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[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, MARCH 25, 2024 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]

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GOOD EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT THIS TIME.

UH, WILL THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND JOIN? UH, COMMISSIONER VERNIER.

READY TO BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR RICHARD STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

THANK YOU.

WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLE VICE CHAIR SAGE HERE.

COMMISSIONER MACHA HERE.

COMMISSIONER MANLEY HERE.

COMMISSIONER VERNIER.

HERE, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT CHAIR ROJAS HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PROCLAMATION.

COMMISSIONER BURNER, IF YOU COULD COME JOIN ME DOWN HERE.

SO I AM PLEASED TONIGHT TO PREVENT, TO PREVENT PRESENT COMMISSIONER BURNER WITH THIS PROCLAMATION FOR HER SIX YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

EIGHT.

EIGHT.

OH MY GOSH, I DID MY MATH WRONG.

OH, WELL, , EIGHT YEARS.

SORRY.

SINCE 2016.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

BAD, BAD MATH.

UM, BETTER.

I'M LIVING IN THE PAST, .

BUT ANYWAYS, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

JUST YOU WERE VERY WELCOMING TO ME AS A NEW DIRECTOR.

YOU REALLY WANTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDED TO GO FORTH IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

QUITE FRANKLY, I SAW YOU AS A SENIOR MEN MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, REALLY KNOWING HOW THINGS ARE RUN AND JUST, YOU REALLY PUT A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT INTO THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE.

AND YOU DEFINITELY HAVE A PASSION FOR PUBLIC ART, WHICH I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN REALIZE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

I THINK WE BOTH WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL AS MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE PROCLAMATION THAT I HAVE BEFORE ME JUST GOES THROUGH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW, UM, THE ROW ON HARBOR, WHICH IS A GREAT ONE.

I'M JUST GONNA KNOCK OFF A COUPLE OF THESE DUTCH BROTHERS.

UM, THE NEWLY RELOCATED CITY HALL THAT WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE, UM, JUST A NUMBER OF GREAT BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE.

TRADER JOE'S, I MEAN, JUST REALLY BIG THINGS WHEN, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, I'M SURE IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A SHORT EIGHT YEARS TO YOU, BUT YOU REALLY ACCOMPLISHED A LOT, AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF HOUSING PROJECTS WORKING ON OUR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND REVIEWING THAT.

JUST, YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH OVER THIS TIME.

I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS PROCLAMATION YOU HANG, YOU CAN REALLY REMEMBER FONDLY WHAT YOU'VE WORKED ON.

AND THEN JUST EVEN WHILE YOU MAY NOT BE A COMMISSIONER NOW, JUST CONTINUING YOUR GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE MADE SUCH AN IMPACT ON THE CITY OF LAHARA.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? UM, UH, UH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WHEN I FIRST APPLIED TO BE A PLANNING A COMMISSIONER, I WENT FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION.

I DIDN'T EVEN EXPECT TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AT ALL.

AND THEY HAD ASKED ME, UM, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? DO YOU WANNA BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER? I SAID, NO, NOT REALLY.

SO ALL, NO, MICHELLE, DO YOU WANNA BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER? WE'RE LIKE, NO, NOT REALLY.

, NO, MICHELLE, YOU'RE GONNA BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

AND I TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT I HAD THE MENTORS I HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, JERRY AND, AND ANDREW AND THE REST OF THE TEAM.

THEY TAUGHT ME HOW TO CHAMPION THINGS THAT WE, I BELIEVE IN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ART, OF COURSE ART IS HUGE FOR ME.

UM, IT'S, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT DOING WHAT THE RESIDENTS NEED AND WANT.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MY WANTS AND IT'S NOT ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

I'M SO PROUD TO BE ON SO MANY PROJECTS.

I'M PROUD OF VISTA GRANDE PARK.

I'M PROUD OF, UM, UH, THE NEW IN AND OUTS, BOTH OF THEM WHERE I WAS ON, UH, THE REVAMP ON LAMBERT IN THE BUILDING OF THE ONE ON HARBOR.

YES, TRADER JOE'S.

IT'S WHERE I MET MY HUSBAND, OR IT WAS A MARKET.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 25, 24 YEARS THIS WEEK.

YOU KNOW, I NEVER WOULD'VE MET HIM IF IT HADN'T BEEN.

SO, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NEAT THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, AND I'M REALLY HOPE THAT YOU FEEL THAT IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY FEELS I TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

I REALLY LOVE IT.

I DIDN'T EXPECT TO.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE TOO, EVEN THOUGH I, I, I KNEW A LOT.

I DEFINITELY LEARNED MORE, UH, WITH YOU GUYS.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T LOOK THE SAME FROM WHEN I STARTED AND EVEN FROM A YEAR AGO, I'M SO GLAD THAT I STAYED AND I HAD THE EXPERIENCE, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NO PROBLEM.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME DOWN THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE GROUP

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PICTURE.

, I BE IN THE PICTURE BECAUSE YOU, I COME, YOU GIMME THE PHONE.

I'VE GOT YOUR PHONE.

PHONE.

OKAY.

TWO .

OKAY.

ONE, TWO.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

SO, .

OH, .

MICHELLE, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR ALL THESE, UH, EIGHT YEARS THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THE COMMISSION.

UM, YOU'VE BEEN A, A VITAL PART OF DECISION MAKING, UM, WITH ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES OVER THE TIME.

I'M SURE THAT, UH, CHAIRS HAVE BEEN VACANT AND, AND FILLED DURING THOSE EIGHT YEARS.

SO WE THANK YOU AS, AS, UH, YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING, UNLIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AN OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THIS SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A.

SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? SEEING NO.

WE WILL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED, ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH THE TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.

SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME, IT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS THE ITEM IS REMOVED.

FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM AT THIS TIME? NO.

NO.

HEARING NONE, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WILL EVERYONE ENTER THEIR VOTE? UH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

NOT YET.

OKAY.

ENTER YOUR VOTES.

WHAT DID I MISS? MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.

COMMISSIONER MACHA WILL BE EX WILL RECUSE HERSELF AND HEAD TO THE BACK ROOM FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT I SHOULD, UM, STATE THAT I AM A RESIDENT OF.

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I LIVE AT 8 1 3 EASTERN AVENUE AND HAVE AN ECONOMIC INTEREST, AND THEREFORE I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE.

THANK YOU.

THE PROCEDURES WERE BE AS FOLLOWS, THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THE STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.

THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN.

THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTION IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTERN.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER'S CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.

WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.

THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT CHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.

TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DULY NOTED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER.

LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.

23 DASH ZERO ONE TO MERGE TWO PARCELS INTO ONE PARCEL AND DESIGN REVIEW 23 DASH ZERO TWO TO CONSTRUCT A NINE UNIT THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX KNOWN AS MAGNOLIA VILLAS ON THE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 8 28 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND ONE 10 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET.

DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME IS SONYA LOUIE AND I'M THE PLANNING MANAGER.

I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES TWO APPLICATIONS.

THE FIRST IS LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT, 23 DASH ZERO ONE, WHICH WILL ALLOW TWO PARCELS TO BE MERGED INTO ONE PARCEL.

THE SECOND APPLICATION IS FOR DESIGN REVIEW, 23 DASH TWO TO CONSTRUCT A NINE UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, AS NOTED, WHICH WILL BE NOTED KNOWN AS MAGNOLIA VILLAS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND COLLEGE STREET.

THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION IS TRANSITIONAL, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 23 UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROJECT SITE IS ZONED SP ONE IN THE LA HABRA BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN.

WHILE THE DENSITY ALLOWS AS HIGH AS 23 UNITS TO THE ACRE, NO AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

AND SINCE THIS PROJECT INVOLVES LESS THAN 10 UNITS, THE PROJECT IS ALSO NOT SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS.

THE PROJECT'S SITE IS COMPRISED OF TWO PROPERTIES, WHICH TOGETHER TOTAL 18,580 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.

THE PROJECT SITE WAS FORMERLY OCCUPIED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, BUT THESE WERE FIRE DAMAGE AND EVENTUALLY DEMOLISHED IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.

BOTH LOTS HAVE BEEN VACANT SINCE THEN.

HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE LOT LINE TO BE REMOVED UNDER THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT REQUEST ENABLING THE TWO PARCELS TO BECOME ONE.

THE PROJECT SITE INCLUDES VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM BOTH EAST LA HAPER BOULEVARD AND COLLEGE STREET.

THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDES A THREE STORY BUILDING, WHICH HAS BEEN PURPOSELY CITED CLOSEST TO LA HAPER BOULEVARD.

A DETACHED GARAGE IS LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THE APPLICANT'S INTENT HERE IS TO MAINTAIN A GREATER DISTANCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE SOUTH.

EVERY UNIT WILL HAVE, UM,

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ACCESS TO GARAGE PARKING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

THE PROJECT WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 PARKING SPACES WITHIN GARAGES.

IT ALSO INCLUDES A VAN ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACE AND SIX OPEN UNCOVERED SPACES, WHICH INCLUDES REQUIRED FOUR GUEST PARKING SPACES UNDER THE CITY'S CODE.

THE PROPOSED PARKING MEETS THE LAHABRA MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDES A TOTAL OF 22 ONSITE PARKING SPACES.

THE PRO THE PROJECT IS NOT PROPOSED AS A GATED COMMUNITY AND WILL NOT INCLUDE THE USE OF ANY VEHICULAR ACCESS GATES.

THE PROJECT, AS NOTED, INCLUDES A TOTAL OF NINE UNITS.

THIS INCLUDES THREE STUDIOS, THREE ONE BEDROOM UNITS, AND THREE TWO BEDROOM UNITS.

THE SMALLEST FLOOR PLAN STARTS AT 555 SQUARE FEET WITH THE LARGEST TWO BEDROOM REACHING 967 SQUARE FEET.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO WALK THE COMMISSION THROUGH EACH OF THE FLOOR PLAN LEVELS ON THE FIRST FLOOR GROUND FLOOR.

THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING ONE, ONE BEDROOM UNIT, WHICH WILL BE A DA ACCESSIBLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDING ONE ONE BEDROOM UNIT AS WELL AS TWO STUDIO UNITS AND TWO TWO BEDROOM UNITS.

AS DEPICTED ON THE SLIDE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE STUDIO, ONE ONE BEDROOM UNIT, AND ONE TWO BEDROOM UNIT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ROOFTOPS OF THE, UH, ENCLOSED GARAGE AREAS PURSUANT TO THE LA HABER BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN.

THE PROPOSED A CAR APARTMENT BUILDING WAS DESIGNED USING THE EARLY CALIFORNIA SPANISH STYLE ARCHITECTURE.

THE TOP ELEVATION SHOWS THE PROJECT AS IT WILL APPEAR FROM COLLEGE STREET, AND THE BOTTOM ELEVATION SHOWS HOW THE PROJECT WILL LOOK FROM EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD.

THE KEY FEATURES THAT HELP THE APPLICANT ACHIEVE THE SPANISH ARCHITECTURAL STYLE PER THE SPECIFIC PLAN INCLUDES THE USE OF THE BARREL TILE ROOF, SMOOTH STUCCO, WALL CLADDING, ARCHED WINDOWS, FABRIC CANOPIES.

THEY'VE INCORPORATED SPANISH TILE RAILING, KNOTTED ROT, IRON RAILING, AND ALSO ADDED TRADITIONAL LAMP LIGHT FIXTURES.

HERE ARE THE LAST TWO ELEVATIONS WITH THE EAST ELEVATION ON TOP AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION ON THE BOTTOM.

I JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT TO ENSURE THAT ALL ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT WILL BE COMPLETELY SCREENED BY THE BUILDING PARAPETS, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN CONDITIONED TO PROVIDE A LINE OF SIGHT DETAIL ON THEIR BUILDING PLANS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS.

FINALLY, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN AN URBANIZED AREA AND THE PROJECTS DESIGNED PROVIDES SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, SUCH AS FIRE AND POLICE, AND WILL BE SERVED BY SANITARY SEWERS AND STORM DRAINS CONNECTED TO EXISTING FACILITIES WITHIN EITHER LA HABER BOULEVARD AND OR COLLEGE STREET.

THEREFORE, THE SITE CAN BE ADEQUATELY SERVICE BY ALL REQUIRED UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES.

THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN REQUIRES 250 SQUARE FEET OF USABLE OPEN SPACE OR A TOTAL OF 2,250 SQUARE FEET.

IT ENCLO IT INCLUDES BOTH PRIVATE OPEN SPACE WHEREBY AT LEAST 30% OF THE UNITS HAVE PRIVATE BALCONIES AND A LARGER OPEN PATIO AREA INTENDED TO HAVE COMMUNAL ACCESS.

THE SHARED OPEN PATIO AREA WILL INCLUDE OUTDOOR PATIO FURNISHINGS, UH, TWO GAS BARBECUES, AND OF COURSE IT'LL BE LANDSCAPED.

ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPED AREA WAS INCLUDED IN THE PARKING LOT EQUAL TO 7% OF THAT AREA.

FOR THIS PROJECT, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT

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WAS 407 SQUARE FEET AND THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 2,620 SQUARE FEET.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED, THE SIDE YARD SETBACK ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS 10 FEET, AS WELL AS THE 11 FOOT TWO INCH REAR SETBACK TO THE SOUTH IS FULLY LANDSCAPED AND 10 AND INTENDED TO BE UTILIZED AS A STORM WATER RETENTION AREA.

AND THIS PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE, UM, RESOLUTION APPROVING, UM, BOTH PROJECTS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SONYA.

AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS SHOULD THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

I DO.

SONIA, WHAT WAS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION? THIS IS PART OF THE SP ONE LAHORE BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN.

OKAY, PERFECT.

UH, THAT WAS MICHELLE.

WILL THERE BE ANY ASSOCIATION, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT? THIS IS AN APARTMENT RENTAL PROJECT.

I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE MANAGED BY AN APARTMENT MANAGER, NOT A, UM, HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.

OKAY.

SONIA, I I DID HAVE A, A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE ONE TO, UM, TO ASK THE DEVELOPER.

THE DEVELOPER, UM, THE QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS IS A A THREE STORY RENTAL AND ONLY THE BOTTOM UNIT IS A DA ACCESSIBLE, WILL THERE BE AN ELEVATOR TO ACCESS THOSE OTHER TWO LEVELS FOR ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO STAIRS? I BELIEVE THE FLOOR PLANS DO SHOW AN ELEVATOR ON THERE.

LET'S SEE.

UM, SO HARD TO SEE EVEN WITH MY GLASSES.

I CAN'T SEE WHENEVER YOU CAN.

THIS WOULD BE THE STAIRS.

OH, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

I I DO SEE IT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT, YEAH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STAIRS.

I'M LOOKING FOR A POINTER.

