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MUNOS[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, MARCH 14, 2022 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL CHAIRMAN LEE, VICE CHAIR MUNOZ HERE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER ROJAS HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THIS EVENING.
UH, WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED OR LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL.
IN NATURE, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5, 4 0.3.
A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON AN ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE AN ACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FALLING IN THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL.
TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS SHOULD BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE FOR THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME AS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? VICE-CHAIR MUNOZ? NO COMMISSIONER BERNAY NO.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? SO SEEING NONE AT THIS TIME, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVED TO, UH, ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING.
UM, I APPROVED TO GET THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL SECOND.
SO MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER BERNIE AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.
IS IT SHOWING YOU THE RESULTS? MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO.
NOW MOVED TO THE, UH, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST ITEM CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF REQUESTS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO ONE FOR THE EXPANSION OF A RESTAURANT, RUBY REDS, BARBECUE AND MODIFICATION, 22 DASH ZERO ONE TO MODIFY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 14 FOUR, AN ABC TYPE 41 ON SALE BEER AND WINE LICENSE AT 1841 WEST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY SUITES, A AND B STAFF PRESENTED THE STAFF REPORT AT THE FEBRUARY 28TH MEETING.
AND THE COMMISSION HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION CHAIRMAN.
IT APPEARS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS NOT PRESENT.
I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AND THE, I DO HAVE AN EMAIL WHERE THE RESPONSE WAS THE SUITE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE EXPANDED.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PICKUP AND THE CATERING AREA.
UM, SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN EMPLOYEE, UH, OVERSEEING THAT SECTION OF THE RESTAURANT.
UM, THERE WERE NO OTHER OPENINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED ON THE BUILDING WALL SEPARATING THE TWO SUITES, BUT HE DID INDICATE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PICKUP AND CATERING AREA FOR THE RESTAURANT DAVID, THE RED LINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, UM, JUST INDICATES THE ADDITION AREA.
AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING LIKE THE WALL, I GUESS, ON THE BOTTOM OF THE RED LINE, UM, AND WHERE THAT WAS GOING TO BE MODIFIED.
UM, SO THE ONLY OPENING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, RIGHT BELOW THE WORD DINING.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A NEW OPENING THAT'S GOING
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TO BE MADE SO YOU CAN ACCESS BOTH SWEETS.NO OTHER OPENINGS ARE PROPOSED.
ON THE L ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, SORRY.
RIGHT SIDE UNDERNEATH THE DINING.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? MANY, UM, WE, WE, UH, PUSH THIS OFF FOR THIS WEEK AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE GENTLEMEN HERE I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM MYSELF, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WALL, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY PUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PART OF IT SO WE CAN SEE ONE EMPLOYEE IS NOT FAIR FOR THE BIG SPACE AND THAT AREA.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER, OR IS IT A REPRESENTATIVE LIKE FROM AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM? UH, REPRESENTATIVE IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE ABC CONSULTANT.
OH, THAT'S PROCESSING THE LICENSED EXPANSION BECAUSE I MEAN, WE CAN ALSO SPEAK TO THE BUSINESS OWNER IF, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO OPERATE AT THE END OF THE DAY EASIER BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE INTIMATE, UM, CONNECTION OBVIOUSLY TO THE RESTAURANT AND HOW IT OPERATES.
UM, DAVID, DID THEY PLAN ON BEING HERE TONIGHT? YES.
UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER LAST MINUTE EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS STATING THAT THEY'RE RUNNING LATE.
ROY, JUST AS A POINT OF, I GUESS, ORDER DO, CAN WE JUST CONTINUE THE ITEM BEFORE WE CONTINUE AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT? OR SHOULD WE HEAR THAT? AND THEN CONTINUE THE ITEM IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO DO.
I GUESS PUBLIC HEARINGS ALREADY OPEN, YOU HAVE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU, YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION AND YOU CAN MOVE IT TO LATER ON IN THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING LATER IF YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA.
BUT SINCE YOU DID OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU NEED TO CLOSE IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN CONTINUE IT TO LATER IN THE MEETING.
OR DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER FROM STAFF ? UM, NO.
UM, I WOULD JUST STRESS THAT, UM, EITHER THE REPRESENTATIVE OR THE BUSINESS OWNER, I MEAN, I THINK IDEALLY IT WOULD BE THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING THE BUSINESS AND THE EXPANSION AND SO FORTH.
AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM DIRECTLY.
WAS THERE A REASON WHY THEY WEREN'T? I MEAN, IF THEY WERE MADE AWARE, I DIDN'T GET ANY CONFIRMATION FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, AT THIS POINT, WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYBODY THAT'S HERE, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
SO SEEING NO ONE HERE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND CALLING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE LAST ITEM IN THE AGENDA.
THIS EVENING, IF THE APPLICANT AND OR BUSINESS OWNER ARE HERE, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT.
UM, IF NOT, THEN WE CAN MOVE IT TO A MEETING IN THE FUTURE.
DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, ROY? YES.
EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
WHO SECONDED? WAS IT MUNOZ IT MICHELLE COMMISSIONER BURNER.
WE'LL MOVE TO, UM, OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING PROCEDURE WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
A CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST.
AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS THAT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTURE.
AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU'LL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS AT THE TABLE ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
UH, TWO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THIS EVENING MOVING FORWARD ARE A DULY NOTICE TO PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO SIX FOR PUBLIC ART, A MURAL AT 9 0 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
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DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE PROJECT, UM, FOR HOWARD'S AT 9 0 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, THE APPLICANT HOWARD'S APPLIANCE IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A PUBLIC ART MURAL PAINTED ON AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN EAST SIDE OF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY TO THE WEST OF HARBOR BOULEVARD, PROPERTY ZONE, C2 WITH A PUD OVERLAY.
UM, THE SITE IS OCCUPIED BY THE HOWARD'S APPLIANCE STORE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1981.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE STREET LOOKING, UH, IN THE NORTH NORTHERLY DIRECTION FROM IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
THE MURAL IS PAINTED ON THE EAST FACING WALL OF THE HOWARD'S APPLIANCE STORE, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM THE ADJACENT ALDI MARKET AND WESTBOUND TRAFFIC ON IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
THE EASTERN WALL OF THE BUILDING IS DIRECTLY ON THE PROPERTY LINE, MEANING IT'S A ZERO FOOT SETBACK.
THE MURAL IS APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET TALL BY 40 FEET WIDE.
AND THE WALL ON WHICH IT'S PAINTED IS ABOUT 28 FEET TALL BY 70 FEET WIDE.
THEREFORE THE MURAL COVERS ABOUT 40% OF THE WALL.
IT DEPICTS HOWARD'S FIRST STORE IN SAN GABRIEL.
HOWARD'S WAS ESTABLISHED OVER 75 YEARS AGO AND CURRENTLY HAS 14 STORES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHICH INCLUDES THE ONE IN LA HABRA.
SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO A HUMBER MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 18.0 6.040 A OF THE MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL CODE AS IT IS A USE, NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED FOR THE SPECIFIC ZONE AND IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR A DETERMINATION IS MADE THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO ANOTHER PERMITTED OR CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED TO USE IN THAT ZONE.
THEY PROPOSE PUBLIC ART IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE IS SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO PUBLIC ART AS PERMITTED IN PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, EXCUSE ME, BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL ZONE AS PER SECTION 18.2 6.040 POINT C TO C ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE THERE.
THE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE FOR THE CONDITIONING IS PERMIT.
THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RECORD QUEST THE CHRIS AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, UH, COMMISSIONER BERNIER.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR HOWARD'S? HI.
UM, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM REALLY QUICK? OKAY, GOOD EVENING.
UM, MY, MY, UH, ACTUALLY IS JUST A STATEMENT REALLY.
UM, HOWARD'S I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS HOWARD'S HERE A LITTLE HOMBRE.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1980, BUT THEY WERE VERY INTEGRAL IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
AND THEY USED TO BRING OUT, UH, DODGERS PLAYERS AND ANGELS PLAYERS TO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, STEVE SAX, RON SAY, UM, ALL, ALL OF THEM.
ALL OF THEM I'VE GOT PICTURES AND STUFF.
SO I WOULD LIKE IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, FOR THEM TO ADD AS A LA HABRA ONTO IT LAHABRA AND THE, THE YEAR THAT THE BUILDING CAME, MICHELLE, JUST AS A POINT OF RECORD, I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE HAVE A DIALOGUE HERE.
UM, SO IF WE'RE GOOD WITH STAFF WOULD JUST GO VICE CHAIR, YOU GUYS CAN STAY RIGHT THERE PLEASE.
UH, VICE CHAIR MUNOZ, ANYTHING OF STAFF? YEAH.
UM, I KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE, UM, AND NOT SPECIFIC WELL, UM, TO THE MURAL ITSELF, BUT I KNOW WE'VE IN THE PAST CITY COUNCIL, WE HAD A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM OR LIKE AN ORDINANCE THAT WENT BEFORE AND THEN THEY TABLED IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT AS IT KIND OF RELATES, IT'S HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART FOR THE NIGHT.
WE DID, WE DID TAKE THAT ORDINANCE TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED PEOPLE TO DO PUBLIC ART, YOU KNOW, SO THIS, THIS IS DIFFERENT IN THAT RESPECT BECAUSE THIS IS VOLUNTARY.
UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL COUNCIL DIDN'T ACTUALLY APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME, UM, THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL HAVE BEEN CONDITIONING PROJECTS TO INCLUDE PUBLIC ART.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL.
UM, SO THE COUNCIL DIDN'T DENY THAT ORDINANCE.
THEY JUST TABLED IT FOR, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SO WE PLAN ON TAKING THAT BACK, THE COUNCIL SOMETIME THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO HAVE THEM REVISIT THAT.
SO WE CAN GET, GET THIS CODIFIED AND GET TO PROCEDURES ESTABLISHED.
BUT RIGHT NOW, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE
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ANY ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES, UM, WE'RE USING THE CUP PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN AVENUE TO HAVE, HAVE SOME CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS LIKE MAINTENANCE AND GRAFFITI AND, AND THINGS THAT WE'D GET CONCERNED WHEN YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC ART IN, UH, ON, UH, ON A BUILDING, UH, BECAUSE IT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY.IT, IF, IF WE DON'T CALL IT ART, WE'D HAVE TO CALL IT A SIGN, RIGHT? WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PAINT SOMETHING ON A COMMERCIAL BUILDING LIKE THIS, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY A SIGN, YOU KNOW, IN THE SIGN CODE, WOULDN'T PERMIT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'VE DECIDED FOR RIGHT NOW, TILL WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT THE CUP PROCESS GIVES US THE LATITUDE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO DO THESE TYPES OF, UM, PROJECTS.
