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SIGNED UP DOM, A COLD[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, JUNE 27, 2022 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
GOOD AFTERNOON.AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
WELL, THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER SEARCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART, PLEASE.
I SEE A LITTLE FLAG OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, OR WE'RE JUST STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
VICE CHAIR, ROJAS, COMMISSIONER BERNIER HERE.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMON SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY.
MEANING LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA FOR GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 49, 5 4 0.3, A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? YOU SAID IT'S ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON THE DISPENSARY'S, WE HAVE TO WAIT.
IF NO, UH, WE WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR SPEAKING TIME AND NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS A CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO, ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM COMMISSIONER HERE? NO COMMISSIONER MANLEY.
UM, I JUST HAVE TWO MODIFICATIONS TO THE MINUTES BEFORE APPROVAL THAT I SEE, UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE THAT IT STATES CHAIR MANLEY CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER.
UM, I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THAT MEETING, SO THAT SHOULD BE CHAIR MUNOZ.
UM, AND AT THAT MEETING, WE APPROVED THE CONSENT CALENDAR, UM, INCLUDING A FOUR ZERO VOTE WITH COMMISSIONER BURNEY ABSTAINING.
UH, SO IF SHE ABSTAINED FROM THAT, UH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A THREE ZERO VOTE.
SO JUST WITH THOSE TWO MODIFICATIONS.
UM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THE APPROVAL OF ANY OF THIS, BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED HEARING? NONE AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER SURGE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE MODIFICATIONS, UM, COMMISSIONER MANLEY, UH, PRESENTED, UH, FOR THE MINUTES TO BE APPROVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER SEARCH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BERNIER.
EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE.
I DON'T THINK MY VOTING IS ON.
NO, NO, IT'S NOT ON FASHION TO GET ANYTHING, UH, ON MY SCREEN.
I HAVE WAITING FOR VOTE FOR ROJAS.
SORRY, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
MAYBE THEY WANT YOU TO GET YOUR OLD SECRETARY BACK.
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MAYBE.EVERYONE ELSE HAS LIT UP DAVID, EXCEPT FOR HERS.
SO THE AIR COULD BE UP HERE MAYBE.
MANNY IS THE ONLY ONE NOT SHOWN.
SO ALL THE OTHER VOTING BUTTONS SHOULD BE LIT UP.
CAN YOU PUT ON THAT ONE? YEAH.
SORRY, CARRIE, WHICH IS WAITING FOR, OH, SORRY.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST.
AND THE COMMISSIONER, THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS.
IF WE, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTERN.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS ARE NUMBER ONE.
DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO SEVEN FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF A HARBOR REGARDING THE RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO TWO ITEM NUMBER TWO DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO FIVE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 4 41 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA REGARDING THE RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO ONE ITEM NUMBER THREE, DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH 11 FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF A HARBOR REGARDING THE RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO THREE, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ONE THREE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1 7 2 1 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA BARBARA REGARDING THE RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THESE ITEMS? NO, WE DID NOT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YEAH.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY NOT KNOW ME.
I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
MY NAME IS SONIA LOUIE ON THE NEW PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LA HABRA.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO YOU.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, THERE ARE FOUR APPLICATIONS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
ALL OF THESE APPLICATION REQUESTS INVOLVE A PROPOSAL TO OPERATE A NON STOREFRONT COMMERCIAL CANNABIS BUSINESS.
GIVEN THE FACT WE HAVE MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR THE SAME TYPE OF REQUEST.
STAFF HAS PREPARED ONE COMBINED PRESENTATION.
THE BENEFIT HERE IS THAT STAFF WILL BE PROVIDING BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
THAT'S COMMON TO ALL OF THESE REQUESTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID BOMBARDING THE COMMISSION WITH REPETITIVE INFORMATION AFTER SHARING THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, I'LL THEN BRIEFLY GO OVER EACH APPLICATION AND ITS OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS.
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I'LL BE PRESENTING EACH OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE ORDER AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.AT THE CONCLUSION OF MY PRESENTATION STAFF, WE'LL BE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE INFORMATION PRESENTED AND THEN MAKE A MOTION ON EACH APPLICATION AS THE COMMISSION SEES FIT.
SO WITH THAT, LET ME START WITH MY PRESENTATION.
I JUST LIKE TO START BY EXPLAINING THE GENESIS OF EVENTS, WHICH LED TO ALLOWING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMERCIAL CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN LAHABRA STARTING BACK AS FAR AS 2016, THE STATE APPROVED PROPOSITION 64, THIS ENACTED THE ADULT USE OF MARIJUANA ACT, AND THIS WOULD ENABLE ADULTS 21 AND OVER TO USE POSSESS AND CULTIVATE LIMITED AMOUNTS OF MARIJUANA.
IT ALSO ESTABLISHED LICENSING, A LICENSING AND REGULATORY SCHEME FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES THAT SERVE THE RECREATIONAL MARKET FROM 2018 TO 2020, THE CITY SPENT TIME STUDYING CANNABIS ACTIVITY, INCLUDING STOREFRONT RETAIL, NON STOREFRONT, RETAIL, AND TESTING SUBSEQUENTLY IN 2020 LAHABRA VOTERS APPROVED WHAT IS KNOWN AS MEASURE W THIS ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF FOUR NON STOREFRONT CANNABIS OPERATIONS IN THE CITY IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING AND DECEMBER OF 2020, THE CITY ADOPTED NEW ZONING REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW NON STOREFRONT RETAIL, CANNABIS FACILITIES AND TESTING FACILITIES.
AND JUST AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, THE NEW ORDINANCE BECAME CHAPTER 18.22 OF THE LABRUM MUNICIPAL CODE.
ONE UNIQUE ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE IS THAT IT REQUIRED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CANNABIS REVIEW BOARD.
THE BOARD IS COMPRISED OF CITY REPRESENTATIVES.
THE CITY HAD ALSO HIRED A PROFESSIONAL CANNABIS CONSULTING FIRM SPECIFICALLY TO ASSIST WITH THE APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS.
THEY'RE TASKED WITH HELPING THE CITY IDENTIFY WHICH APPLICANTS COULD MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS BEFORE EVEN PROCEEDING WITH A FORMAL APPLICATION SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY AS STATED ENLIST STAFF REPORT, THE CITY'S POLICE PERSONNEL IS TASKED WITH CONTRIBUTING AS PART OF THE CANNABIS REVIEW BOARD BY CONDUCTING BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ALL COMMERCIAL CANNABIS APPLICANTS, AS WELL AS THEIR EMPLOYEES.
THERE WAS A 45 DAY APPLICATION REVIEW PERIOD, WHICH BEGAN MAY 14TH, 2021, AND ENDED ON JUNE 30TH, 2021.
DURING THIS TIME THE CITY'S CANNABIS REVIEW BOARD AND THE CANNABIS CONSULTING FIRM CAREFULLY VETTED THROUGH MANY APPLICATIONS, ANALYZING EACH APPLICANT'S DESCRIPTION OF THE CORPORATE STRUCTURE, EVALUATING EACH APPLICANTS, BUSINESS PLAN, SECURITY PLAN AND SAFETY PLAN.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S COMMUNITY BENEFITS PROPOSAL.
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS BUSINESSES ARE LIMITED TO THE CITY'S M ONE ZONE M ONE WITH THE PLAN HUMAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY OR THE PCI ZONE.
AS MENTIONED THE BOARD VETTED THROUGH MANY APPLICATIONS.
THESE FOUR APPLICATIONS WERE IDENTIFIED AS QUALIFYING TO SUBMIT FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION.
THAT INCLUDES THE APPLICANT FOR 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET FOR 4 0 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE AND 1721 EAST LAMBERT ROAD.
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ALSO JUST AGAIN, TO MENTION BOTH ENTITLEMENTS IT, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MUST BE APPROVED BEFORE A BUSINESS CAN OPERATE.THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL REVIEW AUTHORITY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A RECOMMENDING BODY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE THE FINAL REVIEW AUTHORITY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND UNDER EACH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE'S STIPULATING LANGUAGE REQUIRING EACH APPLICANT TO CONTRIBUTE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT PAYMENT.
THE REQUIRE PAYMENT TRANSLATES TO 0.5% ON ALL GROSS RECEIPTS, ATTRIBUTABLE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE SITE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A NEW BUSINESS OPERATOR.
AND AGAIN, AS A MATTER OF RECORD, THE TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY BOTH THE APPLICANT'S LEGAL COUNSEL AND THE CITY'S, UH, ATTORNEY I'M SORRY.
DID THAT SKIP OVER? LET'S SEE.
SO THE FIRST APPLICATION IS ON-DECK DELIVERY, LLC.
THIS IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 20 22 DASH ZERO SEVEN AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 22 DASH ZERO TWO.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 8:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR LOCATION.
THEY'RE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LESLIE STREET TO THE SOUTH.
MANY OF YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THE NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR THE LICKING INTO HOTEL AND THE TACO BELL DRIVE THROUGH ARE LOCATED IS THERE A CLOSER VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN? WHAT'S INTERESTING.
WELL, ONE POINT TO POINT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION IS THE APPLICANT DOES CURRENTLY OPERATE A CANNABIS DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS IN THE SAME BUILDING THAT'S KNOWN AS CANADA AMERICA.
THE PROPOSED NON STOREFRONT BUSINESS IS PROPOSED IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA OF THE SAME BUILDING, WHICH THE DISTRIBUTION IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.
CITY STAFF NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, CANADA AMERICA HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR OVER A YEAR WITHOUT ANY COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
THIS IS A CLOSEUP VIEW OF THE FLOOR PLAN.
I SIMPLY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, THE DRIVER DELIVERY AREA ON-DECK DELIVERY WILL OFFER HOME DELIVERY OF CANNABIS PRODUCTS DISTRIBUTED BY THEIR OWN CANADA AMERICA, OR COULD ALSO BE PURCHASED FROM ANOTHER LICENSED DISTRIBUTOR.
THEY PROPOSE TO HAVE UP TO 20 EMPLOYEES AND THEIR EMPLOYEES WOULD INCLUDE SECURITY GUARDS, INVENTORY CONTROL PERSONS, ALL OPERATING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS FLOOR PLAN.
NO CUSTOMERS ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE VISITING THE SITE.
THE, THE, UM, CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS WELL OVER 950 FEET AWAY.
AND THAT IS THE RESIDENCES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
THE FLOOR PLAN IS CONFINED TO APPROXIMATELY 2032 SQUARE FEET.
UM, I THINK YOU'LL START SEEING ON EACH FLOOR PLAN, THE STORAGE AREAS AS WELL AS SECURED OFFICE AREAS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS GONE THROUGH GREAT LANES TO INCLUDE IN THEIR PROPOSAL, VERY STRINGENT
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PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES FOR OPERATING THEIR BUSINESS.SO WHEN DELIVERIES COME TO AND FROM THE SITE, THEY WILL BE AN UNMARKED VEHICLES.
TYPICALLY THOSE VEHICLES WILL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE JUST ANY OTHER CAR VISITING THE SAME LOCATION.
THE I'M SORRY, B PROPOSED BUSINESS WILL HAVE, UM, AND ARMED GUARD ON SITE AT ALL TIMES.
THE APPLICANT IS TAKING PROACTIVE MEASURES TO THAT.
EACH OF THOSE ITEMS COULD BE ADDRESSED, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE POTENTIAL NUISANCES RELATED TO ODOR CONTROL NOISE, UM, VEHICLE OR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IMPACTS TO THE AREA.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO SEVEN FOR THE STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D.
WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND AN APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO TWO, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA HABRA AND ON-DECK DELIVERY, LLC.
THE SECOND APPLICATION TO YOU COMES FROM ESSENTIAL ROOTS.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING HOME DELIVERY.
THEY OFFER OVER 500 OVER 500 DIFFERENT CANNABIS GOODS, AND THEY'RE SITUATED IN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
ON THE WEST SIDE OF LESLEY, THE PROPOSED BUSINESS OPERATIONS ARE NOTED IN RED.
AND AGAIN, HERE'S A CLOSEUP VIEW OF THEIR FLOOR PLAN.
AS WITH MANY OF THESE HOME DELIVERY, THEY'D BE RECEIVING AN ORDER VIA THE INTERNET OR PHONE THERE'LL BE FULFILLING AND PACKAGING ORDERS BY TRAIN DISPATCHERS AND THEIR INVENTORY EMPLOYEES.
AND THEY EXPECT TO MAKE HOME DELIVERIES APPROXIMATELY 164 DELIVERIES A DAY WITH A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF UP TO 210 DELIVERIES.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN, THE AREA FOR THE DRIVING AND LOADING AREA.
NO CUSTOMERS ARE ANTICIPATED TO COME TO THE SITE.
THE ONLY ACTIVITY THAT WOULD OCCUR WOULD BE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE FLOOR PLAN IN WHICH THE DELIVERY TRUCK, TRUCK OR CAR WOULD DRIVE INTO THE FACILITY IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA.
THIS PARTICULAR SUITE IS 2,988 SQUARE FEET.
AND SIMILAR TO THE BUSINESS AT ON-DECK DELIVERY, LLC, THIS APPLICANT ALSO HAS A SECURE FLOOR PLAN LAYOUT, WHERE THEY HAVE LIMITED ACCESS AS NEEDED TO THEIR STORAGE AREA AND THEIR SECURITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AREA.
AGAIN, NO CUSTOMERS ARE COMING TO AND FROM, UM, THE ENTRANCE STORES TO VISIT THE PROPERTY.
HE WAS FORMERLY HOME TO AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR BUSINESS IN REVIEWING THE APPLICATION.
STAFF FEELS THAT THE PROPOSED NON STOREFRONT CANNABIS BUSINESS HAS CHARACTERISTICS SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES IN THE SAME AREA AS PART OF THE ESSENTIAL ROUTES LAHABRA LLC BUSINESS PLAN.
THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS IMPLEMENTING GOOD NEIGHBOR GUIDELINES, WHICH AGAIN IS A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING SITE CONCERNS INVOLVING NOISE,
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ODOR, LIGHT LOITERING, AND AGAIN, VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE COMMISSION APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO FIVE OR THE NON-STORE FRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 4 41 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E.AND WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, 22 DASH ZERO ONE, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAHABRA AND A CENTRAL ROUTES, LLC.
THIS THIRD APPLICATION COMES TO YOU FROM JP FOUR 20 LLC.
THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10:00 PM.
THE APPLICATION IS FILED UNDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH 11 AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO THREE, JP FOUR 20 LLC IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST MOUNTAIN AVENUE.
THEY ALSO CURRENTLY OPERATE AN EXISTING DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS, BUT THEN THE SAME BUILDING SUITE, WHICH CURRENTLY OCCUPIES SUITE A, THEY NOW WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND AND HAVE SUITE B OCCUPY OPERATIONAL AREA FOR HOME DELIVERY SERVICES.
JP FOUR 20 PROVIDE OFFERS THE HOME DELIVERY OF DRIED CANNABIS, FLOWER AND CONCENTRATES CANNABIS INFUSED EDIBLES, TOPICALS, AND CBD PRODUCTS, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES.
THEY TAKE ONLINE ORDERS, TELEPHONE ORDERS, AND PROVIDE THE HOME DELIVERY USING THE SIMILAR SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE THAT MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVE A NON STOREFRONT APPEARANCE, UM, IN THE CENTER, BUT IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT THIS ISN'T AN AREA THAT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS A SECURED LOADING AREA.
HERE IS SUITE B THE APPLICANT HAS A SECURE LEARNING AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THE APPLICANT BUSINESS PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT THEY'LL HAVE A GUARD SERVICE CONDUCTING ROVING PATROLS TO ENSURE ONSITE SECURITY.
THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING INSTALLATION OF ELECTRONIC SECURITY SYSTEM TO MONITOR REGULARLY MONITOR THE ENTIRE SITE AND FACILITY THE BUSINESS OPERATOR CAUSE HIRED STAFF TO MAKE SURE AGAIN THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ACTIVELY MITIGATE ANY NUISANCE ISSUES, INCLUDING NOISE, ODOR LIGHTING, LOITERING, AND VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AS NEEDED.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 22 DASH 11 OR THE STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B STAFF HAS ALSO RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, 22 DASH ZERO THREE, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA HABRA AND JP FOUR 20 LLC.