SOMETHING HERE.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT NEAR RIGHT ON TOP OF THE STAIRS IF YOU GO, IF YOU SEE THE STAIRS AND THERE'S A SQUARE BOX.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

UM, SO THE UNIT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, WOULD THAT BE A STUDIO, A ONE BEDROOM OR A TWO BEDROOM? I HAVE THAT ON THE SLIDE HERE AS A ONE BEDROOM UNIT.

ONE BEDROOM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND AS FAR AS THE, UM, GARAGE SPACES, DOES THE STUDIO GET A GAR A SINGLE CAR GARAGE OR IS IT A PARKING SPACE? SO LET ME WALK THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UNITS THAT EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

UM, IT HAS THE UNITS ABOVE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

THERE IS GARAGE PARKING.

AND I KNOW WHERE, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE A DA SPACE AND THE SPACE TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

THOSE ARE GATED, UH, COVERED SPACES.

AS FAR AS, UM, THE NUMBER OF GARAGE SPACES, THERE'S ONLY 15.

SO THERE WILL BE TWO UNITS, I BELIEVE, WHICH WILL HAVE COVERED SPACES ONLY, NOT A FULL GARAGE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS SO FAR.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GONNA ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE, UM, WE NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

WE WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT? I

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ARE YOU WHAT? OH, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, AFTER YOU, SIR.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, MY NAME IS STEVEN IBARRA FROM SA DESIGN CONCEPTS.

I'M THE ARCHITECT SLASH APPLICANT.

UM, IF, UH, IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION I CAN PROVIDE WHAT SONYA HAS GET PRESENTED, I'D MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, WHAT SHE WAS MENTIONING JUST PRIOR TO THE PARKING ISSUE, AND I DO HAVE A POINTER, , THESE THREE RIGHT HERE ARE DEDICATED TO THE STUDIO UNITS AND THE OTHER UNITS, THE ONE BEDROOM AND THE TWO BEDROOM.

UM, IT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO, TWO STALLS PER GARAGE.

THAT'S WHERE THE, THE BALANCE IS COMING FROM.

HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR THE HANDICAP, AND THEN HERE ALSO.

AND THEN THESE 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE ARE FOR GUEST BARKING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY, UH, THE TWO, UM, STUDIOS GET JUST THE GARAGE, THE, THE, THE CARPORT? IS THAT NO.

AM I RIGHT? NO, THE TWO, THE STUDIOS UNITS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COVERED GARAGES.

OKAY.

HERE, HERE AND HERE.

GARAGES.

STEVEN, THE A DA SPACE AND THE SPACE TO THE NORTH OF THAT THOUGH IS GATED THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL GARAGE DOOR.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE HABRA? WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? I'M SORRY.

THE, THE A DA SPACE, THE EIGHT A OH, RIGHT HERE.

MM-HMM.

.

IT IS, IT IS GATED AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT HERE, THIS WHOLE AREA, UM, IS SECURE.

THERE IS A, A FENCE THAT WRAPS AROUND HERE WITH A GATE HERE.

THERE'S AN ENTRANCE OFF THE HARBOR COMING DOWN HERE.

AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GATE WITH, AND THESE ARE ALL THE CARD ACCESS.

AND THEN THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT RIGHT HERE AT THE DROP OFF AREA.

AND THIS IS GATED AS WELL.

SO THE, THE SITE IS SECURE AND ONCE YOU GET IN ON EITHER OF THESE THREE POINTS, UH, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE STAIRS AND TO THE ELEVATOR TO TAKE UP TO THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR.

PERFECT.

SO, UM, THERE'S A GATE TO GET IN, UH, WITH YOUR CAR TOO, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, I, NO, PEDESTRIAN.

JUST THE, THE COMPLEX IS GATED, BUT NOT THE DRIVE THROUGH.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

WE HAD TO DEAL WITH SOME ISSUES WITH THE ENGINEERING THERE.

SO WE OPTED NOT TO CLOSE, UH, THE PARKING WITH A GATE.

SO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS GATED, BUT A PEDESTRIAN COULD JUST WALK A HUNDRED FEET FURTHER AND WALK RIGHT IN THE DRIVEWAY.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THEY CAN WALK IN THE DRIVEWAY, BUT THEY CAN'T GET INSIDE THE COMPLEX PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS TAKING THEM DIRECTLY INTO THE BUILDING, WHEREAS THE DRIVEWAY WOULD JUST TAKE THEM TO THE PARKING LOT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE FEEL TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE WITH THIS? 'CAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE ALL GONNA GET A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

IT'S GONNA BE A HOT ISSUE.

SO HOW DO WE FEEL TRAFFIC ON COLLEGE AND LA HOVER BOULEVARD? THIS IS CLOSER TO HARBOR, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THIS IS, NO, THIS IS JUST A NINE UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH TYPICALLY HAS MINIMAL IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING TRAFFIC AND ON COLLEGE.

YEAH.

COLLEGE AND COLLEGE HITS WHAT STREET? IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM A HUNDRED BOARD AND IT'LL HIT, DO YOU GUYS KNOW L BEHIND IT? I DON'T HAVE THE MAP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK THAT UP.

UM, BUT ENTRANCE, THERE'S THE ENTRANCE OFF OF STATE COLLEGE, OR SORRY, OFF OF COLLEGE AS WELL AS THE ENTRANCE OFF OF LA HOPPER BOULEVARD THERE.

SO TYPICALLY DURING PEAK PERIODS, YOU WON'T SEE A HIGH NUMBER OF IT.

IT WOULDN'T BE, UM, ANY DIFFERENT WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ON THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THEY ARE WITHIN THE ZONING, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

LOOKING AT THE MAP.

IT, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE TWO BLOCKS, UM, FROM COLLEGE RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH, UH, FROM LAHABRA BOULEVARD DOWN TO THIRD AVENUE.

YEAH.

AND THAT'LL BE NEAR THE SCHOOL, WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE, UM, DONE OUR HOMEWORK ON THAT, RIGHT? YES.

THE COMPLEX IS ABOUT 175 FEET TO THE EAST.

THERE'S A BUILDINGS BETWEEN, UM, THE COMPLEX IN THE SCHOOL.

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I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? THANK YOU.

MR. IBARRA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE COMPLEX OR THE, EXCUSE ME.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

NOT SO MUCH OPPOSITION, BUT, UH, CONCERNS.

I'M SORRY, SIR.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? I'M SORRY.

MY NAME IS DAN KALO.

I AM A RESIDENT HERE.

MY PROPERTY, UH, RESIDES ACTUALLY JUST SOUTH OF, UM, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE ON THE SITE PLAN.

SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PLAN.

UM, BECAUSE I'M, I'M IN, UH, FEDERAL, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND DO A LOT OF WORK, UM, ON THE FEDERAL SECTOR ACROSS THE WORLD.

UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS ACTUALLY AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE EMPTY LOT, THE VOID.

WHAT, WHAT THAT IS ACTUALLY DOESN'T REALLY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T SEE IT .

IT'S TOO FAR AWAY.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH, UH, THE HONORABLE COMMITTEE AHEAD OF TIME IS SOME OF THE POINTS HE DID BRING UP WAS, WAS, UH, THE PARKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE ON COLLEGE STREET.

IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND KNOW AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A HOMEOWNER AND A TAXPAYER, IT'S KIND OF A, A REAL PAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EVEN, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY TO FIND PARKING ON THE STREET.

