING, YOU SAID IT'S, UH, THREE STALLS FOR EVERY EIGHT STUDENTS, RIGHT.
AND THEN THE AGE RANGE IS ALL AGE RANGE OR IS IT MORE SPECIFIC TO LIKE, UM, K THROUGH 12 AND THEN THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET DROPPED OFF AND THEN PICKED UP THE FACILITY WILL BE FOR ALL H GROWERS.
AND THEN, UM, DO THEY PLAN ON HAVING ANY TYPE OF MUSIC EVENTS, LIKE A RECITAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, PART OF THE OPERATION, UH, IT WASN'T IDENTIFIED, BUT WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT AND THE OPERATOR PRESENT, AND MAYBE IT WOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AND THEN THERE IS A BREAK IN BETWEEN THE CLASSES, RIGHT.
BECAUSE I THINK YOU, YOU KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE SCHEDULE, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE FAST, A 15 MINUTE IN BETWEEN EACH CLASS.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW, ONE OTHER QUESTION ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT WAS THERE.
WE KNOW IT'S THERE, UH, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.
IF THAT'S A BUSINESS THAT'S CURRENTLY AN OPERATION OR IS IT JUST A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT? THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS A RESIDENCE.
AND THEN THE SOUTH IS ALSO LIKE ACROSS THE STREET IS ALSO RESIDENT.
AND IS THAT ALSO A MIXED, IT'S A COMBINATION.
SO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS CROSSING FRANCIS, UH, RIGHT AT THE HEART CORNER IS THE CYCLERY.
UM, I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.
WE WILL, UH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HEAR FROM ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.
A L E X W O O FROM GENESIS CONSULTING, INC.
UM, I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING MR. LOPEZ.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH MR. LOPEZ AND KUBOTA CASES IN THIS GREAT CITY OF LA HABRA, AND HE'S THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL ALONG WITH OTHER STAFF, BUT, UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND JUST THANK MR. LOPEZ FOR ALL HIS TIME AND EFFORT WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH DAVID, HE'S VERY THOROUGH.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY FILED THIS CASE BACK IN AUGUST OF 2021.
AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S AND TURN OVER EVERY ROCK POSSIBLE.
WE WENT THROUGH VARIOUS PHASES AND MADE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT THE COMMISSION OR THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS, ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE.
SO WE FEEL THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT AND, UM, THAT'S BEEN STIPULATED.
WE ARE IN FULL CONCURRENCE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
UM, AS DAVID HAD MENTIONED DURING HIS PRESENTATION, UM,
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WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD REQUEST TO HAVE THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WAS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.UM, AT THE PRESENT TIME WHEN, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE HAD FILED THIS APPLICATION BACK IN AUGUST OF 2021, UH, WE THOUGHT THAT THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
UH, BUT SINCE ABOUT SIX MONTHS HAS PASSED, UH, MR. PARK, WHO IS THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THE BUSINESS WHO IS HERE, UH, KIND OF ENVISIONS THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME GROWTH WITHIN THE BUSINESS.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE THESE AMENDED HOURS, UH, BE REFLECTED IN THE, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OR THE CONDITIONS.
UM, THE MENDED HOURS THAT WE WILL LIKE TO PROPOSE ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 1:00 PM TO 7:45 PM.
AND ON SATURDAY 9:00 AM TO 5:45 PM.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL STILL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.
AND JUST TO JUST KIND OF TOUCH ON THIS TO WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THE EXPANSION OF THE, UM, HOURS IS BECAUSE WE ENVISIONED THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE GROWTH IN THE BUSINESS.
AND, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, WERE FULL TRANSPARENT AND WE WERE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY REVISION OR ANY AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THE CONDITION COULD RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER AND, UH, APPROVE, UH, ONCE AGAIN, UM, I THINK THAT ALL THE CONDITIONS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, HEARING TO, OR WE'RE ADDRESSING ANY CON UH, ANY POTENTIAL NOISE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS OR ANY OF THE PARKING ISSUE.
OH, JUST TO ADDRESS, UH, COMMISSIONER MUNOZ, THE QUESTION IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF LIMITED TO K THROUGH 12.
WE DON'T ENVISION ANY ADULTS PARTAKING IN THIS BECAUSE AS YOU NOTED, THIS IS MORE FOR YOUTH.
UM, CURRENTLY MR. PARK, UM, IS VISITING VARIOUS NURSERIES AND PRESCHOOLS.
SO HE'S BEEN DOING THIS ABOUT 10 YEARS, UH, IN THE GREATER LOS ANGELES, AS WELL AS ORANGE COUNTY REGION.
AND HE'S LOOKING INTO JUST KIND OF SERVICING THE FAMILIES OF THE YOUNGER KIDS THAT HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH.
SO THEIR OLDER SIBLINGS, SUCH AS THE ONES IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MAYBE UP TO HIGH SCHOOL, BUT NOT EVEN THEN.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE LIMITED TO K THROUGH 12.
SO THOUGH THUS, THEY WILL BE DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP BY THEIR PARENTS.
SO THERE WILL BE VERY MINIMAL, UH, NEED FOR PARKING ON THE PREMISES DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS.
UM, THERE WILL BE NO RECITAL, UH, PER TAKING.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE PRIVATE LESSONS, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST GIVEN TO THE STUDENTS AS THEY INDIVIDUALLY COME IN OR IN A GROUP SETTING.