AND ALSO, UM, WE ARE NOT CHARGING THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PARTICULAR CUP.
WE ARE USING MONEY FROM THE ARTS FUND WHERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAID IN LIEU OF FEE INSTEAD OF ART IN, INTO THE PROGRAM, UM, TO COVER THE COSTS OF PROCESSING THE CEP.
THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THE REST OF, OKAY, PERFECT.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL WELCOME.
UM, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM HOWARD'S AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
SO FEEL FREE TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER BERNIER, UH, GLADLY.
SO MY NAME IS MIKE SANCHEZ AND I CONSIDER MYSELF PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE COMPANY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY SINCE 1997.
SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AUTOGRAPH SIGNINGS AND THE COMMERCIALS OF ALL THE BASEBALL PLAYERS AND SUCH ON A VERY BIG PART OF OUR HERITAGE, BUT THE SAN GABRIEL STORE, UM, IS OUR OLDEST STORE.
AND THAT'S THE MURAL THAT'S THERE.
AND A BIG PART OF OUR HISTORY AS LAHABRA HAS NOW BECOME, BECAUSE IT IS NOW OUR OLDEST STORE IN THE COMPANY'S IN ST.
UM, WE'VE BEEN A BIG PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND TOP 25 TAX REVENUE PRODUCERS YEAR OVER YEAR.
UM, AND VERY PROUD OF THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE, UM, ASKED FOR YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION OF THE MURAL, UM, AGAIN, A VERY PROUD PART OF OUR HERITAGE AND, UM, YEAH.
JUST BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JUST MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY THING FOR MR. SANCHEZ.
NO, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS IF WE COULD ADD THE, THE HARBOR ESTABLISHED DATE, THE 1980 ON THERE, 1981.
WE CAN BACK OUT AND HAVE THAT.
AND SINCE IT'S THE OLDEST, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS LAHABRA, THEY WERE SO INTEGRAL IN THE COMMUNITY, JUST DEFINITELY WANT THEM TO, YOU KNOW, SEE SHOW THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY STILL.
UM, WHAT INSPIRED THE MURAL? WAS IT, I MEAN, NOT THE ACTUAL MURAL ITSELF, BUT PLACING THE MURAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WAS IT BECAUSE OF GRAFFITI? WAS IT THE LOCATION WHERE YOU GUYS WON? IT'S BECAUSE WE HAD THE BIG GREEN MONSTER THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND OUR CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD COME IN AFFECTIONATELY CALLED IT, MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BRING TO THE MEETING.
UM, AND OUR CEO REALLY WANTED TO DO A NICE LOOK RIGHT NEXT TO US.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BUILDING AND ESTABLISHMENT AND GROWTH, AND WE JUST REALLY WERE VERY PROUD OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE THAT PROPERTY A NEW LOOK, A NEW PROFESSIONAL FEEL, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THE HERITAGE AND THE HISTORY BEHIND HOWARD'S AND HOW LONG THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE NUMBER ONE REGIONAL IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MARKET.
SO WE HAVE A VERY BIG FOOTPRINT HERE AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF IT.
AND AS MIKE ALLUDED TO, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO CALL OUT, UM, MY FAULT, BECAUSE I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS AREA THREE YEARS INTO IT.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I NEEDED TO FILE FOR A PERMIT FIRST.
WE MET, NO, WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
AND, UM, WE DIDN'T MEAN TO DO ANYTHING WRONG BY IT.
KATHY, WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME? GENOVESE.
COULD YOU SPELL THAT FOR US? G E N O V E S E.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO, BUT BEFORE YOU LEAVE TONIGHT, IF YOU COULD JUST FILL OUT A, UM, A CAR TO SPEAKER CARD, UM, AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THE PODIUM, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR YOU THOUGH.
UM, BUT FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE WILL HEAR FROM ANYBODY THAT'S HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING THEN WE CAN CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WOULD ADD A SPECIAL CONDITION TO IN THE MOTION.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD THE HARBOR ESTABLISHED 1981 TO THE PROJECT.
I NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION TITLE AND A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR APPROVING
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CONDITIONAL PERMITS, 22 0 6 FOR PUBLIC ART MURAL AT 9 0 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AS MODIFIED.DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR A SECOND? PERFECT.
EVERYBODY, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES AND MOTION PASSES.
IT WILL BE CONFINED ON 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY.
COUNCIL COMMISSIONER BERNAY WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE AT LEAST SIX FEET TALL, IF YOU COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THE NEXT ITEM THIS EVENING IS, UM, A DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO NINE FOR MORE PUBLIC ART, A MURAL AT 1 0 1 WEST WHITTIER BOULEVARD.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
ALRIGHTY, GOOD NEEDLING NUMBER TWO, MURAL.