AND THAT IS DUE TO ON COLLEGE STREET, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA USE THIS AS A REFERENCE, BUT IF YOU WANNA, UH, LOOK AT AN ARROW VIEW TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE PLAN WHERE COLLEGE STREET IS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER APARTMENT IN OUR STUDIO DWELLING THAT HAS NO PARKING FOR THEIR RESIDENCE.

AND I THINK BY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK PER CODE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO RENT OUT, UH, IN A, IN AN APARTMENT, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOEVER'S GONNA BE THE, THE RENTER IS GUARANTEED A PARKING SPOT.

SO I, I THINK THAT THEY MAY BE IN NON-COMPLIANCE.

MAYBE THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO, TO THE CITY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATING PARKING FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON COLLEGE STREET BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE FROM EVERY, YOU KNOW, FROM THESE OTHER, UH, OTHER AREAS ARE, ARE PARKING ON OUR STREETS.

SO IT WAS A HUGE CONGESTION, HUGE ISSUE FOR, FOR ALL OF US, UM, THAT LIVE THERE.

THE SEWER LINES, WE ADDED AN ISSUE ON, ON SOME SEWER WORK THAT WAS DONE.

UM, THIS IS ANOTHER TALKING POINT FOR ANOTHER TIME, BUT, UM, I WAS VERY DISPLEASED WITH I THE RESPONSE, UH, FROM, UH, YOUR, YOUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT ON ISSUES THAT WERE CAUSED ON MY PROPERTY.

ANOTHER TALKING POINT, BUT CASE IN POINT, ALL THE LINES ARE OLD.

I KNOW, I HAVE PICTURES.

THEY'RE EXTREMELY OLD.

YOU'RE GONNA PUT OVER 40 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SMALL SQUARE, SQUARE PARCEL.

I'M TELLING YOU, WE, I MEAN, WE HAD ISSUES WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PEOPLE AND INFRASTRUCTURE'S GONNA BE PUTTING A STRAIN ON THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE YOU HAVE IN THE GROUND.

I KNOW VERY WELL.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR.

A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK.

UM, SO THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S, TRUST ME.

AND, AND LITERALLY ALL THIS STUFF RUNS DOWNHILL , LITERALLY.

I KNOW.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE EX, YOU KNOW, BIG CONCERNS WITH, UM, THEM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, PROPER, UH, SEWAGE FOR THIS COMPLEX WITH THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

WATER LINES ARE THE SAME WAY, UH, ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT, UH, DEMAND.

AND HOW'S THAT GONNA AFFECT ALL THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA WITH WATER PRESSURE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH WATER'S GONNA COME THROUGH.

THOSE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT.

UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UM, DUST AND DEBRIS.

MY, I MEAN, I COULD WALK UP THERE AND I COULD SHOW LIKE, MY DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT GREEN, I GUESS THAT GREEN RECTANGLE OR WHATEVER THE EDGE IS OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

AND RIGHT NOW, AS IT STANDS FOR THE PAST GOING ON TWO YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG VINCENT CORTEZ HAS PURCHASED THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, THEY'VE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, DO A GOOD JOB, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING, KEEPING IT UP.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I HAVE, I HAVE POUNDS OF, I HAVE STACKS OF DIRT AND DUST ALL OVER THE PLACE DUE TO, YOU KNOW, THE ILL EFFECT OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT COMING DOWN.

SO AGAIN, WITH CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I HAVE A BIG CONCERN OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S GONNA GONNA WORK WITH, ESPECIALLY LA HABER BEING EXTREMELY BUSY.

AND THEN IF COLLEGE STREET IS RIGHT THERE TO NO ROOM TO PARK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE

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HAD THE CONSTRUCTION, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REAL BEAR.

UM, IT NINE FAMILIES MORE TRASH.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ISSUES RIGHT NOW WITH PEOPLE JUST DUMPING ALL THEIR TRASH ON COLLEGE STREET.

LITERALLY.

SERIOUSLY, I'VE CALLED HERE, I'VE CALLED IT HERE MANY TIMES, SAYING, LOOK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE DUMPING, YOU KNOW, BEDS, SOFAS, YOU NAME IT, AND IT'S THERE.

REFRIGERATORS, THE LIST GOES ON RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF LAHABRA AND COLLEGE STREET IS BEEN HAPPENING FOR YEARS.

AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SPEAK ON, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS HAPPENING AND IT'S AN ISSUE.

HOW'S THAT GONNA AFFECT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS CURRENT, UH, DWELLING BEING PUT IN, UH, NOISE CONTROL IS GONNA BE A HUGE ISSUE AS WELL.

SO I KNOW THAT MAY BE BE LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WELL, WHAT I MEAN IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE, HOW IS THAT GONNA AFFECT, UH, NOISE LEVELS? YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, RUN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF OUR HOME TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, NOISE CONTROL ON THAT IS MY TIME UP? YES.

I'M SO SORRY.

ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA, NO, IT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT.

IS IT OKAY, I JUST RATTLE OFF A COUPLE REAL QUICK.

IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE SECONDS.

SOME OTHER THINGS.

I THINK THE, I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO BE A PAIN, BUT REAL QUICK, WHAT IMPACT SHOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPECT THE PROJECT WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT OFFSITE, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ISSUES, UH, THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTY, WILL THAT BE IN, WILL THAT BE IMPACTED ON OUR PROPERTY TAX? THOSE ARE SOME BIG THINGS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

UM, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, WORK WITH US, EXCUSE ME, UH, ON ANY, UM, I'M SO SORRY.

WITH ANY OTHER CONCERNS.

YOUR TIME IS UP.

OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT TONIGHT.

UM, OKAY.

HERE YOU FINISH IT, BABY.

OH, THANK YOU.

MY NAME DOWN .

HI, MY NAME IS SHANNON ALOR.

UM, I AM ALSO A HOMEOWNER THERE ON ONE 18 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET, UM, NEIGHBOR TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

AND, UM, THAT WAS MY HUSBAND THAT WAS JUST SPEAKING .

UM, SO, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE, UH, HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT TRASH.

WE GET THE DUMPING, WE GET PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE JUST, UH, RE LOITERING.

WE GET PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST, UH, THERE TO, UM, LIVE IN THEIR CARS.

SO THE IMPACT ON THIS STREET, HAVING MORE RESIDENTS WITHOUT FIXING ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES IS ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS THAT WE ALL HAVE.

YOU KNOW, WE WANNA TRY TO BEAUTIFY.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

I MEAN, I LOVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN, BUT LET'S TRY TO FIX WHAT WE GOT GOING ON TOO.

AND, AND HEY, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT THIS BUILDING IN, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S COME TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR SEWAGE LINES ARE GREAT.

OUR WATER LINES ARE GREAT FOR THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY THAT'S GONNA BE A PACKAGE DEAL, THEN THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I'M GONNA HAVE TO OPPOSE THIS.

UM, NOW HAS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC ANALYST DONE? SHE WAS SAYING THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT.

AH, THERE'S AN IMPACT WITH WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ALL THE PARENTS HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN.

AND WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY COME AND PARK IN COLLEGE STREET AND THEY SIT THERE FOR AN HOUR OR SO AND ARE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A PROBLEM.

SO WE GOTTA DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE AS WELL.

RIGHT.

UM, AND SO, I MEAN, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THAT EMPTY LOT? I MEAN, ALL, THERE WERE SO MANY SQUATTERS, THANK GOODNESS THEY CAME IN AND THEY CLEARED IT OUT.

THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, UM, PREVIOUSLY EXISTING THERE, THEY DIDN'T ALL GO DOWN IN THE FIRE.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM WERE STILL THERE AND WE HAD SQUATTERS ALL THE TIME.

