[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2024 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
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WHATCHA TRYING? MAKE IT F*****G, AND THEN YOU, YOU OFFER ME A MINT JUST TO LIKE, COVER YOURSELF
AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
I WOULD INVITE THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER CARDENAS IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
READY? AGAIN? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, INDIVISIBLE, IN LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLE CHAIR MANLEY HERE.
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER GOMEZ HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE THIS EVENING.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA.
PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE ITEMS, ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, OR ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT APPEARING ON THE AGENDA? SO ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NO, THIS, THIS MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT TIME.
SO IF YOU, ARE YOU HERE FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS TONIGHT, SIR? OKAY.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT.
UM, SO SEEING NO ONE HERE FOR ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED.
ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? GOOD? NO.
SO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS CONSENT CALENDAR.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION MADE BY VICE CHAIRMAN HEA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAMSON? EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD AND YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ME.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER'S CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL
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PUBLIC COMMENTS.FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
TONIGHT'S FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2024 DASH 1 1 1 TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, ONE PH 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 TO ALLOW FOR THE SUBDIVISION OF A 14,450 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE SINGLE UNIT DWELLING ON EACH LOT ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 800 NORTH TROPICANA WAY.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
MR. CHAIR, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES.
UH, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
I AM AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER HERE AND I WILL BE PRESENTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 2024 DASH 11.
THE APPLICANT DEN IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP TO ALLOW FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 800 NORTH TROPICANA AWAY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST WHITTIER BOULEVARD AND TROPICANA WAY, AS SHOWN THE SURROUNDING PARCELS ON ALL SIDES OF THE PROJECT ARE ZONED R ONE B AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE UNIT DWELLINGS.
RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECT PARCEL SIZE IS ROUGHLY DOUBLE THAT OF THE NEIGHBORING PARCELS.
IF THIS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP MOVES FORWARD, IT WILL RESULT IN TWO LOTS THAT WILL BE SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS R ONE B AND THE GENERAL PLANNED USE DESIGNATION IS LOW DENSITY.
THE EXISTING PARCEL SIZE IS 14,450 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE PAR PARCEL MAP, UH, WOULD CREATE TWO PARCELS THAT WOULD PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ONE SINGLE UNIT DWELLING ON EACH PARCEL AT A DENSITY OF SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
THIS DENSITY IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM OF EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ALLOWED.
UNDER THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SPLIT THE LOT IN HALF TO CREATE TWO ROUGHLY EQUAL SIZED PROPERTIES.
PROPOSED PARCEL ONE WOULD BE SIZED 7,248 SQUARE FEET WITH 62.56 FEET OF LOT FRONTAGE WHILE PROPOSED PARCEL TWO WOULD BE SIZED 7,202 SQUARE FEET WITH 63.44 FEET OF FRONT LOT DITCH.
PURSUANT TO THE LA HABER MUNICIPAL CODE, THE MINIMUM LAW AREA REQUIRED IN THE R ONE B ZONE IS 7,200 SQUARE FEET AND THE MINIMUM LOT FRONTAGE WIDTH IS 60 FEET.
THE EXISTING SINGLE UNIT DWELLING WILL BE PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED AND MODIFIED TO ENSURE THAT NO PORTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL BE CROSSING THE PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TONIGHT FOR THE MAP ONLY IF APPROVED.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT DEVELOPMENT PLANS WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED PLANS TO DEMONSTRATE THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON EACH PARCEL AND CONFIRM THAT SAID DEVELOPMENT WOULD CONFORM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE R ONE B ZONE.
IF THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO SUBSEQUENTLY SUBMIT COMPLETE BUILDING PLANS FOR THESE DWELLING UNITS, WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED BY PLANNING STAFF FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAHABRA MUNICIPAL CODE.
DURING PLAN, CHECK REVIEW, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP TO SUBDIVIDE THE EXISTING 14,450 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL INTO TWO TWO LOTS SIZED 7,248 SQUARE FEET AND 7,202 SQUARE FEET.
BEFORE CONCLUDING MY PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE COMMISSION THAT STAFF HAS PREPARED A REVISED RESOLUTION FOR CLARITY ONLY, UH, PROJECT SPECIFIC CONDITION 11 WAS REVISED TO REQUIRE THAT ONLY THE REQUIRED PORTIONS OF THE EXISTING DWELLING ARE DEMOLISHED INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE DWELLING PRIOR TO THE RECORDATION OF THE FINAL MAP.