LASTLY, WE HAVE THE APPLICATION COMING TO YOU FROM SHINE LAHABRA LLC WITH THEIR DBA, UM, KNOWN AS BLASE BLASE PROPOSED TO OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK BETWEEN
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8:00 AM AND 10:00 PM.THE APPLICATION WAS FILED UNDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH 13 AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, 22 DASH ZERO FOUR.
ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE IN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPED AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAMBERT ROAD IN THE CENTER BUILDING WITHIN SUITE A AS NOTED HERE ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY ARE PROPOSING UP TO 45 EMPLOYEES TO OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS OPERATION BLAZE.
AGAIN, OFFERS HOME DELIVERY OF THEIR CANNABIS PRODUCTS.
THEY HAVE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, UM, ACTUALLY LOCATED IN, BASED IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES, BUT THEY WILL ALSO, UM, BE WORKING WITH LICENSED DISTRIBUTORS AS NEEDED.
AGAIN, CANNABIS PRODUCTS ARE ALL STORED IN A SECURED AREA.
UM, ON A ROUTINE BUSINESS DAY UP TO 10 EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON SITE OF THE 10 EMPLOYEES WORKING VARIOUS SHIFTS.
THERE'LL BE APPROXIMATELY FIVE DRIVERS.
THE DELIVERY VEHICLES AGAIN, WILL BE UNMARKED VEHICLES.
AND ONCE AGAIN, NO CUSTOMERS WILL BE COMING TO AND FROM THE SITE, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL AND TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS OVER A THOUSAND FEET AWAY.
UM, AS PART OF THE BLAZE BUSINESS PLAN.
AGAIN, THE OPERATOR HAS INCLUDED PROACTIVE MEASURES TO REALLY REDUCE OR ELIMINATE NUISANCES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO NOISE ODOR LIGHTING, LOITERING VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IMPACTS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE COMMISSION APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH 13 FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1721 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A, WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVE A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, 22 DASH ZERO FOUR, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA HABRA AND TRINE LAHABRA LLC FOR THEIR NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS.
EACH OF THESE BUSINESSES, THIS IS JUST SIMPLY A RECAP DISTRIBUTE FROM ONLY LICENSED MANUFACTURERS AND CULTIVATORS.
THEY HAVE WAREHOUSING OF THE CANNABIS ONSITE AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO FULFILL HOME DELIVERIES FOR BOTH ADULT USE AND MEDICINAL CANNABIS PRODUCTS.
AS STAFF WOULD REVIEW FOR ALL DISCRETIONARY APPLICATIONS.
WE CHECK FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN STAFF BELIEVES THE PROPOSED BUSINESSES WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL PLAN POLICIES, 11.1, WHICH HAS DRESSES, DIVERSITY OF USES AND, UM, POLICY 1.1, WHICH ADDRESSES CONSUMER DEMAND.
AGAIN, THE ZONING IN WHICH EACH OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE PROPOSED ALLOWS FOR THE PROPOSED NON STOREFRONT COMMERCIAL CANNABIS WITH THE APPROVAL OF A CUP AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN CLOSING STAFF DOES BELIEVE THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
THE BUSINESS OPERATOR MUST OBTAIN A TYPE NINE NON STOREFRONT RETAILER, UM, LICENSE, AND FINALLY REQUIREMENTS FROM BOTH THE CITY AND STATE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED UNDER BOTH THE CUP AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THE BUSINESS WILL OPERATE IN AN ACCEPTABLE MANNER.
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BEFORE I CLOSE MY PRESENTATION, I JUST LIKE TO KNOW IN YOUR PACKET, A DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS INCLUDED FOR EACH APPLICATION AND SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THERE IS JUST ONE TYPE OF GRAPHICAL ERROR UPDATE THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED UNDER SECTION 14 OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO REFLECT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER WILL CONTRIBUTE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND THE AMOUNT SPECIFIED REFERENCING SECTION 14.1 AND NOT 17.1.IT STAFFS INTENT TO REVISE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHEN IT'S BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR FINAL REVIEW, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
I AM HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR EACH OF THE APPLICATIONS AS WELL.
AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, SONIA, AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK THE PLENTY COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND TO KEEP OUR QUESTIONS CLEAR.
HOW ABOUT WE START, UM, EITHER IN GENERAL OR SPECIFICALLY TO ITEM ONE AND ITEM ONE IS 1000, LESLIE ALSO KNOW THE BUSINESS CALLED ON-DECK LLC.
UM, SO COME IN COMMISSIONER
THE SAME QUESTION IS I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING THESE ARE HOME DELIVERIES ONLY.
SO IS THERE A WAY THAT IF SOMEONE CALLED AND THEY WANTED IT SENT TO THEIR BUSINESS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME THEY DRIVE UP OR THE TIME THAT THEY TAKE THE ORDER? THESE QUESTIONS ARE A BIT STEPH.
SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE LINE? SURE.
SO HOME DELIVERIES, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE, UM, THE STOREFRONT WAS JUST GOING TO TAKE THE ORDER AND WHEN THEY DELIVER IT, WILL THEY FIND OUT AT THE TIME THAT IT MAY BE IT'S A BUSINESS THAT THE ORDER CAME THROUGH FOR THE PICKUP? OR MAYBE YOU UNDERSTAND, LIKE I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION AND THE CODE IS WRITTEN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED TO A PHYSICAL ADDRESS.
SO A DELIVERY TO AN INDIVIDUAL ON A SIDEWALK, UM, WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED, BUT THE CODE, THE CITY'S CODE REQUIRES THAT IT BE DELIVERED TO A PHYSICAL ADDRESS.
SO A BUSINESS WOULD WORK WELL, BUSINESS WOULD WORK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ITEM ONE? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER BREW NEAR, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.
HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED UP WHAT WE'RE, UM, LIMITS ARE? I KNOW WE HAVE LIMITS FOR DISTRIBUTION AND, UM, OF DELIVERY.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR US? I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING A HARD, HARD TIME.
DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS OF, UH, DELIVERY DISTRIBUTIONS? WE HAVE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY FOR DISTRIBUTION AND FOR DELIVERY AND WHAT'S THE CAPS ON BOTH OF THEM.
SO THERE'S A MAXIMUM LIMIT SET FOR THE NUMBER OF DISTRIBUTIONS IN THE CITY.
AND THAT'S CAP IS FOUR AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF FOUR DISTRIBUTION FOR TESTING FACILITIES AND FOR NON-STORE FRONT RETAILERS.
AND WHAT DO WE HAVE? AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE DISTRIBUTION.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE A MAP IN TIME SHOWING THE LOCATIONS.
NO, I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE RECORD.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NAMES OF THE BUSINESSES WITH NEAR AT THIS TIME, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE UP TO A MAXIMUM FOR EACH TONIGHT'S APPLICATION INCLUDES TWO DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES.
WE HAVE NOT EXCEEDED, UM, THE, THE CAP WITH THE REQUEST.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WILL THIS GO OVER OUR CAPS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED? NO, THIS, THIS WILL NOT EXCEED THE CAP.
THAT'S IT FOR RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER MANLEY.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, UM, I'M JUST CALLING IT NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE IT'S THE, YOU WENT IN AN ORDER AND WE'LL KEEP IT IN THAT ORDER JUST CAUSE IT MAKES IT SIMPLER.
UM, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ALSO OPERATING AS CANADA AMERICA CURRENTLY.
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CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.IS, IS THAT THE ONLY ONE OF THE FOUR THAT'S CURRENTLY OPERATING IN SOME CAPACITY IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW? SO JP FOUR 20 ALSO HAS AN EXISTING DISTRICT, UH, DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS, EXISTING DISTRIBUTION, CORRECT? IN, IN THE CITY, CORRECT.
FOR CANADA AMERICA, SINCE WE'RE JUST ON THAT ONE, I GUESS FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? THAT I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS THERE'S BEEN NO ISSUES.
UM, I GUESS I COULD ASK THAT A DIFFERENT WAY.
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CALLS, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR CANADA AMERICA SINCE THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING IN THE CITY? I ONLY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN GOOD STANDING.
I CANNOT REFLECT RIGHT NOW IF THEY THERE'VE BEEN ANY CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND THEN IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT MENTIONS, UM, PART OF THEIR STAFF INCLUDES ARMED GUARDS, BUT IT, I DIDN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, DETAIL ON WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
IS THAT ARMED GUARDS THAT ARE THERE 24 7, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN OPERATION AFTER 10:00 PM.
UM, IS THAT ARMED GUARDS THERE SOMETIMES THAT ARE JUST PART OF THEIR ROLLING STAFF.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO MANAGE ON THEIR OWN OR DO WE KNOW THOSE DETAILS? GO AHEAD.
I WAS GOING TO COMMISSIONER MANLY.
UM, THEY WILL BE SPENDING A SAFETY PLAN PRIOR TO THE BUILDING PERMITS THAT WILL GO UNDER REVIEW WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY UNDER THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC ELEMENT.
AND WE'LL REVIEW THOSE SPECIFICALLY AT THIS TIME.
IT'S, AS IT'S DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT, NO FURTHER DETAILS, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE OPERATOR WHEN THEY COME UP DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DETAILS.
AND THEN I THINK ONE LAST THING HERE, I RECALL PAST LIKE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT OPERATING DISTRIBUTION FROM WITHIN THE CITY, BUT NOT TO DELIVER WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, DOES THAT RING A BELL TO YOU AT ALL OPERATE? THANK YOU.
SO RECENTLY, NOT TOO RECENTLY, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE LAW WAS SUCH THAT CITIES COULD PROHIBIT DELIVERIES INTO THEIR CORRECT JURISDICTIONS.
UM, THE LAW WAS RECENTLY CHANGED TO REQUIRE OR TO PROHIBIT A CITY FROM BANNING DELIVERIES INTO THEIR JURISDICTION.
SO THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE CITY COULD HAVE ALLOWED THESE NON STOREFRONT RETAILERS TO EXIST, BUT NOT DELIVER TO ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND JUST, UM, GENERATE ALL THE REVENUE FROM SALES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
BUT THAT LAW IS NO LONGER CURRENT.
SO OPERATE HERE, DELIVER ELSEWHERE.
THERE WAS A TIME WE COULD DO THAT AND NO LONGER.
WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN WHAT SHE REFERENCED AT THE BEGINNING OF HER REPORT.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION SPECIFICALLY TO ON-DECK UH, SO IT'S THE SAME OPERATOR, BUT TWO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
WITHIN, WITHIN THE SAME LOCATION WITHIN THE SAME LOCATION OR ARE THEY RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER? ARE THEY SHARING SPACE? I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I GOT A LITTLE LOST THERE.
THEY'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND IS THAT THE SAME FOR THE OTHER ONE ON MOUNTAIN VIEW TOO? THERE TWO SAME BUSINESSES, BUT DIFFERENT NAMES.
IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? CORRECT? ONE IS SUITE A AND THE OTHER SUITE B, JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I THOUGHT JP FOUR 20 IS AN EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING, SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME BUSINESS.
SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS, UM, ONE STOREFRONT, ONE DISTRIBUTION, SAME OPERATOR, BUT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
UM, SO HOW ABOUT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO I TO NO COMMISSION NUMBER NEAR? NO.
I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR MY QUESTIONS FOR AFTERWARDS.
HOW ABOUT ITEM THREE? ANY COMMISSIONER? NO, WE WANT TO WAIT.
SO, UH, SONYA, YOU REFERENCED, UM, A MOBILE HOME PARK.
WHICH ONE WAS IT? WAS THAT LAKE PARK? LAHABRA ON PALM? YES.
SO I KNOW THAT SONORA HIGH SCHOOL IS JUST ACROSS
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THE STREET FROM LAKE PARK, SO, AND OUTSIDE OF THE REQUIRED DISTANCE OR THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT.I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD THE, THE RIGHT MOBILE HOME PARK IN MIND LOCATION WISE.
AND I'M SORRY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISTRIBUTION THAT IS THAT CLOSE TO A SCHOOL IN THE CITY? HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED THAT UP? UM, DISTRIBUTION OR NON STOREFRONT RETAIL? ALL, UH, ALL OF THE DISTRIBUTION BISHOPS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE CITY MEET THE CITY'S, UM, DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL OF THE NON STOREFRONT RETAIL THAT'S PROPOSED THIS EVENING, MEET THE CITY'S DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
HELLO, MY NAME IS DANA CISNEROS.
AND JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE THREE MINUTES, I HAVE TO SPEAK TO YOU.
UM, I'M ALSO THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF ON DECK.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I NEED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, SO I JUST, PLEASE, IF I MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
UM, BUT ALSO DOES THAT EAT INTO MY TIME THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE RESPONSIVE COMMENTS, CORRECT.
TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME FROM THE COMMISSION? GO AHEAD.
SO, UM, I JUST, UM, WANTED TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA FOR BEING OPEN-MINDED ENOUGH TO PASS A MEASURE W BY 67 AND A HALF PERCENT, UM, THAT MEANS THAT YOUR CITY REALLY WANTS TO SEE THESE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES HERE.
AND PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY ALSO TAXED.
AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE WAS A SALES TAX, UM, DISCUSSION AT THE SAME TIME AS THE CANNABIS TAX CAME ABOUT.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UM, I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYOR MEDRANO AND HIS POSITION ON CANNABIS, UM, IT HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR TO US FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, AND, UM, HE ACTUALLY HAS ALREADY RECOGNIZED ON DECK, UM, FOR ITS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, HE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO CANNABIS GENERALLY, UM, BUT GREATLY RESPECTS THE WORK THAT CA UH, CAN AMERICA HAS DONE AND IS EAGER TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH ON-DECK.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE, UH, A PLAQUE FROM HIM ACTUALLY, UM, THAT HANGS IN, UM, IN, ON DECK.
UM, I WANTED TO CLARIFY, I AM, I HEARD ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, STATE THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COMING TO THESE BUSINESSES.
AND I BELIEVE THE COMMENT WAS THAT'S VAGUE.
UM, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ANYWHERE THAT CANNABIS IS STORED OR CAN BE FOUND IN A LICENSED PREMISES, UM, MUST BE AN AREA OF QUOTE, LIMITED ACCESS, WHICH MEANS THAT EVERY PERSON HAS TO SIGN IN AND MUST BE EITHER AN INVITEE OR A VENDOR OR SOMEONE THAT WORKS THERE.
I, MYSELF, WHEN I VISIT CANADA AMERICA, IT TAKES A PICTURE OF ME ON THE IPAD WHEN I PUT IN MY INFORMATION AND IT TAKES A PICTURE.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOG OF EVERY HUMAN BEING THAT COMES INTO THEIR FACILITY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS ACCESS TO THEIR SECURITY CAMERAS AND IS WELCOME TO VISIT.
AT ANY TIME, WE HAVE A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY CALLS FOR SERVICE AND GOD WILLING AS THE ATTORNEY OF THE BUSINESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD ME IF THERE WERE ANY.
UM, SO, UM, AND KNOWING THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT MR DE SIMONE IS, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT MORNING OR NIGHT HE WOULD HAVE CALLED ME IF, UM, SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED, UM, AS HE OFTEN DOES.
I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT COUNT AMERICA, THE SISTER COMPANY, EACH OF THESE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OWNED BY TONY DE SIMONE.
HE WAS A, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY HE WAS BORN HERE, BUT HE WAS CERTAINLY RAISED HERE.
UM, HE'S A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU HAVE OCCASION TO LOOK AT HIS APPLICATION, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FLIP TO THE BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT HE'S DONE.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HE INTEGRATE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO HE AND HIS FAMILY AND HIS EMPLOYEES GO OUT FREQUENTLY.
UM, THEY JUST SUPPORTED YOUR CITRUS FARE DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WERE OUT THERE SERVING WATER, HELPING SET UP IN THE HEAT.