AND THE PARENTS AT THE PRESENT TIME BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING COVID, UM, RESTRICTIONS ARE, WE ARE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DROP OFF THE STUDENTS AND PICK THEM UP AFTER THE SESSION IS COMPLETED.
SO THERE'LL BE NO SPECTATORS OR NO, UH, PARENTS PER SE AT THE PRESENT TIME THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, ONSITE.
UM, WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT IT, WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I MAY ANSWER FOR THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? UH, ONE MORE QUESTION.
THE FLOOR PLAN NEXT TO THE LARGER, UH, MUSIC ROOM.
IT WAS, UH, LIKE THE RECORDING ROOM, RIGHT? THAT'D BE ON RECORDING.
ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT AS A STANDALONE SERVICE FOR SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO GO IN AND RECORD MUSIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO.
SO WOULD IT BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LESSON? YES, SIR.
UM, THIS IS NOT WHERE WE ARE ENVISIONING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE RENTING OUT.
THESE ROOMS IS STRICTLY FOR THE STUDENTS AND ALL THE, UM, UH, THE INSTRUMENT AND ALL THE, THE, THE TEACHING AND EVERYTHING IS STRICTLY UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF MR. PARK AND HIS STAFF.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN WHERE ANYONE COULD JUST RENT AND COME IN AND DO WHATEVER.
SO, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE, AS YOU COULD NOTE, UM, AND BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN NINE TO FIVE, OR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN FOR EXTENSIVE POWERS.
IT'S KIND OF BE VERY LIMITED AND THOSE SLOTS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH ALREADY SPOKEN FOR.
SO WE DON'T ENVISION THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR THE BUSINESS.
ANYBODY HERE, ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT.
IF YOU COULD JUST BEGIN BY STATING YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME, UM, FOR THE RECORD.
I LIVE AT 5 0 1 NORTH HARBOR, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE PROPOSED MUSIC LEARNING CENTER.
SO MY CONCERNS, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I AM CONCERNED
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IN THE PAST.WE'LL SAY EIGHT MONTHS, THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY ACCIDENTS THAT ARE EITHER LANDED IN MY PROPERTY OR THEIR PROPERTY OR IN FRONT OF THE BICYCLE STOP SHOP DIRECTLY ACROSS FRANCES OR INTO THE FRONT OF THE BICYCLE SHOP ITSELF.
MS. SPENCER, ARE YOU AT 5 0 5 0 5? I'M SORRY.
UM, IT'S JUST VERY CONCERNING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS OUT THERE.
I'VE RAISED MY KIDS IN THIS HOUSE.
WE DON'T PLAY ON HARBOUR EVER.
THREE WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS A CAR THAT FLIPPED AND ROLLED AND LANDED IN FRONT OF THE BIKE SHOP.
SIX MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A CAR IN MY YARD FROM THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES SO FAST THAT THEY DON'T OBEY THE SPEED SIGNS AT ALL.
WE'VE ASKED FOR A LIGHT AT FRANCES, BECAUSE EVEN ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T MAKE A LEFT OUT OF FRANCIS GOING NORTH ON A HARBOR OVER.
I WILL GO THROUGH THE BACKS AND I WILL GO UP TO WHAT ARE YOUR BOULEVARD? I WOULD GO DOWN TO STEARNS.
THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE ALSO HAVE, AND I'VE CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT DRUG USE IN THEIR PROPERTY OR IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY TO THE POINT WHERE I GET NAUSEATED FROM PEOPLE SMOKING WEED THERE, I'VE TALKED WITH MIKE AND HE'S LIKE, YES, CALL THE COPS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THE PARKING, AS IT STANDS TODAY, IT IS LINED FROM THE CORNER OF FRANCIS ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO WITH PEOPLE DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THE ALLEY TO DROP OFF KIDS, PICK THEM UP, WHICH AFFECTS ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO DRIVEWAY ON THE HARBOR.
UM, BEFORE WE BUILT OUR OFFENSE IN THE BACK, WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON OUR PROPERTY THAT DIDN'T LIVE THERE.
THEY WOULD GO TO THE BIKE SHOP OR TO THE 5 0 1, BUT THEY WOULD PARK ON OUR PROPERTY.
SO WE REQUESTED A PERMIT AND BUILT A FENCE BECAUSE OF THIS.
I I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE KIDS, THE ACCIDENTS, AND NO LIGHT BEING THAT I HAVE KIDS.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE MUSIC CONCEPT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT MY BEDROOM BEING 25 FEET FROM THE MUSIC SCHOOL? I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT TOO.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU, MS. SPENCER, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND SHARING THAT WITH US.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND A CALL ON THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION OR EMOTION.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS MAYBE FOR STAFF, THE ENTRANCE INTO, UH, THE MUSIC SCHOOL, UH, IS ONLY FROM THE BACK FROM THE WEST SIDE.
IS THAT ACCURATE DAVID? THE, THE MAIN ENTRY, SORRY.
THE MAIN INSURER IS ACTUALLY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'D BE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO OTHER ENTRYWAYS, ONE NEAR FRANCIS AVENUE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, UM, IN THE PARKING LOT AREA.
SO THE, THE CONCEPT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BRINGING A LITTLE ONE THERE K THROUGH 12 WOULD HAVE YOU PARK GET OUT, WALK THEM TO ALONG THE WALKWAY ON THE YEP.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT THAT'S ONE INCH YOUR WAY.
