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AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2024 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
WILL THE AUDIENCE STAND AND PLEASE JOIN COMMISSIONER CARDENAS, UM, IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
READY, UH, LEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDERGRAD IN DIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLL CHAIR MANLEY HERE.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA.
PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE ITEMS, ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, OR ANY ITEM NOT APPEARING ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED.
FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? OKAY, HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE.
MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY VICE CHAIR MACHA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARDENAS.
EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LECTERN.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER'S CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGE BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
TONIGHT'S FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS FOR TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER 1 9 2 6 2, UH, TTM 24 DASH 0 0 0 3 TO ALLOW A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES AND DESIGN REVIEW 24 DASH 0 1 2 TO CONSTRUCT EIGHT DWELLING UNITS INCLUDING ONE AFFORDABLE UNIT AT 5 25 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD.
ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER 3 0 3 1 2 5 1 8.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
MR. CHAIR, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A STAFF REPORT?
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR AND GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LA HABER BOULEVARD, JUST EAST OF THE CYPRESS STREET INTERSECTION AND CONSISTS OF A SINGLE PARCEL OF JUST UNDER 0.3 ACRES.
THE SITE CURRENTLY FEATURES A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING SINGLE UNIT RESIDENCE THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1911 AND IS SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL COMPLEXES.
WAIT, DO WE NEED A NEW BATTERY, YOU THINK? TIMEOUT, PLEASE.
IS IT WORKING? I THINK, I THINK THE RIGHT BUTTON IS JUST NOT WORKING PROPERLY.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO RE REDEVELOP THIS SITE WITH A TOWN HOME COMPLEX CONSISTING OF EIGHT TWO BEDROOM FOR SALE UNITS.
THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES, UM, IT INCLUDES TWO BUILDINGS, FOUR UNITS EACH ALONG A CENTRAL DRIVEWAY.
UH, WITH ACCESS TO AND FROM LAHABRA BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT HAS OPTED TO UTILIZE THE STATE'S DENSITY BONUS LAW BY ALLOCATING ONE OF THE UNITS UNIT NUMBER SIX, TO BE SOLD TO A MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD.
THE DENSITY BONUS LAW ALSO GRANTS THE APPLICANT A REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS REDUCED BUILDING STANDARDS THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE IMPEDED THE DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED.
PER THE DENSITY BONUS LAW, TWO BEDROOM UNITS ARE SUBJECT TO ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES FOR RESIDENCE WITH NO REQUIREMENT FOR A GARAGE OR GUEST PARKING.
THE APPLICANT HAS, HOWEVER, OPTED TO PROVIDE TWO ATTACHED GARAGE SPACES PER UNIT.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE TWO DEDICATED GUEST PARKING SPACES AT THE REAR OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS AN A DA ACCESSIBLE SPACE ADJACENT TO THE A DA ACCESSIBLE UNIT.
ALSO, AS PART OF THE DENSITY BONUS, THE APPLICANT IS ELIGIBLE FOR A REDUCTION IN SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
SO MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE LA HABER BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN ARE SUBJECT TO SETBACKS OF 15 FEET IN THE FRONT AND FIRST FLOOR.
SETBACKS OF 10 FEET ALONG THE SIDES AND IN THE REAR SECOND FLOOR, SETBACKS ALONG THE SIDES AND REAR MUST BE 15 FEET.
WHILE THE FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO REDUCE THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR SIDE SETBACKS FROM THE REQUIRED 15 FEET TO 10 FEET, ALIGNING THE UPPER FLOOR SETBACKS WITH THE FIRST FLOOR.
THIS REDUCED SETBACK WILL ALLOW FOR MORE INTERIOR SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH OF THE UNITS.
544 SQUARE FEET OF COMMON OPEN SPACE IS PROPOSED AT THE REAR CORNERS OF THE SITE AND SATISFIES THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 400 SQUARE FEET.
AMENITIES INCLUDE A COMMUNAL BARBECUE AREA AS WELL AS PATIO SEATING AND A FIRE PIT.
AS PART OF THE DENSITY BONUS, THE APPLICANT IS ELIGIBLE FOR REDUCED PRIVATE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED LAYOUT PROVIDES 45 SQUARE FEET OF FIRST FLOOR PATIO SPACE, A REDUCTION FROM THE 96 SQUARE FEET REQUIRED, AND THE LAYOUT ALSO PROVIDES 30 SQUARE FOOT, SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR BALCONIES.