AND GENERAL CONDITION 1.1 HAS ALSO BEEN MODIFIED AT THE REQUEST OF THE ATTORNEY.
THESE CHANGES HAVE BEEN REFLECTED IN THE MODIFIED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I CAN CONFIRM THAT THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE, UM, A COPY OF THAT MODIFIED RESOLUTION WITH US THIS EVENING.
UH, AT THIS TIME I WILL TURN TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF.
UM, COMMISSIONER SLAND, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER CARDENAS? NO QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, IS THIS THE BORDER OF LAHABRA CITY? CORRECT? YEAH, THIS IS RIGHT ON THE BORDER.
SO THE, THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS NOT HAMBRA CITY ANYMORE, CORRECT? RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE EAST IS BREA.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THAT IS ALSO LOW DENSITY.
AND WHAT IS THE TYPICAL SIZE OF THE SURROUNDING LOTS? SO, UM, THE TYPICAL SIZE IS AROUND THAT 7,200.
UM, THEY'RE ALL ROUGHLY THE SAME SIZE ON THE LAHABRA SIDE.
UM, I GUESS WHAT I, I I WAS WONDERING IF
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THIS PLOT IS BIGGER THAN THE, YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE ANSWERED THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA GET CLEAR, UH, A CLEARER ANSWER.SO IF WE'RE, I'M LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAP THAT WE HAVE ON THE DIAZ HERE, OVER HERE, AND IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THIS LOT IS ALREADY TWICE AS BIG AS ALL THE OTHER LOTS.
UM, JACOB, YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UM, JUST THAT NUMBER 7,200, UH, AT, AT SOME POINT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT STATEMENT WAS? YEAH, SO THAT'S THE, UM, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN OUR R ONE B ZONE IS THAT 7,200 SQUARE FEET.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AT THIS TIME.
UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, FIRST WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION FOLLOWED BY ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
SO IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO DO SO.
AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.
SO NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM, AGAIN, PLEASE COME TO THE, THE PODIUM NOW AND, UM, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS CARDS IF YOU WANT.
WHO'S OUR FIRST SPEAKER? BIBI NEGRETE.
MADAM SECRETARY, COULD YOU PLEASE SPELL THAT? N-E-G-R-E-T-E.
IF IT'S OKAY, I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO KIM MORRIS TO GO FIRST.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE MAILERS THAT WERE SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED THEM, UH, RIGHT AROUND NOVEMBER 1ST REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
UM, ACTUALLY AS A RESIDENT, I'M AT 8 5 0 TROPICANA WAY, JUST A FEW HOUSES DOWN FROM THAT.
AND AS IT WAS POINTED OUT, WE ARE LITERALLY RIGHT ON THE BORDER WITH, WITH BREA.
AND, UH, UH, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I AM NEITHER FOR NOR AGAINST IT AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE I'M JUST NOW LEARNING OF WHAT THE DETAILS ARE OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
UH, GIVEN THAT, UM, WE, WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PREPARE, UH, TO, TO TAKE THIS ALL IN AND FIGURE OUT OR WHAT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT.
JUST A FEW THINGS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I WAS THINKING OF.
UH, THE, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC USE, UH, BY HAVING TWO, UH, DWELLINGS ON THIS, THIS, UH, PROPERTY, UH, IS ONE, UH, THE INCREASE IN POPULATION DENSITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S ALSO THE CITY OF LA HABER'S AESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS A LOW DENSITY AREA OF THE CITY AND, UH, FOR, FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE WITHIN FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES IN A RADIUS OF THAT, OF, OF THIS PROPERTY, WE CHOSE TO LIVE THERE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
THERE'S ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT WATER ISSUES AND ALL OF THAT.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, UH, CQA COMPLIANCE WAS MET, SO THAT'S GREAT.
STATE AND FEDERAL CONCERNS HAVE BEEN MET.
UH, BUT WE JUST HAVE CONCERNS AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WE JUST, UM, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ANY, UH, ANY EFFECTS THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT OCCUR AT AFTERWARDS.