UM, HE ALSO CONTRIBUTES SUBSTANTIAL HOURS TO MEALS ON WHEELS, DELIVERING FOOD TO THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA.
UM, AND BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IT'S GREATLY IMPORTANT THAT CANNABIS NOT JUST BE A FINANCIAL RESOURCE FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO A VOLUNTEER RESOURCE FOR THE CITY.
WE WANT TO TRULY INTEGRATE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE DON'T REALLY SHY AWAY FROM, FROM ANY OF THE TOUGH QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THE RULE WITH RESPECT TO THE DELIVERY QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED THE CASE WAS THE COUNTY OF SANTA CRUZ VERSUS DEPARTMENT OF, UH, EXCUSE ME, BUREAU OF CANNABIS CONTROL AT THE TIME.
IT WAS APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, EXCEPT IT WAS THE REVERSE.
UM, THERE WAS PREVIOUS LAW ON THE BOOKS AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT SAID THAT CITIES COULD BAN,
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UH, CITIES COULD NOT BAN DELIVERIES INTO THEIR CITY, MEANING THAT IF SOMEONE HAD A DELIVERY LICENSE IN FULLERTON, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DELIVER TO THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA.AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT LAHABRA COULD DO ABOUT IT IN THAT CASE, THE COURT DETERMINED, UM, AFTER THE BUREAU OF CANNABIS CONTROL, SORT OF PULLED BACK FROM ITS POSITION IN THAT CASE, THE COURT DETERMINED THAT CITIES ACTUALLY COULD BAND DELIVERIES INTO THEIR CITY.
I BELIEVE THAT THROUGH MEASURE W UH, THAT WOULD, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT LAW IS LOOKING AT DOING SINCE YOUR RESIDENTS WANT THOSE BUSINESSES LOCATED HERE.
THE ONLY THING YOU COULD DO A STEP FURTHER, POTENTIALLY I, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE BALLOT MEASURE IN A LONG TIME, UM, AS POTENTIALLY RESTRICT DELIVERIES INTO THE CITY FROM OUTSIDE OPERATORS.
UM, UM, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY NEAR ANYONE AS INDICATED WE'VE HAD NO INCIDENTS WHATSOEVER.
WE SHARE THE PROPERTY WITH HOSKINS.
UM, IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, IT'S AN EQUIPMENT RENTAL COMPANY, OR LIKE A, LIKE A CAT TRUCK RENTAL COMPANY.
UM, WE'RE VERY CLOSE WITH MAX HOSKINS AND HIS BROTHER WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY AND OPERATE THAT BUSINESS THERE.
UM, SO THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE AS TO OVERCOME ODOR CONTROL.
AND CAN AMERICA DOES STORE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PRODUCT, UM, ON, ON PREMISES, THE REQUIREMENT ABOUT THE ARMED GUARDS IS SOMETHING BY STATUTE.
UM, I KNOW THAT TONY WOULD RATHER NOT PAY FOR AN ARMED GUARD TO BE THERE 24 7.
IT IS QUITE EXPENSIVE, UM, BUT IT IS REQUIRED BY LAW HARBOR LAW.
UM, AND SO WILL
SO THESE ARE NOT, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MS. UH, MS. LOUIS MEANT BY ROAMING GUARDS, PERHAPS ROAMING THE PROPERTY.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE SECURITY SERVICES THAT ONLY ROUTINELY COME THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
SOMEONE ACTS ACTUALLY HAS TO BE PHYSICALLY STATIONED ON SITE, AND THAT IS OUR OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE.
UM, IF THE LAW CHANGES, WE WILL LIKELY, YOU KNOW, CONFORM TO THAT AND SCALE BACK A BIT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF A PERSONAL TASTE AS TO WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ARMED GUARDS ON SITE.
UM, BUT THE LAW IS WHAT IT IS.
AND SO WE COMPLY WITH IT AND WE WILL COMPLY WITH IT WITH RESPECT TO ON DECK AS WELL.
WE'VE, UM, ALREADY EXECUTED A LABOR PEACEKEEPING AGREEMENT WITH THE UFC W WHICH IS THE COUNTRY'S LARGEST, UM, UNION, UM, THAT REPRESENTS HOSPITALITY, WORKERS AND CLERKS, UM, LIKE GROCERY CLERKS.
UM, THEY'VE MADE A BIG MOVE INTO THE CANNABIS SPACE.
SO WE'VE ALREADY EXECUTED A LABOR PEACEKEEPING AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
UM, CANADA AMERICA USES DAMA FINANCIAL, WHICH IS A FINANCIAL SERVICES COMPANY THAT PARTNERS WITH FDA SHIRT AT THE IC INSURED BANKS.
UM, SO THE MONEY IS BANKED REDUCING THE RISK OF CASH ROBBERIES, UM, BOTH, UM, ON DELIVERY AND ONSITE.
UM, THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR PAYMENTS TO BE MADE ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH DAMA THAT ARE COMPLIANT WITH FENCING.
UM, NOTHING WE DO IS LIKE A CASHLESS ATM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANY WORK AROUNDS.
WE GO DIRECTLY TO THE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY WHO KNOW THE RULES.
UM, I THINK A FORMER MEMBER OF THE FED IS ACTUALLY THEIR PRESIDENT.
SO WE THINK WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH THAT SORT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES COMPANY.
UM, WE ARE ONE OF THE SOUNDS LIKE THREE DISTRIBUTIONS, UM, THAT ARE LOCATED IN THIS CITY.
UM, THE THIRD ONE IS CONTINUUM AND THEY ARE NOT APPLYING FOR A DELIVERY PERMIT.
IT DON'T THINK, UM, OR I WOULD'VE SEEN IT.
UM, AND THE REASON FOR HAVING SEPARATE BUSINESSES OR SEPARATE NAMES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SAME OPERATOR COMES DOWN TO TAXES AND EXIT STRATEGY.
UM, IT MAY COME A TIME THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO ACQUIRE SOMETHING AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, AND SO THESE BUSINESSES TEND TO KEEP THEIR ASSETS SEPARATELY HELD.
UM, BUT TONY DE SIMONE IS THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OWNER OF BOTH.
UM, SO THERE'S NOBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PARTICIPATING OR GETTING, YOU KNOW, BACKDOOR PAYMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT HIM.
UM, OUR HEARING WAS MOVED UP A BIT AND HE TOOK HIS GIRLFRIEND TO GREECE, UM, FOR HER BIRTHDAY.
SO HE'S NOT HERE, BUT I'M HERE INSTEAD.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND TO ASSIST WITH RESPONDING TO ANY OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA EVER SINCE MR. DE SIMONE FIRST APPLIED IN 2018.
SO WE HAVE NEW FACES HERE, NO MORE CHRIS AND CARLOS, BUT, UM, WE, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER? I DID HAVE A QUESTION, SORRY.
SO HOURS OF OPERATIONS, 8:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHILE THE, UH, CANNABIS IS ON SITE, WHICH IS 24 7 CORRECTLY.
SO THE GUARD IS THERE 24 7, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT OKAY.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS WERE AT THE CITRUS FAIR.
WAS THAT PART OF YOUR AGREEMENT, YOUR HOURS THAT YOU HAD TO PUT IN FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU HAVE TO DO HOURS EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? WE SAID, YEAH, WE SET IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH, UM, I ACTUALLY AUTHORED.
UM, AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT REVISED, MAYBE A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS, BUT, UM, WE DID HAVE,
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UM, VOLUNTEER HOURS CONTRIBUTED, BUT THAT WAS ALSO A VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT ON OUR END.I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL OF THE BUSINESSES DID THAT.
UM, THIS GROUP FEELS THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
TONY COMES FROM A FAMILY WHERE MOM WAS HOME DURING THE SUMMER, UM, AS A TEACHER, UM, HE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO FOLKS THAT MAY HAVE SEASONAL EMPLOYMENT AND WILL HOMBRE, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM AND GIVEN THAT HE WAS RAISED HERE, UM, HE, HE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE, HE INTEGRATES.
SO IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY THE CITRUS FARE.
IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS LIKE TWO HOURS.
THERE WAS SOME SORT OF FORMULA THAT WE USED ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES AND HOW MANY HOURS WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED, BUT THAT WAS OUR AGREEMENT.
SO YOU HAD LIKE 27 OR 28 HOURS PER YEAR.
SO SINCE HE WAS SO EXCITED, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT INTO THE AGREEMENT AGAIN, THAT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS, IS IT, AM I MISTAKEN? CAUSE I DID NOT SEE IT.
IT MAY NOT BE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED THE WAY THAT IT'S HANDLING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD, SO, SO FAR WE'VE CONTRIBUTED APPROXIMATELY $65,000 TO THE CITY.
AND THAT WAS IN LINE WITH THE SCHEDULE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PRIOR TO THE TAX PASSING.
UM, NOW THE CITY HAS REQUESTED A 0.5% PAYMENT FOR THE CITY TO USE AND DISTRIBUTE AS IT NEEDS TO.
IN ADDITION TO THE 3.75, OR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DISAGREEMENT IN ADDITION TO THE TAX, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS AN ADDITION TO TAX, CORRECT THE 3.75 PLUS THE 0.5.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WITH THESE NON STOREFRONT RETAIL BUSINESSES WAS TRY WITH, UM, MAKE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS GOING TO BE STANDARD FOR ALL FOUR BUSINESSES.
SO IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SEPARATELY NEGOTIATED.
SO WE WANTED TO HAVE CONSISTENCY AMONGST, AMONGST THE FOUR BUSINESSES AND WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
AND I DON'T GET THE SENSE THAT TONY AND HIS FAMILY ARE GOING TO STOP DOING MEALS ON WHEELS OR GOING AND PARTICIPATING AT THE CITRUS THERE.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S, THAT'S INTERESTING.
I DID MEALS ON WHEELS THROUGH THE, UM, PANDEMIC.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I'VE MET HIM.
SO THAT'D BE INTERESTING IF I COULD MEET HIM CAUSE WE WERE IN ABSOLUTELY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT, UH, CLARIFIED THEIR, THEIR, UH, DISTRIBUTION, THEIR PERCENTAGE, THEIR MO THEIR, UM, HOURS PER MONTH AND, UM, $30,000 A YEAR.
IS IT STILL, OR IS THAT TAKEN OUT ALSO? I'M SORRY, YOU ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THEIR EXISTING, IF THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND SO THEIR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL CONTINUE ON, THIS IS A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE ONLY GETTING THE ONE SWEET DAY WE'LL BE DOING.
I THINK I HAVE THE SUITE LETTERS WRONG, BUT ONCE WE, WHICH IS THE DISTRIBUTION WILL BE DOING WHAT WAS ALLOWED UNDER THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THIS NEW SUITE, THE NEW NON STOREFRONT RETAIL BUSINESS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
OKAY, SIR, IF IT'S HELPFUL, THERE WAS A SLIGHT REVISION TO THE DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENT WHEN THE TAX WAS PASSED, BUT IT DID NOT REPLACE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, PROVISIONS.
IT REPLACED THE CONTRACTUAL PAYMENTS PROVISIONS, WHICH WERE SCALED, WHICH IS THE 65,000 THAT I WAS REFERRING TO.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE, HAS 1.2, 5% DISTRIBUTION TAX.
SO THAT'S BEEN REPLACED WITH A TAX, UM, BUT OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONTEMPLATED THAT AT THE TIME WE EXECUTED IT.
AND THEN YOU ALSO BROUGHT UP, UM, MEDRANO.
YOU GUYS KNOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER PERSONALLY? UH, WELL, NO, JUST FROM HERE, HE'S NOT A CANNABIS FAN AT ALL.
I JUST MEAN TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN PRETTY VOCAL ABOUT HIS OPPOSITION TO CANNABIS BUSINESSES GENERALLY, UM, GIVEN HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HE HAD SOME SORT OF NARCOTIC BACKGROUND AT SOME POINT.
UM, AND HE'S, YOU KNOW, A FAN OF MARINOL AND OTHER SYNTHETIC FORMS OF CANNABIS.
SO HE'S BEEN A PRETTY STAUNCH OPPONENT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, A BELIEVE THAT AFTER THE MEASURE W PASSED, UM, THAT HE'S HAD, I WOULDN'T SAY A CHANGE OF HEART, BUT RESPECTS THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS KIND ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, AFTER OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR, FOR OUR CANADA AMERICA, HE CAME UP AND SHOOK BOTH TONY AND MY HAND, EVEN THOUGH HE VOTED AGAINST, IT SAID, I HOPE MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS.
YOU KNOW, I JUST HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND DOESN'T JIVE WITH ME.
SO WE, THERE IS NO PERSONAL CONNECTION WHATSOEVER.
UM, BUT HE HAS, UM, GIVEN ON DECK, UH, YOU KNOW, A CERTIFICATE OF SOME SORT, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THEM FOR, FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY'VE MADE.
UM, THEY MADE CONTRIBUTIONS, RAMPING UP FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS WITH CAN AMERICA.
AND THOSE ARE ALL DOCUMENTED, UM, IN THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, UM, UPON WHICH WE SCORED A 99.6%.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANLEY.
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ANYBODY ELSE IN FAVOR WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT 4 21 EAST PARKWOOD DIRECTLY SOUTH OF TWO OF THE PROPOSED CANNABIS LOCATIONS.
THANK YOU BEFORE SIR, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE IS ONE OF THE TWO, THIS ONE, THE ONE ON A 1000 LESLIE.
THE ONLY ONE I WAS AWARE OF WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR, IT WAS ONE AT FOUR AT 4 41.
NOW I FIND OUT THERE'S THREE MORE ON THE DOCKET HERE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION ABOUT NON REALTY, NON RETAIL STOREFRONT.
I WAS NOT AWARE OF WHAT THAT INVOLVED BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH EASTERN SOUTH LA AND SEE THE CLIENTELE THAT HANG AROUND POT STORES.
THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT I SAW WAS FOR 4 41 IMPERIAL DIRECTLY NORTH OF ME.
YOU LITERALLY COULD THROW A ROCK OUT THEIR BACK WINDOW AND HIT MY BACKYARD.
I HOPE I DON'T SEE BULLETS COMING FROM OVER THERE.
NOW I SEE A SECOND PROPOSAL WITH A THOUSAND SOUTH LESLIE, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, BETWEEN THE FULLERTON BUS LOT AND THE KAISER FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RANDOM OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE, MY OBSERVATION SINCE MOVING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN, UH, 2000 MEMORIAL DAY.
SO I'VE BEEN THERE 22 YEARS IN A FEW WEEKS.
NUMBER ONE, WHEN I MOVED IN, THERE WAS A DILAPIDATED BUILDING MATERIAL WAREHOUSE ON THE CORNER.
NOW OCCUPIED BY THE KAISER LOCATION.
NEXT DOOR WAS A STRIP CLUB, WHICH COMMUNITY EFFORTS GOT CLOSED DOWN AND REMOVED.
IT'S BEEN A VACANT LOT FOR YEARS, AND IT'S FINALLY GOT SOME NEW BUSINESSES BEING BUILT.
THEY WERE NOTED ON THE, UH, PLANS TODAY.
OBVIOUSLY THE CITY IS TRYING TO UPGRADE AS THEY RECENTLY, OKAY.
THE KARAOKE CLUB REMODELING AND IMPERIAL AND BEACH.
MY NEXT POINT IS THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT RISE IN HOMELESSNESS, ALONG IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, ESPECIALLY AT HARBOR AND ALONG THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL AND THE RAILROAD SPUR DIRECTLY IN THE VICINITY OF THESE PROPOSALS.
THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASED DISREGARD FOR THE LAW.
WE HAVE IMPACTED APARTMENTS ON MONTWOOD AND BURWOOD AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD EASILY SURPASSING ANY MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, UH, CODES FOR THE CITY, WITH THE ATTENDANT VIOLATIONS, STOLEN, SHOPPING CARTS, ILLEGAL FIREWORKS, RAMPID PARKING VIOLATIONS, CARS HAVE TAKEN OVER AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I'VE HAD TWO CARS LOADED PERSONALLY.