AND SO NOW WE'VE GOT THIS EMPTY LOT AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO IT.

SO AT THE MOMENT, I HAVE TO OPPOSE IT UNTIL ALL THESE ANSWERS, YOU KNOW, COME THROUGH FOR US TO FEEL COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE LIVING NEXT TO AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT, IN THE AUDIENCE? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME BACK UP AND, UH, SPEAK TO THOSE REBUTTAL ISSUES? SURE.

UM, FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, WE ALL IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE IMPACTS OF SOMETHING NEW, THERE IS EITHER A NEGATIVE IMPACT OR A POSITIVE IMPACT.

UM, THE SITE IS VACANT AT THE MOMENT, AND TO YOUR POINT,

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THERE ARE BIG ONES LIVING THEIR SQUATTERS.

UM, THIS WILL, THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL ELIMINATE THAT, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, AS FAR AS ANY, UM, NOISE, VA NOISE, UH, IMPEDES AND ANY NEGATIVE NOISE AND SO FORTH.

WE PURPOSELY MOVED THE BUILDING AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE MOVED IT UP TO THE HARBOR BOULEVARD.

UM, OUR PREVIOUS DESIGN, WE HAD IT CLOSER TO, TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS.

UH, JUST THE, JUST THE, JUST THE CODES AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, MITIGATING ALL THE, UM, THE ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT LEND ITSELF TO BE EXACTLY WHAT THIS LAYOUT, UH, IS.

AND IT'S BENEFICIAL IN A WAY THAT YOU ARE MITIGATING THE NOISE FACTOR.

IT IS FURTHER AWAY, UH, THAT LITTLE X AREA PARCEL AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND OF THE SHEET THAT'S, UM, THAT WAS BOUGHT BY THE OWNER AND HE'S GONNA DEVELOP A RED SINGLE RESIDENCE HOUSE AT THAT, AT THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE.

SO HE'S WHAT? I'M SORRY SIR.

HE'S GONNA DEVELOP A, A SINGLE, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE HOUSE THERE.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, RIGHT? IT'S A HOUSE NOW, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S, WELL, NO, IT'S VACANT A LOT NOW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THERE.

OKAY.

BUT IT WAS A HOUSE.

IT, THERE WAS A, THERE'S LIKE A STUDIO.

IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA REPLACE IT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY.

SO, UM, THAT'S, I MEAN, AS FAR AS ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING BEYOND THAT, ANY TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE CITY'S GONNA REACT TO THE, TO THE GENTLEMAN COMMENTS.

UH, IF THERE'S A NEED, I'M SURE YOU'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT .

SO, UM, I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

SURE.

BUT I WANT, UH, SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE USING THEIR GARAGE FOR THEIR CARS.

WELL, YOU'LL NOT BE LETTING THEM LIKE OVERFILL THEM OR, YOU KNOW, USE THEM AS BUSINESSES.

WE DEFINITELY WANNA SEE THESE CARS BEING USED IN THESE GARAGE SPACES.

I THINK THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE FOR THAT.

UM, I WANNA ASK ABOUT PERMITS.

HOW MANY PIT PERMITS ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE, UH, LOOKING OUT FOR? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA WORRY ABOUT, SO THIS IS WHY I BROUGHT UP COLLEGE.

'CAUSE I KNEW THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE ON COLLEGE AND I KNOW THE ISSUE ABOUT THE SCHOOL.

SO CAN WE GET, UM, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OR POLICE TO WHY, YOU KNOW, DURING, UM, LIKE ABOUT TWO TO TWO 30 TO THREE 30 JUST TO KIND OF WATCH US SO WE CAN GET A BETTER FEEL OF HOW THAT AREA GOES.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE TRAFFIC DIVISION WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.

AND I KNOW THEY MONITOR THIS AREA ON A CONSTANT BASIS.

IT'S, UM, THEY'RE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY, BUT SURE THEY DO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT JUST SO WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WATCH ON THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU, YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT A GUARANTEED OF SOME SORT.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THESE PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR GARAGES 'CAUSE THERE'S HOW MANY SPACES PER, PER, UH, UM, IN WHAT FORMAT DID THE GUARANTEE YOU LOOKING FOR? I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

A GUARANTEE.

WELL, THERE'S A, A PROJECT WE HAD DONE OFF OF A WALNUT MM-HMM.

AND ELECTRIC.

AND WE HAD A GUARANTEE THAT, THAT PEOPLE WERE GONNA BE USING THEIR GARAGES AND WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE SPACES FOR THEIR, THEIR GUESTS THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT GONNA TRY AND USE THE SPACES ON COLLEGE THAT A DOCUMENT THAT THE CITY PROVIDES AND SOMEBODY SIGNS IT.

SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

WELL, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE PROJECT PERSON WOULD HAVE THIS IN, IN THEIR CC AND R STATING OKAY, WHAT THE RULES AND REGS ARE FOR, UM, THEIR TENANTS.

AND THE CITY WANTS A COPY OF THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MICHELLE.

OKAY.

THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A ACCOMMODATE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

OKAY.

YOUR VEHICLE, HMM.

SORRY, THE MADAM CHAIR.

ONLY THE PERSON AT THE PODIUM SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION MEANS AND METHODS.

UM, I'M SURE IT WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF APPROVAL AS FAR AS, UH, WHEN, WHEN CONSTRUC CONSTRUCTION START, WHEN IT CAN END SO FORTH.

UM, EIGHT, 8:00 AM 9:00 AM 9:00 AM IN THE MORNING, TERMINATE CONSTRUCTION, FIVE OR SIX IN THE EVENING, DON'T WORK ON WEEKENDS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

I'M SURE THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT AS FAR AS ANY ONSITE, UM, MATERIALS, THEY'LL BE ONSITE.

ANY, ANY CONSTRUCTION, UM, VEHICLES COMING IN, THEY'LL BE ON, ON SITE WORKERS.

YEAH.

THEY WILL HAVE TO PARK SOMEPLACE.

BUT THAT'S NOT A PERMANENT THING ONCE A PROJECT IS COMPLETED.

IT IT DOES, IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

COMMISSIONER MANLEY HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SURE.

YES SIR.

UM, REGARDING THE GUEST PARKING, SO FIVE SPACES, RIGHT? I'M SEEING, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED FIVE EARLIER, I'M COUNTING THAT CORRECTLY.

THAT'S

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CORRECT.

OKAY.

WOULD THE PROPERTY HAVE LIKE, KIND OF SPECIFIC? AGAIN, GOING BACK TO KIND OF REGULATIONS ON THAT, LIKE OBVIOUSLY I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LIVING THERE, UH, ASIDE FROM THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LOVE IF THE CARS STAYED ON THE PROPERTY.

I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR, BUT AS YOU KNOW, A FELLOW RESIDENT THERE, YOU WOULDN'T WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, FIVE CARS JUST ALWAYS IN THOSE SPACES, NEVER MOVING.

UM, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF KIND OF REGULATION THAT YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT? UM, HOW DO YOU TREAT THOSE SPACES? WELL, THE INTENT IS FOR GUESTS AND GUESTS ARE NON, ARE TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, THEY COME AND GO, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, I THINK THE CC AND R CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT AS WELL WITH, UH, WITH THE GARAGES BEING DEDICATED TO THE UNITS.

