* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2022 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.] [00:00:03] THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER AND WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER BERNIE AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGED TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER ROJAS HERE. CHAIRMAN LEE, VICE CHAIR. MUNOZ. YEAH. COMMISSIONER BERNIER. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR. SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND ARE LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE. SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL. IN NATURE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5, 4 0.3. A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION FOR AN ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL. THE TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM, THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR. SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE. SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS SHOULD BE KEPT BRIEFED ON REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL NATURE FOR THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME AS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? COMMISSIONER ROJAS? NO. UH, COMMISSIONER BERNAY I'LL BE ABSTAINING. VICE CHAIR. WINDOWS BOONE. YES. NO THANK YOU. UH, AND I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? OKAY. SEEING NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROJAS, SEGMENTED BY VICE-CHAIR MUNOZ. EVERYONE. PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE. VICE CHAIR, MANNY DRIVE LINKS TODAY. OKAY. MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO WITH COMMISSIONER BERNIERIE, UM, ABSTAINING. PERFECT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING. WE'LL BE MAKING A MODIFICATION TO THE ORDER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE WILL BE DOING THE CIRCUS ITEM FIRST. THAT SOUNDS FUNNY TO SAY SO THE FIRST ITEM UP IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO ONE TO CONDUCT A LARGE SPECIAL EVENT AT 1641 TO 1721 WEST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY. DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT. DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES. GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. UH, THE CIRCUS IS COMING TO LA HABRA. UH, THIS IS AN EVENT THAT'S PROPOSED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LAHABRA COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE OPERATORS AMERICAN CROWN CIRCUS, AND THEY OPERATE IN ACROBATIC CIRCUS. UM, WITHIN THE PARKING LOT OF THE LAHABRA MARKETPLACE, THIS EVENT HELPS THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT RAISE FUNDS FOR OTHER CITY SPONSORED PROGRAMS. THE EVENT AREA IS THE SAME AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, IT'S LOCATED SOUTH OF THE FAMOUS FOOTWEAR SUITE AND JUST NORTH OF THE MODERN DENTISTRY SLASH SCHOOLS. FIRST FEDERAL CREDIT UNION BUILDING. UM, THE EVENT HAS BEEN HELD CONSECUTIVELY FROM 2015 TO 2019. UH, THIS WILL BE THE SIXTH YEAR. THE APPLICANT HAS CONDUCTED THIS EVENT AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. SO THE EVENT SET UP WILL BEGIN ON TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH AND TEAR DOWN WILL BE COMPLETED BY TUESDAY, MARCH 22ND. SHOWTIMES FOR THE EVENT PERFORMANCES ARE THURSDAY, MARCH 27TH, FRIDAY, MARCH 18TH, SATURDAY, MARCH 19TH, FROM 5:30 PM TO 9:30 PM AND SUNDAY, MARCH 20TH, MONDAY, MARCH 21ST [00:05:01] FROM THREE 30 TO 9:30 PM. EACH CIRCUS PERFORMANCE INCLUDES JUGGLERS CLOWNS, ACROBATS, AND PETITIONS, AND EACH PERFORMANCE LASTS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOURS. UH, NO ANIMALS OPEN FLAMES OR PYROTECHNICS WILL BE USED THE EVENT LAYOUT AND LOCATION. IT'S THE SAME. AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, IT'S A APPROXIMATELY 183 FEET BY 200 FEET. UH, IT'S WITHIN THREE DRIVE ISLES WITHIN THE CENTER AND THE, UH, EVENT PERIMETER WILL BE SECURED WITH TRAFFIC BARRIERS. UM, THE TENT ITSELF, UH, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS THAT THE LIGHT STANDARDS AND THE TREES, UH, PASS THROUGH THE TENT OR THEY'RE FITTED WITHIN THE TENT. UM, IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE TEMPORARY GENERATOR, TRASH