A REDUCTION FROM THE 70 SQUARE FEET REQUIRED.
THE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE SITE FEATURES A VARIETY OF TREES AND SHRUBS THAT ARE WELL SUITED TO THE LOCAL CLIMATE
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LAGGERS TROIA TREES AND DATE PALMS ARE PROPOSED ALONG THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD FRONTAGE, LAMONDRE BOGAN VIA AND RIVERHOUSE BLUE TREES ARE PLACED ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.THE LANDSCAPE PLANNERS AT EACH OF THE NORTHERN CORNERS OF THE SITE CONTAIN CLUSTERS OF HACIENDA, CREEPER, AND GULFSTREAM SHRUBS.
AND OUTSIDE EACH OF THE ENTRANCES TO THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS ARE HARMONY, COASTAL GYM, AND GIANT BIRD OF PARADISE TREES.
THE EXISTING SIX FOOT TALL CMU WALLS ALONG THE EASTERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN AS IS AND THE PROJECT HAS BEEN CONDITIONED TO REMOVE THE WOODEN FENCE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE SITE AND REPLACE IT WITH A CONTINUATION OF THE CMU WALL AS REQUIRED BY THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE ARCHITECTURE FEATURES A SPANISH INFLUENCED DESIGN WITH EARTH TONE STUCCO, A BROWN CLAY TILE, ROOF WROUGHT IRON ACCENTS, AND AWNINGS ON THE BALCONIES AND ARCH DESIGN ELEMENTS.
WHILE BOTH BUILDINGS ARE FAIRLY IDENTICAL, THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ARE OF THE WEST BUILDING WITH THE TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT THERE BETWEEN UNITS SIX AND EIGHT.
UM, EACH OF THE UNITS FEATURES A SIMILAR OVERALL LAYOUT WITH TWO BEDROOMS, A TWO CAR ATTACHED GARAGE, AND AN OPEN CONCEPT FLOOR PLAN.
THE GROUND FLOOR OF EACH UNIT FEATURES THE TWO CAR GARAGE AND HOOKUPS FOR THE IN UNIT WASHER AND DRYER.
UNIT NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS A DA ACCESSIBLE, ALSO FEATURES A HALF BATHROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
ON THE SECOND FLOOR IS THE KITCHEN, THE DINING AREA, THE LIVING ROOM, AND A HALF BATH, A HALF BATHROOM.
ON THE THIRD FLOOR ARE TWO BEDROOMS AND TWO FULL BATHROOMS. UNITS NUMBER SEVEN AND EIGHT ALSO INCLUDE A DEN.
AS MENTIONED, THE SITE CURRENTLY FEATURES A NON-CONFORMING SINGLE UNIT RESIDENCE, AND THIS PROPOSED EIGHT UNIT TOWN HOME COM TOWN HOME COMPLEX WILL REDEVELOP THE SITE WITH AN ALLOWABLE USE AS ENVISIONED BY THE LAHABRA BOULEVARD SPECIFIC PLAN, WHILE ALSO INCLUDING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS PROJECT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU.
COMMISSIONER SLAND? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER CARDENAS? YEAH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN ONCE AGAIN HOW UM, THE TRASH TRUCK WOULD GO IN TO PICK UP THE TRASH OR WHERE WOULD THAT WOULD BE LOCATED? SURE.
I'M GONNA GO SIT OVER THERE IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO, OH, YOU PASSED IT? NO, IT'S HERE.
SO WE CAN, THIS MIGHT BE EASIER.
I WILL SHOW YOU ON THE SIDE PLAN.
SO THE TRASH ACCESS IS HERE, SO, OH, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, IF YOU CAN SEE, SO THIS IS WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE AND THE TRASH TRUCK WILL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS, RIGHT? IT'S ON THE LEFT OR ON THE WEST BUILDING.
UM, IN BETWEEN UNIT SIX AND EIGHT AT THE BACK.
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IT'S WHERE THOSE DOUBLE DOORS ARE.SO, UM, THE TRASH TRUCK WOULD ENTER THE COMPLEX AND GET THE BINS OUT AND THEN TAKE CARE OF THE TRASH MATTERS AND THEN COME BACK OUT.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.
