Nov 14, 2022 Planning Commission

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[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2022 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]

AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.

WILL THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN? COMMISSIONER MANLY IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO RECORD FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL RO? LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER ZURICH HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.

VICE CHAIR ROJAS.

HERE.

CHAIR MUNOS.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MANLEY.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER BEIER HERE.

NO BIG DEAL.

SORRY.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA.

PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 3 A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? WE WILL NOW CLOSE A PUBLIC, YEAH.

YEAH, FOR SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA.

NOT ON THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL NOW CLOSE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED, ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS A CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED.

FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

DO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? COMMISSIONER UH, BEIER NO, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MANLEY.

NO.

VICE ROJAS.

NO.

AND NONE FOR MYSELF.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? PLEASE SPEAK NOW.

HEARING NONE AT THIS TIME MAY HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S VICE CHAIR.

UH, ROJAS MAKING A MOTION.

AND DO HAVE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

EVERYONE, PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.

ACTUALLY, CHAIR YOU.

YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THE MINUTES, SO, OKAY.

SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

YEAH, SURE.

MICHELLE, CAN YOU ENTER YOUR VOTE PLEASE? OKAY.

MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO WITH COMMISSIONER OR CHAIRMAN'S, ABSTAINING.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULES FOR THIS EVENING.

THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.

THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MANNER AND TAKE ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTURE ROOM.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS AT THE TABLE OF THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.

THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON REPETITIVE,

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THE FIRST ITEM IS A DULY NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, 2022 DASH 1 31 TO SUBDIVIDED LAW, CREATE THREE PARCELS DESIGN REVIEW 22 DASH ZERO FOUR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN ADDITION TO ASSOCIATED PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CONDITION.

USE PERMIT 22 DASH 14 TO OPERATE AN AUTOMOBILE SERVICE FACILITY INVOLVING WHEEL TIRE INSTALLATION AND CONDITION.

USE PERMIT 22 DASH 15 TO OPERATE A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 7 0 1 2 7 7 7 SOUTH BEACH BOULEVARD AND 2060 WEST LAMBERT ROAD.

DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DO NOT.

UM, ALRIGHT.

STAFF WILL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT.

GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME'S DAVID LOPEZ, ASSOCIATE PLANNER HERE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE A VACANT LOT, UH, LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF BEACH BOULEVARD IN LAMBERT ROAD.

UM, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

PART OF THE PROJECT INVOLVES A TENTATIVE MAP TO COMBINE OR SO TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT TO CREATE FOUR PARCELS.

THE CURRENT LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL.

UM, THE PROPOSED USES ARE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY ON THE SOUTH AND WEST PROPERTY LINES.

THE TENTATIVE MAP INCLUDES THREE PARCELS.

THEY, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SUBDIVIDED VIA ASSESSOR'S PARCELS.

UM, THAT'S FOR TAX CONVEYANCE PURPOSES.

THE TENTATIVE MAP WILL ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDE AND ALLOW EACH LOT TO BE SOLD INDEPENDENTLY OR DEVELOPED, UH, INDEPENDENTLY.

AS SHOWN ON THE TABLE, IT'S PROVIDING THE AREA FOR EACH LOT.

UH, THE APN NUMBER AND THE PROPOSED USE, UH, LOTS TWO AND THREE, WHICH INCLUDE THE DEL TACO AND CARLS JR.

THOSE LOTS WILL NOT BE MODIFIED.

THERE AREN'T ANY PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE LOTS.

UH, PARCEL ONE, THAT IS THE PROPOSED PARCEL FOR REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE DUTCH BROTHERS AND AMERICA'S CHI.

THERE ARE EASEMENTS FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS BETWEEN PARCELS ONE AND TWO.

AND THERE'S ALSO A, UM, RECIPROCAL PARKING AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN PARCELS TWO AND THREE, WHICH WILL REMAIN AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

THERE'S ALSO A CONDITION FROM THE ENGINEERING DIVISION FOR A TWO FOOT DEDICATION ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD.

SO THIS WILL AFFECT, UM, ALL THREE PARCELS ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT DEDICATION IS FOR, UM, UH, STREET WIDENING, OR NOT STREET WIDENING, BUT FOR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE HAVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHOWING THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACTUAL BUILDING LOCATIONS, UH, FOR DUTCH BROTHERS AND UM, AMERICA'S TIRE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ZONING CODE COMPLIANCE TABLE.

SO THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE, AND THIS INCLUDES PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUILDING SETBACKS, UM, OPEN SPACE AND SEPARATION FROM ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

FOCUSING ON THE AMERICA'S TIRE, IT IS A 17,750 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

IT IS TWO LEVELS.

UH, THE FACILITY WILL PROVIDE SALES ATTI WHEELS INCLUDING CONSULTATION, TIRE ROTATION, TIRE BALANCE, TIRE INSTALLATION, FLAT TIRE AND TIRE PRESSURE SENSOR SERVICE.

SO THAT PART OF THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF AUTOMOTIVE.

UH, LIKE CHANGING OF OIL OR, UM, HEAVY UH, REPAIR SERVICES IS MAINLY WHEELS AND TIRES.

THE HOURS OPERATION ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND SATURDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND THE FACILITY WILL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.

UH, ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WILL BE SIX TO 10 EMPLOYEES.

THE FLOOR PLAN, IT'S SHOWING A FIRST LEVEL AND SECOND LEVEL, UM, IDENTIFIED IN THE RED OUTLINE ARE THE SERVICE BAYS.

IT DOES FEATURE THREE SERVICE BAYS, OR I'M SORRY, SALES BAYS.

AND IN THE GREEN ARE THE SERVICE BAYS.

SO THE WAY THAT THE BUSINESS OPERATE OPERATES IS WITHIN THE RED, THE THREE SALES BAYS CUSTOMERS VEHICLES CAN BE PULLED IN THERE, UM, FOR THEM TO LOOK AT WHEELS AND TIRES.