SO I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, THE PROPOSAL FOR THE MURAL AT 1 0 1 WEST WHITTIER BOULEVARD, THE APPLICANT CLARA WAS ITALIAN MARKET IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR PUBLIC ART, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY TWO MURALS PAINTED ON THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROPERTIES LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF WHITTIER BOULEVARD TO THE WEST OF EUCLID STREET.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED TO C2 AND THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY DECIDE IS OCCUPIED BY THE CLARA WAS ITALIAN MARKET, WHICH IS ONE OF SIX STORES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS A VIEW TO THE STORE LOOKING AT NORTHERLY AND WHEN YOU'RE BOULEVARD AND YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY BOTH MURALS IN THIS SHOT.
SO THE FIRST AND THE LARGEST MURAL IS PLACED ON THE EAST FACING WALL OF CLAROS, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM EUCLID STREET IN WESTBOUND TRAFFIC ON WHAT YOUR BOULEVARD, THE EASTERN WALL OF THE BUILDING IS ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT AND IS SET.
UM, THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY SET BACK 40 FEET FROM THE EAST PROPERTY LINE.
THE MURAL IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET TALL BY 16 FEET WIDE, AND, UM, IS ACTUALLY SITUATED TOWARDS THE FRONT HALF OF THE BUILDING.
THESE BUILDING WALLS ABOUT 20 FEET TALL BY 120 FEET WIDE.
AND THEREFORE THE MURAL COVERS ABOUT 5% OF THE WALL.
THE MURAL IS A BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO THAT DEPICTS FRANK IN JOE CLARO WORKING BEHIND THE COUNTER SOMETIME IN THE LATE 1940S.
THE SECOND AND SMALLEST MURAL IS PLACED ON THE SOUTH FACING WALL OF CLAROS, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM WHAT YOUR BOULEVARD, THE SOUTHERN WALL OF THE BUILDING IS ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND IS SET BACK ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
THE MURAL IS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET TALL BY THREE FEET WIDE AND IS ON THE LEFT OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING WALL.
THE SOUTH BUILDING WALL IS ABOUT 20 FEET TALL BY 40 FEET WIDE IN THE MURAL, THEREFORE COVERS ABOUT 2% OF THAT WALL, THIS MURAL AS WELL.
SO A BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO THAT DEPICTS FLANK, FRANK CLARA WITH A HANGING SALAMIS AS SIMILAR TO THE, UH, HOWARD'S MURAL.
UM, THIS PRO PROP PROPOSED PROJECT IS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO LAHABRA MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 18.0 6.040 A AS IT IS A USE NOT SPECIFIC LIST SPECIFICALLY LISTED AND IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEF UH, BEFORE A DETERMINATION CAN BE MADE THAT THE USE IS SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO ANOTHER PERMITTED OR CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN THAT ZONE.
THE PRO UH, PROPOSED PUBLIC ART IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE IS, IS I'M HAVING TWISTERS HERE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO PUBLIC ART AS PERMITTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AS PER SECTION 18.2 6.040 POINT C TO SEE ALL THE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AND MY APPLICANT IS NOT HERE.
THANK YOU, CHRIS, AT THIS TIME, UM, WE'LL ASK THE COMMISSION, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER BURNEY, IS IT A PHOTOGRAPH OR IS IT AN ART PIECE? LIKE, IS IT PAINTED IT'S IT? WELL, THEY ARE PHOTOGRAPHS.
THEY WERE S THEY WERE BLOWN UP ON A BIGGER SHEETS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOUNTED ON A, UM, SOME KIND OF LARGE SHEET, UM, LIKE A, UM, CANVAS OR SOMETHING OR SOMETHING IT'S MORE DURABLE THAN CANVAS IT'S DESIGNED TO BE OUTSIDE.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL WITHSTAND THE WEATHER AND STUFF WITH IT.
LIKE THEY, THEY CLEARED IT CAUSE MOST OUR MURALS ARE LIKE CODED.
SO THAT'S MY, I WENT OUT THERE AND TOUCH IT.
IN FACT, THE ONE, THE SMALLER ONE IS ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THE EAVE.
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THAT PROTECTS THE SMALL ONES.SO I COULD SEE THE BIGGER ONE, MAYBE GETTING FADED.
DO WE, UH, DO WE KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE? YEAH, IT WAS PART OF THE REMODEL, RIGHT? WHEN THEY UPDATED THE RIGHT.
SO THEY, THEY PUT, UM, THEY PAINTED NEW SIGNS AND THEY DIDN'T LET US KNOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THE MURALS UP IN THOSE KINDS OF, UH, WE, WE WENT OUT THERE AND SAW IT AFTER THE FACT, UM, AS SOME OF THESE GIRLS.
SO, BUT THEY WERE VERY RE ONCE THEY WERE NOTIFIED, THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIVE AND THEY CAME IN RIGHT AWAY AND SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION.
IS IT THE SAME THING AS HOW WORDS ARE WE USING LIKE ART FUNDS FOR THEIR CDP PROCESS? YES, SIR.
SO WE HAVE THAT POT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO PAY FOR THIS.
SO IT'S, UM, NO EXPENSE TO THEM.
SO THE FIRST PICTURE OF THE BROTHERS, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE BROTHERS, IT'S ACTUALLY FATHER AND SON.
IS THAT OF THAT LOCATION? NO, THIS IS THE, THEIR FIRST LOCATION.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN SAN GABRIEL ACTUALLY, LET ME, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
KIND OF GOING OFF OF WHAT COMMISSIONER BERNIER SAID FOR THE HOWARDS ONE.