THERE'S MINIMAL POLICE PATROL.
USUALLY ONLY AS A RESULT OF A RESIDENT PHONE CALL.
IF A TRANSACTION GOES BAD ACROSS THE STREET, I DON'T WANT TO SEE BULLETS COMING TO MY BACKYARD.
AS I SAID, YOU COULD THROW A ROCK OVER THERE.
AND AGAIN, THE CITY TOOK STEPS FORWARD BY REPLACING EYESORES AND SHADY BUSINESSES WITH A MEDICAL CENTER, THE ALDI GROCERY STORE, TWO PHARMACIES, UH, NOW PLANS TO TAKE A STEP BACKWARD BY ADDING TWO CANNABIS LOCATIONS.
OH, I GOT TO AMEND THAT FOR CANNABIS LOCATIONS.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ALREADY GOT ONE.
AND YOU SAID THERE'S A LIMIT OF FOUR.
SO I HAVE, I HAVE A, A PROPOSAL FOR THE BOARD AND THAT IS IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CANNABIS ROW, PUT IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF PLASTIC TOPS, INC.
UH, MY BUSINESS IS A TWO MINUTE WALK FROM SITE NUMBER ONE AND A FIVE MINUTE WALK FROM SITE.
NUMBER TWO, WE'VE MADE THE ADDRESS OF YOUR BUSINESS 5 21 IN FIVE 11 EAST JAMIE AVENUE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1979,
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SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS CHANGE OVER THE YEARS.UM, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE'S A KAISER MEDICAL CENTER, UM, WITH A LARGE PARKING LOT ON THE CORNER AND CONGESTED, UM, AUTO CENTER WHERE ONE OF THE IS BEING PROPOSED AND THE FULLERTON JOINT UNION HIGH SCHOOL BUS STEEPLE WITH SCHOOL BUSES MOVING IN AND OUT ON LESLIE, UM, ALL DAY LONG.
AND AT THE END OF THE STREET IS A RALPH'S DISTRIBUTION CENTER THAT HAS LARGE VEHICLES GOING UP AND DOWN LESLIE ALL DAY LONG, TOO.
SO CONGESTION IS A BIG PROBLEM.
SO WHEN I HEARD SITE NUMBER ONE, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE 20 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
I'M THINKING TO MYSELF AS THEY'RE 20 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS, CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY EXTREMELY CONGESTED.
THAT'S ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE AND THAT JAMIE STREET THAT I'M ON RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER IS A DEAD END STREET.
SO FOR NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES, THAT WOULD BE REAL EASY FOR THEM TO GO OUT A SITE AND DO SOMETHING DOWN THE STREET, RIGHT IN OUR AREA.
AND WE'RE A MANUFACTURER, A WOOD MANUFACTURING BUSINESS.
AND IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO AWRY WITH FIRE, IT WOULD BE A SERIOUS, SERIOUS PROBLEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I'M VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I, UH, HAVE THE BODY SHOP RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE THOUSAND, UH, LESLIE STREET.
I WOULD JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS TODAY THAT IT WAS A DISTRIBUTION RETAIL STORE.
WHAT I OPPOSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TRAFFIC IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG, ALL HOURS A DAY.
I'VE SEEN LINES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THE POT STORES AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY AGAINST IT.
UM, THE RETAIL PORTION OF IT, W W I NEED TO KNOW THE DEFINED WORD RETAIL ARE THERE EVENTUALLY, IS THERE A LOOPHOLE TO WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO SIT THERE AND GET IN THERE AND GO, OH, WELL, NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP A STORE AND NOW IT'LL BE EASY FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN ONE.
AND THEN TWO IS HOW MANY TRUCKLOADS OF A CANNABIS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ARE WE TALKING POUNDS TONS? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? AS FAR AS THAT, UM, I LIKE SEEING THAT THEY DO HAVE THE ARMED GUARDS.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, HAVING A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYBODY, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO IS FINE BY ME.
BUT AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING IN AND OUT, ARE WE TALKING, SEMI-TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, DROPPING OFF TONS HERE AND THERE.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CRIMINALS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL FOLLOW THEM IN.
THEY'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, PLAY THEM.
AND THEN COME IN AFTER HOURS, HOW MANY GUARDS, THEY GOT ONE, THEY PULL UP 10 GUYS WHO HAD SOME ARS, YOU KNOW, AND GO COLLECT THE, THEY DO HAVE THAT DRAINAGE DITCH DOWN ON THE BOTTOM.
WE'VE HAD, UM, HOMELESS PEOPLE ACTUALLY, I'VE GOTTEN THERE FIVE 30 IN THE MORNING TO GO OPEN UP THE SHOP DOOR AND I HAVE ONE SLEEPING ON THE FRONT PORCH.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT? SO ANY DIFFERENCE OVER THERE, AS FAR AS HAVING THEM CAMPING OUT OR PEOPLE COMING IN UP, I MEAN, I'M THINKING IF THERE WASN'T A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC, IT'D BE ONE THING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
AND APPARENTLY THEY'VE HAD IT IN THERE FOR AWHILE.
AND I DO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE TRUCKLOADS, TONS OF STUFF, GETTING TRANSPORTED, AND EVENTUALLY SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I THINK IT'S NOT A MATTER IF, BUT WHEN, UM, AS FAR AS SAFETY, UH, KNOCK ON WOOD, I'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING HAPPEN AT OUR SHOP, BUT KNOWING THAT THE SIZE OF THAT YARD AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED, THE HOMELESS LUNG, THE BACK, I MEAN, IT TAKES NOTHING FOR THEM TO GO WALK AND RIDE THROUGH IT.
UM, SO RETAIL, THERE WILL NEVER BE A RETAIL PERSON BEING ABLE TO GO UP THERE.
SO WE'RE JUST TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO COME IN THERE AND GO I, OR ONLINE, WHAT, WHATEVER, HOWEVER, THEY ORDER IT ORDERED AND TAKE.
I WANT TO WHATEVER, A POUNDER, WHATEVER THEY'RE BUYING.
UM, AND SO A PLANE WRAP CAR GOES AND DROPS THAT OFF.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING? 20, 30, 50, 80 TIMES A DAY.
UM, STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER HIS QUESTION? SO, UM, TO ANSWER SOME OF HIS PREVIOUS QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO JUST REEMPHASIZE THE PROPOSED NON-STORE FRONT BUSINESS
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IS NOT GOING TO ADD TO THE DISTRIBUTION.THE DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS CURRENTLY OPERATES ON ITS OWN.
UM, THIS ANTICIPATES UP TO 20 EMPLOYEES, BUT ON A ROUTINE DAY, IT WILL BE 12 EMPLOYEES WORKING VARYING SHIFTS.
SIX OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE PEOPLE ON SITE AND MAYBE SIX EMPLOYEES WOULD BE THE DELIVERY DRIVERS.
SO AS FAR AS OCCUPYING THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ONSITE, UM, WE'D BE LOOKING AT ABOUT 12 EMPLOYEES, THE, UM, QUESTION REGARDING THE NUMBER OF TRUCK TRIPS.
SO THE DELIVERIES I BELIEVE, AND WE CAN DEFER, WE CAN ALSO, UM, HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO, BUT IT CAN RANGE.
IT WILL BE SEVERAL DELIVERIES DURING THE DAY.
UM, THEY CAN RECEIVE ONLINE ORDERS, TELEPHONE ORDERS OF THE SIX VEHICLES THAT ARE OUT AND ABOUT.
I BELIEVE THEY CAN, UM, GENERATE AS MANY AS, LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS PARTICULAR I THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE RANGE OF UP TO A HUNDRED, TO 150 DELIVERIES A DAY.
I CAN CLARIFY THAT WITH HER, BUT THE RETAIL, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY CAN EVER BACKDOOR AND HAVE A RETAIL STORE THERE.
THIS IS FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL.
SO NO CUSTOMERS WOULD BE COMING TO THE RETAIL ONLINE.
SO IF I CALL UP AND SAY, HEY, I WANT A POUND OF POT.
THEY'LL GATHER UP A POUND OF POT AND BRING IT TO ME.
SO THEY WOULD FOLLOW THEIR PROCEDURES FOR ACCEPTING YOUR, YOUR ORDER PROCESSED ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THEY DO FOR ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS.
IF YOU FIND MY SAYS YOUR ORDER REPORT.
SO THE, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION IS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO DIRECT COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION ITSELF.
UM, AND THEN IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE STAFF TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE BEST TO WAIT FOR THOSE UNTIL AFTER ALL THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO AVOID A DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.
UM, WITH THAT, THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT I SEE.
UM, I ALSO LIVE ACROSS THE WAY AND I HAVE TWO, THREE YOUNG BOYS AND I'M NOT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA CREATE A MESS.
UM, YOU GOT TO, DISPENSARY'S GOING, UH, AT THE AUTO PLACE.
I ONLY KNEW ABOUT THE ONE RIGHT.
INFORMED MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS.
I SELL, YOU KNOW, IF MY BUSINESS I'M A CONTRACTOR, I'M THERE FROM 6:00 AM TILL 10 AT NIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
MY, MY FIANCE, MY GIRLFRIEND, SHE'S THERE ALL NIGHT BY HERSELF.
AND I DO NOT WANT THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CO UH, AUTO PART PLACE.
THAT'S, I'M SURPRISED NONE OF THE GUYS FROM THE AUTO PARTY.
RIGHT? SO HERE, IF THEY WERE KNEW ABOUT IT, THEY'D BE HERE SCREAMING TOO, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THAT.
IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED, 160 CARS.
YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, I'M A UNION SHOP.
MY GUYS WILL NOT HAVE TO WAIT MORE HOURS GETTING THROUGH JAMIE TO GET MATERIAL AND EQUIPMENT BECAUSE YOU GOT ANOTHER 160 VEHICLES GOING THROUGH THAT ROAD MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
WHEN I COME IN IN THE MORNING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, I CAN'T GET THROUGH.
YOU GOT RALPH'S, YOU GOT, UH, YOU GOT OUR TRUCKS.
AND THEN MY KIDS ARE RUNNING AROUND, OVER THERE.
AND THEN YOU GOT THE HOMELESS.
I HAD A, UM, MY MERCEDES WHOLE STOLEN FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND A NUMBER OF MY CATALYTIC CONVERTER HAS BEEN STOLEN.
NONE NOTHING'S HAPPENED WITH, I MADE COMPLAINTS TO THE POLICE, JUST PEOPLE STEALING THINGS FROM MY YARD.
THERE'S PEOPLE I'M THERE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.
I DON'T SEE POLICE SATURDAY NIGHTS ON THE COL-DE-SAC THERE.
WE JUST OPENED UP AN AUTO SHOP.
UH, I THINK SOME RACE CAR BUSINESS, RIGHT.
AND THE ONE OF THEY'RE GOING 80 MILES AN HOUR IN THAT JAMIE.
SO YOU THINK THIS PROPOSAL IS GOING TO WORK OVER THERE.
I'M THERE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WORKING ON BIDS SO I CAN EARN A LIVING AND PROVIDE PLACE TO WORK FOR MY EMPLOYEES.
THEY GOT GUYS ON THAT CORNER, SMOKING DOPE.
I HAVE MY, SOMETIMES MY GIRLFRIENDS THERE LATE AT NIGHT DOING HER JOB.
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THERE BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY'S WALKING AROUND THERE, I'M NOT FOR THIS.HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS DANIEL
UM, I WENT TO SONORA AND GRADUATED FROM THERE.
UH, UM, I'VE GOT, UH, I'VE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE HOMBRE.
I'VE GOT, UH, I'VE GOT INVESTMENTS.
I'VE GOT REAL ESTATE, I'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PULSE ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN LAHABRA.
UH, I, UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF PRECISION LANDSCAPE.
WE'RE ON LESLIE STREET, UH, NINE 40 LESSER STREET IN THE HIGHBROW.
THAT WOULD BE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM WHERE ONE OF, UH, THESE, UH, THESE ESTABLISHMENTS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND ABOUT SIX DOORS DOWN FROM THE SECOND ONE.
SO I KNOW THE STREET PRETTY WELL AND EVERYTHING THAT, UH, THAT MY BUDDIES BACK THERE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IS SPOT ON.
UM, IT'S A VERY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
HOWEVER, AT NIGHT WE DO SEE THINGS, UH, THINGS LIKE GUYS, UH, UH, UH, SMOKING POT.
UH, WE SEE GUYS, UH, RACING IN THE STREETS.
I'VE GOT A FEW LITTLE KIDS AND THEY COME TO MY OFFICE, UH, TO VISIT ME.
UM, MY WIFE BRINGS THEM OVER AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES, UH, MY WIFE WILL STAY AND WORK FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS TO HELP ME OUT.
AND THEN I TAKE THE KIDS HOME.
IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS GETS PASSED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, MORE CRIME.
IT'S VERY EVIDENT THAT WHEN YOU BRING IN A BUSINESS LIKE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN THE DEMOGRAPH.
THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE AFTER THIS SORT OF PRODUCT.
I ACTUALLY SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY.
UM, AND I HAVE, UH, DIRECT KNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
UM, I HAD TO GET OUT OF THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE A BUSINESSMAN IN IT BECAUSE IT ENDS UP INEVITABLY BRINGING IN RIFF-RAFF, UH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
MAYBE OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
THAT'S WHAT FRIENDS OF MINE WHO ARE AND HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY ALL HAVE SEEN.
SO I'M VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, IF IT EVER COMES TO A POINT WHERE ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES OR MY WIFE OR MY KIDS EVER GET HARMED BY SOMEONE IN OR AROUND THE CANNABIS ESTABLISHMENT, UM, I'M GOING TO HOLD NOT ONLY THAT ESTABLISHMENT, UH, LIABLE, I'M GOING TO HOLD, UH, THE HOSKINS BROTHERS LIABLE AND I'M GOING TO HOLD THE HOPPER LIABLE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF REVENUE FOR THE CITY OF LABRUM, BUT DOES LAHABRA REALLY NEED THAT LIABILITY? I LOVE LAHABRA LONGTIME RESIDENT.
I DON'T SEE IN OUR BOOKS WHERE WE HAVE SUCH A SHORT FALL THAT WE NEED THAT HALF PERCENT, ANOTHER 3%.
WE DON'T NEED THESE ESTABLISHMENTS FOR THE SAKE AT THE I'M SORRY, AT THE RISK OF WHAT, UH, UH, WHAT IT BRINGS.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU PLAY WITH FIRE, YOU'RE GONNA GET BURNED.
I REALLY HOPE AND WISH AND PRAY THAT, UH, UH, THAT THIS, THAT THIS DOESN'T PASS AND THAT WE DON'T SEE MORE ESTABLISHMENTS.
I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO GO TO A DIFFERENT CITY, OR I'D LIKE TO, FOR THEM TO GO TO THE DESERT WHERE, UH, WHERE PLACES LIKE ADELANTO ARE, UH, UM, ARE, ARE, ARE WELCOMING THEM.
UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THERE, UH, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CITY AND I WANT TO PROTECT IT.
ANYBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSION WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO OFFER A REBUTTAL IF THEY WOULD LIKE, AND I WILL HAVE TO HOLD YOU TO THREE MINUTES THIS TIME.
NO, I WAS QUITE LONG-WINDED THE LAST TIME.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO REMIND, UM, THE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, THE, THERE ARE EXTENSIVE CAMERAS INSTALLED WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THOSE CAMERAS FACE BOTH THE DOORWAYS AND OUTSIDE SO THAT IT CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE THREATS OUTSIDE.
UM, THERE IS ALSO A SALLY PORT INSIDE
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THE BUILDING.UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AT THE TIME, UM, TO INSTALL, UM, UPON APPROVAL OF THE CANON AMERICA FACILITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE PRODUCT WILL COME THROUGH FOR ON-DECK AS WELL, UH, BECAUSE ALL, ALL PRODUCT MUST BE RECEIVED THROUGH A LICENSED DISTRIBUTOR.