THE ACTUAL REMOVAL OF A WHEELS AND TIRES OR UM, REPAIR WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE GREEN BAYS AND THE OTHER THREE BAYS SHOWN TO THE, UM, LEFT.

SO THOSE BAYS DO HAVE ROLL UP DOORS FACING SOUTH THAT COULD BE CLOSED DURING THE TIME THAT THESE VEHICLES ARE BEING REPAIRED.

UH, THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS 8,825 SQUARE FEET, IS SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR TIRE STORAGE.

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IT'LL BE AN EMPLOYEE THERE TO GREET THEM AND, UM, DIRECT THEM TO WHICH BAYS THEY WOULD NEED TO GO.

SO THE CANOPY MEASURES 32 BY 46 FEET AND IT IS 12 FEET TALL.

IT WILL BE LOCATED SIX FEET FROM THE SOUTHERLY PROPER LINE.

AND THE MATERIALS ARE GONNA BE SIMILAR TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

SO THE CANOPY FEATURES FOUR CHECK-IN STATIONS.

THEY HAVE TIRE SENSORS OR TIRE PRESSURES, TIRE TREAD MONITORS AND AIR STATIONS.

UM, THERE IS A CONDITION THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED FOR, UM, AMERICA'S TIRE THAT REQUIRES COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

AND IT ALSO SPECIFIES THAT THE, UM, SERVICE BASE HAVE TO BE CLOSED DURING, UH, THE TIME THAT THE VEHICLES ARE BEING REPAIRED OR, OR TIRES ARE BEING INSTALLED TO TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY NOISE IMPACTS THE ELEVATIONS.

THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS ARE A PROTOTYPE AND IT INCLUDES ALUMINUM COMPOSITE EXTERIOR PANELS ON THE NORTHEAST AND WEST OR SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

IT IS A SPLIT FACE MASONRY BUILDING, UM, TO TRY TO CONTAIN ANY TYPE OF NOISE.

AND THE MAIN ENTRY IS ACTUALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OR FACING, UM, DEL TACO.

UH, DOES FEATURE A PARAPET WALL TO SCREEN ANY TYPE OF ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE AMERICA'S TIRE BRANDING COLORS.

NOW JUMPING OVER TO DUTCH BROTHERS, DUTCH BROTHERS IS PROPOSED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF PARCEL ONE NEAR LAMBERT ROAD.

IT IS A SINGLE STORY, 950 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

IT'S SPECIFICALLY A DRIVE THROUGH FUNCTION, BUT IT DOES HAVE A WALK UP COUNTER.

THE BUILDING IS SET 47 FEET FROM LAMBERT ROAD, UH, 54 FEET FROM THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE AND APPROXIMATELY 350 FEET FROM THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE.

UM, AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS, THERE WILL BE A SMALL OUTDOOR SEATING AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE RESTAURANT, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE EXIT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH.

AND ALL THE ORDERS ARE GONNA BE TAKING VIA HANDHELD DEVICES.

SO WE'LL NOW FEATURE IN A TYPE OF SPEAKER BOX OR ORDER MENU.

SO THERE'LL BE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES TAKING ORDERS VIA HANDHELD DEVICE.

AND THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED, IT HAS DUAL LANES TO ACCOMMODATE UP TO 21 VEHICLES WITHIN THE QUEUING AREA.

AND SO DUTCH BROS, IT SPECIALIZES IN PREPARING HANDCRAFTED DUTCH CLASSICS.

UH, HOT AND COLD BREW COFFEES.

UH, THESE ARE ALL NON-ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES INCLUDING DRINKS COCOA LEMONADE, SO IT IS TEAS AND SMOOTHIES.

UM, THEY WILL ALSO OFFER PREPACKAGED FOOD ITEMS, MUFFINS AND GRANOLA BARS, SO NO FOOD WILL BE COOKED ON SITE.

UM, OKAY, THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE PROPOSED FROM 5:00 AM TO 11:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND THEY WILL HAVE UP TO SEVEN EMPLOYEES.

UM, SO THIS WOULD BE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND ALSO WITHIN THE CUING LANES TO TAKE ORDERS AND PAYMENTS.

THE INTERIOR, IT'S, UH, INCLUDES THE RESTROOM AND IT'S MAINLY PREPARATION AREA FOR THE FOOD TO GO ITEMS. UM, SO THERE WILL NO, THEY WILL NOT BE ANY TYPE OF INTERIOR SEATING FOR CUSTOMERS.

AND THE ELEVATIONS, THEY'RE DESIGNED WITH THE VERTICAL METAL, UM, RIB SIDING, UM, USING SOME OF THE DUTCH BROTHERS CORPORATE COLORS, GRAY AND BLUE.

THERE IS A COVERED AREA NEAR THE WALKUP WINDOW, WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND IN ANTICIPATION OF THE TRAFFIC THAT MAY BE GENERATED, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED, AND IT SHOWS ADDITIONAL QUEUING LANES ON SITE TO BE ABLE TO CONTAIN, UM, VEHICLES.

SO AS SHOWN ON THE PLAN, IT WOULD BE THE GREEN AREAS WHERE VEHICLES CAN QUEUE AND THEY'LL BE EMPLOYEES ON SITE TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.

ONCE UM, THERE'S THE LINE MOVES FORWARD.

SO WITH THIS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT, UM, THE SITE CAN CONTAIN UP TO 33 VEHICLES.

SO THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED UH, DURING PEAK HOURS WHEN, UH, VEHICLES START SPILLING ONTO THE MAIN DRIVEWAY THAT GOES, UH, EAST, UH, WEST NORTH OF AMERICA'S TIRES.