I MEAN, I LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT TELLS A STORY AND I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE LOCATION.
I MEAN, BESIDES THAT THEY HAVE GREAT SANDWICHES.
UM, BUT YEAH, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A REFERENCE OR LIKE WHEN THAT GOT ESTABLISHED.
THE, THE CHAIN OR THE FIRST STORE WAS ESTABLISHED IN, UM, LIKE 19 48, 19 49.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN SO 62, I BELIEVE IT'S OUR KT OR ST.
GABRIEL OVER IN THAT, THAT AREA.
AND THIS WAS A STORE THAT WAS LATER ADDED TO THE CHAIN.
ROY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW LONG CLARIS HAS BEEN HERE? A LONG TIME SAFE TO SAY 30, 30, 40 YEARS PLUS HAS BEEN HERE AT LEAST 40 YEARS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND ONE KIND OF EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE PICTURE IS AND THEN TO LIKE, UM, COMMISSIONER, BRING HER SAY THAT ESTABLISHMENT IRRELEVANT TO THE ACTUAL LOCATION.
THAT WAY IT'S, THEY'RE KIND OF TELLING THE STORY.
YEAH, LET'S DO, WE'LL DO PUBLIC HERE.
AND THEN I, I DEFINITELY WANT TO KNOW IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON IT TO KEEP IT FROM, UH, FADING, CAUSE THAT'D BE UNFORTUNATE TO SEE IT PEEL AND FADE OVER TIME.
IT DID A GREAT JOB ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE STORE.
IF YOU, IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE PAINT JOB, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
UH, THE, UH, WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT IF WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S SOME TYPE OF EXPLANATION FOR THE SIGN FOR THEM TO PERHAPS HANG THAT INSIDE THE BUSINESS WITH AN EXPLANATION ON WHAT'S OUT THAT SIDE, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE ART PIECE AND ADDING THINGS TO IT THAT START TO NOT BE ART.
SO JUST TRYING TO STAY CLOSE TO THAT OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN AT LEAST, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT, THE WAY THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED SINCE THESE ARE ALREADY PRINTED AND IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME AS THE PAINTED MURAL WHERE WE'RE ADDING PAINT TO A MURAL, WE'D BE ADDING SOMETHING TO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY PRINTED.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THEM.
I THINK IT WOULD BE UNDERNEATH IT.
I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY ON THE ACTUAL ART PIECE TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
MY ONLY THING IS LIKE, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S WALKING AND THEN THEY SEE IT AND THEN BECAUSE IT'S SO VISIBLE FROM THE SIDEWALK, I THINK IT WILL BE MORE BENEFICIAL AND NOTHING MEAN LARGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
JUST TO KIND OF TELL THE STORY KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU'D SEE IN A GALLERY.
WELL, COMMISSIONERS, ACTUALLY THESE PICTURES ARE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND THEY SCROLL AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE LITTLE DESCRIPTIONS NEXT TO IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE WEBSITE, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.
UH, AT THIS TIME LET'S OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, IF YOU WISH TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW.
SO SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TO ANYONE IN OPPOSITION, MAYBE THOSE FOLKS FROM HOWARD'S PERFECT.
WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL CALL ON THE COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR EMOTION JUST, YEAH.
UM, ADDING A SPECIAL CONDITION TO HAVE, UM, IDENTIFICATION MARKER ON BOTH MURALS ON THE EXTERIOR, UH, SIMILAR TO LIKE A GALLERY, WHAT IT WOULD, UH, REFERENCE THE ACTUAL PICTURE AND THEN THE ESTABLISHED DATE OF THE BUSINESS IN LAHABRA.
SO I MAKE THE MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA APPROVING MODIFICATION, 22
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DASH ZERO AND MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 DASH 14 FOR AN ABC TYPE BUSINESS YET.OH NO, THIS IS ANOTHER I'M SORRY, SORRY.
IT RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO NINE FOR PUBLIC ART MURAL.
UH, 1 0 1 WEST WHITTIER BOULEVARD AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AS MODIFIED.
I'LL SECOND THAT, SO MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY VICE-CHAIR MONOS AND SECONDED BY CHAIR MANLEY, AND WE CAN ENTER OUR VOTES MOTION PASSES AND THAT, UH, WE COME FINAL IN 10 WORKING DAY.
SO UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
DO WE, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY CONSIDERATION ITEMS THIS EVENING? OKAY.
UM, CAN WE HEAR ABOUT THOSE GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS? THE ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS A LARGE SPECIAL EVENT, UH, PROPOSED, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AMAZON FRESH GROCERY STORE.
AND, UM, WE HAVE THE AERIAL UP.
SO THE ORIGINAL KOHL'S BUILDING WAS SPLIT OR SUBDIVIDED, WHICH CREATED THE AMAZON, UH, SWEET KOHL'S IS OPERATING, UM, OUT OF THE EASTERLY AND, AND AMAZON FRESH IS ON THE WEST SIDE NEAR THE HOPPER HILLS DRIVE, UM, AS AMAZON FRESH BEGAN OR OPEN THEIR DOORS IN DECEMBER 16TH, 2021.
AND THIS IS THEIR FIRST SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT REQUEST.
THE EVENT IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH, WHICH IS TOMORROW AND CLEAN UP AND REMOVAL BY MONDAY, MARCH 28TH.