RECEPTACLES FOR PORTABLE RESTROOMS, INCLUDING AN ACCESSIBLE RESTROOM, UH, AND A TICKET BOOTH TRAILER. WITHIN THE EVENT AREA, THE EVENT COORDINATOR IS GOING TO PROVIDE TWO SECURITY GUARDS TO MONITOR THE EVENT AREA. THE INTERIOR OF THE TENT INCLUDES A 31 BY 31 FOOT THREE, THREE FOOT HIGH STAGE PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TENT. AND IT HAS PORTABLE BLEACHERS SURROUNDING THE STAGE, UH, ALLOWING FOR MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF 400 INDIVIDUALS. THERE'S A BACKSTAGE AREA LOCATED ALONG THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE TENT, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE USED BY THE PERFORMANCE PERFORMERS. UM, THE EVENT INCLUDES FOUR SEPARATE EXITS AND ENTRANCE, AND A FIRST AID FACILITY. THE INTERIOR CONSTITUENT STAND PROVIDES POPCORN, COTTON CANDY, SNOWCONES NACHOS, HOTDOGS, AND SOFT DRINKS. UM, ALL FOOD HEATING EQUIPMENT IS ELECTRICAL AS NO PROPANE OR OPEN, UH, GAS BURNERS WILL BE USED. THIS EVENT IS ANTICIPATED DRAW BETWEEN 150 TO 200 PERSONS PER PERFORMANCE. UH, THE VENT AREA IS LOCATED WITHIN A PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S NOT HEAVILY USED, UM, AND NO ISSUES HAVE BEEN REPORTED, UH, FROM THE OPERATION THAT PREVIOUS EVENTS, UH, WHICH RANGED FROM 2015 TO 2019. UM, WE CARRIED FORWARD THE SAME CONDITIONS AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. UM, SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE EVENT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DAVID. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, COMMISSIONER ROJAS, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM, WILL THERE BE ANY ALCOHOL SERVED? NO, NO ALCOHOL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. BERNAY UH, NO QUESTIONS. I JUST NOTICED THAT IT MOVED FROM ONE SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT TO ANOTHER, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S LESS USED IN THAT AREA. YEAH. IT'S THE SAME LOCATION AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. YEAH. YEAH. COOL. BY SHERMAN NOSE. JUST QUICK QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY, I KNOW IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND, UM, YOU STATED THAT THEY RAISE FUNDS. IS THAT LIKE A PORTION OF THE TICKETS OR IS THAT BASED OFF OF THE RENTAL OR JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY? WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE IS A PERCENTAGE IN THE SALES THAT GOES TOWARDS COMMUNITY SERVICES. OKAY. THAT'S IT, DAVID, IS THAT THE EXTENT OF THE CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES? CORRECT? MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. AND YOU DID SAY, UM, IN ALL THE YEARS THAT THE OPERATOR HAS BEEN THERE, NO CONCERNS FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES THEY'RE IN THE CENTER, CORRECT? NOTHING HAS BEEN RAISED, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS YOU'RE AWARE. CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. NO. OKAY. NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. SEEN NONE AT THIS TIME, WE CAN CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA WE'RE APPROVING SPECIAL EVENT. PERMIT 22 DASH OH ONE TWO TO PRODUCE A LARGE EVENT AT 1641 TO 1721, WESTERN PRIO HIGHLIGHT AS PER APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL SECOND, MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER BERNAY AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR. MUNOS EVERYONE. PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO, AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS, UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I'D BE OPEN TO ELEPHANTS. I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T, [00:10:02] I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT I, I WOULD, MY FAMILY WOULD AWESOME. UM, OKAY, ROY, WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE RIGHT ALONG. WE'LL MOVE TO THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING. PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM. THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST. AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION. REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. AFTER ALL OF THIS SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER OR TAKE ANY ACTIONS THAT DEEMS APPROPRIATE. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, LEAVE IT AT THE LECTURE. AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU'LL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR. THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR. COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE. OKAY. OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ITEM THIS EVENING, DO WE NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO ONE FOR THE EXPANSION OF A RESTAURANT, RUBY REDS, BARBECUE AND MODIFICATION 22 DASH ZERO ONE TO MODIFY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 14 FOR AN ABC TYPE 41 ON SALE BEER AND WINE LICENSE AT 1841 WEST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY SUITES A AND B, DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT. DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? UH, SABRINA WE REDS IS CURRENTLY OPERATING WITHIN SUITE B A AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO EXPAND TO INCLUDE SUITE A AS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS. UM, THE SUITE A WAS USED BY A MEDICAL OFFICE AND, UH, WITH THE EXPANSION, IT, THE RESTAURANT WILL BE TECHNICALLY A WEST OF THE ROSS RETAIL STORE. SO BRIBIE REDS, UH, OBTAIN THE ORIGINAL CPS CP FOR RESTAURANT USE NACP FOR THE TYPE 41 ON SALE BEER AND WINE, UH, TO OPERATE WITHIN SUITE B ON JANUARY 11TH, 2021. AND THEY OFFICIALLY BEGAN OPERATION IN JULY, AUGUST OF 2021. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITY, UH, AND ACQUIRE A SUITE A TO THE EAST AS SHOWN HERE. UM, SUITE A IS APPROXIMATELY 1,478 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE SAME RESTAURANT FUNCTIONS WITHIN THAT AREA, UM, THAT WILL INCLUDE FOOD SERVICE AND ALCOHOL SERVICE. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE OPERATION OF A BARBECUE STYLE RESTAURANT PROVIDING PREMIUM QUALITY, BARBECUE, AND ON SALE BEER AND WINE. THE RESTAURANT, UH, OPERATES MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 11:00 AM TO 9:00 PM WITH FIVE TO 10 EMPLOYEES. UM, THE PLAN INCLUDES A TENANT IMPROVEMENT TO INCORPORATE SUITE A AND THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE AN EXTENSION OF THE KITCHEN AREA AND ADDITIONAL DINING AREA FOR A COMBINED TOTAL OF ABOUT 4,200 SQUARE FEET. THE CENTER HAS AN APPROVED PARKING STUDY DATA 2019, UH, 2020. AND IT HAS DATA TO SUPPORT THE RESTAURANT EXPANSION. THERE ARE NO PARKING, UM, UH, ISSUES ANTICIPATED WITH THE EXPANSION. ALL THE RESTAURANT ACTIVITIES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE ENCLOSED BUILDING AND WITHIN THE GATED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA THAT'S LOCATED ON THE SIDE. UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY TYPE OF COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES REGARDING THE RESTAURANTS OPERATION AND THE SAME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT WERE ISSUED TO THE ORIGINAL CUP WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD. UM, SO THIS CONCLUDES MY RECOMMENDED MY PRESENTATION, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DAVID. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONER ROJAS? UH, WILL THEY BE SHUTTING DOWN DURING EXPANSION? NO. THE, THE EXISTING RESTAURANT WILL CONTINUE AN OPERATION, UM, ON THE FLOOR PLAN. WHAT THEY SHOW IS A CUTOUT NEAR THE FRONT OF THE STORE WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE NEW, UM, SUITE AS WELL AS KEEPING THE EXISTING DOORS. BUT THE ORIGINAL SUITE B WILL CONTINUE IN OPERATION WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION COMMISSIONER BERNIER, NOTHING FOR NOW VICE CHAIR. MUNOS NO QUESTIONS. DAVID, THE MODIFICATION TO THE ABC LICENSE IS STRICTLY JUST FOR THE INCLUSION OF THE ADDITIONAL SUITE LOCATION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. CORRECT. AND THEN, UM, I PROBABLY MISSED THIS, BUT IT WAS THERE AN INCREASE IN SEATING CAPACITY, CORRECT. IT'S A NEW DINING AREA, EXTENDED OR EXTENSION OF THE DAMAGE EXTENSION. AND DO YOU, [00:15:01] DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THAT, LIKE CAPACITY FROM WHAT TO WHAT? UH, I CAN LOOK AT THE PLANS. UM, SO THE, THE FLOOR PLAN PROVIDED IT SHOWS BOOTHS ALONG THE EAST SIDE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TABLES AND CHAIRS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, SUCH AS DOING A QUICK COUNT. ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS, LIKE NORTH IS AT THE TOP, CORRECT? UH, NORTH WOULD BE ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. GOT IT. OKAY. AND THEN THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE. WHAT WOULD IT BE? THAT SIDE DOOR ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, THEN THAT WOULD BE THEIR REAR ACCESS THE REAR DOOR. OKAY. SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 20 PLUS SEEDING. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THAT'S WHAT THREW ME OFF. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS JUST SUITE B THE EXPANSION, THE, OF THE PROPOSED, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. GOT IT. GOOD. GO AHEAD. SORRY. ONE QUICK QUESTION. UM, UNDER THE PRODUCTION UNDER SUITE A, THE WALL ARE LOCATED ON THE EAST OF IT. IS THAT GOING TO REMAIN WHEN YOU, YEAH, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE ON THE DIGITAL VERSION ON THE HARD COPY VERSION. IT DOES SHOW THE REMOVAL OF A SECTION OF THE WALL, RIGHT? WHEN YOU ENTER THE RESTAURANT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ATTEMPT TO TURN RIGHT AND ACCESS THE NEW EXTENDED, UM, DINING AREA. BUT UNDER THE PRODUCTION, ARE THEY, I GUESS I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEHIND THE RESTAURANT, THEY CAN SEE ALL OF THE DINING AREA. IT'S NOT LIKE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS, I MEAN, BASED OFF OF THE PLANT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WALL THERE WHERE IT SAYS PRODUCTION OFFICE SUITE. HEY, OH, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. IT SEEMS THAT'S A SOLID WALL. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE IS LIKE A WALL THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOWER THAT. SO THEN WHO'S EVER BACK THERE TAKING ORDERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE NEW EXPANSION AREA. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THE ONLY THING IS LIKE, IF NOW WE HAVE ALCOHOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND MORE PEOPLE ARE OVER HERE. YEAH. BUT IT'S A LITTLE HARD ON THE PLANTS. CAUSE I SEE THE DARK LINES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXISTING OR IN THOSE TWO DOTS RIGHT. ABOVE YOUR FINGER. YEAH. YEAH. SO YEAH, THIS WILL BE OPEN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WALL IS GOING TO, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WALL IN THE MIDDLE. YEAH, I GUESS SO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE THAT THIS IS PRODUCTION. THIS IS NOT FIVE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES AWAY, NINE MINUTES AWAY. HE'S STUCK IN TRAFFIC. SO IF YOU LIKE, WE CAN TAKE A SHORT RECESS TO GIVE HIM TIME TO GET HERE OR WE CAN JUST PROCEED. DTA WAS, UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT THE INTENT IS TO JUST REMOVE THAT FIRST 10 FOOT SECTION OR SO OF WALL AS YOU WALK IN THE DOOR BECAUSE WHERE YOU HAVE THEY'RE PROPOSING NEW TABLES AND CHAIRS BACKS UP TO WHERE THE FOOD PREP LINE ISN'T IN THE EXISTING RESTAURANT. SO LOWERING THE WALL THERE, UM, WOULD NOT BE PRACTICAL FOR THEIR OPERATIONS AS, AS THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE FRONT END STAFF ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE IT SAYS PICKUP, WHICH IS FINE IF THE HOUSE SOMEONE OVER THERE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE SAME PRODUCTION LINE WHEN YOU ORDER OFF OF SUITE A OR I'M SORRY, B YEAH. YOU THINK THAT'S A CAUSE THAT'S THE CORNER, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT YEAH, BUT IF THE COMMISSION HAS CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO FOR YOU CAN CONDITION, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SECURITY CAMERAS OR WHATEVER, SO THAT SOME WHOEVER'S THE PERSON IN CHARGE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ENTIRE RESTAURANT, FROM WHEREVER, WHEREVER HE'S AT, SINCE YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE WALL, I THINK THAT'S MY ONLY, OR YOU COULD ASK THEM TO PUT A WINDOW THROUGH THERE OR SOMETHING TO OPEN IT UP. IF YOU FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I WOULD AGREE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY IS FOR THAT. SO SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A PARTY, YOU'RE A, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IN THERE AT ONE TIME? AND CAN THEY HANDLE BOTH? LET'S, LET'S DO THIS. LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS. AND UM, IF HE'S NOT HERE IN 10 MINUTES AND WE CAN ADD THE CONDITIONS, IF HE'S HERE AND WE CAN GET SOME MORE CLARITY FROM THE APPLICANT. UM, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT AND WE CAN JUST ADD THE CONDITIONS IN AS WE SEE FIT, BUT WE MIGHT BE MAKING SOMETHING OUT OF, OUT OF NOTHING ONCE WE HEAR FROM HIM. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU WALK IN ORDER HERE IN 10 MINUTES. MAYBE WE CONTINUE IT SO THAT HE CAN BE HERE. WE'RE JUST DENYING IT. SO, [00:20:02] SO THERE'S A WALL HERE AND THEN YOU COME IN AND THEN YOU ORDER FROM HERE, OBVIOUSLY THIS, THIS IS FULL WALL, RIGHT? YES. THOSE TWO KNOTS ARE GONNA, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE IT MIGHT BE A PONY WALL HERE THOUGH. LIKE, NO, I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO GET OPENED UP. SO THEN THAT CONNECTS IT. WELL, THIS PORTION. OKAY. YOU THINK SO? WHY WOULD THEY ALL HAVE TO INDICATE THAT THOUGH? WHY WOULD THEY HAVE LIKE THAT BIG THICK WIRE THERE, THERE, WELL, I THINK THAT THIS IS THIS DASH AND THE TWO DOTS THAT'S JUST TO MAKE THE DELINEATION THAT ALL THIS HATCHED IS NOT PART OF THE PROPOSAL WORK. OH, THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S CLEAN. SO LET'S SEE. I THINK HE HE'S RIGHT DOWN BELOW THERE OR THE LOWER I THINK. OR UNLESS THEY HAVE PEOPLE OVER HERE. RIGHT HERE, I GUESS LIKE DOWN HERE, THIS IS ALREADY DINING RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THIS IS THE PARTY UP HERE. AND THEN WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S THIS, SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP AND THROUGH HERE BAR, AND THEN THIS IS THE REGISTER HERE. AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A BAR, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THIS IS THE DOOR AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN, WE USUALLY HAVE A LINE AND YOU GO AROUND HERE AND THROW OUT HERE. SO THEN THERE'S A PATIO HERE OR WHERE DO YOU PAY? USUALLY REPAIR. AND THEN, SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SEE THAT WHEN I WALK? LIKE, IS IT BUFFET KIND OF LIKE, OR DO YOU ORDER IT? , IT'S KIND OF LIKE, SO KIND OF LIKE HAPPY TO WHERE YOU KIND OF KIND OF LIKE, GOT IT. THE FOOD'S GOOD. SO THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE EXPANSION, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE? THAT WAS MY CONCERN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T SEE THIS. I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD LOWER THIS AND IT WOULD BE CALL. OKAY, COOL. SO WHAT'S YEAH, LIKE, SO W WHAT THE FLOW IS GOING TO BE THE SAME AS IT IS TODAY WHEN THEY DO THE EXPANSION, RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT CHANGING LIKE THAT PRODUCTION LINE. SO LIKE THAT PICKUP SIGN ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE YOU'RE INDICATING WHAT THERE'D BE LIKE FRONTLINE STAFF THERE, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS PROBABLY LIKE UBER, LIKE, OR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING AND GOING. OKAY. WE'LL GRAB IT. CAUSE I THINK THE ONLY CONNECTION THAT THEY HAVE IS THROUGH HERE THROUGH THE DRY STORAGE, TO THE NEW KITCHEN. I DON'T SEE, THIS IS A SINK OVER HERE. IF HE'S NOT HERE BY SEVEN, DO YOU WANT TO JUST KICK IT? YEAH. CAUSE WE'VE GOT OF QUESTIONS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN THINK ABOUT AND COME BACK WITH THIS BEFORE, IF HE IS SINCERE AND HE SAYS LIKE THIS WALL ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, THE WEATHER, THE LADY VOICE TALKING. UM, MY KIDS ARE FOR NO MORE MASS MANDATES AT SCHOOL. I JUST READ THE EMAIL. MY KIDS GO. YEAH. ST. ANGELA. OKAY. YEAH. I GUESS ALL THE SUPERINTENDENTS OR SOMETHING HAD A MEETING TODAY. YEAH. AND WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO AGAIN? A WATER TECHNICIAN TOWARDS IN THAT DIRECTION. YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN MY DAUGHTER. SHE'S LIKE WHATEVER HIGH SCHOOL, BUT AT THE MOMENT , HE'S EXCITED. AND THEN HE'S GOING TO COME HERE. PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MASKS. I HAVE TO ADMIT THEY REALLY DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE, CAUSE I ASKED SOME KIDS WHO'S REALLY HAD A HARD TIME. WE CAN'T KEEP IT ON, BUT THAT WASN'T THE CASE. I WAS, I WAS VERY LUCKY IN THAT REGARD. [00:25:01] YEAH. AND IT WAS WHEN I APPLIED FOR THIS JOB, SOMEBODY . YEAH. MY SON'S ON THE SITE AND HE'S GONE, WHICH IS NICE. BUT THEY DO GET DEPLOYED THERE. YEAH. IT'S A LOT. IT'S VERY INTENSE. VERY COMPETITIVE. YEAH. MY DAUGHTERS, MY SON . SO IF HE DOES COME TO CALIFORNIA, I GAVE HIM THE OPTION AT ME. WE'RE PRETTY OPEN ABOUT WHEREVER THEY WANT. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU'LL DO GOOD. LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO FORCE YOU INTO ANYTHING MY GIRLS ARE REALLY BIG ON PROGRAMS, SO IT'S DIFFERENT. SO HE SAID, IF THEY TELL ME YOU CAN STOP YOUR HIGH SCHOOL. PROBABLY JUST ONE OF THE STONE BY TWO SISTERS. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. MY DAUGHTERS WENT TO HEART ACADEMY FOR AWHILE. OH. SO MY DAUGHTER WENT FOR ONE YEAR AND THEN SHE SWITCHED BACK. SHE DIDN'T LIKE, SEE, AND THEN SHE LIKED HER. OH, THAT'S FUNNY. YEAH. THEY DID HEART ACADEMY. AND THEN DURING THE PANDEMIC, THEY CONTINUED WITH LIKE ZOOM CLASSES AND THEN WE STUCK THROUGH IT. AND THEN THIS YEAR MY GIRLS WERE JUST LIKE, MOM, WE NEED A BREAK. YEAH, I DID TOO. OKAY. WHATEVER. NO DOUBT. WE'LL BE RESILIENT KIDS. COOL. THEY'RE STILL YOUNG. I THINK I'M 10 AND EIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO YEAH. REALLY FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY WANT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LIKE, WE NEED A BREAK. I'M LIKE, OKAY. YEAH. WHATEVER YOU WANT TIME. I AM NOT YET. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO LIKE DIEHARD DANCE DOT, HEARD SOCCER. YEAH. WE DID A SONG. OH, I DID THE SOCCER SEASON. UM, AND I ACTUALLY COACHED, I WAS THE ASSISTANT COACH. MY SISTER WAS THE HEAD COACH. I WAS SO MUCH WORK JUST TO LIKE Y A Y IS, OH GOD. I'M SO GLAD. MY DAD WAS LIKE, OKAY, THAT WAS FUN. I DON'T WANNA DO THAT ANYMORE. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ANYMORE. EITHER. LIKE EVERY SATURDAY I WAS LIKE, OH MY PARENTS DO THIS. YES. THAT'S JUST A LOT OF COMMITMENT. WOW. YEAH. BUT MY BEST FRIEND HAS A DAUGHTER WHO DOES THE WHOLE CLUB TEAM THING TRAVELS EVERY WEEKEND. AND NOW SHE'S HER DAUGHTER HEARD TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH YOUR OH, HOW EXCITING. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S KIND OF FUN. IT'S NICE TO BE OUTDOORS WATCHING HIS KIDS. BUT IT JUST, YES, IT IS. YEAH. ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS IS COUNTED SWIMMING. WE'RE DOING SWIM. OKAY. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE SECOND AGAIN, SHE'S ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT LIKES TO DO IT. BUT AS SOON AS IT STARTS GETTING, LIKE, LIKE, SHE DOESN'T LIKE, SHE JUST SHE'S LIKE, I WANT TO DO IT FOR LEISURE AND FUN. I'M LIKE, I KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHY MOM? COMPETITIVE SPIRIT. SHE GIVES ME ANXIETY FOR ANXIETY. MAYBE IT DOES. I DUNNO. CAUSE HE WAS JUST [00:30:35] OKAY. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. UM, THE, YEAH. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, UM, MAKING ANY TYPE OF DECISION ON THIS WITHOUT HEARING MORE FROM THE APPLICANT. SO, UH, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE ITEM TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND? OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO STAND ON OUR VOTES FOR THAT? OKAY. EVERYONE ENTER YOUR VOTES. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. SO WE'LL REVISIT THAT NEXT TIME WE'RE TOGETHER. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY CONSIDERATION ITEMS THIS EVENING? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? JUST A KIND OF AN UPDATE OF YOUR NEXT AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE, UM, SOME PUBLIC ART FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE. MURALS IS KIND OF THE AGENDA. SO MULTIPLE OR JUST MULTIPLE TYPES OF THE SAME PROJECT, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S EXCITING. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'D BE FINE. I REMEMBER WHEN DOWNTOWN FULLERTON DID LIKE THOSE SHEEP EVERYWHERE. HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING AS EXCITING AS THAT. NOT QUITE AS, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER ROJAS COMMISSIONER BERNAY NO NOTHING. IF I SHARE MY NEWS, NO, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, MARCH 14TH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.