NOT SURE IF THE, UM, IF, IF THE BOARD IS AWARE, UH, THIS IS AN OFFSITE OWNER THAT DOES NOT LIVE AT THE PROPERTY.
THEY ARE USING IT CURRENTLY TO RENT TO, UH, UH, TO, TO OTHER PEOPLE.
AND THAT DOUBLING ITS USE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE, WE SUSPECT IS TO SIMPLY INCREASE THE, UH, THE, UH, ITS USE AS A RENTAL PROPERTY TO NOW BE ABLE TO RENT TWO, UH, PE TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.
AND WE'RE JUST CONCERNED IS THIS, IS THIS USE IN KEEPING WITH THE CITY'S AESTHETIC STANDARDS, UM, AS
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OUTLINED, UH, ON, ON, ON THE WEBSITE THAT LITERALLY THIS IS, THESE ARE JUST THOUGHTS COMING THROUGH MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING IS TO HAVE SOME TIME TO CONSIDER THIS, UM, AND, UH, UH, TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSAL AND ALSO THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I, I YIELD TO THE NEXT PERSON.
HI, IS, IS THAT MS. NEGRETI? YES.
AND I AM JUST GONNA SECOND WHAT MR. MORRIS SAID, AND WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING AND, UH, GO FROM THERE.
MS. RETTI, COULD YOU CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER A ROWE, ROE.
UH, AGAIN, I'M A, I'M A RESIDENT, UH, 900 TROPICANA WAY.
UH, JUST A FEW HOUSES AWAY FROM, FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I, I RECEIVED THE, THE NOTIFICATION IN THE MAIL AND I, I'M ACTUALLY COME, CAME HERE TONIGHT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WHERE THE PROCESS WAS OR HOW THE PROCESS IS HANDLED.
SO I'D LIKE TO, AGAIN, AS WITH MY OTHER NEIGHBORS, HAVE TIME TO DIGEST THIS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? RN, IF THERE ARE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, UM, IN OPPOSITION OF THE ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.
AT THIS TIME, IF, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO OFFER ANY SORT OF REBUTTAL OR ANY FINAL REMARKS, THEY'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.
SEEING THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN, I WOULD, UH, TURN TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION.
A MOTION COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER RAMS LAND.
UM, THE POINTS THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS BRING UP ARE, ARE PRETTY COMMON, UH, FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN EVERYBODY'S NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UM, THIS, THIS PARCEL COULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AS TWO SEPARATE PARCELS IN 1959, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR HERE ISN'T ANYTHING REALLY UNCOMMON OR UNUSUAL, UM, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IN ORDER TO DO THIS MAP AND MAKE THIS SUBDIVISION, THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FINDINGS THAT MUST BE MADE THAT ARE ALL LISTED IN THE, UH, MUNICIPAL CODE.
AND THERE'S A SERIES OF EIGHT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OF, UM, THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ALL THOSE FINDINGS.
AND AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ACTUAL, UM, CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE OF WHY WE COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
AND ALSO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO TELL LANDOWNERS WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THEIR LAND AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW.
UM, IN THIS REGARD, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO ADDRESS THE, THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTIES, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO HAVE RENTAL PROPERTIES OF ALL SORTS OF SIZES AND, YOU KNOW, CONFIGURATIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE COULDN'T EVEN REJECT IT ON THAT BASIS EITHER IF WE WERE SO INCLINED, UM, WHICH I'M NOT, BECAUSE IT TAKES ALL KINDS TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, REGARDING EXTENSION AS THEY'RE ASKING, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? WHAT ARE THE RULES REGARDING THAT? WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF STAFF CLARIFICATION.
WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, YOU, YOU COULD, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST, WELL, TWO WEEKS IS THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE IDEAL.
SO MAYBE THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.
BUT THAT DOES PUT TIME ON THE APPLICANT THAT,
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YOU KNOW, THEY HOLD THE PROPERTY FOR THAT TIME.THEY'VE SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION, THE FINDINGS TO APPROVE THIS HAVE BEEN MADE AS FAR AS STAFF HAS FOUND.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK COULD BE GAINED BY EXTENDING IT AT TWO WEEKS? BECAUSE, WELL, THAT'S, I'LL JUMP IN ROY.
I THINK, UM, NOTHING, I, I, I DON'T THINK TWO WEEKS, UH, CHANGES ANYTHING.
