[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2025 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
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AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER.
WILL THE AUDIENCE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN? COMMISSIONER RAMS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UNITED STATES AMERICA REPUBLIC.
UNDER WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL ROLE CHAIR MANLEY.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS EVENING.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED ON LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR A CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A.
SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THE ITEMS, ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, OR ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED, ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR SPEAKING TIME AND NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE.
ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED.
FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? SEEING NONE.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? HEARING NONE, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER CARD AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAMS. EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.
THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE LEC.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER'S CARD ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
PLEASE ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGE BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
TONIGHT'S FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER MODIFICATION 24 DASH 0 0 1.
TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 82 DASH 31 IN ORDER TO ALLOW ALCOHOL, SALES AND SERVICE UNDER A TYPE 48 LICENSE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, INCLUDING DJ PERFORMANCES, KARAOKE, SMALL MUSICAL GROUPS AND STANDUP COMEDY ACTS AT AN EXISTING BAR, AKA, THE HIDEOUT BAR AT 6 32 EAST WHITTIER BOULEVARD.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT.
MR. CHAIR, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR MANLEY PLANNING COMMISSION
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HERE TO PRESENT ON THE, UH, THE SUBJECT ITEM.UH, YOU'LL SEE ON THE PRESENTATION THE, UH, SUBJECT PARCEL IS DENOTED IN THE, UH, GREEN BOX FOR, UM, BOTH BUSINESSES THAT ARE PART OF THAT PARTICULAR SUITE.
UH, THE TENANT SPACE IS IN A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER.
UH, GENERAL PLAN HAS IT DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE CENTER ONE, UH, AND THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL.
UH, ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE SALES, AS WELL AS THE PROVISION FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ARE PERMITTED IN THE C TWO ZONE AS WELL AS THE, WITH THE, UH, MX OVERLAY, UH, SUBJECT TO THE USE OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SUITE.
THE SUITE IS ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE WESTERN PORTION FOR THAT.
UM, THAT ENTIRE BUSINESS SUITE TO THE EAST IS THE FAT BELLY GRILL, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED.
AND THE HIDEOUT IS THE SUITE TO THE LEFT.
WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL, UH, SHOPPING, UH, CENTER, SIMILAR TO THE ONE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST.
AGAIN, ANOTHER COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS, UH, MAPLE.
UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH ARE THE MAPLE APARTMENTS.
THAT IS A MULTIFAMILY, UH, DWELLING, UH, AREA.
AND TO THE EAST IS MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING, UH, UH, UH, TENANTS, UH, IN THAT SAME LOCATION.
AND THEN I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE SOUTHEAST, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH ADJACENT AS WELL.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME RESIDENTIAL R ONE USES SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE, UH, HIDEOUT AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUITE NOTED THERE IN THE RED BOX, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR ON THE EXTERIOR.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD TWO NEW LIGHT STANDARDS IN THE PARKING LOT AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE DENOTED WITH THE GREEN ARROWS.
AND THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE ADDITION OF ONE, UH, ACCESSIBLE PARKING STALL IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE HIDEOUT BAR.
IN 1982, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE, UH, UNDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 82 DASH 31, AS WELL AS A VARIANCE TO REDUCE THE PARKING FROM 12 TO SIX SPACES.
THAT, UH, APPROVAL WAS ALSO, UH, MADE TO GO BACK TO BE REVIEWED, UH, WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
AND THAT WAS DONE IN DECEMBER OF 82, UH, FOR COMPLIANCE REVIEW.
AND, UH, RESOLUTION 82 1 69 MODIFIED THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THAT AT THE TIME.
AND INCLUDED THAT THE APPLICANT REQUIRE, UH, REQUIRED THE APPLICANT TO, UH, GET AN ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT.
UH, THAT WAS FOR THINGS LIKE DARTS AND THE POOL TABLES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT.
THIS IS THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN FOR THE HIDEOUT.
UH, THEY HAVE SOME NON-LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, THE POOL TABLES, UH, A JUKEBOX AS WELL.
UH, IT'S BEEN A BAR SINCE 1982.
UH, IN 82 TO 86, IT WAS THE CSBA A GOGO FROM 99 TO 2000.