SO TO CONFIRM, IS THERE ANY ACCESS FROM THE ALLEYWAY? NO, THERE WILL BE NO MORE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEYWAY.
UH, CURRENTLY THERE'S A WOODEN FENCE AND WE'VE CONDITIONED THE PROJECT FOR THAT FENCE TO BE REMOVED AND, UM, REPLACED WITH A CMU WALL.
WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO DO TRASH COLLECTION IF THERE WAS INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE ALLEYWAY AS WELL? THERE'S CURRENTLY NO ACCESS.
WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER IN THIS PROJECT IF THERE WAS A WAY TO GET IN AND OUT THROUGH THE ALLEY AS WELL? IT COULD BE AN OPTION.
THE ENGINEERING TEAM WOULD HAVE TO ALSO ANALYZE.
OH, YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE TRASH TRUCK TO ENTER THE PROPERTY FROM THAT SIDE? NO, THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
INSTEAD OF DOING A THREE POINT TURN OR A IN, YOU KNOW, IN ONE WAY BACKING OUT THE OTHER WAY, IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER IF IT COULD JUST GO STRAIGHT THROUGH.
RIGHT? WE CAN, WE CAN MODIFY THAT AND FOR ALL THE CARS ACTUALLY, WHAT WAS THAT? I MEAN, FOR ALL THE VEHICLES IT WOULD BE EASIER THAT WAY.
OH, FOR A, FOR TO PROVIDE FULL ACCESS FROM THE ALLEYWAY? YEAH, THAT COULD BE A MODIFICATION.
UM, THAT WASN'T WHAT WAS PROPOSED, BUT IT COULD, UM, WE COULD CONDITION THE PROJECT FOR A GATE AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE, UM, FOR TENANT ACCESS, GUEST ACCESS, AS WELL AS TRASH.
UM, IF, IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT, UM, PERHAPS WE CAN DEFER TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL BEFORE COMMITTING TO A CONDITION.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AT THIS TIME JUST DIS DISCUSSION, UM, AND, AND CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMISSIONER CARDENAS, DID THAT HELP YOU? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.
COMMISSIONER GOMEZ? NO QUESTIONS.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UH, SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL HEAR FROM ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED ITEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
YOU, YOU CAN IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
I, UM, I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE OWNERS.
COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? YEAH, MY NAME IS REAGAN YAPP.
COULD YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME PLEASE? YAP.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, REGARDING THIS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, FOR A WHILE.
AND, UH, WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR, UM, GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THIS PROCESS.
AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE, THE COUNCIL, UH, CONSIDERING THIS, UM, PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY, UH, IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UM, WITH THE, UH, LOW INCOME COMPONENT ADDED TO IT.
SO, MR. YAP, A A QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT POSSIBLY PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FROM, FROM THE ALLEYWAY AS WELL.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YES, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA.
WE, WE'D BE VERY OPEN TO THAT.
IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS, YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY CALL ON YOU.
IF THERE ARE, UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? GO AHEAD.
SO I SEE A LOT OF CONCRETE HERE,
THE DESIGN IS BEAUTIFUL AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT SOMEBODY'S PLANNING TO PUT SOMETHING IN HERE THAT WILL BE CONTINUOUS WITH WHAT SEEMS LIKE WHAT ELSE IS ON THE STREET RIGHT BY IT.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE GREEN 'CAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF CONCRETE.
I MEAN, AND WE WANT, OR I, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JUST A, A PREFERENCE ACTUALLY, BUT IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE
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LANDSCAPING, A LITTLE BIT MORE GREEN? YES.UM, I, WE'VE CONSULTED WITH OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ABOUT DOING, UM, IMPERVIOUS, UH, PAVERS, SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME GRASS COMPONENTS TO IT.
UM, OUR ONLY KIND OF WORRY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME A DA ISSUES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE YES.
AND NOT A LOT OF SETBACK ROOM, BUT YEAH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN SIGN.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? MAYBE JUST, JUST YOU TONIGHT.