UM, AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PRODUCT THERE WILL BE OUTSIDE VENDORS THAT DON'T DISTRIBUTE THROUGH CANADA, AMERICA, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PRODUCTS WILL COME THROUGH THEIR DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
AND EVEN WHEN NOT THOSE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES WILL USE THE SALLY PORT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE'S AS MUCH SAFETY PROVIDED ON SITE AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I JUST CAN SAY THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN ON NUMEROUS PANELS REGARDING CANNABIS LAWS, CANNABIS, SAFETY, AND CANNABIS ISSUES, UM, INCLUDING SHARING ONE WITH TONY, WHERE CAUCUS, WHEN HE WAS STILL THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO CONFIRMED, UM, TO A VERY CONSERVATIVE GROUP OF FOLKS, UM, THAT, UM, THAT CRIME ACTUALLY DOES GO DOWN, UM, WHEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES ENTER INTO A COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THE REASON IS THAT NOBODY PUTS A BUNCH OF MONEY, HUNDREDS, IF NOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO A FACILITY TO HAVE RIFFRAFF HANGING OUT OR PEOPLE STEALING THINGS, UM, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THESE ARE VERY, THOSE, THESE ARE VERY, UM, UH, SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES AND BUSINESSES THAT EARN, GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE, UM, AND SAFETY IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO THEM.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANYBODY'S CARD, UM, AND GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM, UM, AND, AND LET THEM MEET WITH THE APPLICANT HIMSELF WITH MR. DE SIMONE.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU, I I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, UM, AND HAVE WORKED WITH HIM FOR FOUR YEARS.
UM, HE DOESN'T LET ME WALK TO MY CAR AT NIGHT BY MYSELF.
SO I DEFINITELY HEAR THESE GENTLEMEN BACK HERE THAT HAVE CONCERNS OVER, YOU KNOW, THEIR SAFETY AND THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE DARK, BUT FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CANNABIS BUSINESSES CAUSING THE ISSUE OR BRINGING THE RIFF RAFF.
AND IN FACT, WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO SMOKE OR CONSUME CANNABIS INSIDE OR ANYWHERE AROUND THE PREMISES.
UM, THAT WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR REVOCATION.
AND AGAIN, NOBODY WANTS TO PUT THAT AT RISK.
SO THERE ISN'T POT SMOKING GOING ON ON SITE.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THING.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR EMOTION ON ITEM ONE AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D COMMISSIONER, AVERAGE COMMISSION NUMBER NEAR WELL FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE PROJECT NEXT TO IT.
I'M THE ONLY COMMISSIONER HERE THAT LIVES IN THE AREA.
AND THE ONLY ONE THAT LIVES ON THIS SIDE OF, UH, HOMBRE WHERE THESE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
UH, I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M HAPPY ABOUT ANY OF THE PROJECTS MYSELF.
I DO NOT LIKE THE AGREEMENTS ON ALL FOUR.
OUR PERCENTAGE WAS 3.75 BEFORE IT'S ONLY 5%.
THE, UM, DELIVERY IS DIFFERENT TOO.
I'D RATHER IT GO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INDESCRIPT CARS INSTEAD OF DOING IT UBER STYLE.
THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT BEFORE I'VE BEEN HERE THIS WHOLE TIME.
UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SIX YEARS AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THIS PROJECT, ABSOLUTELY AGAINST ALL OF IT.
AND IT WAS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND IT WAS THE POLICE CHIEF THAT I'VE WORKED CLOSE WITH FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
AND ONE OF THE DETECTIVES THAT CAME IN AND EX BLAMED ALL OF THIS STUFF TO ME AND TO THE GROUP, THIS IS ALL A NEW GROUP, THOUGH, NEW COMMISSION FROM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS AND WE APPROVED QUITE A FEW PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY HAD GOOD, UM, A GOOD PLAN PUT TOGETHER, GOOD PERCENTAGE.
WE WEREN'T DOING WELL VERY, VERY WELL AFTER THE PANDEMIC.
WE'VE DONE A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
SO ON ALL FOUR PROJECTS, MY ANSWER IS GOING TO BE A NO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MANLY.
HEAR, UH, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
UM, I ALSO DON'T, UM, I GUESS I COULD SAY I'M EMPATHETIC TO EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS.
UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, A LAW WAS PASSED AND ULTIMATELY IF THEY'RE MEETING THE GUIDELINES AND THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE, THE AGREEMENT AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A YEAR WITH NO CON WITH NO INCIDENTS, UM, IT'S HARD OR DIFFICULT FOR ME NOT TO ALLOW A BUSINESS TO FUNCTION IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY, BY THE STATE, ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE.
I GUESS THIS WILL BE DIRECTED TO STAFF, UM, OR MAYBE ATTORNEY COLLINS.
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JUST A SUMMARY OF MEASURED W UM, AND MORE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS A PART OF THAT MEASURE W WAS A MEASURE.IT WAS A COUNCIL SPONSORED INITIATIVE THAT PUT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD ALLOW NON STOREFRONT RETAIL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY AND WHETHER OR NOT TO INCREASE THE CAP.
UM, THERE WAS A COMPANION, UH, QUESTION ON THE SAME BALLOT THAT ALLOWED THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, IMPOSING A TAX UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UM, AND THE VOTERS APPROVED BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE FELONY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO SEVEN FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND EVERYONE.
OH, I GUESS IT'S COMING UP AS A MAN, MAN.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO DO A VOICE VOTE SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR AS TO WHAT VOTES EACH COMMISSIONER IS MAKING? THIS IS CONFUSING TO ME AND IT MAY BE CONFUSING TO THE, UM, ANYBODY ELSE THAT LOOKS AT THE RECORD.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO AT 4 4 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PO EXCUSE ME.
THERE'S, THERE'S STILL THE ITEM OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATION TOWARDS WHETHER THE COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THERE WERE, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE BEFORE YOU.
ONE IS THE CUP AND THE OTHER IS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE ONLY VOTED ON THE CUP, CORRECT.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF THE HOPPER RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO TWO, BETWEEN THE CITY OF THE HARBOR AND ON-DECK DELIVERY, LLC FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1000 SOUTH LESLIE STREET, SUITE D AS PER ATTACHMENT A, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND EVERYONE.
CAN WE HAVE A VOICE VOICE PLEASE? ROLL CALL VICE CHAIR ROJAS.
COMMISSIONER BERNIER, NO EMOTION.
A VOTE IS A TUTU DOES NOT PASS.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO AT 4 4 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS CHAD BANCA WITH ORBIS PUBLIC AFFAIRS.
I'M A MUNICIPAL CANNABIS POLICY EXPERT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I'VE GOT WITH ME AARON HERZBERG AND
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BRENDA LYNN THEY'RE BOTH OWNERS.DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS LOCATED ON IMPERIAL HIGHWAY AND IS LOCATED IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY BUSINESSES OPERATING IN THE BUILDING.
WE MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY, ALTHOUGH REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ORDINANCE AS STAFF HAS MENTIONED, AND WE DO NOT VIOLATE ANY OF THE SETBACKS FOR SENSITIVE USES PART OF OUR, IN PART OF OUR PLAN, WE DID LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THAT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF US ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR LOCATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE SIX LANES OF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY THERE'S THE DRAINAGE DITCH AND A VERY HIGH WALL.
UM, SO THERE IS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE SETBACK FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH RESIDENTIAL IS NOT CONSIDERED A SENSITIVE USE, WE WILL ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH OFFICER AVAILABLE.
IF SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY DOES HAVE A PROBLEM, OR IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH OUR LOCATION.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT, I THINK THE WHOLE TERM THAT IS, THAT COMES FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS NON STOREFRONT.
RETAIL IS VERY CONFUSING FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, RETAIL MEANS YOU CAN COME AND BUY SOMETHING.
AND I KNOW THE CITY OF LAHABRA DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS TERM.
NONE OF THE OTHER CITIES DID, BUT REALLY IT'S DELIVERY.
THERE ARE NO, UH, THERE ARE NO, YOU KNOW, PATRONS COMING TO THIS LOCATION.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE HANGING AROUND.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE LINING UP.
THE ONLY TRAFFIC VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WOULD BE EMPLOYEES WHO WILL BE COMING INTO OUR LOCATION IN TWO DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND THEN DELIVERY DRIVERS AND DELIVERY.
DRIVERS WILL BE ENTERING INTO THE BUILDING.
THE DELIVERIES WILL BE LOADED INTO THE VEHICLE, AND THEN THEY'LL BE PULLING OUT THE BACK OF, OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE HAVE A THROAT, UH, UH, SALLY PORT, THAT'S A PULL THROUGH.
SO YOU DON'T BACK IN AND THEN GO OUT AGAIN.
THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PULL YOUR CAR IN AND GET IT WORKED ON, AND THEN GOING OUT THE BACK, IT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE USING IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
UM, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE MEETING THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
AND BY MEASURE, MEASURE W AS APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SET OF GUIDELINES IS GIVEN TO ALL OF THE APPLICANTS.
SO WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND THEN ADDED A FEW EXTRAS.
LIKE I SAID, THAT THE COMMUNITY LIAISON OFFICER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THESE ARE IN INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY, BUT OUR CONCERN IS THAT IF ANY OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES OR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AT ALL HAS AN ISSUE THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN SPEAK TO AND THAT WE WILL RESPOND TO THOSE CONCERNS VERY PROACTIVELY.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
AND WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. VANKA IS IVANKA ACCESS INTO YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, IS THAT THROUGH IMPERIAL OR IS THAT THROUGH LESLIE? THAT PARCEL HAS GOT ACCESS ON BOTH.
AND DO WE ANTICIPATE DELIVERIES AND JUST, I GUESS THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO GO BOTH WAYS, IT WILL BE EASIER FOR THE DELIVERY DRIVERS JUST TO PULL OUT ON TO IMPERIAL.
THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DELIVERING UP LESLEY.
SO THE ANTICIPATION WOULD BE THAT THE DRIVERS, UM, AND THERE'LL BE LOADED WITH MULTIPLE DELIVERIES, BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE PULLING OUT OF IMPERIAL.
HOW ABOUT POLLING IN THE SAME WAY? IT'S LIKELY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THE DRIVERS WILL GO ON AND OFF OF IMPERIAL.
SO YOU WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE, OR THE OPERATOR WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS TRAFFIC COMING IN NORTH OF LESLIE AND THEN INTO THE PARCEL THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING THEM FOR? NO, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
SO IT WOULD BE LESS CONVENIENT FOR THE DRIVERS.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO BE SECOND GUESSING MYSELF.
WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT ON IMPERIAL IS 4 21 AND YOU'RE AT 4 41.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY, I JUST HAVE LIKE THE PARCEL MAP.
I DON'T HAVE AN AERIAL SHOT, SO I CAN'T SEE DRIVEWAYS NECESSARILY.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE RIGHT ON IMPERIAL, WHAT I'M SEEING, DOESN'T SHOW THAT I'M THINKING OF THE PARCEL, THE SITE.
IT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LESLEY AND IMPERIAL.
SO THEY JUST PULLED IT UP RIGHT HERE SO WE CAN REFERENCE THIS.
SO THE BUILDING OF THE NORTH THAT'S ORIENTED EAST AND WEST.
CAN YOU EXPAND THE IMAGE? OKAY.
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OKAY.SO THE RED AREA GO BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS.
THAT'S YOUR SUITE AT 4 41, RIGHT? I'VE BEEN BY THE SITE AND THIS IS WHAT I OBSERVED AS WELL.
AND WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING TO ME IS YOU THINK INGRESS EGRESS WOULD BE THROUGH IMPERIAL.
JUST SEEMS LIKE THE OPPOSITE WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT TO ME TO COME IN OFF OF LESLIE.
INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH LIKE THAT TIGHT DRIVEWAY WHERE THIS SHOT SHOWS ALL THOSE LIKE CARS, PRETTY CONGESTED IN THERE.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FROM THIS CITY THAT THEY USE EITHER EGRESS.
SO I THINK IT'LL, I THINK IT'LL DEPEND ON WHERE THE DELIVERY DRIVERS COMING FROM AND THEN POSSIBLY THEIR PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
UM, I DRIVE MY WIFE CRAZY BECAUSE I'LL TAKE SURFACE STREETS TO GO PLACES RATHER THAN HOP ON THE FREEWAY BECAUSE I'D RATHER TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AND NOT BE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
SO I THINK SOME DRIVERS WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GET ON IMPERIAL RATHER THAN DEAL WITH THE LIGHT AT LESLEY.
SO DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THEY'RE GOING.
AND THEN AS FAR AS STAFF GOES ON, THIS IS THAT'S ACCURATE THAT THERE'S NO DIRECTION OF WHERE DRUG DELIVERIES HAVE TO COME FROM OR GO FROM THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE AGREEMENT.
AND DO YOU HAVE, UM, MAYBE SOME CLEAR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THESE DELIVERY VEHICLES, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE? THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALL.
WE WANT THEM TO BE NONDESCRIPT.
SO THERE ARE PASSENGER VEHICLES AND TYPICALLY FOUR DOOR PASSENGER VEHICLES AND DELIVERIES FROM DISTRIBUTORS THAT COME TO THESE LOCATIONS WILL TYPICALLY BE THE SAME TYPES OF SAME TYPE AND SIZE OF BOX TRUCKS THAT YOU'D HAVE DELIVERING AUTO PARTS OR, YOU KNOW, PRODUCTS TO ANY OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES.
SO IT'S UNLIKELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SIGNAGE UP THERE.
THERE'S NO BIG POT LEAF WAS SIGNED.
SO THE GOAL OF THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, I I'D SAY FOR ALL OF THEM IS THEY'RE NONDESCRIPT.
AND IT'S LIKELY THAT NOBODY WILL EVEN KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES THEY'RE.
SO PRODUCT COMING IN ON SAID, BOX TRUCK AND PRODUCT LEAVING IN MORE OF A PASSENGER TYPE VEHICLE.
SO DELIVERIES TO THE CUSTOMER WOULD BE MADE IN THE PASSENGER VEHICLES, RIGHT? RANDO SENDING IN BOX TRUCK, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE BULK LARGER BULK DELIVERIES.
AND ALL OF THESE CALIFORNIA STATE LAW REQUIRES WHAT'S CALLED A SEED TO SALE TRACKING.
SO WHEN MATERIAL COMES INTO THESE, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE LIKE, IF YOU WERE ORDERING STYROFOAM CUPS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT JUST IN A BIG PILE, THEY'RE PACKAGED, THEY'RE SEALED ALL OF THESE, UM, ALL OF THIS MATERIAL, WHETHER IT'S A VAPE PENS OR FLOUR, IT'S, PRE-PACKAGED, IT'S BARCODED, IT'S SEALED.
AND EVERY SINGLE IS TRACKED FROM THE DISTRIBUTOR TO THE CUSTOMER SO THAT WE, AND THE DISTRIBUTOR AND THE CULTIVATOR CAN TRACK IT AND REPORT THAT TO THE STATE FROM BEGINNING TO END.
I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. IVANKA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? WE SHOULD BRING IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? EXCUSE ME.
ANYBODY ELSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
AGAIN, MY NAME'S RACER REALLY WITH A PLASTIC TOPS, 5 21 EAST, JAMIE, THIS FACILITY, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING THERE 38 YEARS COMING DOWN IMPERIAL HIGHWAY WEST FROM THE 57 FREEWAY.
SO FOR YEARS AND YEARS, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS IMPERIAL HIGHWAY AT THAT SPOT IS A VERY BUSY, FAST, UH, AREA.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A RIGHT ON LESLEY.
CAUSE IT'S MUCH SAFER THAN TO TRY TO GO BEYOND LESLEY AND MAKE THAT TURN WHERE YOU COULD GET REAR-ENDED AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN COMING EASTBOUND.
SO THEY'RE FORCED TO GO UP TO LESLIE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO PUT A LOT OF CONGESTION WITH THESE VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT.