AND, AND ONLY AND ONLY THAT WOULD YOU HAVE CC AND R FOR THE PROJECT? I WANT TO TALK TO THE CLIENT ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

AND IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT, WE'LL DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT AND WORK SOMETHING OUT.

IS THERE, I'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT.

I THINK.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I HAVE SOME MORE FOR STAFF WHEN WE CAN GET TO THAT.

MR. MANLEY, IF I MAY, THEY WILL NOT HAVE CCNRS BECAUSE THIS IS A RENTAL PROJECT.

YEAH.

BUT YOU COULD CONDITION THE PROJECT THAT ALL RESIDENTS MUST PARK WITHIN THEIR DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES AND USE THEIR GARAGES FOR PARKING.

AND CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY THERE ISN'T A CONDITION OF APPROVAL RELATED TO THAT.

UM, ON THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT, UM, WILL REQUIRE, LET'S SEE, WHERE DID I SAY THIS? JUST LOST THE CON I I'M LOST A SPECIFIC CONDITION OF APPROVAL.

BUT THEY, THE WILL, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE, UM, RESIDENTS OF THE PROPERTY ARE, OH, THERE IT IS.

THE APPLICANT CONDITION NUMBER 17 SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER SHALL INFORM THE FUTURE TENANTS OF THE PROJECT OF THE CITYWIDE PARKING PROHIBITION ON PUBLIC STREETS OVERNIGHT.

COULD YOU READ THAT ONE MORE TIME? UH, CONDITION NUMBER 17.

THE APPLICANT DEVELOPER SHALL INFORM THE FUTURE TENANTS OF THE PROJECT OF THE CITYWIDE PARKING PROHIBITION ON PUBLIC STREETS OVERNIGHT.

AND I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO POINT YOU TO ANY OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT ALSO RELATE TO SOME OF THE SEWER AND WATER ISSUES THAT CAME UP.

OKAY.

I THINK WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THOSE FOR SURE.

UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR POINTING THAT OUT THE YEAH.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND SO HOW THEY MANAGE THEIR PARKING IS REALLY ENTIRELY UP TO THEM ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEY DO MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THE, UH, APPLICANT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OR, YEAH, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO NOT.

OKAY.

I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO BACK TO THAT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN THAT I, I HEARD RAISED REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE WATER, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK VALID CONCERNS MAYBE COULD SOMEBODY ON STAFF SPEAK TO THAT CITY PUBLIC WORKS AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DID REVIEW THIS PROJECT.

THERE WAS NO EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE NINE UNITS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE SERVED.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE WERE ALSO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THEIR TRAFFIC REVIEW AND ACCESS IN AN ABILITY TO, TO SERVICE A SITE WITH BOTH WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRICAL UTILITY, UM, EASEMENTS.

COULD YOU MAYBE ANSWER, I KNOW APARTMENT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT REGARDING LIKE ARENA NUMBERS AND ALL OF THAT, DOES, DOES THIS KIND OF FALL UNDER THAT FOR THE CITY OR? SO THIS SITE'S NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE CI CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT.

UM, IT WASN'T IDENTIFIED AS, UM, ONE OF THE TARGET SITES TO HELP US ACHIEVE ARENA NUMBER.

UM, THE CITY HAS ARENA OF 804 UNITS.

THIS, THIS IS A VERY SMALL PROJECT, NOT SUBJECT AGAIN TO THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT.

AND THERE'S NO AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT.

AND FOR IT TO BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 10 OR MORE UNITS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE, I'M SORRY.

SO THAT TELLS US WHY THE ONE SPACE IS LEFT OUT FOR THE ONE SINGLE UNIT.

IS THAT WELL,

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THAT, OR THEY DON'T WANNA, THEY DON'T WANNA PACK 25 UNITS IN THERE.

YES.

AND IF I MAY JUST PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, UH, UH, PLANNING MANAGER LOUIS SAID THAT THESE UNITS WILL BE COUNTED TOWARDS ME MEETING THE ARENA IN THAT WE NOW WILL HAVE NINE MORE ABOVE MODERATE UNITS THAT, UM, CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS MEETING THAT UNDER 804 UNITS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE CITY.

THEY'RE NOT AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT EVERY YEAR WHEN WE DO OUR ANNUAL REPORT TO, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL THAT GETS PASSED ALONG TO THE STATE, IT INDICATES HOW MANY PERMITS WE'VE ISSUED FOR LOW, VERY LOW, MODERATE, AND ABOVE MODERATE INCOME UNITS.

AND THESE WOULD BE COUNTED TOWARDS THOSE ABOVE MODERATE INCOME UNITS.

AND THERE ARE ARENA, YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED, BUT THEY ACTUALLY DO TELL US HOW MANY ABOVE MODERATE INCOME UNITS THAT SHOULD, WE SHOULD EVEN SATISFY.

I DON'T RECALL US WORKING ON LOW OR ANYTHING UNDER MODERATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT IF WE HAD ADDED THE ONE SPACE TO INCLUDE THE 10.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THE NINE UNITS.

I, I VERY WELL DO.

BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THAT, UM, BUILT LATER.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE ADDED.

AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ADDING TO OUR ARENA NUMBER.

DEFINITELY.

YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, COULD HAVE BEEN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEWER.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADD THAT INTO OUR, UM, CONDITION TO HAVE THAT LOOKED AT.

AND THEN FOR THIS PARKING SPACES, PLEASE IF WE CAN ADD THAT ALSO, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHAT WE'RE ADDING.

WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD THE REQUIREMENT THAT I MENTIONED THAT ALL GARAGE SPACES BE USED FOR PARKING.

YEAH.

UM, AS FAR AS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF, UH, OF THE, FOR ENGINEERING AND, AND PUBLIC WORKS, ALL OF THE PLANS WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE BUILDING PLANS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS AND ISN'T THAT STANDARD AND THAT STANDARD EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA FOR EVERY PROJECT.

AND THEY'LL PAY DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES FOR, UM, GOING INTO THIS AREA THAT ARE INTENDED TOWARDS GOING FOR, UM, TOWARDS FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS NOT REQUIRED TO, UM, IMPROVE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

SO IF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE THAT THERE'S PARKING ON THE STREETS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY BE OLD.

A PROJECT LIKE THIS ISN'T REQUIRED TO FIX THOSE.

IT'S JUST SUPPOSED TO, UM, MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YEAH.

AT 8 1 8, LIKE I KNOW WHAT WE JUST, WE ESTABLISHED THAT ONE.

I THINK IT'S ONE 14.

IS THIS VACANT LOT MAYBE TO BE DEVELOPED LATER? WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

UM, BUT CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, ON THE SITE PLAN NORTH OF THAT, WHAT MY MAP SHOWS IS 1 0 6, 1 10 COLLEGE AND THEN 8 1 8 OR 8 2 8 EAST LAHABRA.

WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY? IS IT COMPLETELY EMPTY? YOU'RE REFERRING TO A LOT? JUST SOUTH.

UH, SO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE PICTURE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF US, I BELIEVE THAT'S ONE 14 COLLEGE.

'CAUSE I THINK WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S AT ONE 18 JUST DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THAT.

SO NORTH OF THAT BLANK WHITE XED OUT ONE 14 COLLEGE.

CURRENTLY WHAT SITS THERE? THE, THE TWO LOTS ARE VACANT.

IT'S VACANT.

LOTS VACANT.

MM-HMM.

