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[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2024 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
GOOD EVENING.AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO AN ORDER.
WILL THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN? COMMISSIONER VERNIER IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
READY TO BEGIN, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? ONE, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL RO CHAIR ROJAS.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA.
PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A.
SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED.
ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
CALENDAR PORTION OF THE, OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE.
ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED.
FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? OKAY.
HEARING NONE MAY I I I'VE BEEN INFORMED PERHAPS THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE A, A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE COYOTE VILLAGE COMMUNITY AND I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WHAT DO WE HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY? MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU WANT TO PULL THIS ITEM FOR THE UPDATE OR DO YOU JUST WANT THIS UPDATE BEFORE YOU VOTE? UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL, UH, PULL THE ITEM AND THEN LET'S VOTE ON THE OTHER CONSENT, UM, ITEMS. DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? YES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
A MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
AND TO BE CLEAR, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER MACHA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZURICH.
MINE'S, UH, MINE'S NOT LIGHTING UP.
I THINK THIS WAS A ISSUE AT A OTHER COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SO YOU MAY JUST WANNA TAKE A ORAL, ORAL VOTE.
ARE WE, ARE WE VOTING ON JUST REMOVING, JUST PULLING THE ITEM? CORRECT.
DO YOU WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE
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CONSENT CALENDAR THAT WE CAN PULL, PLEASE? YEAH.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITHOUT THE ITEM WE PULLED.
THAT WAS A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VERNIER.
JUST NEED A MINUTE TO CATCH UP.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'VE BEEN ASKED BY STAFF TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON COYOTE VILLAGE.
I BELIEVE THE STAFF REPORT KIND OF GIVES YOU ALL OF THE BACKGROUND, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS COMING BACK TO YOU EVERY 30 DAYS FOR EXTENSIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS HOW YOUR CODE IS WRITTEN, THAT WE HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY 30 DAYS TO DO THESE EXTENSIONS BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND ANOTHER ATTORNEY IN MY OFFICE.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AND UP TO A YEAR BEFORE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
SO YOU WILL BE SEEING THIS EXTENSION EVERY 30 DAYS UNTIL THE WORK IS COMPLETED.
AND KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHEN YOU DECLARED IT A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WE NEED, THE CITY NEEDS THIS AS ITS MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT THE WORK GETS DONE AND TO ENSURE THAT IT GETS PAID BACK THE APPROXIMATELY $375,000 THAT IT EXPENDED ON THE FRONT END FOR THE EMERGENCY REPAIRS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
YEAH, THE QUESTION I I WAS, UM, WONDERING IS WITH ALL OF THE WEATHER WE'VE HAD THIS LAST WEEK, I MEAN, JUST HORRIBLE, HAS ENGINEERING BEEN DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATE OR, OR TAKE A LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NO OTHER EXTENSIVE DAMAGES HAVE BEEN, UM, SET FORTH? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT PERHAPS SONYA CAN.
I I DID CONSULT WITH ENGINEERING AND THE RAIN DID NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE CONDITION IT STABILIZED AS OF TODAY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, YOU'RE SAYING THE CODE IS WHAT LIMITS IT TO A 30 DAY? CORRECT.
CAN'T TECHNICALLY THE COMMISSION MAKE A SPECIAL EXTENSION LIKE AN AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAY ON TOP OF THE CODE? UNFORTUNATELY, THE CODE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN GRANT EXTENSIONS UP TO 30 DAYS MAXIMUM.
SO AS WRITTEN, THAT'S THE MOST YOU CAN DO IS 30 DAYS.
SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU.
THE ITEM EXTENSION OF TIME PERIOD FOR ABATEMENT FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE AT COYOTE VILLAGE, LOCATED AT 9 0 1 2 9 9 7 WEST IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL AND KIND OF INFORMING US, UM, WHY IT KEEPS COMING BACK FOR THE EXTENSION AND, AND CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER MANLEY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MACHA.