THEY ALSO HAVE AN ENTRYWAY HERE AND THEN AN ENTRY WAY HERE.
MAYBE JUST, IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE VISION FROM HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GUIDE, UM, YOUR FAMILIES? WHAT, YEAH, PLEASE.
JUST, JUST TO POINT OUT THE, UH, THE LONG DISTANCE PATH OF TRAVEL YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE CODE REQUIRED, ADA ACCESSIBLE, UM, ENTRANCE.
SO THAT OTHER ENTRANCE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, OR THERE'S A STEP THAT THEY
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COULD CERTAINLY GO IN THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE, IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE NEED, THE RAMP AND THEN GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION.AND THEN BY LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLAN, I THINK OPERATIONALLY SPEAKING, THEY WOULD GO INTO THE RECEPTION.
THEY WOULD CHECK IN WITH SOMEONE AND THEN KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
CAUSE THE ONE DIRECTLY FACING THE PARKING LOT, IT WOULD, THEY WOULD GO INTO THE KITCHEN AND, YEAH, SO HARPER ON THAT, BUT I MEAN, THE APPLICANT CAN DEFINITELY ADD MORE SO THAT THE RECEPTION AREA, THAT HARBOR ENTRANCE, ROY, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THAT'S THE ONLY ADA, UH, ENTRANCE ONSITE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO ENTER IN DIRECTLY OFF OF FRANCIS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE THAT OPTION TO GO TO THAT GROUP SESSION ROOM THERE.
UH, SO BASICALLY JUST TO PICK IT UP OUT OF A MUNSTER, MR. RAMS NINE, SINCE LIKE THE, BASICALLY THE PATH OF TRAVEL FROM THE PARKING LOT, UH, WILL BE THROUGH THE, UH, THE, THE ARROW PATHWAY.
BUT WE DO ALSO HAVE THE, THE PARKING, UH, TO THE REAR END OF THAT DOOR.
UH, MR. MUNEZ HAD POINTED OUT THAT'S ALSO ACCESSIBLE.
I THINK WE ARE ENVISIONING THAT KIND OF BE USED BY OUR STAFF SO THEY COULD JUST COME RIGHT IN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR GUESTS AS WELL AS OUR STUDENTS TRAVEL WITH THAT PATHWAY AND COME IN THROUGH THE RECEPTION, THE FRONT LOBBY AREA.
CAN WE, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER IMAGE AND SEE, UM, LET'S GO BACK TO THE, THE FLOOR PLAN.
UM, AND I, I WANT TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND WHERE THAT LIKE THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE WOULD BE ON THIS DIAGRAM RIGHT HERE.
SO BASED ON THIS DESIGN, I MEAN THAT ENTRANCE WOULD WALK THEM RIGHT INTO LIKE THE KITCHEN BASICALLY.
IS THAT ACCURATE? ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE FOR THE STAFF.
AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY BE WHY YOU WOULDN'T WANT THE KID, THE STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES JUST GOING THROUGH THE KITCHEN, THAT'S CLEARLY A BACK ENTRANCE.
ONCE AGAIN, FOR STAFF AND NOT INTENDED FOR THE GEN, THERE WAS A THIRD ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING.
IS THAT AT THE TOP OF THIS IMAGE GOING INTO THE GROUP LESSON ROOM? YES, SIR.
AND YOU WOULD SEE THAT BEING UTILIZED IN WHAT WAY? UM, VERY LIMITED.
WE ARE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE EVERYONE INGRESS EGRESS FROM THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
AND THAT WOULD ONLY BE ACCESSED BY THE STAIRS DIRECTLY ON THE CORNER.
BECAUSE THERE'S A GREAT CHANGE AND LOOK UP.
IS THAT CORRECT? OH, NO, IT GOES DIRECTLY.
THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, UM, LIKE STREET VIEW ONE AND STREET VIEW TOO.
AND I GUESS AT STREET VIEW TWO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE DAVID THERE'S THOSE STEPS.
UM, THAT ENTRANCE IS JUST GOING TO BE ABANDONED WITH THE NEW DESIGN.
ON THE FLOOR PLAN, THAT ENTRY, WE WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED IT WITH A GLASS STOREFRONT.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO SHOWCASE THE DRUM KIT INSIDE THE BUILDING ON STREET VIEW ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN ENTRYWAY TO THE FACILITY.
AND THEN SAY ON STREET VIEW TO THAT ENTRANCE RIGHT BEHIND THAT SILVER VAN ON THE LEFT OF YOUR CURSOR, THERE THAT'LL BE ABANDONED AS WELL.
UH, NO THAT ONE WILL REMAIN, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT.
THEY WOULD HARDLY USE THAT IN.
OH, THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THAT GROUP LESSON ROOM, CORRECT.
YOU CAN TELL HOW ORIENTED I AM TONIGHT.
IS THERE AN OPENING ON THAT RAW IRON FENCE ALONG FRANCIS AVENUE? OH, I SEE.
SO ON TOP VIEW, LIKE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO VEHICLES, DAVID, UM, THAT'S A ROD IRON FENCE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COMMISSIONER? YEAH.
SO WHAT DO THEY ENTER THROUGH THERE AND THEN FOLLOW THE PATH, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU COME, YOU MAKE A RIGHT ONTO FRANCIS AND YOU TRY TO PULL UP RIGHT UP AGAINST THE SIDEWALK YOU DROP OFF, THE KIDS CAN PULL BEHIND THAT RED VEHICLE.