AND 8 28 COMPLETELY VACANT CURRENTLY AS WELL? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND WERE THERE PREVIOUSLY RESIDENCES THERE, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? LOWDEN HOUSING AT ONE TIME, BUT THE STRUCTURES AFTER BECOMING FIRE DAMAGE OR WERE EVENTUALLY ABANDONED AND THEN BECAME A ISSUE AND WERE EVENTUALLY RAISED AND DEMOLISHED.

APPROXIMATELY WHEN WAS THAT? IT WAS DEMOLISHED IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.

OKAY, SO SINCE NOVEMBER OF 2022, JUST KIND OF BEEN VACANT DIRT THERE? YES.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

OKAY.

I, WE'LL NOW CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND CALL ON THE COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSIONERS

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FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION ON THE ITEM? WELL, FOR DISCUSSION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW THINGS TO DISCUSS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT HAS COME UP IN PUBLIC TESTIMONY, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS.

I THINK THOSE ARE CERTAINLY VALID.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE CITY ON OLD INFRASTRUCTURE CERTAINLY FEELS IT AND KNOWS THE IMPACT THAT ANYTHING WOULD CAUSE.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, ANY PROJECT THAT COMES BEFORE THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH FOR IT.

AND TO PICK AND CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ONE MAY NEED AND WHAT THE OTHER MAY NEED IS I THINK A DIFFICULT POSITION FOR US TO BE IN.

UM, I THINK I FEEL GOOD WHEN WATER AND PUBLIC WORKS REVIEWS THE PLANS AND FEELS CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT IT.

UM, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WITH DUMPING AND SQUATTING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WILL BE MITIGATED BY ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH I FEEL IS A GOOD THING.

UM, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING AS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED HERE TONIGHT.

UM, I UNDERSTAND PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE WHAT HAPPENS THERE ONCE IT GETS GOING.

BUT IF WE COULD CONDITION SOMETHING THAT WE FELT WAS REASONABLE FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE PARKING CONCERNS, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

AND SO IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DISCUSS MAYBE HOW THAT CONDITION WOULD BE WORDED AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO.

GO AHEAD.

YEP.

, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I WERE HERE WHISPERING ON WHAT THAT POTENTIAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL COULD SOUND LIKE.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AS I STATED BEFORE, THAT ALL TENANTS OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BE NOTIFIED THAT THEIR GARAGE SPACES MUST BE USED FOR PARKING.

AND TO THE EXTENT THE COMMISSION HAS CONCERNS ABOUT GUEST PARKING, PERHAPS THE COMMISSION COULD INCLUDE A CONDITION THAT REQUIRES THE OWNER DEVELOPER TO MONITOR AND ENFORCE HOW LONG GUEST PARKING SPACES CAN BE USED.

THAT'S GREAT.

I WOULD GO WITH THOSE TWO.

SO I WILL, UM, OKAY.

CAN WE PUT IT UP? CAN, CAN WE MAYBE I I WILL AGREE WITH THAT ON THOSE TWO FACTORS.

ANYTHING ELSE ELSE? SONIA? VERONICA, CAN YOU MOVE THE SLIDE FORWARD TO THE RECOMMENDATION? MANNY, DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, JUST, I THINK MAYBE SOME SPEC SPECI SPECIFICITY ON WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE WITHIN THAT, UM, PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IF, IF I WAS A RESIDENT THERE.

I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE REASONABLE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU MOVED IN.

BUT IT'S SO HARD TO FIND HOUSING THAT, YOU KNOW, PICK YOUR POISON.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE REASONABLE AS A CONDITION FOR APPROVAL FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT PARKING DURATION ON THOSE GUEST PARKING SPOTS? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? YEAH, THERE'S USUALLY DURATIONS, RIGHT? AM I USUALLY ABOUT 72 HOURS MAXIMUM THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, UH, COMPLEXES WHERE THERE'S GUEST PARKING.

SO SEVEN TWO HOURS SEEMS TOO LONG THOUGH FOR ONLY FIVE SPACES.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WHAT IF SOMEBODY, UM, HAS A, SOMEBODY STAYING AND THEY LEAVE THEIR CAR THERE FOR THREE DAYS AND THAT ONLY GIVES YOU FOUR SPACES.

SO I'D SAY 24 HOURS OR THE DAY STAFF ARE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING SIMILAR THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH A CONDITION LIKE THIS? NO, I'M NOT AWARE.

YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE.

YOU COULD, UM, CONDITION AS, AS A CONDITION APPROVAL REQUIRE THAT THE, UM, PARKING SPACES BE IDENTIFIED FOR GUEST PARKING OKAY.

AND MONITORED BY THE MANAGEMENT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN YES, THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT'S MEETING THE PARKING CODE AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SPACES, BUT STILL MAKING SURE THAT THOSE GUEST SPACES ARE USED FOR GUESTS AND THIS WILL BE PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED.

AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WILL BE MANAGING THE USE OF THOSE SPACES.

OKAY.

I RELATED TO PARKING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE YEARS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING PERMIT, PUBLIC PARKING PERMIT, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION APPROVAL PROCESS.

UM, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT ARE YOU, ARE YOU PREPARED TO MAYBE JUST KIND OF ELABORATE

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ON WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? I AM NOT.

I'D HAVE TO BRING FORWARD THE, UM, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC MA UH, MANAGER TO DO THAT.

HOWEVER, JUST GENERALLY, UH, PERMIT PERMIT PARKING AREAS ARE ADOPTED AND THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT ARE ISSUED.

THIS IS FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING, OVERNIGHT, PARKING'S NOT PERMITTED IN THIS AREA.

UM, THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS.

SO IT IS KIND OF THE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED AS FAR AS, UM, PUBLIC PARKING GOES, UM, DURING THE DAYTIME.

SO WHETHER IT IS, UH, PARENTS FROM THE SCHOOL PARK, PARKING AND WAITING FOR THEIR CHILDREN OR DROPPING OFF THEIR CHILDREN OR RESIDENTS OF THIS COMPLEX PARKING THERE, IT IT IS A PUBLIC STREET FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING, THOUGH THAT'S PROHIBITED IN THE CITY WITHOUT A PERMIT.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND, AND FOR, TO OBTAIN ONE OF THOSE PERMITS, I DON'T THINK IT'S EASY TO DO.

THAT'S REALLY OUTSIDE MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD IT'S EASY.

, ANECDOTALLY, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS RIGHT, LIKE THERE'S A RESIDENT LIVING THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THESE ARE SMALL UNITS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S THREE CARS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY FILL UP THEIR, THEIR PARKING SPACES AND THEN THOSE CARS HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.

MM-HMM.

.

YES.

UM, AND THEN THAT'S A LEGITIMATE IMPACT ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORS THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO NAVIGATE THAT.

I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT'S MEETING, THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR BOTH REQUIRED PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE GUEST PARKING.

I'M SURE IF WE IMPLEMENT CONDITIONS FURTHER RESTRICTING MONITORING IT PROFESSIONALLY ON SITE, PERHAPS THEY CAN INSTITUTE PARKING PERMITS FOR THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO THEY COULD TELL WHO'S A GUEST OF THE APARTMENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY JUST DRIVING ONTO THE PROPERTY TRYING TO PARK THERE.

THAT MIGHT HELP ALLEVIATE THE SITUATION.

BUT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE, THE MINIMUM CODE, I'M NOT SURE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE, THE FUTURE RESIDENTS WILL, WILL BE NOTIFIED.

WE'VE CONDITIONED THEM APPLICANT TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THERE ARE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT PROHIBIT THE OVERNIGHT PARKING.