AND WHO COULD SAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THIS IS A CANNABIS FACILITY WHEN YOU HAVE VEHICLES 50 A HUNDRED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING INTO A VERY SMALL, UH, AUTO CENTER AREA AND ROLLING IN AND ROLLING OUT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS ALL DAY LONG.
IT WOULDN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO REALIZE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
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MY NAME IS SAM SILVA.UM, I'M AT FIVE 10, JAMIE LUCAS BUILDERS.
I OWN THE PROPERTY AND ACROSS THE STREET IS WHERE I LIVE.
UH THERE'S THAT WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER IS HIGHLY CONGESTED.
I GOT REAR-ENDED TWICE GOING THERE TO GET TACOS FROM THAT CORNER.
I WALKED TO THE, NOW I WALKED TO THE, UH, TACO JOINT AND, AND THE SUBWAY THERE AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS ACROSS THE WAY FROM THE BUILDING THAT HE'S LOOKING AT RANT IS, UM, DANIEL'S AUTO SHOP, WHICH DANIEL HAS HIS KID OVER THERE.
HE'S TOTALLY AGAINST, IT WOULD BE TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
AND IF WE'RE SAYING 160 CARS A DAY, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 CARS AN HOUR COMING IN THERE THAT'S EVERY PLUS OR MINUS SEVEN MINUTES, UH, IT'S GONNA, IT CREATES SO MUCH CONGESTION.
YOU GOT THE CARWASH, YOU GOT THE AUTO REPAIR FACILITY AND THE FOOD JOINT.
AND SO, AND THEN POT WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.
AND THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR IF YOU PASS OUT RIGHT STALL THERE.
AND THEN WHAT IS THAT? YOU GOT THE FULLERTON SCHOOL DISTRICT, A BUS DEPOT THERE.
SO WE'LL JUST GET THE POT DELIVERED AND THEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND SO IT'S A QUESTION OF MATH AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN ONE SMALL AREA.
YOU SAID YOU COULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 160 DELIVERIES A DAY.
THAT'S 480 DELIVERIES ON LESLIE.
I HAVE NEVER, IN 20 YEARS SEEN A DELIVERY TRUCK GO IN THAT CENTER OFF OF IMPERIAL.
LESLIE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IMPERIAL.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE SHARP, LEFT THE RIGHT AND GO PASS THE DIVIDER.
THEY CAN'T DO IT IN A BIG RIG.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BIG RIGS GOING UP.
LESLIE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SCHOOL BUSES TRYING TO GO IN AND OUT OF LESLIE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ROSS DELIVERY TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT OF LESLEY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF KRAMER, UH, OUT OF KAISER ON LESLIE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROSE PARADE THERE.
ANYBODY ELSE AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSIONER WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO OFFER EVERY BOTTLE IF THEY WOULD LIKE, THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR.
UM, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS.
UM, IN OUR APPLICATION, WE'LL HAVE SIX TO SEVEN DRIVERS.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING AND GOING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 168 VEHICLES.
THERE ARE NO BIG RIGS COMING TO THIS LOCATION.
UM, SO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE MINOR.
THIS ISN'T A DISTRIBUTION CENTER LIKE YOU THINK OF WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, ALBERTSONS OR ANY OF THE OTHER LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.
THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL SCALE BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE.
SO MULTIPLE DELIVERIES WOULD BE LOADED ONTO ONE OF THE PASSENGER NONDESCRIPT DELIVERY VEHICLES.
THEY WILL GO OUT AND MAKE MULTIPLE DELIVERIES AND THEN COME BACK.
SO THIS REALLY, THIS IS A LEGAL BUSINESS UNDER STATE LAW AND UNDER CITY LAW.
AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF BUSINESSES.
ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT EVERY BUSINESS PERSON THAT'S COME UP HERE GETS DELIVERIES TO THEIR BUSINESSES, WHETHER IT'S, UM, PAPER CUPS OR IT'S MATERIALS THAT YOU USE IN THE BUSINESS.
BUT IF YOU THINK OF THIS AS A BUSINESS, LIKE ANY OTHER, EVERY BUSINESS GETS MATERIALS DELIVERED BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE SIX TO SEVEN DELIVERY DRIVERS.
THERE WILL BE SOME SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, BUT AUTO SHOPS HAVE CARS COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME ALSO.
AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE HAD THAT HAVE APPROVED THIS, UM, I JUST RECENTLY SAW A PRESENTATION AT THE CITY OF WESTMINSTER WHERE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND FOUND THAT WHEN CRIME WAS GOING UP IN SOME CITIES BY 9%, WITHIN 500 FEET OF A DISPENSARY, WHICH THIS ISN'T EVEN A DISPENSARY, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A DELIVERY LOCATION.
SO THERE'S NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY CAMERAS AND THE SECURITY GUARDS, CRIME WENT DOWN BY 1% IN THOSE CITIES.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN THAT THESE ARE NOT DISPENSARIES IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THERE ARE NO BIG RIGS THAT WILL NOT BE 168 VEHICLES GOING IN AND OUT OF THESE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO, AND ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION FOR ITEM
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TWO AT 4 0 1 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E COMMISSIONERS ARE RICH, NO COMMENT, COMMISSIONER BERNIER, NOTHING COMMISSIONER MANLEY.UM, WAS THERE ANY NEED OR I GUESS, STATUTORY OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE FOR ANY TYPE OF PARKING STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CPS? SO AGAIN, LET ME CLARIFY.
I THINK I AGREE THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE NUMBERS.
THERE ARE AN ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF DELIVERIES TRANSACTIONS THAT COULD RANGE UP TO 168 TO 150 OR SO TRANSACTIONS A DAY.
LET ME JUMP IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REVISIT THAT THAT'S THE PROJECTION FROM THE APPLICANT.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY THAT IS PER THE BUSINESS PLAN? YES.
AND IF THAT WERE TO TRIPLE UNEXPECTEDLY BUSINESSES THRIVING, UM, HOW, HOWEVER IT IS TRUE, THE APPLICANT WILL ONLY HAVE AN IN THIS PARTICULAR FOR 4 41 EAST IMPERIAL HAVE ABOUT 27 EMPLOYEES, 16 OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE EXPECTED TO BE ONSITE.
THE BALANCE OF THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS IT'S POSSIBLE FOR A DRIVER TO CONDUCT MULTIPLE DELIVERIES, NOT NECESSARILY ONE DELIVERY TRIP FOR EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION.
IS THERE ANYTHING PROHIBITIVE IN THE CUP THAT WOULD PREVENT THOSE NUMBERS FROM SWELLING THOUGH? SO IF THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE OFF AND BUSINESSES, WAY BETTER THAN THEY ANTICIPATED AND THEY NEED MORE EMPLOYEES, IS THAT A MODIFICATION TO THE CUP THEY NEED, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WAY MORE DELIVERIES.
MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THE CITY AT THAT POINT, LETS THE BUSINESS OPERATE AND ISN'T GOING TO BE KEEPING TRACK OF GOSH.
THEY SAID THEY'D HAVE 216 DELIVERIES AND THIS MONTH THEY HAD 300.
UM, WE DON'T POLICE THAT WHATSOEVER.
CORRECT? NO, BUT I THINK THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE MONITORED REGULARLY.
I WOULD EXPECT JUST LIKE ANY BUSINESS THAT THEY WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE POTENTIAL GROWTH IN THE FUTURE.
SHOULD IT BECOME AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE? WE COULD POTENTIALLY REVISIT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BASED ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DELIVERY AT ANY GIVEN SHIFT DURING THE DAY.
I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO'S HERE TONIGHT AND I'M ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF THE PUBLIC SHOWING UP AND VOICING THEIR CONCERNS GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT FOR PROJECTS IS IN THE CASE OF THAT HAPPENING.
LET'S SAY IF THE PROJECT WERE TO PASS AND THE CONCERNS OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON THAT BACK, IS IT JAMIE? IS THAT AN ON JAMIE OR ON LESLIE OR MR. TURNER WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT IF THAT PROJECT PASSES AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, GOSH, AND, AND WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THEY WANT TO SIT OUT THERE WITH A NOTEPAD AND SAY, THEY SAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE 200 DELIVERIES AND THERE'S, IT SEEMS LIKE 400.
UM, AT THAT POINT, WHAT CAN THE COMMUNITY DO? WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC DO? I THINK WE LOOK TO ALL APPLICANTS TO FOLLOW THEIR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, IF FOR SOME REASON, AND PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD HELP CHIME IN IF THEY WERE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER EACH OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE JUST CAUSE FOR REEVALUATING THE APPROVAL AND POSSIBLE RE REVOCATION.
IS THAT PROCESS HAPPEN JUST AT CITY HALL OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL OR THE REVOCATION OF A CUP IS A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND IT WOULD NEED TO, UH, BE CONDUCTED AT A HEARING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST ADVISE THAT IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT INCLUDE A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF DELIVERIES, UH, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE TO IMPOSE ANY, ANY TYPE OF, UM, ENFORCEMENT AS LONG AS THE BUSINESSES AND OPERATING IN A NUISANCE MANNER OR IN SOME OTHER WAY, VIOLATING A LAW.
I KNOW I INTERRUPTED YOU, YOU, YOU WERE REVISITING THAT.
UM, AND THEN YOU WERE GOING TO CONTINUE.
SO IF I MESSED UP YOUR OF THOUGHT, I APOLOGIZE.
NO, I, I THINK I, THE MESSAGE I WANTED JUST TO CONVEY THIS, TO CLARIFY WHILE THE NUMBER OF DELIVERIES SEEMS HIGH, IT IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF
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VEHICLE TRIPS TO, AND FROM THE SITE, THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS.AGAIN, WE ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, 16 EMPLOYEES TO BE ON SITE OF THE 20 TOTAL OF 27.
THE RE REMAINING BALANCE WOULD BE DELIVERY DRIVERS.
THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PARK ONSITE AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE DAY, THERE'LL BE MAKING THOSE DELIVERIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT 150 PLUS TRIPS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY, BUT THE HANDFUL OF VEHICLES, WHICH WOULD BE IN THIS CASE, 10, 11 VEHICLES, EACH VEHICLE MAKING POTENTIALLY MULTIPLE TRANSACTIONS DELIVERIES A DAY CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CUP THAT SPEAKS TO TIME OF DELIVERY? SO I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THOUGH, IS, I MEAN, OPERATING HOURS MEAN DELIVERY.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE OPERATING FROM, I THINK NUMBER TWO IS THE ONE THAT'S SIX TO 10.
ACTUALLY THE REST ARE EIGHT TO 10, BUT THE ONE THAT WE'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW IS FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
IS THAT CORRECT? MR. MANCHA, THANK YOU.
UM, PRODUCT COMING IN ANYTIME FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY THAT DON'T OPERATE THAT WAY.
PRODUCT COMES IN EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THEN THERE'S NOT TRUCKS 24 7.
UM, IS, IS THIS THAT, OR IS THIS DELIVERIES CAN BE COMING IN FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
ARE YOU ASKING WHAT THEIR PEAK IS FOR MAKING DELIVERIES PEAK TIMES? IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S ASKING, IS THERE DELIVERIES ALL DAY LONG OR IS THERE A SET AMOUNT OF TIME WHEN DELIVERIES ARE ONLY DELIVERED SPECIFICALLY TO MERCHANDISE CANNABIS THAT'S COMING TO THE FACILITY? I KNOW THAT I'M, I'M GOING TO ASSUME FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE FULFILLING ORDERS DELIVERING OUT IN THEIR PASSENGER VEHICLES.
THE BOX TRUCKS COMING IN WITH MERCHANDISE.
IS THAT ALSO GOING TO OCCUR FROM 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM? OR IS THERE LANGUAGE IN THE CUP THAT WOULD STIPULATE THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN IN CERTAIN WINDOWS OF THE DAY? I WOULD ASK TO INVITE BACK THE APPLICANT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES WHEN THEIR CUSTOMERS COME TO AND FROM THE BUSINESS.
THANK YOU, MR. VANCO, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? I'M PRETTY SURE I DO.
IF I, IF I DON'T ANSWER IT, PLEASE STOP ME.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 TIMES A WEEK WOULD BE AN INCOMING DELIVERY WHERE THE BUSINESS, THE DELIVERY BUSINESS WOULD BE RECEIVING PRODUCTS.
UM, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF YOU, IF YOU WENT TO SEVEN 11, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING DELIVERIES ALL DAY LONG, TYPICALLY YOU'LL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, PEPSI CO IS GOING TO STOCK THEIR, THEIR MERCHANDISE, YOU KNOW, ONCE A WEEK.
UM, SO THE TIME THE OPERATING HOURS, SIX TO 10 IS WHEN ALL ACTIVITY WOULD BE TAKING PLACE, WHETHER IT'S DELIVERY DRIVERS GOING OUTBOUND.
AND I WORKED AS A DELIVERY DRIVER WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
AND THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO HAVE EACH DELIVERY DRIVER MAKE AS MANY DELIVERIES AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT YOU DON'T WANT IS DELIVERIES, DELIVERY DRIVERS GOING OUT AND MAKING ONE DELIVERY AND THEN COMING BACK.
SO FEW I WORKED FOR DOMINO'S, UM, WASN'T A GREAT JOB, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, THEY TRY AND LOAD YOU UP WITH AS MANY PIZZAS AS POSSIBLE TO GO OUT AND DELIVER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES.
AND IT'S JUST NOT, UH, IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE JUST TO DO ONE EACH TIME.
SO A DELIVERY DRIVER SHOULD SPEND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME AWAY FROM THE LOCATION, MAKING DELIVERIES AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE, THESE ARE SMALL BAGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, EVERYTHING'S SEALED UP AND IT'S NOTED.
SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING, WHO IT'S GOING TO, EVERYTHING'S BEEN VERIFIED.
UM, SO YOU CAN FIT A LOT OF DELIVERIES IN EACH VEHICLE.
UH, BUT THINK ABOUT EIGHT TO 10, UH, DELIVERIES INCOMING TO THE LOCATION PER WEEK DURING BUSINESS HOURS OF SIX TO 10.
THAT, I GUESS THAT'S THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR EIGHT TO 10 A WEEK.
IS THAT IN THE CUP? UH, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CPS I HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND, AND, AND LET ME ALLOW ME A FEW MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THE CONDITION AND YOU DON'T
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HAVE ANY BETTER EXPECTATION AS TO WHAT TIME THOSE DELIVERIES WOULD BE OR COULD BE.I KNOW YOU SAID DURING BUSINESS HOURS, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY GIVE US ALL A WHOLE LOT OF DELIVERIES.
NO, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE, YOU KNOW, WHO THE COMPANY IS DOING.
THE DELIVERIES IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN YOU'RE HAVING ANY SORT OF MATERIAL COME IN.
UM, ALSO WORKED AT SEVEN 11 WHEN I WAS 14.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE GUYS WERE SUPPOSED TO COME IN AT A CERTAIN TIME, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, AT THE PREVIOUS DELIVERY.
SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU'LL TAKE INCOMING DELIVERIES AT ALMOST ANY BUSINESS.
UM, IF IT'S A BUSINESS HOURS TYPE OF BUSINESS WHERE YOU ONLY RECEIVE INCOMING DELIVERIES DURING BUSINESS HOURS, IT CAN VARY DURING THE DAY.
SO I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING, YOU KNOW, WHAT TIME OF DAY IT WOULD COME, WHETHER IT BE AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR LATER IN THE EVENING, WHAT'D YOU HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING THOSE EIGHT TO 10 DELIVERIES THAT ARE COMING IN? ARE THOSE ALL COMING FROM THE SAME DISTRIBUTOR? IT COULD BE VR FOR VARIOUS DISTRIBUTORS, BUT IT MUST BE A LEGAL, LICENSED DISTRIBUTOR.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU SAY EIGHT TO 10, THAT IT WOULD BE EIGHT TO 10 DIFFERENT DISTRIBUTORS, ONE PER WEEK FROM EACH PROBABLY NOT PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BEST BUSINESS SETUP IS TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE DISTRIBUTOR.