MICHELLE, DID YOU, DID YOU MEAN TO ABSTAIN? YEAH.
MOTION PASSES FOR ZERO WITH COMMISSIONER BEIER ABSTAINING.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 23 DASH EIGHT.
THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST, LET ME JUST GET THIS GOING, IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL THAT WOULD BE KNOWN AS THE FOURTH CHAMBER PERSONAL TRAINING CENTER AND CLINIC WITHIN AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING THE CUP TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE COMMERCIAL SCHOOL, UH, WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT 1211 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD, SUITE A, WHICH HAS BEEN OUTLINED IN RED.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS SHARED BY THE HEAVENLY THREADING SALON, LA TORTE, DRE RESTAURANT, ACHI SUSHI EXPRESS, EXPRESS AND WINGSTOP.
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THE SITE IS ZONED SP ONE.IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN AND HAS A GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE CENTER THREE.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTHEAST AND WEST SIDES.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM LA HABER BOULEVARD IS OCCUPIED BY THE METRO AUTO USE CAR DEALERSHIP, WHICH IS DESIGNATED WITH THE MIXED USE CENTER TO LAND USE.
HERE'S THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
SUITE A ENCOMPASSES 1,465 SQUARE FEET.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO SIMPLY MOVE IN THEIR EQUIPMENT AS SHOWN ON THIS CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN LAYOUT, WHICH SHOWS TWO THIRDS OF THE SUITE WILL BE RESERVED FOR THE TRAINING AND EXERCISE AREAS.
THERE IS ALSO AN OFFICE AND A UNISEX RESTROOM LOCATED TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE SUITE.
THE FOURTH CHAMBER PLANS TO BE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM AND WEEKENDS FROM 8:00 AM TO NOON.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE BOTH INDIVIDUAL AND SMALL GROUP SESSIONS PRIMARILY RELATED TO WRESTLING.
THEY'LL PROVIDE A RANGE OF SERVICES AND THAT INCLUDES STRENGTH TRAINING, WEIGHT LOSS TRAINING, AND MASSAGE THERAPY WITH A FOCUS ON REHABILITATION.
THE ONE-ON-ONE SESSIONS TAKE PLACE WITHIN TWO THREE HOUR BLOCKS OF TIME.
FIRST FROM 8:00 AM TO 11:00 AM AND THEN FROM 12 NOON TO 3:00 PM WHEREBY A TOTAL OF THREE TRAINERS WILL EACH SCHEDULE ONE CLIENT.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO SMALL GROUP SESSIONS DURING EACH WEEKDAY.
THE FIRST GROUP ANTICIPATED TO BE SCHEDULED FROM 4:00 PM TO 5:00 PM AND THE SECOND GROUP IS ANTICIPATED TO BE SCHEDULED FROM 6:00 PM TO 7:00 PM.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WERE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, WHICH REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO ADHERE TO THE OPERATING HOURS AND THE CLASS SIZES.
THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE ALSO REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANT LOAD OF 10 PERSONS FOR THIS, UM, SUITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE WITH SUITE A, AGAIN OUTLINED IN RED.
PER THE LA HABRA MUNICIPAL CODE.
A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL REQUIRES 0.35 SPACES PER STUDENT PER SESSION AND THAT TRANSLATES TO A TOTAL OF THREE PARKING SPACES TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT.
THE APPLICANT HAS A RECIPROCAL ACCESS AND PARKING AGREEMENT IN PLACE, WHICH PROVIDES THEM ACCESS TO A TOTAL OF 186 PARKING SPACES.
THE SHARED PARKING AREA HAS BEEN OUTLINED WITH THE IN GREEN PER THE LA HABRA MUNICIPAL CODE FOR APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL SCHOOLS.
STAFF HAS CONCLUDED THE FINDINGS REQUIRED FOR GRANTING A CUP CAN BE MADE AND AS A RESULT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 23 DASH ZERO EIGHT.