AND IN FRONT OF YOU YOU HAVE COPIES OF

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SO WE ADDED LANGUAGE, UH, TO THE SEQ SECTION, UM, FOR BOTH RESOLUTIONS.

SO YOU HAVE THE, UH, RED LINE VERSION AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FINAL VERSION, UM, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU DAVID.

AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONER BERNER.

SO DAVID, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE ONE RESOLUTION IS TO APPROVE BOTH PROJECTS.

UH, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT COMBINES THE DESIGN REVIEW AND THE TWO CS, AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT APPROVES THE TENTATIVE MAP.

SO WE HAVE, UH, ONE RESOLUTION THAT COMBINES THREE ENTITLEMENTS AND THEN ONE RESOLUTION THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TO THE TENTATIVE MAP.

NO MORE QUESTIONS.

THAT'S IT.

COMMISSIONER MANLEY.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, DAVID, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THERE'S GONNA BE NO, UM, CREATION OF LIKE BLOCK WALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THOSE THREE PARCELS WILL ALL BE ABLE TO BE INTERCONNECTED? THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE PLANS, RIGHT? YES.

AS PART OF THE TIN MAP, UM, THERE WON'T BE ANY TYPE OF OBSTRUCTIONS BETWEEN THE LOTS.

SO IS THERE LIKE AN ADDITION OF LANDSCAPING THAT'S RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG THE, UM, THE EAST SIDE OF THE DUTCH BROTHERS, IS THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OR IS THAT LANDSCAPING THAT'S ALREADY THERE? THE PLANS ACTUALLY DO SHOW A, A FIVE FOOT 10 DIMENSION THAT IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN PARCELS OR BETWEEN THE CARLS JR.

AND THE DEL TACO.

DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT ON A SLIDE THAT I CAN JUST SEE? WHERE WOULD THAT BE? RIGHT HERE? SO ON THE SLIDE IT WOULD BE, UM, TO THE LEFT OF THE NOT A PART SIGN.

SO YOU HAVE A ROW OF TREES MM-HMM.

AND A, A GREEN AREA THAT'S FIVE FEET WIDE.

AND THAT'S PREEXISTING OR THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF MODIFIED TO LOOK LIKE THIS CUZ I KNOW THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING THERE.

IT, IT'S GONNA BE MODIFIED AS PART OF THE UM, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIREMENT.

SO WE, WE HAD A CONDITION THAT THE DEVELOPER PREPARE A PRECISE LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION PLAN.

AND IS THAT, LIKE, IS THERE A FIXED WALL THERE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE, IN THEORY, COULD YOU WALK IN BETWEEN THOSE TREES? CORRECT.

THERE'S NO BARRIER BETWEEN THOSE PARCELS.

SO TECHNICALLY SOMEONE COULD WALK BETWEEN THE, THE LOTS AND THEN WHEN YOU GO DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM, UM, GOING EAST TO WEST TO EAST, EAST TO WEST, UH, BETWEEN THE DEL TACO PARCEL NUMBER TWO AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP OF PARCEL NUMBER ONE IS, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, BARRIER THERE OR IS THAT JUST WIDE OPEN? IT'S WIDE OPEN AND THAT IS PART OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.

SO THAT HAS TO REMAIN FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC HAS TO REMAIN CLEAR WITH ANY OBSTRUCTIONS WITHOUT ANY OBSTRUCTIONS.

OKAY.

DAVID, DOES ANY PART OF THE PLANS INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF LIKE, GRADING TO, ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THERE IS KIND LIKE THAT SLOPE COMING DOWN FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE, THE PARCEL? IS THAT GONNA REMAIN OR IS THAT GONNA BE GRADED? YEAH, UM, THE PLANS DO SPECIFY THAT THE EXISTING WALL THAT'S FOUND NEAR THE WEST PROPERTY LINE IS GONNA BE PUSHED FURTHER WEST.

SO THE, THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO BE REGRADED AND A NEW RETAINING WALL CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE, THAT SIDE OF THE PARCEL.

DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT TO THE RESIDENCES THERE ON THE WEST SIDE? IT SHOULDN'T, SINCE THE RETAINING WALL IS ACTUALLY FOUND ON PARCEL ONE AND NOT NEAR THE TOP OF THE SLOPE WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY LIKE THAT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE QUEUE CAN HOLD AND, AND THE, THE PLANS SHOW THAT IF YOU COUNT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 21 CARS THERE THAT YOU INDICATED AND THEN THERE WAS ADDITIONAL KIND OF INGRESS ON THE WESTERN SIDE THERE WHERE LIKE NUMBERS TWO AND NINE ARE ON THIS SLIDE.

AND THEN RIGHT BELOW PARCEL TWO KIND OF GOING EAST TO WEST, THERE WAS KIND OF ADDITIONAL QUEUING SPACE.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF INDICATED THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE, RIGHT? YES.

UM, SO IT'D BE NORTH OF THE AMERICA'S TIRE AND THEN ALONG

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IS THAT THE LAST SLIDE YOU SHOWED? THAT ONE? THE ONE THAT, THAT ONE IS THAT, THAT ONE THOSE GREEN LINES THERE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THAT INDICATES, CORRECT.

YES.

AND DAVID, THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED EARLY ON MAYBE THE SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE THAT YOU HAD FOCUSING ON AMERICA'S TIRES JUST BEFORE THAT.

UH, ONE MORE.

ONE MORE.

YEAH.

SO ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER NUMBER NINE, AND THEN THERE'S THAT LINE THERE AND IT SAYS IN SMALL FONT, DO NOT ENTER.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH, THAT WAS PART OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

IN THE EVENT THAT TRAFFIC BUILDS UP NEAR LAMBERT ROAD VEHICLES WILL BE DIRECTED TO TRAVEL SOUTH AND EITHER WRAP AROUND WHERE THE NUMBER NINE IS TO GO OUT TOWARDS THE, UH, DRIVEWAY APPROACH ON BEACH BOULEVARD.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO, I GUESS I MIGHT BE CONFUSED CUZ THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBER NINES ON THIS PAGE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE YOU ANSWERED THIS SO I, FORGIVE ME.