THE ACTUAL EVENT DATES ARE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16TH THROUGH SUNDAY, MARCH 27TH.
AND THAT WOULD BE FOR 12 CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
UM, EVENT ACTIVITIES WILL BEGIN AT 11:00 AM AND CEASE BY 8:00 PM.
UH, THE EVENT WE'LL HAVE OVERNIGHT SECURITY TO MONITOR THE EVENT.
UH, THE SPECIAL EVENT POLICY GUIDELINES REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT CONSISTS OF MORE THAN FOUR CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T SUBMISSION TIME FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, WHICH IS ALSO REQUIRED FOR LARGE SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, THE SPECIAL ED POLICY GUIDELINES.
THEY'RE NOT CODIFIED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AN EXCEPTION WAS MADE, UH, BASED ON THE PROJECT'S LOCATION AND THE NATURE OF THE EVENT, WHICH IS CONTAINED ON THE PROPERTY.
AND, UM, IT'S THE FIRST EVENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THE EVENT IS GOING TO BE A PROPOSAL ALONG THE FRONT OF THE STOREFRONT FOR AMAZON FRESH, AND IT EVOLVES A USE OF A 20 FOOT BY 10 FOOT WOODEN BOOTH STRUCTURE.
THE EVENT ACTIVITIES WILL INCLUDE MUSIC, FOOD, AND BEVERAGE SAMPLING, INCLUDING WINE DEMONSTRATIONS, SILK SCREEN STATION, CARNIVAL GAMES, WHICH INVOLVE A RING TOSS AND SAND BAG TOSS AND EVENT SWEEPSTAKES.
UH, THIS EVENT IS SUSPECTED TO DRAW BETWEEN 600 TO 1000 PERSONS OVER AN EIGHT HOUR DAY, A SECURITY GUARD AND 10 SUPPORTING STAFF MEMBERS WILL BE ON SITE FOR LAND CONTROL AND CRACK CONTROL DURING THE PEAK HOURS, WHICH ARE EXPECTED FROM 4:00 PM TO 6:00 PM.
THE 20 FOOT BY 10 FOOT WOOD STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE PLACED AGAINST THE, UM, AMAZON FRESH STOREFRONT NEAR THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND ALL THE EVENT ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING THE STRUCTURE WILL STILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT, UH, ACCESS OR CLEARANCE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND ADA.
THIS IS THE RENDERING PROVIDED OF THE STRUCTURE AND IT ALSO HAS THE SAMPLING CART.
WELL, THEY'LL HAVE ONSITE THAT'S MOVEABLE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO FOOD AND BEVERAGE SAMPLING WILL TAKE PLACE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE GROCERY STORE, THE ALCOHOL SAMPLING WILL TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE GROCERY STORE.
AS THE FACILITY HAS THE ACTIVE TYPE 86 ABC LICENSE, THE INSTRUCTIONAL TASTING LICENSE, TEMPORARY FLAGS BANNERS WILL ALSO BE USED TO ADVERTISE THE EVENT.
UM, ALL EVENT ACTIVITIES ARE, UH, CONDUCTED ON THE PROPERTY, THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL AREAS, APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET TO THE EAST, UH, WITH NO DIRECT ACCESS
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TO THIS EVENT AREA IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THE OPERATION OF THIS EVENT WILL POSE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA.UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE EVENT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS WHICH WE'VE USED FOR OTHER SIMILAR, LARGE, SPECIAL EVENTS.
UH, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AT THIS POINT, WE'LL CALL THEM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY DISCUSSION OR A MOTION COMMISSIONER BERNAY.
UM, THIS IS A REALLY QUICK APPROVAL THAT LIKE IT'S GOING TO START TOMORROW.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, SINCE FEBRUARY AND THERE WAS A DELAY IN OBTAINING PROPERTY AND OUR AUTHORIZATION, UH, KOHL'S ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY.
UH, BUT THERE THEY ARE AN OUT-OF-STATE OWNER.
UM, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WE WOULD DO THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, THE 300 FOOT RADIUS.
UM, BUT WE, UH, TRY TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY AS AMAZON FRESH IS, IS BRAND NEW AND THEY BARELY OPENED TO THE PUBLIC.
SO ALL OF THEIR STAGING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE EXISTING SIDEWALK, RIGHT? THE ONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
SO IS A VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND THE REMAIN THE SAME.
UH, VEHICLE ACCESS IN FRONT OF THE STOREFRONT WILL NOT BE IMPEDED.
SO ALL THE BOOTS, UH, SETUPS, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THERE IS ENOUGH BECAUSE YEAH.
CAUSE MY, MY ISSUE IS LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE GETTING FOOD AND CUING AND KIND OF DOING ALL THAT.
AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF IT SPILLS OVER ONTO THE ROAD OR THE DRIVEWAY, CAUSE WHAT'S THAT DEPTH OF THAT SIDEWALK.
CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE 10 FEET DEEP.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY AT MOST, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE IT'S GOING TO BE TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO LIKE GO UP, WALK TO IT AND GET WHATEVER FOOD OR WHATEVER THEY GET FOR SWAG OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE OUT.
ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT THERE, THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE THREE FEET OR MORE IN FRONT OF THE BOOTH TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB.