IT WAS CALLED BUSTER'S TAVERN FROM 2002 TO 2008.
AND THEN 2009 TO 2010, IT WAS CALLED EL CANTO NUMBER TWO.
AND FROM 2011 TO 2022, IT WAS THE LAS VEGAS BAR.
AND, UH, THE HIDEOUT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 19 IN, IN 2022.
FORGIVE ME, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS TO UPGRADE THEIR CURRENT TYPE 42 LICENSE, WHICH ALLOWS ON SALE BEER AND WINE TO A TYPE 48 LICENSE.
UH, ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE CONTROL, THOSE OUT LICENSES BASED ON TYPE AND, AND THE ACTIVITIES UNDER THOSE, THE TYPE 48 ALLOW, UH, LICENSE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ALSO SELL DISTILLED SPIRITS.
THEY ALSO WANT TO OFFER LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, UH, TO THEIR PATRONS.
UH, THAT INCLUDES DJ PERFORMANCES, KARAOKE, SMALL MUSICAL GROUPS, AS WELL AS SOME STANDUP COMEDY ACTS FROM TIME TO TIME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A BC DOES IS IT ALSO EVALUATES LICENSES IN WITHIN THE CENSUS TRACKS, AND THEY LOOK FOR THINGS, SOMETHING CALLED AN OVER CONCENTRATION.
AND THIS PARTICULAR CENSUS TRACK FOR THAT TYPE OF LICENSE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
THE TYPE 48, UH, THEY'RE ALLOWED UP TO SIX LICENSES.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE THAT ARE ACTIVE.
SO, UH, THE CHANGE TO A TYPE 48 IN THIS CASE DOES NOT, UH, UM, CREATE AN OVER CONCENTRATION OF LICENSES IN THE CENSUS TRACK.
WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THE INTERIOR CHANGES AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, MOSTLY THE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT PORTION OF THIS.
UH, AGAIN, THEY WANT TO HAVE, UH, DJ PERFORMANCES,
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UH, KARAOKE, SOME STANDUP COMEDY, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, UH, SOME LIVE PERFORMANCES WITH THE ACOUSTICAL GUITARS.UH, ZONING CODE SECTION, UH, FIVE POINT 32 REQUIRES FOR AN ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT THAT THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED STAGE AREA THAT'S A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET THAT'S, UH, UH, DENOTED BY THE HATCHED AREA.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR, UH, PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, INCLUDING SEATING AT TABLES AS WELL AS, UH, ACCESSIBLE SEATING AT THE BAR.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO REDUCE SOME OF THEIR NON-LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE REMOVED, UH, ONE OF THE POOL TABLES.
STAGE AREA IS DENOTED HERE IN RED, UH, SECTION FIVE POINT 32 ALSO REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A SIX FOOT SEPARATION FROM PATRONS, UH, THAT'S DENOTED BY THIS T AREA.
UH, ANOTHER REQUIREMENT IS THAT, UH, ENTERTAINMENT, UH, PERFORMANCES.
AND THOSE PERFORMERS HAVE A SEPARATE DRESSING ROOM THAT THEY CAN ACCESS, UH, THAT'S DENOTED DOWN HERE IN THE GREEN.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE TAKEN THE EXISTING OFFICE AND BIFURCATED IT SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE THAT DRESSING ROOM WITH A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.
AND ADDITIONAL, UH, A DA UPGRADES THAT ARE REQUIRED WOULD BE BOTH MALE AND FEMALE, UH, RESTROOMS THAT ARE NOW GOING TO BE A DA ACCESSIBLE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, IS ALSO REQUIRED IS THAT THEY MEET THE CITY'S NOISE, AND THAT REQUIRES THAT FROM SEVEN TO 10:00 PM UH, THE DECIBELS NOT EXCEED 55 DECIBELS ON THE INTERIOR AND 45 DECIBELS ON THE EXTERIOR.
SO WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, FOR THE INTERIOR, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO SOUND ATTENUATION.