SURE.

THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER WHERE IT SAYS DO NOT ENTER, I MEAN IS THERE ANYTHING THAT INDICATES THAT TO VEHICLES THAT ARE THERE? IS, IS THAT LINE INDICATING A WALL? WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? YEAH, UM, SO IT'S PART OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO NOT ALLOW VEHICLES TO GO NORTH, UM, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S ONLY GONNA BE A TWO-WAY, UM, DRIVE AISLE TO ALLOW VEHICLES TO GO SOUTH AND NOT NORTH.

SO IF I'M COMING OUT OF THAT CHECK-IN LANE, THOSE CARS ARE ORIENTED FACING EAST AND THEY DRIVE THROUGH THAT CHECK-IN LANE AND CONTINUE GOING EASTBOUND, THEY'RE GONNA RUN INTO THAT LINE THAT'S ON THE PLAN, AND THEN IT SAYS, DO NOT ENTER, THERE'S, OH, I GOT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA STOP THEM.

I GOTCHA.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

UH, NOW I I YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LINE THAT GOES NORTH, CORRECT? SOUTH? YEAH, RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING.

SO THE WAY THAT AMERICA'S TIRE, UM, WILL HAVE VEHICLES CIRCULATE THE CANOPY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, THAT'S GONNA BE THE MAIN, UM, CUSTOMER, UM, I GUESS EVALUATION STATION.

AND THEN ONCE THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO CUSTOMERS, WHAT THE VEHICLES WILL ACTUALLY BE DRIVEN INSIDE THE BUILDING.

UM, SO THAT LINE IS REPRESENTING IF A VEHICLE WERE TO COME SOUTH AND THEN TRY TO GO WHERE THAT CANOPY IS, UH, THEY'LL BE DIRECTED TO TURN AROUND SO IT'S NOT THE ANTICIPATED TRAFFIC FLOW OF THE, THE, THE CARS WILL WRAP AROUND THE BUILDING VERSUS TRYING TO GO, UM, SOUTH AND THEN EAST.

SO HOW WOULD THAT BE INDICATED? LIKE WITH SIGNAGE OR WITH WITH PAINT THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING AND MORE THAN LIKELY IT'LL BE SOME TYPE OF GRAPHIC ON THE ASPHALT.

OKAY.

AND THIS, LIKE, THIS SEEMS PRETTY NEW TO ME.

I'M FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH AMERICA'S TIRES.

I I'VE FREQUENT THE LOCATION IN PONY HILLS INDUSTRY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THAT OVER THERE.

UM, AND THIS ISN'T HOW THEY'RE SET UP THERE.

AND SO THIS MAY BE AN A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, DAVID.

SO IF IT IS, UM, I CAN HOLD OFF, BUT IF YOU DO KNOW THE ANSWER AND YOU COULD SHARE, UM, ONCE THE, YOU KNOW, A CUSTOMER REACHES THAT CHECK-IN LANE AND THEN LEAVES THAT CHECK-IN LANE, IS THAT VEHICLE DRIVEN BY THE CUSTOMER? IS THERE A HANDOFF THERE BETWEEN THE CUSTOMER AND AN EMPLOYEE? UM, I THINK WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT WHERE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A QUEUE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE, I'M SURE, SURE.

IN, IN PEAK HOURS OF OPERATION, BUT DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? UH, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

AND WE CAN, WE CAN HOLD OFF, WE CAN HOLD OFF ON THAT THEN.

UM, I DIDN'T HEAR OR SEE, UH, ANY INDICATION ON HOURS OF OPERATION FOR LIKE THE AIR CHECK, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SEE THE AIR CHECK LANE, I IMAGINE THAT'S AN AIR STATION WHERE AIR CAN BE REFILLED INTO TIRES.

THERE ARE THE HOURS OF THAT RESTRICTED TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR, UH, THE BUSINESS? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH, THERE'D BE FROM 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM UH, AND 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM SO THAT ANY TYPE OF WORK, UH, USE OF THE EQUIPMENT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR, UM, AMERICA'S TIRES.

OKAY.

AND THAT RIGHT, JUST RIGHT SOUTH OF THAT THERE'S LIKE, THAT'S THE SIX FOOT SETBACK TO PROPERTY LINE FOR THE RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH OF, OF THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN I THINK THIS IS THE LAST THING FOR NOW, YOU SAID THAT THE BAY DOORS WOULD BE CLOSED WHILE VEHICLES ARE BEING SERVICED, WAS THAT CORRECT? YES.

UM, THERE'S A CONDITION

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SO THOSE WOULD BE THE THREE, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE.

ON THE WEST SIDE, THOSE WOULD BE KEPT CLOSED WHEN THE VEHICLES ARE BEING WORKED ON.

ONCE THE CUSTOMER'S VEHICLES ARE DONE, THOSE OPEN AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DRIVE OUT THE BUILDING.

AND THOSE ARROWS INDICATE LIKE THOSE VEHICLES ENTERING THE SERVICE LANES ARE ONLY COMING IN FROM THE NORTH SIDE? CORRECT.

AND THEY'RE EXITING THE SOUTH SIDE.

YES.

AND THEN THERE'S THAT ONE WAY TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO FORCE THEM TO THEN GO TO THE EAST YES.

OFF TO BEACH BOULEVARD AND THEN LOOP AROUND THE BUILDING AND THEN EXIT BACK ONTO BEACH BOULEVARD? THAT'S CORRECT.

NOW THEY COULD, IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY COULD MAKE THEIR WAY ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO LAMBERT.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION.

YES.