IT COULD GET ANSWERED AN ACTUAL DOOR THERE.
THAT WAS, SO THE PATH OF TRAFFIC AT THAT POINT WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST ALONG THE SIDEWALK, BACK TO HARBOR AND UP AND AROUND.
BUT THEY COULD GET IN THERE AND THEN THEY CAN ONLY GET INTO THE PARKING AREA FROM THE ALLEY.
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PARKING LOT AREAS VIA THIS GATED ENTRYWAY.SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO SPECTATORS.
SO W WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY? I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT BUSINESS ABANDONED? UH, YES, VACANT.
SO TO SPEAK, LOOKING AT THE RECORDS, THE BUSINESS LICENSE RECORD SHOWED A REAL ESTATE OFFICE.
UM, BUT I, I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING OF THE EXACT DATE OF WHEN IT CEASED IN OPERATION AND THE PROPERTY OWNER CURRENTLY IS OUR CURRENT APPLICANT.
WAS THERE A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP RECENTLY? YES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE DATE OF WHEN THAT OCCURRED.
IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND IS NOW GONNA DEVELOP IT FOR THIS USE? CORRECT.
I MEAN, I LIKE HEARING THAT, UH, JUST AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED THIS EVENING, UM, WILL BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF THAT.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROPERTIES AND IT SEEMS LIKE JUST FROM MY RECOLLECTION THAT THAT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT ABANDONED FOR A WHILE NOW.
SO WE HAVE A BUSINESS OWNER THAT'S COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, UM, TRYING TO SERVICE A NEED AND I THINK MAKE THAT LOCATION, UH, NICER.
AND, UM, I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO THE COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON WAS, UH, AND STAFF CERTAINLY AS WELL, THE MODIFICATION THAT THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED, UM, FOR THE ADDITIONAL HOURS NOW, BY MY NOTES AND DAVID, IF, IF YOU WERE FOLLOWING ALONG, UH, I SAW, YOU KNOW, ONE TO 7 45 ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
SO AN ADDITIONAL TWO HOURS, ONE ON ONE HOUR ON EITHER SIDE, IS, IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT? THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, INSTEAD OF BEGINNING AT 2:00 PM, THE MODIFICATION WOULD BE AT 1:00 PM.
AND THEN INSTEAD OF ENDING AT 6 45, THE MODIFIED HOURS WOULD BE AT 7 45, 2 HOURS TOTAL THEY'RE EXTENDED.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY, UM, 9:00 AM TO 5 45.
SO BY MY MATH, THAT WAS FOUR ADDITIONAL HOURS.
THE SATURDAY CLASSES WOULD BEGIN AT 10:00 AM AND CEASE AT 2 45.
THE REQUESTED CHANGE WOULD START AT 9:00 AM AND WOULD CEASE AT 5 45.
THE FIRST YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS, DAVID.
IS THERE ANYTHING FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF ON THAT, OR, YES.
UM, SO THE RESOLUTION, UH, PROJECT SPECIFIC CONDITION, NUMBER FOUR, IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY SPECIFY A TIMEFRAME.
IT JUST INDICATED, UH, WITH THE MODIFIED HOURS OF OPERATION PRIOR WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION IS REQUIRED FROM THE PLANNING DIVISION.
BUT SINCE WE DO HAVE A WRITTEN REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, UM, IT IS SUGGESTED THAT PROJECT SPECIFIC CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, BE MODIFIED TO INCLUDE THE SPECIFIED HOURS.
IN ADDITION, UM, STAFF WOULD ALSO REQUEST A PROJECT SPECIFIC CONDITION, NUMBER FIVE, BE INCLUDED, UH, TO PROHIBIT ANY TYPE OF RECITAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE BUILDING.
YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO.
UM, I'M, I'M COMPLETELY IN FAVOR FOR CONDITION NUMBER FIVE, AS FAR AS ADDING IT FOR THE RECITALS.
UM, I KNOW THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS TIME OF COVID THAT WE'RE IN, OBVIOUSLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, PARENTS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO KIND OF BE THERE.
UM, I THINK AT SOME POINT THIS TIME OF COVID THAT WE'RE IN.
UM, AND PLEASE GOD, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CHANGE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE, DAVID, MAYBE YOU, YOU DO, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE SPECTATORS IN THE DESIGN, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, LIKE CLEAR INDICATION OF A VIEWING AREA, BUT IT, IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS, UM, YOU KNOW, A PARENT IN ONE OF THOSE ROOMS WHERE SOME TYPE OF CLASSES HAPPENING.
I KNOW, I MEAN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A PARENT, I'M PRETTY SELECTIVE OF WHERE MY KIDS ARE, UM, OUTSIDE OF MY VIEW.
UH, SO IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BECOME, UH, A PARKING CONCERN, I SUPPOSE.
UM, IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE? I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED, UM, PARKING IS ALREADY AN ISSUE ON FRANCIS,
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UM, AND THERE IS NONE.UM, WE TOOK THIS PICTURE ON A GOOD DAY, I GUESS.
UM, IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT THAT? OR THERE, THERE IS A PROJECT SPECIFIC CONDITION, NUMBER FOUR DOES SET A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER GROUP SESSION AND PRIVATE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT LIKE SPECTATORS THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, THE LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN HERE IS IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE FACILITY OR MODIFY THE HOURS, THAT'S WHERE REQUIRES PLANNING DIVISION, UH, APPROVAL WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION OR APPROVAL PARKING STALLS, BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER PARKED RIGHT.
WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PARKING SEVEN.
SO WHAT I JUST HEARD WAS EIGHT, BUT THAT WAS JUST STUDENTS, STUDENTS.
BUT EACH STUDENT COULD HAVE EIGHT FAMILY MEMBERS IN THERE TO WATCH THE WAY THAT THE PARKING RATIO IS BASED ON IS THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SPECIFY SPECTATORS OR PARENTS.
IT JUST SAYS 0.0 0.35 PER STUDENT, UH, FOR THE PARKING RATIO.
HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT ALL THAT? I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS LIKE A BONAFIDE RECITAL OR LIKE SOME TYPE OF EVENT WHERE YOU'RE, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE EIGHT STUDENTS AND PLUS WHATEVER FAMILY THEY EACH HAVE STAFF AND THEN STAFF BARKING AND WHATNOT.
I THINK THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE WHERE YOU HAVE ONE PARENT THAT STAYS BEHIND OR WHATNOT, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
UM, AND I DO SEE THAT, BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT LIKE BONAFIDE EVENTS AND THEN, UM, I MEAN ONSITE, JUST BECAUSE LIKE THEY STATED AS FAR AS PARKING AND THEN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN ALONG, UM, HARBOR, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY PARKING ON IT.
I THINK IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RED ZONE OR WHATNOT.
UM, SO I MEAN, YOU CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMMUTER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY, IF, I MEAN, BECAUSE AT THE SAME TOKEN, IF MY KIDS WERE GOING THERE, I WOULD WANT TO HAVE LIKE A SHOW OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU SEE WHERE THEY CULMINATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE LEARNED.
UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT VENUES HERE IN THE CITY AND THEN KIND OF LIKE YOUR BIG EVENT, UM, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING TO ADD OR, UH, I MEAN, I GUESS JUST GOING BACK TO THE COMMENT OF, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY JUST THE KIDS ARE GETTING DROPPED OFF.
I MEAN, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE PARENT'S GOING TO STAY, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A PARENT TO A STUDENT OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S TWO STUDENTS AND THEIR SIBLINGS AND IT'S ONE PARENT.
UM, SO AT THAT POINT THE PARENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO PARK.
SO I GUESS IT'S JUST THE IN AND OUT OF THE ALLEYWAY.
UM, AND I CAN'T REALLY SEE IT FROM THIS MAP AS TO, TO AVOID ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC JAM RIGHT.
IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU DROP THEM OFF AND YOU JUST GO.
SO, I MEAN, SOMEBODY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO PHYSICALLY GO AND PARK, DROP OFF THEIR KID, WALK THEM AND THEN LEAVE.
SO, UM, AND THAT, THAT ALLEY WOULD EXIT YOU AWARE DAVID ON THE NORTH END, I'M LOOKING AT THEM.
I MEAN, THAT MAP DOESN'T SHOW IT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS.
IS IT A DEAD END? I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUESTION.
CAUSE A DEAD END GOING IN AND OUT ONE WAY, CORRECT IT.
SO THERE'D BE NO REASON FOR SOMEBODY TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE OPPOSITE END IF IT'S A DEFENSE.
I KNOW WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT SOME SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING DEAD END.
DO YOU WANT TO, ANYTHING BAD? YOU GUYS READY FOR A MOTION? UM, BUT JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION PLEASE.
SO DO YOU, DID I GET, YOU WANT TO ADD A CONDITION ABOUT PLACING SIGNS ON THE ALLEY SIDE ABOUT NO, DROP-OFF WE GET LET'S DO THAT.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE STANDARD, BUT IS THERE LIKE A RED CURB THAT THEY CAN PUT ON THE ALLEY ITSELF? SO WE JUST KIND OF TELL PEOPLE HOW YOU CAN BE PARKED ON, WELL, THE THINGS, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE LIGHT AND ABOUT RED CURBS AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT HAS TO BE REFERRED TO THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE AND THEY HAVE TO STUDY THAT.
UM, SO SINCE, UM, THE ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, WE, WE WILL DO THAT.
WE WILL REFER THESE ITEMS TO THE TRAFFIC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW, BUT AT LEAST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, ROY, AT LEAST PUTTING SIGNS ON THE ALLEY SIDE, BECAUSE THERE'S A FENCE RIGHT ALONG THE ALLEY.
UM, ALISO, IF ANYONE PULLS UP, THEY DON'T, THEY KNOW NOT TO PARK THERE, LIKE PARTIAL FENCE, RIGHT.
BECAUSE I MEAN, LEGALLY YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK
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IN THE ALLEY ANYMORE, BUT HAVING THE SIGNS NO DROP OFF YOU CERTAINLY.YEAH, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'LL JUST REINFORCE IT AND PUT EVERYONE ON ALL THE PARENTS ON NOTICE.
IT'S VERY QUICK THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE THAT PARK IN THE ALLEY TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY STARTED PATROLLING THE ALLEY AND GIVING TICKETS AND TOWING CARS AND STUFF.
BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT PARKS IN THE ALLEY EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO THEY'RE NOT AT A TIME THEY'RE ENFORCING IT.
THEY ARE UNFORTUNATE SOMETIMES.