AND SO THOSE, UM, POTENTIAL TENANTS WITH MORE THAN TWO OR THREE CARS WOULD HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE AND SEEK THE O OVERNIGHT PARKING PERMITS THROUGH THE CITY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THEY CAN REALLY DO.

OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, $50 A TICKET EVERY TIME YOU GET A PARKING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THEY BE TREATED THE SAME AS ANY OTHER RESIDENCE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO ARE WE BACK TO ANY TYPE OF CONDITION? NO, I THINK WE'RE BACK TO THE TWO THAT, UM, WE'RE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

HOW DO WE PUT THAT IN WORDING? OKAY.

SO MICHELLE, YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.

SO HOW WOULD SHE ADD THAT TO, UM, THE RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME? I THINK THE SIMPLEST VERSION WOULD BE THAT THE, UM, THERE IS AN AUDIO RECORDING OF THIS.

SO AS I DESCRIBED THEM BEFORE, THAT THE TENANTS WOULD BE INFORMED THAT THE GARAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR PARKING OF VEHICLES AND NO OTHER PURPOSES.

IN ADDITION, THAT THE GUEST PARKING SPACES BE IDENTIFIED AS GUEST PARKING AND MANAGED BY THE A APARTMENT MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

OKAY.

A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HARBOR, CALIFORNIA, MAKING REQUIRED FINDINGS IMPROVE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT 23 DASH ZERO ONE TO MERGE TWO PARCELS INTO A PARCEL AND DESIGN 23 DASH OH TWO TO CONSTRUCT A NINE UNIT THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX KNOWN AS MAGNOLIA VILLAS ON THE PROPERTY'S CURRENT ADDRESS AS OF 8 2 8 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND 1 0 1 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET.

AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AND MAKING THE DETERMINATION THAT THE SUBJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT OF SECTION 1 5 3, 3, 2, CLASS, THREE, TWO INFILL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS OF THE CQA GUIDELINES IN ADDITION TO WITH THE CONDITIONS AT FOUR BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WITH CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

EVERYONE THAT ARE PRESENT, PLEASE INJURE YOUR VOTE.

MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS

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UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE WILL NOW HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MAJA BACK, UH, WITH US MOMENTS.

NO, ALMOST OW.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STEPH? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, UPDATE THE COMMISSION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

WE'LL, UM, BE PRESENTING TO YOU ANOTHER 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR THE COYOTE VILLAGE, UM, PROJECT.

AND, UM, WE'LL BE ALSO ONBOARDING OUR, OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

IS THAT RE IS THAT REORGANIZING? ARE WE, IS THAT REORGANIZING AT THAT MEETING? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OH, GOOD EX, GO AHEAD.

WELL, I DON'T NEED MY GLASSES TO TALK, JUST TO READ.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT ARE COMING THIS WEEKEND FOR, UM, EASTER.

WE HAVE THE, THE NIGHT EGG HUNT AND WE HAVE THE EXTRAVAGANZA, WHICH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS, WEATHER PERMITTING.

BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT WE WERE AT THE, I KNOW SOME OF US WERE AT THE PANCAKE BREAKFAST THIS LAST SATURDAY, AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, LA HABER SHOWS UP EVEN WHEN IT RAINS.

OH YEAH.

I LOVE THAT ABOUT US.

SO LIKE, NEVER CHANGE, JUST KEEP SHOWING UP.

AND I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

AND I PROMISE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE, UM, PROMOTING ART, PUBLIC ART, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

GOOD.

AND CONTINUE YOUR LEGACY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

UM, YES, PLEASE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY FOR VETERANS.

I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WE TALKED WITH MY FORMER DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN I TALKED TO SUSAN WHEN I FIRST CAME.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS I BROUGHT UP WITH HER.

BESIDES OUR I'D LOVE, DEFINITELY LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR VETERANS THAT ARE COMING HOME, YOU KNOW, AND NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TWO IN THE SERVICE, BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT FOR OUR VETERANS.

DEFINITELY.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON ART FOR KIDS WITH DISABILITIES.

I WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.

PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND GUYS.

I I ADDED IT TO VISTA GRANDE PARK.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISABLED, UH, SET SPACE FOR OUR KIDS AT THE PARK.

IT'S THE FIRST ONE IN LAHABRA, SO THAT'S GONNA BE GREAT.

I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I WANT ART AT VISTA.

VISTA GRANDE.

KEEP THAT IN MIND PLEASE.

DEFINITELY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND TO THE COUPLE COME BACK.

COME BACK.

PLEASE COME BACK.

COME TELL US IF THERE'S PARKING ISSUES.

I CAN'T, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE TO CHAMPION THAT.

PLEASE COME BACK.

TELL THEM IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH ANY OF THIS STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S PARKING ISSUES, WE'LL DEFINITELY CHECK ON THE DUMPING THAT WAS DUMPING, UM, UH, OFF OF FIRST STREET AND UH, THIRD STREET.

WE HANDLED A LOT OF THAT.

LET'S HANDLE THIS ALSO.

LET'S DO THAT.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY FROM PLANNING DEPARTMENT, KIND OF GOING THROUGH A BIG CHANGE OVER WHATEVER.

LOOK FOR THESE MEETINGS, COME.

IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

'CAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE'S DUMPING THERE.

I KNEW THERE WAS DUMPING ON, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC AND, AND WALNUT.

WE DON'T KNOW THESE THINGS.

AND IF YOU BRING THEM TO THIS GROUP, THEN WE KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN SAY SOMETHING.

WE CAN SAY, HEY, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS OR THAT.

AND THAT'S, UH, GREAT.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN FUN.

IT REALLY HAS.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

YOU, YOU CAN COME BACK IF YOU'RE HAPPY TOO.

THAT'S OKAY.

, BELIEVE ME.

I'LL BE HERE.

MICHELLE, IT'S BEEN A, A, A GOOD JOURNEY.

HERE WITH YOU, I THINK FOR MOST OF YOUR EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE WITH YOU.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

EIGHT YEARS IS, UM, IS A LONG TIME AND, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT TO BE PROUD OF.

I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY BIG PROJECTS AS SUSAN REFERRED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT OF LONG MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, OVER ZOOM, OVER THE PHONE, OVER IN PERSON, KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND, AND YOU'VE DEFINITELY SEEN IT ALL.

SO YOUR, YOUR PRESENCE WILL BE MISSED AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE BEING HERE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS NOT EASY BEING, I WAS AT CHAIRMAN FOR DURING THE PANDEMIC, THE WHOLE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS I WAS EXTENDED AND THAT WAS HARD, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS CRAZY GOOD.

IT WAS GOOD.

IT GOT THROUGH.

WELL.

THE THING ABOUT THE PANDEMIC IS EVERYONE LEARNED TO PIVOT.

I MEAN, IT WASN'T YOUR, YOUR NORMAL, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY BUSINESS.

IT WASN'T YOUR EVERYDAY, UM, YOU

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KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

I WASN'T PART OF THAT DURING THAT TIME.

I WAS AN OTHER THINGS, BUT I CAN IMAGINE.

AND, UM, YOU GOT US THROUGH IT AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EIGHT YEARS OF HARD DILIGENCE WORK AND, UM, YOUR COMMUNICATION AND YOUR INPUT.

SO WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? IF I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR HEART PUTTING YOUR HEART IN TO THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING CARE FOR LAHABRA.

SO THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

AND IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS, GONNA TELL YOU, YOUR HAIR LOOKS GREAT.

OKAY, , WITH THAT, I ADJOURN THE MEETING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE THAT ATTENDED TONIGHT.