AND IT VARIES A SIDEWALK DOES VARY BASED ON THE FACADE.
SO IN CERTAIN SECTIONS THEY MIGHT BE NARROWER THAN OTHERS.
DO YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? YEAH.
MAYBE YOU COULD SHARE WITH US, JUST GIVE US YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME PLEASE.
IT'S A MATT SALTZMAN, PERSONALIZED MATT SALZMAN.
YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH.
UM, SO THE ACTIVITIES ARE NOT INTENDED FOR PUBLIC GATHERING.
THEY'RE JUST INTENDED FOR SAMPLING OF CONSUMERS AND FOOT TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE STORE.
UM, SO WE DON'T INTEND FOR THERE TO BE LARGE GATHERINGS OR LARGE LINES FOR ANY PARTICULAR ACTIVITY.
AND THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF ACTIVITIES THAT'S INTENDED TO SPREAD OUT ANY FOOT TRAFFIC.
IS THERE, IF THERE IS LIKE SORT OF A CRITICAL MASS, IF YOU WERE TO USE THAT, ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T SAY CRITICAL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY PAINTING IT IN THE WRONG LIGHT.
UM, DAVID, UM, DESCRIBED IT WELL, THERE IS A VARIANCE IN THAT DEPTH, BUT WE WERE BEING CAREFUL TO ONLY USE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE VARIANCE.
SO IF YOU'LL SEE IN THE DEMONSTRATION THERE WHERE THE ADA FOOTPRINT IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LITTLE THINNER, UH, IN ANOTHER AREAS IT'S A LITTLE WIDER.
SO WE'LL BE PLACING ACTIVATIONS IN THE WIDER AREAS, UH, THAT SHOULD ALLOW BETWEEN SIX TO EIGHT FEET OF FULL DEPTH.
OBVIOUSLY THE PLANTERS SOMETIMES, UH, GET IN THE WAY, BUT HOPEFULLY PEDESTRIANS ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE PLANTER, SO PROTECTED THEORETICALLY.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL MAINTAIN THE APPROPRIATE ADA PATHWAY.
SO IN THAT 10 TO 20 FOOT AREA, 10 BY 20 FOOT AREA, THAT'S WHERE LIKE THAT POP-UP THAT YOU SHOWED US DAVID THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD BE.
AND THAT POPUP ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR PEDESTRIANS IN AND OUT OF IT.
SO, UH, IT DOESN'T PREVENT PEDESTRIANS AND PUSH THEM FURTHER OUT.
IT'S ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OUT OF THAT SPACE AND PASS THROUGH IT WITH FULL CLEARANCE.
UM, BEYOND THAT STRUCTURE SEEMS LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT'S MORE LINEAR, LIKE DOWN THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THE BEST EXAMPLE, ACTUALLY, DAVID, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WITH THE STRUCTURE, UM, ON THE VERY LEFT, YOU SEE THAT WALL THAT HAS SORT OF THE TILES ON THE SIDES OF IT.
UM, THERE'S A FEW OTHER WALLS.
SO WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT THE GAMES, THEY ARE THAT DIMENSION.
SO THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT TWO AND A HALF, UH, BETWEEN THREE FEET IN DEPTH.
UH, AND THEY'RE EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE SET UP LINEAR, UH, AND THEY'RE INTERACTED WITH, FROM FRONT TO BACK.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, VOLUME AND DEPTH TO THEM.
WHAT'S THE OBJECTIVE, MATT JUST LIKE EXPOSURE FOR THE STORE.
AMAZON IS ADVERTISING THAT IT'S A NEW STORE.
THIS EVENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN DECEMBER
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WHEN THE STORE OPENED, BUT, UH, AMAZON EVALUATED TO PUSH IT BACK DUE TO COVID.UM, IF YOU WILL, WHICH I THINK ACTUALLY IS IN FAVOR OF, UH, YOU KNOW, REDUCING A QUOTE UNQUOTE CRITICAL MASS BECAUSE THE STORE HAS BEEN OPEN AND OPERATING.
SO THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A MASSIVE VISITORS.
THIS STORE HAS ALREADY EXPERIENCED THAT GRAND OPENING MOMENT, IF YOU WILL.
UM, WHAT THEY'VE DONE INSTEAD IS THAT THEY'VE JUST SHIFTED SOME OF THEIR MARKETING AND AWARENESS AROUND THE STORE BEING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO THIS IS A MOMENT JUST TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT MOMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, HOW HAS THIS EVENT BEEN ADVERTISED? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, SO I DON'T WORK ON THAT SIDE OF IT.
I'M SOLELY THE EVENT PRODUCER, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS IT'S IN, UH, ON TV COMMERCIALS, UH, AND ON RADIO.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STAFF LIKE STAFFING THIS EYE ON THE OUTSIDE.
WE HAVE BRAND AMBASSADORS THAT WILL INTERACT WITH CONSUMERS.
WE HAVE PRODUCTION STAFF THAT WILL SUPPORT AS DAVID SAID, LINE OPERATION.
AND THE BRAND AMBASSADORS ARE BASED OFF OF THE PRODUCTS OR ARE THEY AMAZON WORKERS? UH, BASED OFF OF THE PRODUCTS.
SO THE BRAND AMBASSADORS ARE HIRED INDEPENDENTLY FROM AMAZON.