I THINK MY EYES WERE TELLING ME THEY, THEY MAY RUN INTO SOME INGRESS Q LINES FOR THE COFFEE SHOP.

UM, BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION CAN DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

UM, I THINK, I THINK I'M GOOD FOR NOW, DAVID.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, VICE , ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, I THINK I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW MY COLLEAGUE.

UM, REGARDING THAT AIR STATION, IS THERE GONNA BE A WALL, SOME ADDITIONAL WALL? SO THERE'S ON THAT, ON THAT SOUTH SIDE, YOU SEE THESE LITTLE SMALL CIRCLES AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A, A LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST IF IT'S OPEN OR IS THAT A WALL AS PART OF THEIR AIR STATION? SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENCE RETAINING WALL, AND THEN IS THERE GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL WALL AS PART OF THEIR, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL THIS CANOPY BUILDING BUILDING? YES.

SO THE PROJECT APPLICANT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE CIRCLES NEAR THE CANOPY UHHUH.

THOSE WILL BE TREES TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT CORRECT.

UH, IMPROVEMENT UHHUH.

AND THERE'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES, UH, A SIX FOOT HIGH MASONRY WALL WHEN ADJACENT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

OKAY.

UM, SO IF THAT WALL THAT'S EXISTING IS NOT AT THAT LEVEL, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF SIX FEET.

SO IF THE RESIDENCE WALL CURRENTLY IS NOT SIX FEET, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO RAISE THAT TO SIX FEET? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS IN ADDITION TO THAT RESIDENCE WALL, SO THEN YOU GOT THE RESIDENCE WALL, I SEE THAT, AND THEN YOU SEE TREES, RIGHT? ALL THE LITTLE CIRCLES.

NOW NEXT TO THAT, I GUESS NORTH OF THAT, IS THAT A WALL OR IS THAT OPEN? THAT WOULD BE OPEN, JUST OPEN THE LANDSCAPE AREA.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING JUST BECAUSE OF THE AIR AND I KNOW HOW LOUD THOSE AIR THINGS ARE, SO, UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE TREES TRYING TO BLOCK THAT THERE.

UM, AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING, I KNOW YOU STATED THAT THE, I GUESS THOSE BAY DOORS WILL BE CLOSED DURING SERVICE.

SO IN ESSENCE THESE BAY DOORS ARE GONNA BE OPENING AND CLOSING ALL DAY LONG? YES.

DURING THE, DON'T MAKE ANY NOISE AS THEY'RE OPENING AND CLOSING ALL DAY LONG.

UM, WE DID ADD A CONDITION THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE NOISE COMPLAINTS.

OKAY.

THE CONDITION SPECIFIES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO PREPARE A NOISE ANALYSIS BY A QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GONNA LOOK AT THE NOISE SOURCES.

OKAY.

IT'S GONNA ALSO LOOK AT THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVELS WITHIN THE GENERAL VICINITY AND THEN RECOMMEND ANY TYPE OF MITIGATION MEASURES.

UM, THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS GONNA BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THOSE.

SO MAYBE IT'S, UH, USING A DIFFERENT MATERIAL FOR THE BAY DOORS TO LIMIT NOISE.

UM, IT, IT, GOT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND I GUESS THERE'S, IT'S DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN SERVICE LANES AND THEN SALES LANES, BUT REALLY I SEE CARS AND ALL OF THE LANES.

SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SERVICE AND SALES? OR IS THAT A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? I THINK THE APPLICANT CAN, YES.

OKAY.

I'LL ASK THEM THAT QUESTION.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST KIND OF GOING RIGHT, LOOPING AROUND, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THE AMERICA'S TIRE BUILDING AND JUST AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD TECHNICALLY LOOP AROUND AND EITHER EXIT BEACH OR THEY COULD GO LEFT AND EITHER USE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE FAST FOODS OR CONTINUE EAST AND TRY TO EXIT THAT WAY.

SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT LITTLE CORNER THERE MIGHT BE DURING PEAK HOURS MIGHT CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF STRESS, UM, FOR A LACK OF BETTER TERM.

SO I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT A GOOD RESOLUTION OR MAYBE SOME OTHER TYPE OF TRAFFIC.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST CONES OR PE I, I JUST A LITTLE AREA OF CONCERN JUST DURING PEAK TIME.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO KIND OF SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CANOPY FOR THE AMERICA'S TIRES, THE AIR CHECK LANE, IS THAT FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT OR ARE THEY ONLY CHECKING THE AIR OR ARE THEY ALSO FILLING IT? UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'LL BE CHECKING AND FILLING IF THE TIRE'S LOW.

OKAY.

SO THEN THE AIR COMPRESSOR WOULD BE WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE SOMEWHERE RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA LIKE FILL IT UP IN CASE THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THE TIRE'S LOW, LIKE THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BUILDING TO FILL IT UP?

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ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, REGARDING CIRCULATION, UM, DAVID, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE, THE BACKUP QUEUING OR THE OVERFLOW, I GUESS, SO THE DASH LINE.

UM, I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE CONNECTING DRIVE AISLE FOR THE EXISTING DEL TACO AND THE CARLS JR.

IS THERE GONNA BE, LIKE, IS THE CONCRETE GONNA HAVE SOME TYPE OF PAVING OR, OR SOMETHING TO SHOW THAT IN CASE IT DOES OVERFLOW MORE SO LIKE IN THE MORNING THAT THEY'RE NOT IMPEDING ONTO THAT DRIVE AISLE? YES.

UM, THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN INCLUDED A, A SIGNING PLAN.

IT INCLUDES WHERE THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY PUT SIGNS OKAY.

TO TRY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.