UM, IN CASE THERE'S ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM ITEM, GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I, I'D BE INCLINED TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING UNLESS WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
SO I DO, I DO HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
SO ON, ON THE, THE TRASH IS, IS EACH UNIT GONNA HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL CONTAINERS OR IS EVERYBODY TAKING THEIR TRASH STRAIGHT TO THE DUMPSTER? UM, I'LL ALSO LET THE APPLICANTS, UM, CHIME IN ON THAT, BUT IT IS A, IT'S GONNA BE A SINGLE DUMPSTER WHERE THE, UM, ALL THE TENANTS GO AND DISPOSE OF THEIR TRASH ON THE RECYCLING.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO SELF-CONTAINED DUMPSTER OR CONTAINER FOR, FOR EACH UNIT, IT'S JUST KIND OF TAKE YOUR BAG OF TRASH CORRECT.
TO THE DUMPSTER? WE, WE'VE, UM, COORDINATED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THEY WANTED IT, SO WE WENT WITH THAT.
BUT WE WERE AMENABLE TO BOTH ACTUALLY.
YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD.
AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY DISCUSSION AND OR A MOTION.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING? I LIKE THE PROJECT.
I THINK THAT PERHAPS THERE SHOULD BE INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM THE ALLEYWAY FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
ONE BEING IT'LL MAKE TRASH COLLECTION EASIER.
TWO, I MEAN, I'M THINKING IN CASES OF EMERGENCY.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK IT JUST STILL BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR WHOEVER'S GONNA BE LIVING THERE TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO DO A THREE POINT TURN EVERY TIME THEY WANNA GET IN AND OUT OR IT'S JUST A PRACTICAL MATTER, BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
I'M ALWAYS GONNA WANNA SEE MORE PLANTS,
WHAT IS, UM, WHAT'S JUST NORTH OF, OF THE PROPERTY? ASH? UH, JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS AN ALLEY.
UH, AS WELL AS SINGLE FA OR, UM, MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE'S, YEAH, IT'S, IT ESSENTIALLY MULTI-UNIT RES RESIDENTIAL ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SITE.
SO RIGHT ABOVE THAT GREEN LINE ON THE TOP SIDE IS THE ALLEYWAY? CORRECT.
NOW ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, THE TOP LEFT PART OF THE GREEN MM-HMM,
IS THAT A BLOCK WALL THERE THAT DOES THE ALLEY? KIND OF DEAD ENDS THERE.
AND ARE YOU AWARE OF TRASH COLLECTION FOR THOSE UNITS NORTH OF THE PROPERTY? IS THAT DONE THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY OR MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT THERE? OKAY, SO I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT ON THE STREET VIEW THERE WERE TRASH CANS IN THAT ALLEYWAY IN THE ALLEY.
AM I ALLOWED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I AM A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THE TRASH COLLECTION IN THIS AREA? IT'S DONE BOTH IN THE ALLEY AND IN THE STREET.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PUT YOUR TRASH IN THE ALLEYWAY OR IN THE STREETS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, UM, HAS SOME ACCESS THERE COMING FROM THE ALLEY INTO IT.
IS, IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING THERE, ASH? UM, IS IT, OH, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SQUARE, THE GREEN SQUARE, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SQUARE, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY RIGHT THERE? NO, NO, THE, THE, UH, SO THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF THE GREEN SQUARE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S KIND OF A TURN IN FROM THE ALLEY INTO SOME SORT OF A DRIVEWAY, OR MAYBE THAT'S JUST A PARKING SPOT? UH, IT'S A PARKING SPOT.
I, I MEAN MAYBE BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, I, YOU GUYS CAN DEFINITELY MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE.
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UM, BUT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MODIFICATION, VICE CHAIR MECHAS SEEMS IN FAVOR OF, OF THAT, UM, MINERVA, UH, COMMISSIONER GOMEZ CARD.RAMSON, ANY THOUGHTS? OR WE CAN JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO MOTIONS? I'M GOOD WITH GOING WITH THE MOTION.
UM, I LIKE THE WHAT YOU PROPOSED COMMISSIONER, MY HEADSHOT.
UM, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALSO UTILIZING THE RESOURCES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, IT ACTUALLY WOULD BENEFIT EVERYONE LIVING THERE PROBABLY.
AND IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT YOU WOULD OPEN IT UP EVEN JUST FOR AN EMERGENCY SITUATION ALSO.