YOU'LL HAVE SOME ACTUAL AMAZON EMPLOYEES.
UH, THE EMPLOYEES ARE JUST RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS STORE.
THEY WON'T BE OUTSIDE, UM, IN THE ACTIVATION FOOTPRINT.
SO OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ENTIRELY INDEPENDENT FROM AMAZON'S OPERATION THOUGH.
THEY WILL LOOK LIKE AMAZON BECAUSE THEY'RE WEARING A UNIFORM.
YOU WANT ME TO SEE ARE JUST YOUR, YOUR PEOPLE.
SO AMAZON HIRED A COMPANY THAT I WORKED FOR AS LIKE AN EXPERIENTIAL AGENCY, I'M IN A MARKETING AGENCY.
SO I WORK AS A EVENT PRODUCER WITH EXPERTISE IN THAT INDUSTRY.
YOU'LL HAVE THE BRAND AMBASSADORS THERE AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OWN STAFF.
I THINK DAVID WAS THROWING AT US LIKE FOUR TO 10 OR SOMETHING.
WE'LL HAVE FOUR STAFF MEMBERS AND SIX BRAND AMBASSADORS AND A SECURITY GUARD.
SO CAN YOU, UM, UH, LET US KNOW IF YOUR GUYS WILL HELP WITH TRAFFIC, JUST LIKE MUNOZ WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT'S BUSY, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WATCHING PEOPLE GO GOING BACK AND FORTH.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN HERE.
WE, SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, AND I, I HEAR THAT CONCERN AND, AND OUR, OUR, OUR SECURITY AND OUR STAFF WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO TAKE EXTRA SPECIAL CARE WITH THAT LINE.
SECURITY IS WHAT TIME IT'S NOT THE WHOLE TIME.
WE HAVE IT 3:00 PM TILL OVERNIGHT UNTIL 7:00 AM.
AND SO THE INTENTION THERE IS BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX AS QUOTE UNQUOTE PEAK HOURS.
THAT'S LIKE THE AFTER WORK HOUR WHEN PEOPLE COME BACK FROM WORK AND SHOP ON THEIR WAY HOME.
SO WE'LL HAVE SECURITY COVERAGE DURING THAT PEAK TIMEFRAME.
UH, I'D MAKE A MOTION APPROVING RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, THE SABLE HOPPER APPROVING SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO TWO TO CONDUCT A LARGE SPECIAL EVENT AT 16, 10 WEST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY, BY, UH, BY CHAIR, MANLY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSION.
AND DAVID DID A WONDERFUL JOB HELPING US WITH THIS PROCESS, SO I THANK HIM AS WELL.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF THIS EVENING? WELL, WE HAVE AN UNFINISHED ITEM OF BUSINESS YOU NEED TO REVISIT.
SO YOU CONTINUED THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
SO YOU NEED TO, UM, DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO REOPEN IT OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE IT AGAIN? AND ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE IT TO TWO WEEKS? ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE IT TO DATE UNCERTAIN SO THAT DAVID CAN CONTACT THE OWNER AND MAKE SURE HE'S REALLY GOING TO BE HERE? UM, YEAH.
WITH LIKE SOME VOUCHERS FOR MICHELLE AND MANNY TOO FOR FREE BARBECUE.
UM, YEAH, I, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE JUST CONTINUE THE ITEM TO A DATE, UNCERTAIN AND STAFF CAN DIRECT, UH, THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THEIR PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY THEMSELVES HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND THEN JUST ADD TO THAT? UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE ACTUAL, IT CAN BE THE BUSINESS OWNERS.
ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE GOING TO OPERATE IN.
I'LL MAKE SURE I HAVE BOTH JUST IN CASE.
SHOULD WE ENTER OUR VOTES FOR THAT? YES.
WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, RAY, UH, JUST A HEADS UP FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING.
IN TWO WEEKS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF A ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS AND THEY'RE SMALL CLEANUP IN NATURE.
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WITH STATE LAWS AND DO SOME PROCEDURAL CHANGES TO MAKE THINGS GO A LITTLE EASIER FOR THE APPLICANTS.IS THAT THE EXTENT OF, OF WHAT'S COMING UP? UH, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE RECYCLING CENTER AT, UM, STATER BROTHERS AND MAYBE THIRD.
WELL, YEAH, MAYBE, UM, MAYBE BIG BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE ON WEDNESDAY.
SO IF DAVID CAN'T GET A COMMITMENT OUT OF THEM BY WEDNESDAY, IT WON'T BE AN UNSTOPPABLE.
UH, ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER YANG? UH, NOPE.
THEY WERE, I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE US APPROVING MURALS MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY.
UM, I THINK PUBLIC ART IS GREAT AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD WITH IT AND HOPEFULLY GET A CODIFIED IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE.
IS THAT, WHAT WAS IT? COWS AND BRAN.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? WAS IT SHEEP? COWS? I THINK BRIA HAD COWS AND THEN OF COURSE FULLERTON ALWAYS HAS THEIR HEARTS AND I THINK THEY MAY HAVE HAD COWS TOO IN FULLERTON.
AND THEN THE CITY I FORMERLY WORKED FOR HAD A CERTAIN KIND OF RODENT THAT THEY PUT IT AROUND.
WE, WE SAID WE JUST SET TRAPS HERE.
NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING TO MONDAY, APRIL 11TH.