UM, BUT KIND OF LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU OWN A SEVEN 11, PEPSI'S GOT ONE LINE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GET COCA-COLA, YOU'VE GOT TO GET, GET IT FROM THEM.
SO YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT BUSINESS LINES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENTS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT IT WOULD BE JUST ONE DISTRIBUTION COMPANY PROVIDING THAT.
IF I, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IF THIS GOES TO 300 DELIVERIES OR WHAT'S LIKELY TO HAPPEN IS, UM, AND I'LL GO BACK TO DOMINO'S PIZZA.
IF YOU'RE DOMINO'S IS I WORKED AT THE ONE RIGHT BY FULLERTON COLLEGE, IF YOU'RE DOMINO'S IS DOING REALLY GOOD OR LIKE ON THE WEEKEND, WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU DO A LOT BETTER THAN YOU DO ON A MONDAY NIGHT, SAY WHAT YOU TYPICALLY WILL DO IS JUST LOAD MORE PIZZAS INTO EACH DELIVERY VEHICLE.
AND PIZZA HAS TO COME UP, HAS TO SHOW UP HOT.
SO YOU HAVE TO HUSTLE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THERE'S A LOT MORE BACK AND FORTH IN THIS CASE.
IT DOESN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET A TIP WHEN IT'S NOT HOT, WHICH HAPPENED QUITE A BIT, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, UM, THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE GOAL WOULD REALLY BE TO HAVE EACH DRIVER MAKE MORE DELIVERIES.
SO THEIR TRIP COUNT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TIMES THEY COME INTO AND OUT OF THE FACILITY, THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO EVEN IF IT WENT FROM 150 TO 300 EXTERNAL DELIVERIES, YOU'D SEE AN INCREASE IN, IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, COMING IN AND OUT HOW MANY TIMES THE DRIVERS COME IN AND OUT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO DOUBLE.
SO FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN THE DRAFT CUP RESOLUTION CONDITION, NUMBER 63, IT IDENTIFIES THE BUSINESS OPERATOR SHALL ACCEPT SHIPMENTS OF CANNABIS AND CANNABIS PRODUCTS ONLY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6:00 AM AND 10:00 PM.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME FOR MR. IVANKA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS TO STAFF OR MR. MANCHA? YEAH.
UH, DO YOU WANT ANY DISCUSSION OR YEAH, WE CAN SKIP THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO KNOW YOUR GUTS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CARRY NOTHING? NO.
MR. MANLEY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, NO, I'M GOOD.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF THE HARBOR APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ZERO FIVE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 4 41 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE A SECOND.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE? UH, VICE-CHAIR ROJAS.
CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? UM,
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SORRY.APPROVING THE RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO ONE, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA BARBARA AND ESSENTIAL ROUTES.
LAHABRA LLC FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 4 41 EAST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY, SUITE E AS PER ATTACHMENT A.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND, THE MOTION.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? VICE CHAIR ROJAS.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
I AM THE OWNER OF JB FOUR 20 AND ALSO THE DISTRIBUTION SIDE, WHICH IS PINNACLE WELDERS GROUP.
I AM A RESIDENT OF LAHABRA FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.
I GRABBED JUMPED ON IT BACK IN 2018, INVESTED QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR THAT PROPERTY.
AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD DOING BUSINESSES IN THE CITY NOW TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT, I MEAN, A LOT OF ANSWERS QUESTIONS BEEN ANSWERED HERE.
SO, UM, WE TRAFFIC AS AN ISSUE, LIKE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT FOR DELIVERY.
THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU JUST KIND OF LIKE, YOU WANT TO UTILIZE YOUR DRIVERS.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE ROAD A LOT.
UM, MY LITTLE SECTION IS ON MOUNTAIN, NEW MOUNTAIN BEYOND IF YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE IT IS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, OUR PUBLIC THING, WHICH IS, THERE'S NOT ALL MY NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE ALL SMALL, UM, UH, OUTFITS.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF PARKING OVER THERE AS WE SPEAK.
I'M IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MANLEY ABOUT, UH, RETAIL, UH, BOTH GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS.
SO YEAH, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU USUALLY DO TO BE EFFICIENT IS YOU SAY, OKAY, I WANT YOU TO DELIVER SPECIFICALLY, SINCE YOU'RE BUYING, YOU HAVE CONTROL ON THIS, YOU CAN SAY, HEY KOCH, I WANT YOU HERE BETWEEN NINE AND 10.
SO USUALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS BRING, UM, THIS DISTRICT DISTRIBUTORS IN AT THE SAME TIME, SO THAT WE JUST GET THAT OVER WITH EITHER TO TWICE A WEEK OR BETWEEN CERTAIN TIMES.
AND THAT SAVES ON LABOR AS WELL.
SO THAT IF THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TO THIS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, HOPEFULLY A LOT TO THE TAXPAYERS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND ASK ME, SORRY.
I SAID, NO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, YOU'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY IN BUSINESS AND YOU'RE JUST EXPANDING.
NO, NO, I'M IN, I'M IN, WE'RE IN THE, I HAVE THE DISTRIBUTION SIDE.
SO, SO THE STATE MANDATES TO HAVE A SEPARATE UNIT FOR EVERY LICENSE.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTION, YOU HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY HAVE ONE ADDRESS.
AND IF YOU COULD DO, UM, DELIVERIES, A CERTAIN ADDRESS AND LABORATORIES HAVE DIFFERENT ADDRESSES FOR EACH, THEY DON'T LET YOU JUST MIX THEM UP ON THE SAME UNIT, WHICH IS WHY I SPLIT THAT INTO TWO UNITS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, SORRY, ANYBODY ELSE UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? OKAY.
NOW WE WERE HERE FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
UM, MY NAME IS ROBERT HENRIQUEZ.
I LIVE AT 5 28 SOUTH WALNUT AND ALSO IN THE PROPERTY AT 4 21, WHICH IS THE CORNER ON THE EXCUSE ME, SOUTH EAST SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION.
UM, 4 21, 4 21 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AND MOUNTS 5 28 SOUTH WALNUT.
SO I HAD, UH, SOME COMMENTS I WROTE UP.
I THOUGHT I WAS SPEAKING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I WAS BLINDSIDED BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S FOUR OF THEM.
I THINK EACH OF US THEY'VE ALREADY LEFT.
WE EACH THOUGHT THERE WAS JUST ONE.
SO NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THE WHOLE FOR A FEW THOUGHTS ON THE CANNABIS DISPENSARY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE LACK OF QUALITY OF LIFE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I RETURNED TO AND NOW LIVE IN THE HOME.
I WAS RAISED A TYPICAL EVENING MEANS ENDURING COUNTLESS CARS, DRIVING BY WITH STEREOS OR EXHAUSTS THAT EASILY EXCEED A HUNDRED DECIBELS.
THE NOISE FROM THOSE CARS IS ONLY EXCEEDED BY THE INTERMITTENT MUSIC COMING FROM A FEW HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET THAT PLAYED MUSIC LIKE A CONCERT VENUE OR EXPLOSIONS THAT RATTLE YOUR WINDOWS AND SET OFF YOUR CAR ALARMS. IF YOU CARE TO CHECK YOUR RECORDS, YOU WILL FIND DOZENS OF COMPLAINTS FROM MY ADDRESS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND
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ALL THAT TIME.NOT ONCE HAVE I BEEN ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY SIGN A COMPLAINT? NOW YOU WANT TO APPROVE A DISPENSARY WITH AN EXEMPTION THAT IT WILL HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT ABOUT THE CURRENT RESIDENCE, IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT? I HAVE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TO SHARE.
ONE FROM A NEPHEW THAT WORKED AS A SECURITY GUARD AT A DISPENSARY AND A FRIEND'S DAUGHTER THAT ALSO WORKED IN A DISPENSARY IN ORANGE, BOTH HAVE TOLD ME IT'S BEING HELD UP AT GUNPOINT.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE CURRENT BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA REQUIRE ARMED SECURITY.
NOW THE LAST THING, EXCUSE ME.
THE LAST THING THIS UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IS A QUESTIONABLE BUSINESS IMPACTING THEIR ENVIRONMENT.
THE ADDRESS IN QUESTION, IS IT EVEN ZONED RETAIL? IS IT THERE'S NO PARKING TO BE HAD? TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU THERE IS NO PARKING TO BE HAD CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, NIGHTLY THAT HAVE NO PARKING PERMITS AND SOME THAT DO, WHICH FAR EXCEED THE A HUNDRED PROXIMITY TO ADDRESS MENTIONED IN THE APPLICATION.
SOME OF THESE CARS ARE FROM A COUPLE OF HUNDRED YARDS AWAY DOWN THE STREET.
THE CITY KEEPS ADDING MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR THE LACK OF PARKING OR THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUMMATION.
I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER TAX REVENUE EMPLOYEE TO RAISE MORE MONEY THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
DID I MENTION MY WATER MAIN HAS RUPTURED AT LEAST FIVE TIMES WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS OF MY HOUSE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, I WAS TOLD THE MAIN WAS TO BE REPLACED MANY TIMES AT MANY YEARS AGO.
AND THE STREET REPAVED, NEITHER OF THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN FIXED.
WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT WE DO HAVE IS VERY LOUD UNDER PATROLLED UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH BADLY PAVED STREETS AND TOO MANY CARS, EXCUSE ME.
AND EVEN WORSE INFRASTRUCTURE BELOW GROUND.
WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THIS, ALLOWING THIS DISPENSARY IS GOING TO FIX THOSE IMMEDIATE NEEDS AND BRING SOME DECENT QUALITY OF LIFE IN A POSITIVE IMPACT OF MY IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT.
SO IF YOU ZOOM IN OR IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHERE THE EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA PARK, FORGET ABOUT DELIVERY, THERE IS NO PARKING.
THEY DOUBLE PARK ON THE STREET.
THE ONLY PARKING IS YOUR CITY WORKERS PARKING.
I HAVE CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE EVERY DAY THAT ARE THE WORKERS THAT LIVE IN THAT CURVATURE OF MOUNTAIN VIEW.
ALL THE OTHER ONES SEEM TO BE HUNDREDS OF FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, NOT MINE, MINE'S LESS THAN 300 FEET.
SO I'D LIKE THOSE ISSUES ADDRESS.
ANYBODY ELSE? WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
AT THIS TIME THE COMMISSION WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO OFFER A REBUTTAL IF THEY WOULD LIKE UM, HI, I THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WANNA OPEN A DIALECT THAT WE'RE MORE THAN OPEN TO, UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, SO THE STYLE THAT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME SPARS, BUT WE HAVE THE REQUIRED PARKING SPOTS IN THE, UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
THERE'S ABOUT FIVE TO SIX PARKING SPOTS FOR THE PLACE.
AND THEN ALSO THE WAY WE'RE OPERATING THE INTERIOR HAS LONG GARAGES ON BOTH THE UNITS AND USED TO BE.
SO THE UNIT A CAN HOLD ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE CARS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BEACON HOLD THREE CARS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE.
AND THEN TO ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, UH, THE PLAN IS TO GO, OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT THE GAS PRICES.
WE WANT TO GO ELECTRICAL A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NO MORE GAS.
AND THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THIS BUSINESS OPERATIONAL MOVING FORWARD.
I HOPE I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND I HOPE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL IN THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION FOR ITEM THREE AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B COMMISSIONERS ARE ITCH, NONE COMMISSIONER BERNIER.
UM, I TOTALLY GET HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER GONE THROUGH THIS AREA.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I NEED TO MAKE COMMISSIONER MANLY.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ZONING.
UM, SO THAT LITTLE POCKET OF MOUNTAIN VIEW ZONED AS WHAT IT'S M ONE, THE M ONE ZONE WITH THE PD P U D OVERLAY M ONE ZONE WITH THE PUD OVERLAY.
AND THEN I GUESS EAST OF WALNUT,
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NORTH OF LAMBERT, THERE IS ALL ZONED AS MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING.WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? LIKE EVERYTHING ON MOUNTAIN VIEW AND LIKE THAT 400 BLOCK AND ALL LIVE AND ELECTRIC RUNNING ALONG THERE.
I REALLY THINK MY EYES WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
SO THAT'S ALL OUR, FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY.
AM I SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? OKAY.
UM, AND THEN MY QUESTION WOULD GO TO, IS THERE ANY THING, OBVIOUSLY, THE, THE PROJECT IS HERE BEFORE US, SO I KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT THE, I GUESS THE SPIRIT OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANYTHING PROHIBITIVE IN THE LAW ABOUT DISTANCE FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL VERSUS MANUFACTURER AND DOES THAT DISTINGUISH TYPES OF BUSINESSES OR IS THIS BUSINESS NO DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT WANTED, IF HE WANTED TO OPEN, IF THEY WANTED TO OPEN UP A AUTO MECHANIC BUSINESS OR A, SOME OTHER CLASSIFICATION OF M ONE IS CANNABIS JUST TREATED THE SAME UNDER THE LAW.
SO THERE IS NO BUFFER OR SPACING REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW.
FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, NEITHER.
IS THERE A BUFFER OR A SPACING REQUIREMENT IN THE CITY'S CODE? THE CITY DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT THAT, BUT THE, UH, THEY HAVE NOT YET CURRENTLY IT DOESN'T EXIST.
SO IT EFFECTIVELY, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT NEXT DOOR, UH, ZERO BUFFER.
AND THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE LAW.
THAT WOULD BE, OH, THE CITY'S CODE DOES HAVE SOME SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME SPECIFIC SENSITIVE USES, BUT RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, CATEGORICALLY ARE NOT, UM, ONE OF THOSE SENSITIVE USES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MANLY AS I PREVIOUSLY REPEATED.
AND I ACTUALLY, I THINK I FORGOT TO REPEAT THIS WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
I LIKE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF A BUSINESS OWNER FOLLOWING THE CITY REGULATIONS, STATE REGULATIONS, AND BASICALLY DOING EVERYTHING THAT IS ASKED OF THEM THROUGH THE CUP.
UM, AND FOR THAT REASON, I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ONE, ONE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B, MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS IN SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? VICE CHAIR ROJAS.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION APPROVING THE RESOLUTE, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
22 DASH ZERO THREE, BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE AND JP FOUR 20 LLC FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 5 36 WEST MOUNTAIN VIEW AVENUE, SUITE B AS PER ATTACHMENT A, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, THE MOTION.
CAN I GET A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? VICE-CHAIR ROJAS.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR AT 1 7 2 1 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
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HI, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.I'M A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR SHRINE GROUP.
WE ARE THE APPLICANT HERE AT A SHRINE.
UM, I'VE ALSO BROUGHT MY COLLEAGUE FRANK SANCHEZ AS WELL.
HE'S DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE AS WELL.
AND HE'S WORN MANY HATS FOR SHRINE FROM, UH, OUR FIRST DIRECTOR OF HR TO A, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS LEAD ON A LOT OF OUR OPERATIONS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SHRINE GROUP.
UM, WE'RE BASED IN LOS ANGELES, WE'RE FULLY VERTICALLY INTEGRATED.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, WE, UM, WE HAVE CULTIVATION OPERATIONS, WE HAVE STANDARD STOREFRONT, RETAIL, OPERATIONS, AND DISTRIBUTION OPERATIONS.
AND WE ALSO DO A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE BEEN IN THE NON STORE FRONT RETAIL BUSINESS SINCE FEBRUARY, 2020, UM, OPERATING OUT OF LA, BUT IN DOING SO OPERATING OUT OF LA, WE DO SERVE AS PARTS OF ORANGE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY DELIVERY, UM, IN LA.
UM, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT LOCATION IN LA BARBARA.
UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO BE IN, YOU KNOW, W WHEN, WHEN LOOKING AT 1720S, LAHABRA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, 10 PARKING SPOTS THERE.
UM, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT NEAR ANY RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT SEEMS TO US, YOU KNOW, CHECK ALL THE BOXES AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, IT HAS A GOOD ROLL UP DOOR AS WELL FOR EASY, UM, UM, EASY DELIVERY.