SO THERE IS, UH, A SIGNING PLAN AS PART OF THIS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND, UH, GOING BACK TO THE JUST HIRE, UM, IS THAT FACILITY GONNA BE A PERMITTED LIKE TIRE RECYCLING CENTER FOR THE TIRES PART OF THE CAL RECYCLE PROGRAM? AND PROBABLY THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER THAT? YEAH, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER MANLEY HAD A FOLLOW UP.

YEAH.

DAVID, REGARDING, UM, I GUESS THIS COMES FROM THE BAY DOORS AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVITY TO NOISE MITIGATION AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL TIRE BUSINESSES AND OPERATION IN THIS CITY.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE IF ANY OF THOSE KIND OF HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, BAY DOORS? I'M THINKING OF JUST ON MY WAY HERE WAS RIGHT BY, I THINK IT'S SALINAS, UM, AND THEY'RE WIDE OPEN, UM, AND RESIDENCE IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO MAYBE THIS IS A TIMING THING.

MAYBE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN, WHEN WE GET THE PROJECT HANDED TO US, AND I KNOW THINGS CAN CHANGE OVER TIME.

SO ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING IN THIS CITY THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS WITH THAT SAME TYPE OF REQUIREMENT? THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES TO MIND WOULD BE THE FIRESTONE THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH ON BEACH BOULEVARD.

UM, THAT'S THE ONLY STANDALONE BUILDING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE OPERATIONAL NATURE OF AMERICA'S TIRE.

UM, ST.

LENAS OFFERS A LOT MORE VARIETY OF, UH, CUSTOMIZATION WHEELS AND TIRES, LIFTS, SUSPENSION.

THIS FACILITY IS MAINLY WHEELS AND TIRES.

UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE IN OPERATIONAL NATURE BETWEEN THE, THE TIRE FACILITIES.

DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW IF THE FIRESTONE, UH, BUSINESS HAS THAT, IS IT THAT SAME REQUIREMENT FOR THEM? I, I CAN LOOK IT UP, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I, I DON'T RECALL.

NOT SURE.

OKAY.

I MAY HAVE ONE MORE.

HOLD ON.

UH, UM, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE ON.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS.

WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WILL HEAR FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, FOLLOWED BY ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION IF THEY ARE PRESENT AND WISH TO DO SO? GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MY NAME IS MARK SHINDA, UH, MY COMPANY SPECIFIC RETAIL PARTNERS.

AND FOR THE RECORD, MY ADDRESS IS 43 50 ON CARMEN AVENUE, SUITE 200 NEWPORT BEACH, CALIFORNIA 92,660.

WE ARE THE OWNERS IN ESCROW ON THE PROPERTY THAT SURROUNDS THE, UH, DEL TACO AND, AND THE CARLS JR.

UM, I'M GONNA KEEP MY REMARKS PRETTY SHORT THIS EVENING, AS STAFF HAS PRESENTED A VERY CLEAR AND COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PRESENTATION.

DO YOU WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENT EFFORTS IN MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD? AND I, ESPECIALLY A SHOUT OUT TO DAVID LOPEZ, WHO AT, AT TIMES I THINK I'VE CALLED, SHALL WE SAY, TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY, AND HE IS BEEN VERY PATIENT.

SO DAVID, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THIS IS AN INFO PROJECT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, FIELD PROJECTS ARE CHALLENGING, THE CHALLENGING IN THE SENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY, THE EXISTING CSUN RS, THE EXCLUSIVES THAT ARE IN THE LEASES, UM, ACCESS POINTS.

UH, AND IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.

AND, UH, THIS SITE, AS YOU ARE AWARE, HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY YEARS AND IT'S REALLY BEEN VACANT, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SMALL POOL OF VIABLE COMPATIBLE USES THAT ARE ABLE TO ADHERE TO THESE RESTRICTIONS, YET AT THE SAME TIME COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS.

BUT I THINK AFTER MUCH FINE TUNING AND SCALING BACK OUR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, I'M

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IT SHOULD ALSO SAY OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF WEEKS WE HAVE, UM, UH, VISITED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY THE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE, UH, TO OUR PROJECT.

WE HAVE KNOCKED ON DOORS AND MET A LOT OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE ON MARIPOSA AND, UH, ELOF.

AND, UH, REALLY WHY MOST PEOPLE SUPPORTED THE, THE PROPOSAL.

I REMEMBER ONE PERSON SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A COFFEE DRINKER.

I WAS HOPING TO HAVE A RESTAURANT IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S THERE.

AND I, I, I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANOTHER RESTAURANT.

UH, THE EXCLUSIVES THAT ARE IN THE CARL'S JUNIOR AND THE DEL TACO REALLY PRECLUDE US FROM DOING ANYTHING ELSE.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UH, DUTCH BROTHERS AS A, UH, AS A RETAILER AND, AND AMERICA'S TIRE.

UM, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS AND I'LL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, UH, OF HOW THESE TWO RETAILERS ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOUR TYPICAL COFFEE SHOP DRIVE THROUGH OR YOUR TYPICAL TIRE CENTER.

UM, I THINK DAVID HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT DUTCH BROTHERS DOES NOT HAVE ANY OUTSIDE SPEAKERS.

PHONES.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HEARING, UH, CAN I TAKE YOUR ORDER? AND WHAT WAS THAT? IT'S JUST, IT'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS A DEVICE THAT WILL TAKE YOUR ORDER AND THEY'LL ALWAYS BE OUT THERE.

UM, THEY DON'T COOK, THEY DON'T MAKE ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST COFFEE, ENERGY DRINKS.

THERE'S NO SMELL, UH, OTHER THAN HOPEFULLY COFFEE, IF YOU LIKE.

COFFEE .

UM, WITH RESPECT TO AMERICA'S TIRE, ALL OF THEIR WORK AS UH, STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID, WILL BE CONTAINED INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TIRES SITTING OUTSIDE, AS YOU SEE IN MANY TIRE COMPANIES.