I, I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND EMPATHIZE AS A PROPERTY OWNER MYSELF WITH THE, THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE RAISED.
UM, BUT THE FINDINGS WON'T CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS.
THE FINDINGS WON'T CHANGE IN TWO MONTHS.
UM, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
AND I THINK LIKE VICE CHAIRMAN MACHA, UH, STATED, YOU KNOW, UNDER FEDERAL STATE AND CITY MUNI MUNICIPAL CODE, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE A PERSONAL DETERMINATION ON, ON IF WE THINK THAT THAT IS OKAY OR NOT, YOU KNOW, DOES IT, DOES IT MAKE THE FINDINGS? AND THE ANSWER IS YES.
UM, I CAN DEFINITELY, AS AN ASIDE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF E EMPATHIZE AGAIN WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON WANTING MORE UNDERSTANDING OR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT MAY HAPPEN.
AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, VICE CHAIRMAN HECHE STATED THAT THE, THE APPLICANT, THE PROPERTY OWNER COULD PROBABLY HELP WITH THAT, UM, BUT HAS NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
SO, UM, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THE ITEM.
I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, AN EXTENSION OF ANY SORT, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE FINDINGS WOULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THOSE IN OPPOSITION MIGHT MAYBE LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT.
UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN TRUE.
UH, I, I THINK THE STAFF REPORT WAS, WAS PRETTY CLEAR.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY HAPPEN WITH THE PROPERTY.
IF DEVELOPMENT DOES HAPPEN ON BOTH OF THOSE PARCELS, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE STEPS THAT, THAT IN, YOU KNOW, COULD ENTAIL.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A TIME WHERE THE, THE NEIGHBORS COULD RAISE SOME CONCERNS WITH THOSE ITEMS. UM, BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO DETERMINE IF IT, IF IT MEETS THOSE FINDINGS, AND THE ANSWER IS YES.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
I I HAVE A QUESTION FROM STEPH OR FOR STAFF, UM, BECAUSE I, I'M IN AGREEMENT FOR WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS NOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PROBABLY COMING DOWN THE LINE.
NOW THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS TO CLARIFY FOR THEM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AT THE POINT WHERE THERE'S STARTING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING, UM, WILL IT, IT MAY NOT COME BEFORE US, THE DESIGNS FOR THE HOMES, AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS.
SO IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD GET TO WEIGH IN ON AT THAT POINT.
AS LONG AS THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICANT SUBMITS PLANS THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH BUILDING CODE, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON FOR THE PLANS TO COME BACK TO YOU, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OUR ZONING CODE AS WELL.
SO THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESSIS WOULD BE AFTER THE MAP IS DONE TO SUBMIT PLANS FOR THOSE, AND THERE'S BUILDING PLANS WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE PUBLIC RECORDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, IT'S NOT A DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL BECAUSE THAT THE STATE DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO BE.
SO, AND, AND I'M REALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO
PERHAPS THE APPLICANT COULD GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S NOT WITHIN MY POWER TO MAKE YOU DO THAT.
IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, BREAKING THE RULES,
IN FACT, I DON'T BELIEVE I HEARD YOU SPECIFICALLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO MAYBE NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THAT.
WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS US, UH, AT THE PODIUM AND JUST SHARE ABOUT THE PROJECT OR YOUR PLANS OR, OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SO.
COULD YOU PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? YEAH, MY, UH, FIRST AND LAST NAME IS HONG D.
AND ACTUALLY THE PURPOSE OF MY, UH, PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY THAT I, UH, WANNA DEVELOP IT, DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, AND, UH, I WOULD LIVE IN ONE UNIT AND THE OTHER MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IT'S, UH, LIKE THE FUTURE PLAN, BUT THE REASON FOR, FOR ME TO HAVE THE RENTAL, UH, TENANT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE
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IT TAKE A LONG TIME TO DEVELOP AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE LIKE IT'S ALREADY, UH, MORE THAN TWO YEARS SINCE I'VE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.AND I, I, UM, STARTED WITH, UH, ALL THE PROCEDURE WITH ARCHITECTURE, UM, WITH THE OTHER VENDORS IN ORDER TO SUBMIT ALL THE PAPERWORK.
SO NOW, UH, I AM STILL, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR THE FINAL DECISION FROM THE CITY.