MY, I KNOW IT'S LOW ON THE PRIORITY LIST PROBABLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DEPENDING ON HOW BUSY THEY ARE.
I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE SHORT-STAFFED BUT, UM, APPRECIATE THAT.
IT IS RED CURB FROM MY PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE CORNER AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO PARK RIGHT AT THE CORNER.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET HURT.
SO YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE SIGNAGE.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE GOOD ON THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS OUR FINE, THE SIGNAGE.
AND THEN I BELIEVE CONDITION FIVE FOR THE RECITAL PROHIBITION.
I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON HOURS, THE HOUR MODIFICATION WOULD BE THAT IN THE CUP THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT IF SOUND EVER BECOMES AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, AT FIRST IT WAS OKAY, WE'RE GOING FROM 10:00 AM ON A SATURDAY TO 9:00 AM ON A SATURDAY.
WELL, IF THOSE DRUMS WAKE SOMEONE UP AT 9:00 AM ON A SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, 10:00 AM SEEMS MORE REASONABLE, BUT IF SOUND EVER BECOMES A VIABLE PROBLEM, UM, THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT AND THE APPLICANT'S GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE AND I MEAN, I CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY SUCCEED AND THRIVE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IF THIS DOES HAPPEN.
AND THEN LIKE VICE-CHAIR MONO SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN, IF, AND WHEN YOU DO RECITALS, UM, KEEP THEM IN THE CITY.
JUST ONE POINT OF ORDER, WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION, YOU NEED TO ADD THE LANGUAGE TO THE MOTION MODIFYING CONDITION.
NUMBER THREE TO THE HOURS, READ INTO THE RECORD.
UM, ADDING CONDITION, NUMBER FIVE ABOUT NO RECYCLES AND ADDING CONDITION.
NUMBER SIX, ABOUT SIGNAGE, ABOUT DRY.
NO, DROP-OFF FOR PARKING IN THE ALLEY.
IF I COULD CLARIFY THAT, RIGHT.
NUMBER FIVE WOULD BE THE RECITALS AND NUMBER SIX, THE NO DROP OFF ON THE ALLEY CONDITION.
NUMBER THREE IS REGARDING THE SIGNS ON THE ROOF SIGN ON THE BUILDING, MY BAD.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO THE CITY OF LA HABRA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 21 DASH ZERO FIVE TO ESTABLISH A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL AT 5 0 1 NORTH HARBOR BOULEVARD, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITION AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS.
IN ADDITION, UM, INCLUDING CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, WHICH ADJUSTS THE HOURS DO I HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE HOURS WHAT'S BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD? WHAT'S BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD CONDITION, NUMBER FIVE REGARDING NO RECITALS ALLOWED AND CONDITION NUMBER SIX REGARDING SIGNAGE.
UM, SUCH AS, UH, NO, DROP-OFF DROP-OFF SIGNAGE.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND.
GO AHEAD AND ENTER YOUR VOTES.
AND IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKY DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE ANY CONSIDERATION ITEMS THIS EVENING? NO CONSIDERATION ITEMS. NOPE.
WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
JUST, UM, NEXT UP AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, WE WILL BE DOING A MODIFIED MODIFICATION TO RUBY REDS.
UM, THEY'RE EXPANDING INTO AN ADJACENT STOREFRONT AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE CIRCUS IS COMING TO TOWN, SO, OKAY.
AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION TERRA FMA THAT, UM, MIRANDA COLE CORONA IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
SHE'S BEEN SITTING IN SPACE PATIENTLY THROUGH THE MEETING.
WE BROUGHT HER HERE BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON AFFORDABILITY FOR, FOR SALE HOUSING AND HOW WE IMPLEMENT THAT IN THE CITY.
AND SO SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE HER TO DO SO AT THIS TIME, OR SHE CAN COME BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING, I'M ABLE TO DO THAT TO HER.
YOU JUST CAN'T ACT ON ANYTHING OR GIVE HER ANY DIRECTION OR ANY OF US IN ANY DIRECTION, BUT SHE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR YOU MIRANDA.
THANKS FOR SPENDING YOUR VALENTINE'S DAY WITH US.
MY WIFE IS NOT APPRECIATIVE OF ANY OF THIS, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE
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HERE FEEL FREE.UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE OF YOU, BUT IS THAT FROM THE MEDIA? IT WASN'T THAT YOU JUST WANT US TO FIRE AWAY OR, OKAY.
SO, UH, YES, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, UM, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER MUNOZ, WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL, UM, INCLUSION NERI.
THAT WAS THE PRO THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND SPECIFICALLY I, UM, WHAT MY MAIN GOAL IS THAT THE CITY OF LA HOPPER RESIDENTS ARE PRIORITY IN BEING ABLE TO GET THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
UM, I AM AWARE THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT.
MEANING A RESIDENT CAN CONTACT THEIR CITY AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU PUT ME ON THAT LIST? UM, THERE'S SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS TO GET ON THE LIST AND ANY TIME THESE BRAND NEW AFFORDABLE UNITS COME IN, THESE IN ESSENCE, PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE LIST HAVE ALREADY KIND OF BEEN VETTED, UM, GET PRIORITY, UM, TO ACCESS THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, DOES THE CITY OF LA HABRA PLANTS DEVELOP SOMETHING SIMILAR? DO WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR? UM, AND IF WE DON'T, HOW DO WE GET IT STARTED SO WELL, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO VET SOMEBODY IN ADVANCE BECAUSE AT THE TIME OF PURCHASES, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO QUALIFY, IF YOU PRE-QUALIFY THEM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THEIR INCOME BEFORE THEY CAN PURCHASE THE UNIT.