WHEN WE TALKED TO A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS, SEVERAL HAVE MENTIONED SALINAS OR AMERICA'S TIRE DEPOT AND LA MARADA.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, AMERICA'S TIRE IS A, UH, FIRST CLASS OPERATION, AS HE ALREADY SAID, DAVID, THAT THEY, THEY OPERATE FROM EIGHT TO SIX ON MONDAYS THROUGH FRIDAYS, EIGHT TO FIVE ON SATURDAY, AND THEY CLOSE ON SUNDAY.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH COMPANIES HERE TONIGHT.

AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU, MARK.

ONE QUICK QUESTION AS A FOLLOW UP.

YOU'RE THE DEVELOPER, CORRECT? I AM THE DEVELOPER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, EACH THE DUTCH BROTHERS AND THE AMERICAN TIRES WILL HAVE RESPECTIVE OPERATORS? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND ARE THEY FRANCHISEE OR ARE THEY CORPORATE? UM, AMERICAN TIRES CORPORATE, UM, UM, DUTCH BROTHERS IS A CORPORATE STORE.

WILL THEY HAVE A FRANCHISEE RUNNING IT? MOST MCDONALD'S HAVE FRANCHISEES.

EVERYBODY HAS FRANCHISEES, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT IT'S JUST, THEY'RE BOTH CORPORATE STORES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I WROTE DOWN WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, THE AIR.

THE COMPRESSOR IS IN THE BUILDING, SO YOU WON'T GET THE LOUD NOISE.

SO WHERE THE CANOPY'S AT, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA TURN, THERE'S NO COMPRESSOR, THEY'RE NOT GONNA FILL IT.

THE COMPRESSOR IS, WELL, THEY'LL FILL IT, BUT THE ACTUAL COMPRESSOR IS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

OH, OKAY.

LIKE UNDERGROUND OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN? CAUSE THE STRUCTURES JUST A CANOPY, RIGHT? WELL, NO, IT'S ACTUALLY INSIDE THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S, OH, IT'S JUST GONNA LIKE THE OKAY.

IT'S GONNA RUN.

THE ACTUAL COMPRESSOR IS ACTUALLY IN THE, I WOULD SAY THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE AMERICA'S TIRE, RIGHT THERE IN THE LITTLE ROOM THERE.

SEE IT SAYS COMPRESSOR TO THE BOTTOM LEFT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE IT IS.

SO IN, I GUESS, UNDERGROUND OR, OR SOMEHOW THAT HOSE IS GETTING FROM THE COMPRESSOR ROOM TO THE CANOPY? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO ALL YOU SEE AT THE CANOPY IS JUST THAT HOSE, THE HOSE, AND, AND SO THE NO NOISE WOULD BE WHATEVER'S COMING JUST FROM THAT IN THE BUILDING HOSE? RIGHT? EXACTLY.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'D BE A LITTLE BIT OF NOISE COMING FROM THE HOSE INTO THE TIRE WHERE OKAY.

MINIMAL, I WOULD HOPE, I WOULD THINK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT REGARDING THAT TIRE RECYCLING PERMIT THROUGH CAL, UH, RECYCLE, YOU KNOW, I, ARE THEY GONNA BE APPLYING FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT.

OKAY.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT.

REGARDING THE GO AHEAD.

REGARDING THE BAY DOORS AND THE OPENING AND CLOSING, IS THAT A STANDARD OPERATIONAL THING FOR TIRE? NO, THIS IS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UH, THAT, UM, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IN POINTEE HILLS, THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROTOTYPE.

OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST ONES HERE IN CALIFORNIA, AND I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE ROLLING THEM OUT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

SO YOU GUYS ARE THE LUCKY ONES THAT GET TO GET TO THE FIRST PROTOTYPE.

UM, SO YES, THEY WILL BE, THEY WILL BE OPENING UP THE SERVICE DOORS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH NOISE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA KEEP THEM CLOSED,

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AND WHAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THE SERVICE AND THE SALES SIDE? BECAUSE, WELL, THE SALES SIDE, AS DAVID MENTIONED, WHEN, WHEN A CUSTOMER COMES OFF BEACH, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GO AROUND THE BUILDING TOWARD THE END, THEY GO INTO THAT CANOPY AND THEY WILL BE MET BY A, UH, SALESPERSON.

IT'S EITHER THEY, EXCUSE ME, EITHER THEY, UM, GET THEIR TIRES CHECKED, OR THEY WANT AN ESTIMATE ON NEW TIRES OR NEW WHEELS.

SO IF THEY GET THEIR AIRS CHECKED, THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY AND THEY'RE DONE.

UM, THE FIRST THREE BAYS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT ARE OUTLINED IN RED, THOSE ARE THESE SALES BAYS WHERE YES, I WANT SOME TIRES.

SO THE CUSTOMER ACTUALLY DRIVES THOSE IN AND THEY STAY IN THERE WITH THE SERVICE PORTION, AND THEY WRITE THE ESTIMATE.

AND AFTER THAT, THEY LEAVE THE CUSTOMER LEAVES, AND THEN THE, THE, UH, EMPLOYEE TAKES IT FROM THERE, THEY DRIVE IT OUT, AND THEN THEY DRIVE IT INTO THE, UM, SERVICE BAY, AND THEY DRIVE IT OUT OF THE SERVICE BAY.

SO THE CUSTOMER, THE ONLY TIME THEY GET TO DRIVE IT IS DRIVE IN.

THOSE SERVICE BAYS GET THEIR ESTIMATE AND THEY, THEY'RE DONE.

THEY EITHER SIT IN THE, IN THE LOBBY OR THEY GET PICKED UP.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

OKAY.

NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR THAT? NOT RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL NOW CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HEAR EVERYONE THAT'S IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME UP, HAVE YOUR, UH, CARD, UH, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? DO YOU, YOU HAVE ANYONE? VERONICA? I HAVE A PENCIL SON.