IS THERE AN APRON THERE ALREADY? WHAT WAS THAT? IS THERE AN APRON, LIKE AN ACCESS DRIVEWAY APRON, UM, THERE ALREADY ON THE ALLEYWAY INTO THE SITE? UM, IT IS, IT'S LEVEL WHERE THAT FENCE IS, RIGHT? UM, I, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULDN'T REMEMBER.
IT'S BARELY A FENCE IN THE BACK.
UH, THERE'S A, YOU GUYS WANNA ADD A CONDITION? I WAS DRAFTING ONE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.
UM, WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY HEAR A DRAFT OF THAT AND THEN GO FROM THERE, ASH.
UH, MY DRAFT IS WE'LL CONDITION 24.
A REMOTE OPERATED GATE SHALL BE INCLUDED IN THE CMU BLOCK WALL TO BE INSTALLED AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE.
NOW THAT MIGHT BE MORE DETAIL THAN WE WENT INTO WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND, AND, AND WITH THE COMMISSION.
SO, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU, DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT, FEEL ABOUT THAT? CHAIRMAN MANLEY IS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE TO CAUTION BY MAYBE ADDING SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF AS FEASIBLE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE COULD BE AN ENGINEERING REASON OR A SANITATION REASON WHY THIS MAY NOT WORK.
I DON'T KNOW OF ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT BLOCKING OURSELVES INTO SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT, IN, IN ADDITION, REALLY THINKING THROUGH WHETHER YOU WANT THAT TO BE GATED OR NOT, OR REMOTE OR NOT.
MAYBE AGAIN, AS FEASIBLE YEAH.
AS GATED OR, OR NOT ALTOGETHER.
I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE ACCESS.
UM, I, I COULD TAKE OR LEAVE THE GATE FRANKLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD DEFER PROBABLY TO THE APPLICANT AND TO THE STAFF ON THAT AND ENGINEERING AND ALL OF THAT.
SO, I MEAN, DO YOU, WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION.
I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
SO
UM, BUT I, I ALSO AM IN FAVOR OF THE ACCESS.
I DON'T, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY THINK OF GOING AS FAR AS REQUIRING AS, YOU KNOW, MAKING A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A GATE.
I, I PREFER TO USE, UM, LANGUAGE THAT IS A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING.
UM, WOULD, WOULD WE LIKE TO CALL IT SECONDARY ACCESS AS OPPOSED TO A GATE? OKAY.
SO WHERE'S THAT? I, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK IT INTO THE RECORD AGAIN.
GOSH, MAY I SUGGEST THE LANGUAGE? SURE.
THE APPLICANT'S FINAL BUILDING PLANS SHALL INCLUDE A SECONDARY VEHICULAR ACCESS GATE TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMITS.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE CITY ATTORNEY IF WE JUST MADE A, A MOTION AND REFERENCED THE LANGUAGE FROM SONYA? YES, MR. CHAIR? I THINK YOUR MOTION CAN JUST SAY, APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH WITH THE CONDITION AS OUTLINED, THE ADDED CONDITION AS OUTLINED BY THE PLANNING MANAGER.
MR. CHAIRS, I HAVE A QUESTION 'CAUSE I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS.
THAT LAST CONDITION STILL SAID GAIT.
I THOUGHT THE CONSENSUS WAS AS, AS FEASIBLE.
WELL, I OR JUST NOT EVEN REQUIRE A GATE AT ALL.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS.
AM I NOT HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? SO I HAD STATED A CONDITION TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY VEHICULAR ACCESS
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GATE TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE I UNDER I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT JUST ACCESS.NOBODY'S SEEMS TO WANNA REQUIRE A GATE AND THAT'S, SO SONIA, I THINK IT COULD BE THE SAME EXACT THING, BUT WITHOUT THE WORD GATE, WITHOUT THE, THAT IT JUST SECONDARY ACCESS AS FEASIBLE.
AND I, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO BOX THE APPLICANT INTO A GATE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT ALL, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT.
UM, NOW THEY MAY DETERMINE AT SOME POINT FOR PRIVACY OR FOR SAFETY, THEY MAY WANT TO ADD A GATE THERE AND I DON'T WANT TO, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIKE PROHIBIT THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO SO.