AS ALWAYS, STAFF'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK DO COMMISSIONER BEIER, WILL THERE BE, UM, ANY MUSIC PLAYED DURING THE SESSIONS? I'M SORRY? WILL THERE BE ANY MUSIC? IF THERE IS MUSIC, THERE'S ALSO A CONDITION THAT THE DOORS BE CLOSED WHILE THEIR TRAINING ACTIVITIES ARE TAKING PLACE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN CASE MUSIC GETS TOO LOUD FOR OTHER BUSINESSES, WE CAN COME BACK TO IT.
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THE, AND COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE AT ALL TIMES.
AND THEN WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY CLASSES OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, BEHIND THE BUILDING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUILDING, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
NO ACTIVITIES ARE PROPOSED OUTSIDE OF THE, THE SUITE AND THE APPLICANT KNOWS THAT AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THAT.
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MARIACHI, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE HOURS.UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE HOURS ARE A CONDITION OF THIS.
UM, WAS IT, WAS IT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO HAVE EARLIER HOURS OR WAS, OR WERE THESE THE HOURS THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THAT THEY HAD TO USE? ONLY ASKING BECAUSE GYMS AND ESPECIALLY TRAINING GYMS, USUALLY HAVE EARLIER HOURS AND I WAS WONDERING IF THEY WERE RESTRICTED FROM THAT BECAUSE OF THE RULES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE OR IF THAT WAS A STAFF IDENTIFIED THE HOURS THAT THEY REQUESTED.
WE ALSO TRY TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE BY NOT LIMITING THEM TO CLOSING AT NOON ON THE WEEKENDS.
AS YOU NOTE ON THE DRAFT RESOLUTION, THE CONDITION READS THAT BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE BETWEEN 8:00 AM AND 8:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST UNLESS YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A CHANGE IN HEART AND CHANGING THE SCHEDULE.
UM, AND THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION.
IF THEY, IF THEY HAD A CHANGE OF HEART REGARDING THEIR SCHEDULE, I'M JUST THINKING REALISTICALLY, UM, FORMER TRAINER, UM, REALISTICALLY SPEAKING, IF THEY, IF IT MADE MORE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS, UM, I KNOW THAT STARBUCKS IS OPEN UP BEFORE EIGHT IN THE MORNING AND IT'S IN THE SAME CENTER.
SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION IS GOING.
IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, WOULD THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER CUP? WOULD THERE HAVE TO BE? WHAT WOULD WE CAN CONSULT WITH THE APPLICANT IF AND ASK THEM AGAIN IF THEY HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART WITH REGARDS TO THE HOURS.
IF THEY WERE TO MAKE A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IN OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS, WE ALLOW FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT FOR MINOR REQUESTS.
IF THERE ARE DEVIATIONS THAT EXTEND BEYOND A MINOR REQUEST, IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RE-REVIEW.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RICH, UH, MY QUESTION IS ON THE, UM, MAXIMUM 10 OCCUPANTS AT A ANY GIVEN TIME.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE TRAINERS, ANY OF THEIR STAFF, IF, IF ANY, RIGHT.
AND THAT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE.
COMMISSIONER MANLEY, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, SO WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE, UM, WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS? OKAY, SCENE NONE.
UM, WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.
I LIKE TO MAKE THE RESOLUTION PLEASE IF WE'RE OKAY.
I'M DOING THE ONE ON THE SCREEN.
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 22 DASH 21 TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATING A, A COMMERCIAL SCHOOL AT 1211 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD, SUITE A AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AND MAKING THE DETERMINATION OF THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL CA ACT PURSUANT OF 1 5 3 0 1 A CLASS ONE EXISTING FACILITIES OF THE CA GUIDELINES.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE YOU CALL THE VOTE, LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A TYPO IN WHAT'S BEING READ FROM THE SCREEN.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS ACTUALLY NUMBER 23 DASH ZERO EIGHT, NOT 22 DASH 21.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL SECOND.
EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
IS IT NOT LETTING YOU JASON? NO.
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO AND IT WILL BECOME FINAL IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? SO I JUST LIKE TO INFORM THE COMMISSION WHILE WE HAD EVERY INTENT OF HOLDING A SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
UM, WE WILL HAVE TO BUMP THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING IN MARCH.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, UH, FROM COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER RICH? UH, YES.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, UM, THANK STAFF, UM, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND OUR, UM, OUR FORUM FOR THE PLANNING,
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UH, FORUM.UM, GREAT PANEL OF SPEAKERS AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S REALLY GREAT TO BE ABLE TO, UM, MEET OTHER COMMISSIONERS FROM ALL DIFFERENT CITIES, UM, AND, UH, GET NEW IDEAS AND LEARN MORE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CONGRATULATE, UH, MR. ZURICH WHO'S IN OUR AUDIENCE.
I'M LIKE, WAIT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT MR. VERNIER.
'CAUSE I THINK HE WON TEACHER OF THE YEAR NOMINATION.
UM, I KNOW BEING AN EDUCATOR IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOUGHEST JOBS OUT THERE.
I HAVE PLENTY OF EDUCATORS IN MY FAMILY, SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO EDUCATING OUR YOUTH.
AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY WE GOT OUR TWO, WE HAVE OUR TWO SAILORS HOME TODAY, THIS WEEK.
WE ARE, UM, LEWIS GOT TO SEE HIM RECEIVE HIS AWARD THAT LAST WEEK AND THEN THIS WEEK ALL OF US, MY WHOLE FAMILY, INCLUDING OUR TWO SAILORS, WILL BE AT HIS, UH, NOMINATION THIS WEEK ALSO.
WELL, GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS.
HAVING, AND NO OTHER BUSINESS OR COMMENTS? UM, THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURN AND, OH, SORRY.
I, I, I MEANT TO, UM, TO MENTION ALSO AT, AT THE FORUM WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO A LOT OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, PAST COMMISSIONERS WHO TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR PACKETS AND WHEN WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE LOT TO, TO REVIEW IT, IT'S GOOD THE TIMING THAT WE HAVE, BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE LIKE A BIG PROJECT OR, UM, IT JUST WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT, UM, A LITTLE BIT SOONER, UM, TO GIVE US MORE TIME.
ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, UM, THE CITY BEING CLOSED ON FRIDAYS, IF WE HAD QUESTIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY AND THEN MONDAY'S OUR MEETING.
SO IT JUST WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IF WE NEEDED IT.
UM, STEPH IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO HELP US, WHETHER IT'S VIA EMAIL OR, UM, PHONE CALLS.
AND I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE HELP THAT WE GET FROM ALL OF YOU.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY IF, IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE A A HEAVY, A HEAVY LOAD, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
CAN I JUST SAY, CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT? I KNOW THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE'VE LOST A LOT OF STAFF.
IN THE PAST MONTH WE'VE LOST THREE PEOPLE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN REALLY SWAMPED AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DO SHORT STAFFED AS WELL, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IN THE PAST WE'VE UH, RECEIVED, UM, BIGGER PROJECTS MONTHS IN ADVANCE JUST AS A HEADS UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND YES, STAFF IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, SO THEY'RE ALL KIND OF FIGURING EVERYTHING OUT TOGETHER.
SO, UM, DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
HEADS UP BE GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, I THINK THEY'VE DONE REALLY GOOD, REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
NOTHING TOO CRITICAL THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS, UM, TOO HEAVY, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME HAVE 10 DAYS, SOME HAVE SEVEN DAYS, AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU ABSOLUTELY NEEDED THAT TIME.
BUT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN GOOD SO FAR AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GETTING.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TO THAT.
I, I THINK, YEAH, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY GRATEFUL OF STAFF AND, UM, AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.
I, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT TO, TO MAKE IT KIND OF ARBITRARY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S A BIGGER PROJECT? WHAT'S NOT, WHAT IS A PROJECT THAT THE COMMISSION MAY WANT MORE TIME ON WHAT'S NOT? AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME MIGHT BE MORE CONFUSING.
UM, AND I, AND I KNOW I'M NOT AWARE OF, I CAN ONLY ASSUME, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT'S INVOLVED IN, UH, IN GETTING THOSE AGENDAS TO US.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WE'RE UNAWARE OF MANY OF THOSE.
UM, SO WHATEVER EFFORT THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF COULD MAKE TO, TO TRY TO GET THAT STUFF TO US ON A REGULAR BASIS INSTEAD OF JUST ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
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THIS.UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK AS CARRIE KINDA LINES OUT THE, THE TIMELINE, IT, IT IS, IT CAN BE TOUGH.
UM, WE MAY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A PROJECT, BUT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD KIND OF DILIGENTLY REVIEW.
I MEAN, THOSE EIR ARE, ARE MASSIVE AND YOU KNOW, TO GET THOSE ON THURSDAY, EVEN IF STAFF TOLD US ABOUT IT, UM, MICHELLE, IT'D BE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO KINDA REVIEW ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I, I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE OF STANDARDIZING THINGS IN A WAY, IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GET THAT TO US.
UM, JUST LIKE TWO DAYS SOONER I THINK WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.
SO IF WE NEEDED TO, YOU KNOW, ASK SOME DIFFICULT QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE SOME TIME FROM STAFF THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MONDAY AND, UM, AND MAKE EVERYONE'S LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER, UM, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL FOR ME.
I KNOW IF I MAY, UM, TYPICALLY WHAT I SEE AS BEING, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LARGE PROJECT AND A SMALL PROJECT IS OFTEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT TAKES PLACE FOR IT.
LARGER PROJECTS REQUIRE EIRS AS A RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC 45 DAYS FOR REVIEW, WAY IN ADVANCE OF IT GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IN PAST PRACTICE WHERE I'VE WORKED BEFORE, THAT'S WHEN WE ALSO RELEASED THAT DRAFT.
WELL, IT'S RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE IT TO THE COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY EVEN CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THAT TIME SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
NOT NECESSARILY OPINE ON THE PROJECT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
BUT, UM, TO ME, FOR THE EIRS, WHICH ARE THE REALLY LARGE PROJECTS, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE OF THOSE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE YET.
UM, WE CERTAINLY WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME.
AND THEN FOR MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS, USUALLY THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD FOR THOSE ARE 20 TO 30 DAYS, DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A PROJECT OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE.
AND AGAIN, WE WOULD EXTEND THAT SAME COURTESY TO YOU AS WE RELEASE THE PROJECT TO THE PUBLIC.
WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN, IT'S ALSO BEEN MADE AVAILABLE SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IT.
UM, IF NECESSARY, WE CAN DO A WORKSHOP.
I, I THINK WE'D WANNA KNOW A LITTLE BIT FROM YOU ON HOW COMPLICATED YOU FEEL THAT PROJECT IS.
YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE 7, 8, 9 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND STATE LAW REQUIRES US TO GET THE AGENDAS OUT 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WE CERTAINLY WILL TRY AND GET THEM OUT.
I THINK AS WAS MENTIONED AT THE, UM, AT THE FORUM IS IT DOES BECOME A BALANCE BETWEEN BEING, STREAMLINING THE REVIEW OF OUR APPLICATIONS AND GETTING PROJECTS TO YOU VERSUS LIKE JASON SAID, THE BACKEND WHERE WE HAVE TO PREPARE THE STAFF REPORT, PREPARE THE NOTICING, ALL THAT.
BUT WE TOGETHER WITH SONIA AS WE ARE BRINGING ON THIS NEW SET OF PLANNERS THAT WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK ON, UM, GREEN AND SCHEDULE THAT HOPEFULLY CAN GET YOU THOSE REPORTS EARLIER.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MARCH 11TH, 2024.