SO, UM, UM, WE DO ABOUT TWO TO THREE DELIVERIES, UM, PER WEEK VIA SPRINTER FAN, UM, DURING OPERATIONAL HOURS, THEY'RE STAGGERED TIMES AS A SECURITY PROTOCOL.
AND, UM, UM, YEAH, AND, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST LIKE THE DELIVERY OF BUSINESS COMPARED TO WHAT, UM, UH, EVERYONE DOES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WE DO IT IN, UM, WE USE THE ICE CREAM TRUCK MODEL, SO WE SEND DRIVERS OUT ONCE OR TWICE, UM, DURING THEIR SHIFT, WE LOAD THEM UP AND THEN THEY DON'T COME BACK FOR EVERY ORDER.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE DISPATCH MODEL KIND OF LIKE DOMINO'S OR, UM, THE PIZZA TRUCK MODEL, IT'S EITHER PIZZA TRUCK OR LIKE ICE CREAM TRUCK, WHICH ISN'T, ISN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST ACRONYMS FOR, FOR CANNABIS, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S HOW WE DO IT.
IT'S IT HELPS US, UM, JUST KEEP FUEL COSTS AND OVERHEAD DOWN.
UM, OUR SKI BASE IS A LITTLE LIMITED WHEN WE DO THAT, BUT IT'S, UM, UM, BUT IT JUST, IT, IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND WE'RE NOT SENDING DRIVERS BACK AND FORTH TO OUR DEPOTS.
UH, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, OH, SO, SO, SO, SO THEY HAVE LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A SECURE ALMOST LIKE, HAVE YOU SEEN LIKE THE PELICAN BOXES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SECURE.
UM, IT HAS CODES, UM, AND THEN, UM, W UH, FRANK, HOW EXACTLY IT IS.
UM, THE WAY THAT THE TRUCKS ARE LOADED IS THEY'RE LOADED IN THE MORNING INTO DIFFERENT BOXES.
UM, PER STATE COMPLIANCE ARE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER DAY.
SO WE WILL PRETTY MUCH BE RIGHT UNDER THAT LIMIT, AND WE WILL DEPLOY THEM TO CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.
SO, UM, CONSIDERING ORANGE COUNTY, WE WOULD WANT TO PRETTY MUCH DEPLOY THEM TO DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND THE ACTUAL DRIVERS THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY IN THE HARBOR WOULD BE VERY LIMITED.
UH, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR MARKET, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GO FURTHER SOUTH, I GUESS, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M PICTURING IS.
AND JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR MODEL AND BEING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE JUST ORDERED A PIZZA, COME BACK, GET THE PIZZA, TAKE IT OUT, UH, YOUR MODEL, YOU PAINTED THAT DIFFERENTLY.
SO, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE A HELPFUL QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND, MAYBE ARE THESE ORDERS GETTING FILLED LIKE VERY, VERY QUICKLY? SO WHAT I'M PICTURING IS YOUR ICE CREAM TRUCK.
YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR DELIVERY DRIVER IS OUT MAKING DELIVERIES, BUT HE'S GETTING A NOTIFICATION OF A DELIVERY IN REAL TIME.
AND THEN HE'S ABLE TO, OH, I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.
I STILL HAVE ENOUGH MERCHANDISE HERE TO FULFILL THAT ORDER.
I CAN HEAD AND FULFILL THAT ORDER NOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THIS NON STOREFRONT.
SO WHEN DO THEY GO IN THE MEANTIME, UM, DEPENDING ON THE CITY, WE'LL DEPLOY THEM AND HAVE LIKE SAFE AREAS TO HAVE THEM KIND OF HANG OUT AT.
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN LIKE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND THEY WILL JUST BE THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND WAITING
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FOR THAT CALL.UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE WE DETERMINED THAT ESSENTIALLY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE A DELIVERY.
UM, BEFORE THE CUTOFF TIME THEY ALL STARTED COMING BACK TO THAT.
I'VE HEARD PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, THESE ORDERS SCANNED IN AND KIND OF TRACKED AND CORRECT, ALWAYS KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MY ORDER.
UM, WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE EXPLAINING THIS MODEL THAT WOULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IT, WE WOULD STILL FOLLOW THE METRIC SYSTEM, UH, THROUGH EVERYTHING.
AND OUR OPERATORS BACK AT THE FACILITY WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH DETERMINING WHAT FROM THE BOX IS GOING TO GO INTO THIS PACKAGE.
SO NO MATTER WHAT EVERYTHING IS STILL TRACED.
UM, SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON WE REALIZE THAT WE NEED TO RECALL A PRODUCT WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHO THAT WAS DELIVERED TO WHEN, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK 10 TIMES BETTER THAN LIKE THE NORMAL RETAIL, UH, MODEL THAT'S OUT NOW, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WATCH THE NEWS, YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT'S GETTING RECALLED WHILE HERE WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE LEFT IT AND WE CAN GO BACK AND GRAB THAT IF NEEDED.
AND YOU GUYS ARE OPERATING CURRENTLY IN DOWNTOWN LA, CORRECT? ANDREW RUPA VALLEY AND HER RUPA VALLEY.
AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN OPERATING IN BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS? UH, SINCE FEBRUARY, 2020 IN LA.
AND JURUPA VALLEY WAS THE SUMMER OF 2021.
SO ABOUT A YEAR, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.
AND YOU HEARD THE VALLEY AND, YOU KNOW, IN THAT MODEL, I'M SURE IF YOU SAW ANY SECURITY PROBLEMS OR ANY, YOU KNOW, FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ADJUSTED.
UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY TH THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR LA MODEL, THERE HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE DETERMINED AS LIKE BLACKED OUT NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR DRIVERS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIMITED TO THAT FROM OUR DELIVERY AREA.
SO IF SOMEONE ORDERS AND PRODUCTS IN THAT AREA, WE'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE CAN'T DELIVER TO GOT IT.
SO IS THAT LEGAL FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR DRIVERS? I THINK, UM, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO BE DELIVERED TO, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE.
I JUST THERE'S GREEN LINING RIGHT THERE, I THINK.
SO ON AN AVERAGE DAY, SINCE YOU'RE SETTING OUT YOUR ICE CREAM DRIVERS OR ICE CREAM TRUCKS, HOW SUCH A BAD METAPHOR IS SUCH A HORRIBLE METAPHOR.
UM, SO HOW MANY CARS DO YOU ACTUALLY SEE COMING TO THE FACILITY ON IT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY WE HEARD THAT OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERY DELIVERY TRIGGERS A CAR TRIP.
SO HOW MANY CAR TRIPS DO YOU SEE ON AVERAGE COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS FACILITY ON AVERAGE? SO OUR MODEL HAS MORE EMPLOYEES THAN THE OTHERS THAT WERE LISTED FOR PROPOSING 45 POSSIBLE EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE DEPLOYING OVER THOSE 45.
YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING FROM AS EARLY AS EIGHT TO 10.
SO NOT EVERYONE'S WORKING AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND WE WOULD NEED ABOUT 10 OF THOSE TO BE WORKING THE ACTUAL FACILITY, TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUT THE BOXES TOGETHER FOR OUR DRIVERS.
UM, SO AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE COULD EASILY HAVE 10 TO 15 CARS OUT ON THE ROAD, BUT 10 ARE STATIONARY AT THE FACILITY.
AND THEN THE OTHERS BASICALLY ARE JUST EITHER COMING IN OR OUT, DEPENDING ON YOUR ORDERS.
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE 45 PEOPLE IN THIS PLACE AT ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR 45 EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, UM, WE, WE TEND TO NOT LIKE TO HAVE LIKE OUR DRIVERS THEN GO INTO THE OFFICE OR WHATEVER.
SO OUR DRIVERS TEND TO BE DRIVERS THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, AND THAT JUST KEEPS THINGS VERY CLEAR, ESPECIALLY FOR SAFETY MEASURES DOWN THE LINE.
WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO KIND OF BE WORKING IN CAHOOTS WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SAFETY MEASURES THAT WE APPLY FROM TIME AND TIME.
AGAIN, WE'LL CHANGE THINGS UP JUST TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING OUR TEAM WHILE ON POINT.
ARE YOU OPERATING ANY BUSINESS AT THAT LOCATION AT THIS TIME? NO.
UM, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT I KNOW EARLIER FROM A DIFFERENT GROUP, WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TO 10 DELIVERIES, INCOMING DELIVERIES A WEEK.
I FEEL LIKE I HEARD YOU SAY TWO TO THREE A WEEK IS WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE.
DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING HERE AT THIS, AT THIS DEPOT.
I MEAN, IT EBBS AND FLOWS, I THINK, WITH, WITH PRODUCT DEMAND, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT THE AVERAGE.
WE BE BEYOND THAT, HAVING A WAREHOUSE IN DOWNTOWN LA, WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER ALL OUR THIRD-PARTY PRODUCT DIRECTLY THERE.
SO THE PRODUCT THAT ACTUALLY GETS DELIVERED TO OUR DEPOT HERE WOULD BE ONE DELIVERY THAT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THERE.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY SEE 10 DIFFERENT VENDORS.
IT'S ONLY ONE TRUCK THAT COMES FROM US.
UM, IT JUST KEEPS OUR OVERHEAD LOW.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT, IT'S A SAFETY MEASURE.
UM, SO AS CYRUS STATED EVERY WEEK, WE WILL HAVE THOSE MANY DELIVERIES, BUT THE TIMES WILL CHANGE FROM TIME
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TO TIME.AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR SECURITY TEAM WORKS WITH OUR DELIVERY TEAM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T A TEAM THAT'S WAITING FOR THAT TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, THREE O'CLOCK DELIVERY.
UM, SO YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN WE'RE COMING EXCEPT OUR TEAM DOES.
AND FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE A DOWNTOWN LOCATION, PROBABLY SERVICES AREAS NEAR DOWNTOWN AND DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE.
THEN THIS LOCATION WOULD SERVICE EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
AND THEN JUST BEYOND THAT, OUR DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN DOWNTOWN SERVICES, OUR RETAIL, OUR REGULAR RETAIL FRONT STORES AS WELL.
AND OUR FURTHEST SOUTH STORE IS IN VISTA, WHICH IS SAN DIEGO.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THEM.
ANYBODY ELSE? WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? OKAY.
NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION FOR ITEM FOUR AT 1 7 21 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A COMMISSIONERS OR ITCH NOTHING, COMMISSIONER BERNIER.
UM, MY ONLY CON I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, YOUR, YOUR, UM, MODEL IS INTERESTING.
UM, THEY STATIONED AMBULANCES ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, FOR STUFF LIKE SOCIAL.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU USE THAT.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU USE THAT MODEL.
AND THE ONLY THING I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER IF IT GETS APPROVED TONIGHT IS THE SCHOOL THERE.
THE KIDS HANG OUT IN THAT AREA, THE KIDS, WHEN THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE IN THAT AREA AND THEY HANG OUT AND A LOT OF PARENTS, OUR DAUGHTER WENT TO SONORA.
KIDS ARE THERE ALL THE TIME FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF AND FOR LUNCH.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO MAKE YOU AWARE THEY WILL BE IN THAT.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY AWARE.
AND THERE, FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE IS ANY LIKE SMELL ISSUE, WE HAVE MITIGATION FACTORS THAT WE'VE USED AT OUR OTHER BUILDINGS, UM, THAT WE OPERATE THROUGH OUR FILTERS AND OUR, YEAH.
SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ISSUE, WE WILL ESCALATE IT.
UM, BUT WE'RE VERY AWARE THAT THERE, AND THAT IS NOT OUR MARKET AT ALL.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST WATCH IT, MAKE SURE THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
YOU KNOW, I, UM, I THINK I'M ON THE RECORD AT MANY TIMES.
I'M NOT A BIG ADVOCATE FOR CANNABIS OF ALL THE LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.
THIS ONE CLEARLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME.
UM, I KNOW I'VE SUPPORTED TWO OF THEM AND I PLAN TO SUPPORT THIS ONE, BUT I JUST, I THINK I WANTED YOU GUYS TO HEAR, I THINK YOU PICKED A GOOD LOCATION.
UM, SOME OF THE OTHERS, I THINK HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTION MARKS AND, UM, I WISH YOU GUYS A SUCCESS AND A HAPPY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD JUST REITERATE, UM, COMMISSIONER MANLEY'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE CHOSEN LOCATION.
I, UM, I ALSO AGREE YOU OUT OF THE FOUR, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE THE BEST LOCATION THAT YOU WERE, THAT YOU WERE SELECTED VERY STRATEGIC AND VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, CLEARLY I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE BUSINESS AND THE CITY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER SEARCH, NONE COMMISSIONER BURNETT COMMISSIONER MANLY.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO THE CITY OF THE HOPPER APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH ONE THREE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1 7 2 1 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A MAKING THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? VICE CHAIR ROJAS.
COMMISSIONER BERNIER, NO MOTION PASSES.
GREG IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF AGREEMENT.
I MAKE A MOTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF THE HARBOR RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
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ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.22 DASH ZERO FOUR, BETWEEN THE CITY OF THE HOMBRE AND SHRINE LAHABRA LLC DBA BLAZE FOR A NON STOREFRONT RETAIL CANNABIS BUSINESS AT 1 7 2 1 EAST LAMBERT ROAD, SUITE A AS PER ATTACHMENT A, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE? VICE-CHAIR ROJAS.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? I JUST LIKE TO MAKE TWO QUICK COMMENTS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE SOME FACES THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE OR HERE.
I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE KEITH COLLINS.
WHO'S ONE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, AS WELL AS MICHAEL
AND WITHOUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE, I BELIEVE ON JUNE 12TH, 12TH.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU ADJOURNED TO THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY.
UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER
AND IT IS, UM, ONE THAT IT'S VERY WELL ATTENDED.
UM, SO PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDARS.
UM, THEY'RE HAVING THE PRE-SALE WRISTBANDS RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU BUY IN BEFORE JULY ONE, YOU GET A $2 OFF YOUR CHILD, THREE TO 12.
SO IT'D ONLY BE A COUPLE OF DOLLARS FOR THEM AND $5 FOR ADULTS.
UM, A GREAT FIREWORK SHOW ENTERTAINMENT AND GOOD FOOD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BERNIER.
UM, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE YOU THERE THEN.
OF COURSE WAS COVID A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE'LL BRING THE KIDS.
WHO'VE GONE TO EVERY SINGLE ONE.
SO WE'D GONE TO REALLY EVERY SINGLE ONE.
THIS WAS A FIRST ROUGH MEETING, I THINK WE'VE HAD SINCE IN AND OUT ON WHITTIER BOULEVARD.
SO, UM, I DON'T MEAN TO BE THE STICKLER, JUST BEEN HERE THE LONGEST AND I'VE GONE THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PROJECT AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.
SO YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T, YOU GUYS DON'T, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
I'VE BEEN A REAL STICKLER ABOUT IT.
I'VE APPROVED A LOT OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE HAVE.
I THINK IT JUST NEEDED TO BE MADE, BUT, UM, IT WAS HARD, BUT GOOD JOB GUYS.
COMMISSIONER MANLEY, MICHAEL, I HOPE YOU REALIZE THIS IS BEEN OUR SHORTEST MEETING WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME.
USUALLY WE'RE HERE MUCH LATER, SO HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE PLANS ON MONDAYS NOW.
AND, UH, KEITH, IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY BEING PATIENT.
THIS WAS MY FIRST MEETING THAT I CHAIRED.
UM, SO YEAH, IF WE WERE TO THROW ME IN THERE, I'M GOING TO ASK MANNY, HE'S GONNA OWE ME ONE.
BUT, UM, UH, WITH THAT SAID, I WILL SEE YOU AT THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO TAKE MY FAMILY.
UM, I'VE BEEN THERE ONCE AND THAT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD FIRST MOVED TO THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA.
UM, SO I'M EXCITED TO ATTEND AGAIN.
UM, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN AWHILE, SO I'M EXCITED.
UM, AND WITH THAT, UM, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED UNTIL MONDAY, JULY 25TH, 2022.