YOU'RE GOOD FOR INVITING, PLEASE.

MY NAME'S ADAM SPIROW.

MM-HMM.

.

MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN 50 MARIPOSA.

UH, I'M GROUND ZERO, MEANING IF YOU WERE TO LOOK UP MY ADDRESS AND LOOK THROUGH MY BACKYARD AND MY BALCONY, I, I'M DIRECTLY LINED WITH THAT LOT.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE WE COULDN'T ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I'M STILL GONNA ASK, BUT, UH, THE, THE RETAINING WALL, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DEMOLISH THAT AND THEN PUT ANOTHER ONE.

OR IF IT'S ABOVE SIX FEET, THEY'RE GONNA SIX OR HIGHER, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE IT.

UH, YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAD, I'M, UM, YOU KNOW, CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT.

AND WHEN I SAY CAUTIOUSLY NOISE WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN.

ANOTHER CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC COMING OFF THE COFFEE SHOP.

IT WAS GONNA WRAP DOWN MARIPOSA IN THE MORNING.

IT, IT, I BELIEVE HE ADDRESSED THAT.

UH, I DIDN'T BRING MY GLASSES SO SITTING THERE, I COULDN'T REALLY SEE THE TRAFFIC.

IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GONNA FLOW THROUGH BEACH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL VERIFY THAT.

BUT, UH, ANY OPPORTUNITY BRINGS SOME JOBS TO LAJA.

I SUPPORT.

I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE ONE YEAR.

I CAME FROM WHITTIER, SO, UH, I'LL END IT.

I'LL END IT THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, ADAM.

THANK YOU.

I CAN ADDRESS THAT NOW.

UH, JUST HOLD ON, LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYONE AND THEN I'LL HAVE STAFF, UH, RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT ARISE.

ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? GOTCHA.

OKAY.

SCENE, NONE.

UH, WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

UH, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND IF YOU GUYS DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

STAFF, UH, DAVID, THE PROJECT PLANNER IS TAKING NOTES AND AT THE END, UH, WE'LL ADDRESS ANY THAT, THAT MIGHT COME UP.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UH, MY NAME IS MEDI MIFA FOR RECORD.

I LIVE TWO AT 2021 ALUM CROSS CIRCLE IN LAHABRA.

UH, I TEACH FOR LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE AND CAUSE OF MY HEALTH CONDITION, UM, I'VE BEEN FORCED TO TEACH ONLINE AND I'M RIGHT BEHIND THIS, UH, BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE.

AND I, UH, USE ZOOM, UH, EVERY DAY, UH, TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY STUDENTS.

AND I RECORD MY LECTURES.

AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE, THE NOISE POLLUTION.

UH, AND, UH, I SOMETIMES I'M, I'M, I'M HEARING, UH, THE TRAFFIC AND, UH, I HAVE TO CLOSE ALL THE WINDOWS TO, UH, MINIMIZE THE, UH, THE NOISE THAT, UH, WOULD INTERFERE WITH MY RECORDING.

BUT THIS, UH, OPERATION, I THINK IS GONNA BE INTERFERING TREMENDOUSLY WITH MY, UH, RECORDING, UH, PROCESS.

AND I DO, UH, UH, MY STUDENTS, I RELY ON, UH, QUALITY, UH, RECORDING TO REVIEW THE LECTURES.

AND SOMETIMES I DON'T ATTEND MY LECTURES, AND THEY ONLY RELY ON, UH, ATTENDING THESE, UH,

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SO THAT IS MY, UH, MAIN CONCERN, UH, THE NOISE POLLUTION.

AND I DON'T THINK, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE AVOIDED.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRIS MENTI.

I RESIDE ON ELOF 2041 ELOF CIRCLE.

AND, UM, THE PROBLEM IS, UM, I OPPOSE IT.

IT'S NOT THAT I OPPOSE A BUSINESS BEING THERE, IT'S JUST THAT THE TIRE, THE CANOPIES WILL BE DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR WALL.

I MEAN, THERE'S LIKE NO SEPARATION.

THERE'S THE WALL AND THEN THE, THE CANOPIES WILL BE THERE.

HE SAYS THAT THE DOORS WON'T MAKE NOISE.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF THAT.

I HAVE AN ELDERLY MOTHER WHO LIVES THERE.

I JUST CAN'T PICTURE FROM EIGHT IN THE MORNING TILL SIX AT NIGHT, HEARING DRILLS OF TIRES OR AIR.

WE MOVED INTO THAT STREET CUZ IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC AND THERE'S NO CARS GOING IN AND OUT.

AND THIS IS GONNA MAKE NOT ONLY FROM THE COFFEE SHOP, BUT FROM THE TIRES.

SO MUCH TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE.

I'M CONCERNED IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING.

WE HAVE OUR POOL RIGHT THERE.

WE HAVE OUR BEDROOMS RIGHT THERE.

IT IS SO CLOSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO ROOM.

PLUS WE HAVE FIRESTONE TIRES APPROXIMATELY TWO BLOCKS DOWN.

WE HAVE SAM'S CLUB THAT INSTALLS TIRES.

WE HAVE COSTCOS, WE HAVE SALINAS.

WHY WOULD THEY PUT IN ANOTHER TIRE SHOP? I MEAN, OF ANY BUSINESS? I WOULD, IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING.

A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, OPTOMETRY, FLOWERS, ANYTHING.

WHY AT TIRE SHOP WHEN WE'RE RIGHT DIRECTLY BEHIND THE WALL.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

HI, I'M MIKE BROWN.

I RESIDE AT 2 0 3 1 ELOF CIRCLE AND I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.

I CAN'T THINK OF A BUSINESS THAT WOULD HAVE A LARGER NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR QUALITY OF LIFE THAN A TIRE INSTALLATION SHOP.