SO ONCE I HAVE THE FINAL DECISION FROM THE CITY TO APPROVE THE PROZAC, I GONNA BUILD THE HOUSE HERE.
AND, UH, THAT IS ALL I, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL MY, THAT IS MY INTENTION TO DEVELOP THIS, UH, THIS LAND.
SO, SO YOU WERE PLANNING ON LIVING ON ONE OF THE PARCELS YES.
THANK YOU, MR. D ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR DISCUSSION? A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DON'T FORGET TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, THANK YOU MADAM SECRETARY.
UH, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, CALL ON ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR DISCUSSION FURTHER, OR A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHAMER, CALIFORNIA, MAKING THE REQUIRED FINDINGS IN APPROVING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2024 DASH ONE 11 TPM ONE PH 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 TO ALLOW THE, THE SUBDIVISION OF A 14,450 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS FOR FUTURE SINGLE UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON EACH LOT ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 800 NORTH TROPICANA WAY AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, AND MAKING THE DETERMINATION THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 5 3 1 15, CLASS 15 MINOR LAND DIVISIONS OF THE CA GUIDELINES.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY VICE-CHAIRMAN HECHE, AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SLAND.
EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
I KNOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, OF BUSINESS TO CONDUCT HERE, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE TIME A LOT OF TIMES WHERE, UM, THE PUBLIC LEAVES BECAUSE THE ITEM THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR IS, IS BEEN RESOLVED.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU BRIEFLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LEARN A LOT WHEN YOU PARTICIPATE AND WHEN YOU ENGAGE AND, UH, I KNOW THAT I SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THE OUTCOME ISN'T ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HOPE FOR WHAT WE DESIRE, BUT I THINK THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE SOME POSITIVE DISCOURSE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS IS, IS A GOOD THING.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU COULD CONSULT STAFF OR I'LL, I'LL BE HERE AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, THAT I FOUND INTERESTING WHEN I LEARNED THAT ANY PROPERTY UNDER STATE LAW, UM, CAN BE DEVELOPED WITH AN A DU AND A JUNIOR A DU.
AND THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY OF OUR APPROVAL.
UM, THERE'S JUST CONDITIONS THAT THOSE PROJECTS HAVE TO MEET UNDER CITY AND STATE GUIDELINES.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY COULD HAVE ALREADY HAD THREE UNITS ON IT.
UM, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK JUST FASCINATING AND GOES BEYOND LA HABRA PROBABLY ALL THE WAY TO SACRAMENTO.
UM, AND WE CAN CHAT MORE ABOUT THAT AFTER, BUT I KNOW WE'RE JUST APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND YOUR PRESENCE HERE TONIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO KNOW IT DOES LOOK LIKE, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'LL HAVE ANY ITEMS TO PRESENT TO YOU AT OUR SECOND MEETING UPCOMING IN NOVEMBER.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE HAVING ITEMS READY FOR YOU, UH, THOUGH IN DECEMBER.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW WONDERFUL THE VETERAN'S DAY EVENT WAS THIS, UH, MONDAY, YESTERDAY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M TOTALLY POOPED TODAY BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY LONG DAY FOR ME.
UM, BUT ALSO TO MENTION THAT SENIOR WEEK IS ALL WEEK LONG IN LA HABRA.
SO ALL WEEK LONG BE LOOKING FOR EVENTS FOR SENIORS, WHICH IS LIKE A HUGE COHORT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM I GUESS 55 TO WHENEVER.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE PAINTING CLASSES AND IT'S ALL GONNA CULMINATE ON FRIDAY FOR A HEALTH FAIR.
THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING HEALTH SCREENINGS, THERE'S GONNA BE PHARMACISTS AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN BRING ALL YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS AND FIND
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OUT IF THERE'S ANY CONTRAINDICATIONS TOMORROW, THERE'S GONNA BE SENIOR PAINTINGS.SO I, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME BY THE COMMUNITY CENTER TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
COMMISSIONER CORDEZ, I ALSO AGREE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK EVERYBODY HERE THAT SHOWED UP TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION REGARDING YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING THIS MATTER.
UM, SOMETIMES THE OUTCOME IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED, UM, BUT SOME, THERE ARE RULES OUT THERE, THERE LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, DECEMBER 9TH.