SO AS LONG AS THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN THE MODIFICATION FOR THAT, I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I LAND.
AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH, AT THAT POINT WITH BUILDING CODES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY CAN ADD A GATE ANYTIME THEY WANT.
THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONSENSUS IS.
WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT FOR THE MODIFICATION TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.
TANYA, WOULD YOU READ THE, I'M SORRY, CONDITION WITHOUT THE WORD GATE? OKAY.
THE APPLICANT'S FINAL BUILDING PLANS SHALL INCLUDE A SECONDARY VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA, MAKING THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACK MAT NUMBER 1 9 2 6 2 TTM 24 DASH 0 0 0 3 TO ALLOW A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES AND DESIGN REVIEW.
24 DASH ZERO 12 TO CONSTRUCT EIGHT DWELLING UNITS, INCLUDING ONE AFFORDABLE UNIT AT 5 25 EAST LA HAPER BOULEVARD, ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER 3 0 3 DASH 1 25 DASH 18, INCLUDING CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARD REDUCTIONS PURSUANT TO THE STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THAT WHICH WAS JUST READ IN THE RECORD AND MAKING THE DETERMINATION THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 5 3 3 2 CLASS 32 INFILL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS OF THE CA GUIDELINES.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY VICE CHAIRMAN MACHA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SLAND.
EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO CONSIDERATION ITEMS. ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE MAY REQUEST TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY CONSIDERATION.
I ITEM PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION'S TAKING THE FINAL VOTE ON THE ITEM.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER CONSIDERATION ITEM, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
TONIGHT'S CONSIDERATION ITEM IS APPOINTMENT OF A PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO SERVE ON THE CITY OF LA HARE'S CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AD HOC PLANNING COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING.
SONYA LOUIE, PLANNING MANAGER.
THE SEN CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AD HOC PLANNING COMMITTEE INCLUDES 23 MEMBERS WITH VARYING BACKGROUNDS AND COMMUNITY ROLES.
OF COURSE, ONE OF THESE IMPORTANT ROLES AS SPECIFIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO INCLUDE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ASSIST CITY STAFF WITH EXTENSIVE PLANNING AND PREPARATION OF THE CENTENNIAL KICKOFF, WHICH IS SLATED FOR JANUARY, 2025.
AS A COMMISSION MAY RECALL, UH, CARRIE CRICH WAS DESIGNATED THE AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER BACK IN SEPTEMBER, 2023.
HOWEVER, UM, MS. RICH VACATED HER SEAT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION UPON BEING APPOINTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
AS A RESULT, STAFF'S REQUESTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION SELECT A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COMMITTEE.
AND THIS APPOINTMENT IS OPEN TO ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER RAMS LYNN BECAUSE HE IS CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE
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AS A REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTED BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION
AM I ALLOWED TO SAY THAT? YEAH.
UM, WE CAN OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER DAN CARDENA.
UM, I THINK SHE'D MAKE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CENTENNIAL COMMITTEE AND I KNOW THAT, UM, I'M ALREADY OVER COMMITTED AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE UP ON THIS DIOCESE THAT PROBABLY ARE OVER COMMITTED ALREADY.
SO THAT'S MY REASON FOR NOMINATION.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR NOMINATIONS? I WOULD, UH, I'D DEFINITELY BE IN AGREEMENT OF THAT.
UM, SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS, I, I THINK IT'D BE FAIR TO ASK THE SECRETARY TO TAKE A TALLY ON COMMISSIONER CARDENAS NOMINATION.
UH, IS SHE ACCEPT IF SHE WOULD BE ACCEPTED ACCEPTING OF THAT, I WOULD GLADLY ACCEPT.
CAN I HAVE YOU ENTER YOUR VOTES? SURE.
COMMISSIONER, UH, CARDENA TO THE COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NONE TONIGHT.
ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL TO PLEASE COME AND CELEBRATE VETERANS DAY WITH US ON NOVEMBER 11TH AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
UM, FROM 11 TO 12, WE HAVE A CEREMONY.
WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, HONORING A HUNDRED YEAR OLD VETERAN THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, WE DON'T PUTS THIS ON THE FLYER, BUT THE LA HA HOST ALLIANCE ARE MAKING BREAKFAST.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024.