AND EVEN IF THEY'RE PRE-QUALIFIED, IF THEIR INCOME DOESN'T QUALIFY, THEN THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PURCHASE THE UNIT.
SO TYPICALLY WE DON'T DO AN ADVANCED VETTING BECAUSE SOMETIMES CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE, WHICH WOULD PUT THE FAMILY, UM, OUT OF THE INCOME LIMITS FOR THE PARTICULAR UNIT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE.
THE WAY THAT WE USUALLY HANDLE THE PURCHASES FOR AFFORDABILITY OF MAHABHARATA IS THE DEVELOPERS.
THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY STARTS THE WAITLIST, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS MAINLY TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TENANTS ARE ACTUALLY QUALIFIED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THOSE UNITS.
THE CITY ITSELF DOES NOT RUN ANY OF THE WAIT LIST AT SEA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TOTALLY NEGATES THE GOAL, WHICH IS TO PRIORITIZE THE CITY OF THE HOPPER RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE UNITS.
AND I GUESS, AGAIN, I CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR IT ONLY BECAUSE BOTH OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES DO PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT THING BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IT WAS APPROVED, RIGHT? TO HELP OUR OWN RESIDENTS.
SO BRIA HAS SOME UNITS THAT ARE UP FOR SALE.
AND I'M SPEAKING WITH BRIA, A LOT OF THE TENANTS THAT PURCHASED ARE NOT PRAYER RESIDENTS.
UM, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE PERSON THAT'S TRYING TO PURCHASE THE UNITS AND WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT AND I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT LEGALLY WE CAN RESTRICT FIRST TO THE RESIDENTS OF, UM, THE HOMBRE.
AND THEN ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE LIST OF, IF THERE'S STILL UNITS AVAILABLE AND LAHABRA RESIDENTS WERE VETTED AND NOT QUALIFIED, THEN THEY CAN MOVE ON.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IN THERE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK WITH THE ATTORNEYS ABOUT AS WE WORK ON THE COVENANTS WITH THE DEVELOPER TO SEE IF WE CAN INSERT THAT LANGUAGE.
BUT TYPICALLY IT WILL, IF WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, IT WOULD BE LAHABRA RESIDENTS FIRST.
AND THEN IF THEY CAN'T QUALIFY, THEN IT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF THE LA HABRA.
WE ALSO DON'T WANT THE UNITS TO SIT FAKE IT BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A RESIDENT ON THE HOPPER THAT COULD QUALIFY FOR THE AFFORDABLE UNIT.
THAT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE LIKE WHAT, WHAT WE DISCOVER AND HOW, YOU KNOW, BRIA AND I THINK WHITTIER IS THE OTHER CITY THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO.
I MEAN, WHEN I HEAR THIS, MY EAR JUST IMMEDIATELY THINKS LIKE, THIS SOUNDS LIKE FAIR HOUSING PROBLEMS, LIKE RIGHT AWAY, UM, THAT IF WE WERE TO RESTRICT AND SO I WOULD BE REALLY FASCINATED TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS AND HOW THE CITY CAN NAVIGATE AROUND THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAID I WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE ATTORNEY TO SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
I KNOW THAT BRAD DID NOT RESTRICT FOR SAL.
I ACTUALLY KNOW SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN ANOTHER CITY THAT WAS ABLE TO SNAG ONE OF THE UNITS AND BRANDS.
SO, AND I'VE TALKED WITH THE PERSON IN BRIA, WHO'S BEEN REVIEWING ALL THE APPLICATIONS.
SO I KNOW THAT THEY FOR SURE ARE NOT RESTRICTING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHITTIER IS DOING.
IF THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION AND THEIR COVENANTS.
I DON'T MIND TAKING A LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK, BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD NOT WANT TO RESTRICT IT SOLELY FOR LAHABRA RESIDENTS.
THAT JUST PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE THE DEVELOPER MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE UNITS, REPHRASE THAT.
I GUESS I JUST WANT THE CITY OF THE HOPPER RESIDENTS TO GET FIRST DIPS, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY, ABSOLUTELY OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY ELSE.
BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT, AND ONLY CAUSE MY SISTER WAS LOOKING AND IS IN CURRENT ESCROW,
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UM, THE CITY OF ANAHEIM HAS A LIST THAT SHE COULDN'T GET ON THERE.IT WAS LIKE, OH, THERE'S LIKE 300 PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
AND IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU GET PRIORITY TO BE ON THE LIST, SAME THING FOR THE CITY OF BREATH.
ALTHOUGH, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A CITY OF BREYER RESIDENT, SHE ACTUALLY WAS LIKE THIRD IN LINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, SHE GOT A LITTLE CLOSER.
UM, AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR THE CITY OF WEIRDER.
SO I KNOW THESE POLICIES ARE ALREADY THEY'VE, THEY'VE ALREADY SET PRECEDENTS AND OBVIOUSLY YES, IF YOU KNOW, CURRENT RESIDENTS AREN'T ABLE TO QUALIFY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THEN YES, ABSOLUTELY OPEN IT UP TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST MORE ALLOWING FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT PARTY USE JUST HOW OTHER CITIES DO IT FOR THEIR OWN RESIDENTS.
I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM MINDING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE DEVELOPER COULD AGREE TO THE RESTRICTIONS.
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE LEGALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHAT WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET? LIKE JUST A REPORT BACK ON THAT MIRANDA FROM, FROM, I DON'T WANT TO CLOG YOU UP ANOTHER EVENING, BUT FROM STAFF OR FROM YOU, OR, OR SOMEHOW SOME WAY I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, I DO WHAT COMMISSIONER ROJAS IS SAYING.
AND I, I JUST WONDER IF, IF TH IT'S GOTTA BE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
BUT I THINK THE TIME WOULD COME AS WHEN WE ACTUALLY START THE, UM, AGREEMENT PROCESS AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
I THINK ONCE WE START WORKING ON THE DRAFT AGREEMENT, THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY GIVE THE ATTORNEY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK THROUGH THINGS AND LET US KNOW WHAT'S GONNA WORK AND WHAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ISN'T USING ANY TYPE OF FUNDING SOURCE AND FUNDING SOURCES USUALLY, UM, LET YOU PRIORITIZE WHAT TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS AND HOW PROJECTS GO.
SO, BECAUSE THIS ONE ISN'T USING FUNDING SOURCES, THEY'RE USING DISNEY BONUSES FOR CONCESSIONS OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY WANT IT FOR THE PROJECT, THEN THAT IS INCLUDING AFFORDABILITY.
UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS MANY RESTRICTIONS AS IT WOULD IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVING SOME FUNDING IN ORDER TO BUILD.
SO ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON THE AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME, I THINK IT'LL GIVE THE ATTORNEY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO WITH DENSITY BONUS AND THIS AND THAT, IS THIS GOING TO WORK FOR THIS PROJECT? AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE COULD PROBABLY BRING A REPORT BACK TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH GETTING STARTED ON THAT AGREEMENT.
I THINK I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE DEVELOPER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DRAFTING THE AGREEMENT FOR US TO START OUR REVIEW OF IT.
SO I'M JUST THAT I THINK, UM, MY BIGGEST THING IS WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE INCLUSION, OREGON.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE UNITS DOWN THE ROAD.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE TWO PROJECTS WE APPROVED, IF THEY WERE, IF THEY HAD SUBMITTED A LOT LATER, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL UNITS.
SO I THINK IT IS UPON US TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS OUR POLICY AND THEN EXACTLY HOW COMMISSIONER ROJAS STATED, YOU KNOW, GIVE THAT PRIORITY FIRST.
AND IF NOT THAT, OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN'T GO OUT, BUT AT LEAST TO TELL OUR ZOOS, UM, I'M SORRY, THE HOPPER RESIDENTS MAY WORK MODE.
UM, OUR LAHABRA RESIDENTS THAT, HEY, THEIR FIRST PRIORITY, IF LEGALLY SPEAKING, WE CAN DO IT.
AND I THINK THAT COULD BE FINE AGAIN, I THINK FOR EVERY PROJECT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS ARE, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT IT'S PERFECTLY FINE TO START THE CONVERSATION SO THAT WE COULD SEE YOUR FURTHER PROJECT THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO START THE WASTE WEIGHTLESS WHERE LA HARBOR RESIDENTS WOULD GET FIRST CHOICE OF THE UNITS.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? NO.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, UM, FOR PROVIDING ALL THE FEEDBACK AND FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY.
UM, I DO HAVE JUST A QUESTION, DAVID, FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE APPROVE TONIGHT 16 ON ONE SIDE 10 ON THE OTHER, RIGHT? YES.
COULD THEY HAVE HAD MORE UNITS? OH, DEFINITELY.
HOW MANY MORE? THE 16 UNIT PROJECT HAD A DENSITY ALLOTMENT OF 22.
SO THEY COULD'VE GONE ALL THE WAY UP TO 22.
LET ME, AND THE REASON BEING FOR 16, JUST THEIR DECISION IS THE SIMPLE ANSWER.
I GUESS, THEIR DECISION AND THEIR BIG 3000 SQUARE FOOT, THREE BEDROOM, LIKE TOWNHOME, LIKE THAT'S MASSIVE.
BUT THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE WAY DENSITY WORKS.
AND THE CODE SETS THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
AND THEN WHEN A DEVELOPER DOES STARTS DECIDING WHAT SIZE THEY WANT THOSE UNITS, THAT'S WHAT LIMITS, HOW MANY YOU CAN GET.
RIGHT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE BUILDING AN APARTMENT BUILDING AND THEY'RE 1200 SQUARE, 1500 SQUARE FEET, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE OF THEM
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ON A PROPERTY THAN YOU ARE THAT 33,000 SQUARE FOOT TOWNHOUSE.I GUESS I WANT SOME OF THIS CONVERSATION OFF THE RECORD, BUT WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
DAVID, WERE YOU GONNA ADD SOMETHING? YEAH.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THE 3 8, 3 18 SOUTH CYPRESS STREET.
THAT'S THE 27,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO 22 UNITS.
SO THERE ARE ONLY PROPOSING 10 22 ON THAT SIDE.
THE LARGER TRIANGULAR PARCEL IS 39,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THAT WOULD ONE UNITS OR SOMETHING.
THE MAX DENSITY WOULD BE 33 UNITS.
NOTHING ELSE FROM ME, NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH.
I TOLD MY WIFE, THIS WAS GOING TO BE A SHORT ONE.