UH, THAT'S A PHYSICAL CHANGE AND THAT'S, THAT'S DENOTED BY, MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT THE YELLOW ALONG THE WALLS ON THE WEST, UM, FLANKING THE BAR ON THE EAST AND THEN BEHIND THE STAGE, AND THEN NEAR THAT REAR ENTRANCE BY THE RESTROOMS. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO USE WHAT'S CALLED A TYPE X FIRE RATED DRYWALL.
IT'S GONNA BE AFFIXED TO THE EXISTING DRYWALL, UH, IS DENSER THAN REGULAR DRYWALL.
AND THE ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER HAS INDICATED THAT THAT WOULD DO ON THE INTERIOR BY AS MUCH AS 50%.
SO IN A LIVE BAR SETTING WITH MUSIC, YOU CAN HAVE SOUND THAT REACHES A HUNDRED TO 110 DECIBELS.
UM, THIS WOULD REDUCE THAT SOUND BY 50%, WHICH WOULD, UH, HAVE IT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS TO PREVENT SOUND LEAKAGE ON THE OUTSIDE.
SO WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL IS THAT THE DOORS, UH, IN THE NORTH, THE FRONT ENTRANCE IS WELL, AS THE ONE IN THE SOUTH WILL REMAIN CLOSED DURING OPERATIONAL HOURS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.
UH, THAT'LL HELP PREVENT SOUND LEAKAGE FROM THE OUTSIDE SO THAT THEY CAN MEET THEIR SOUND REQUIREMENT OF 45 DECIBELS.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CHANGE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BE OPEN FROM 12 TO 12:00 AM UM, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 AM AND SUNDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 AM.
UH, THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WOULD BE THURSDAY THROUGH FRI, UH, THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
FORGIVE ME, UH, WITH NOTHING ON SUNDAY.
UM, I DO WANT TO TAKE, UH, A MOMENT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ANOTHER STEP WE TAKE, WHICH IS TO LOOK AT, UH, CALLS FOR POLICE SERVICE IN THE AREA.
UH, WE LOOKED AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WHICH COVERS ALL OF THOSE OTHER BARS THAT WERE THERE AT THE PRIOR, AT THE SAME LOCATION.
UM, AND WE LOOKED AT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE, UH, THE HIDEOUT HAS BEEN THERE.
IN 2004, THERE WERE SEVEN CALLS FOR SERVICE OF THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THEY ARE GROUPED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER.
THERE WERE THREE AUDIBLE ALARMS RELATED TO THE SECURITY SYSTEM.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING INTERNAL AND, AND IT MADE A CALL FOR SERVICE.
THERE WAS ONE BAR CHECK THAT WAS INITIATED WHERE THE OFFICERS WENT OUT AND CHECKED THE BAR TO SEE HOW IT WAS OPERATING AND EVERYTHING WAS OKAY.
UM, THERE WERE TWO CALLS FOR SERVICE REGARDING LOUD MUSIC, WHICH IS WHY WE PAID, UH, SO MUCH ATTENTION TO ADDRESSING NOISE, BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR.
AND THERE WAS ONE CALL FROM A CITIZEN THAT OBSERVED A, UH, A PERSON THAT APPEARED TO BE INTOXICATED IN THE PARKING LOT AREA OF THE HIDEOUT IN THAT 6 32, UH, ADDRESSED AREA.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS THAT THEY WERE RELATED TO THE HIDEOUT OR NOT, SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT, UM, THOSE WERE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, UM, IN 2004.
SO WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, MODIFICATION AS PRESENTED HERE.
I KNOW THE, UH, DESIGN TEAM AS WELL AS THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES
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ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE PROJECT AS WELL.AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
IT WAS A FANTASTIC REPORT, UH, VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL TURN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF THEY DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF COMMISSIONER RAMS. UM, ON THE SOUND MEASURES, YOU SAID THERE WAS AN ACOUSTICAL ENGINEER THAT, SO WAS THERE AN ACTUAL STUDY DONE OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES TO THAT WOULD VERIFY THAT THEY WOULD MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS? YES.
UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO TALK ABOUT NOISE, WHAT, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU SEE OFTENTIMES IN SOUND STUDIOS WHERE THERE'S SORT OF THIS FOAM, UM, UH, CORRUGATED FOAM THAT'S ON THE WALLS.
THE SOUND ENGINEER LOOKED AT THAT AND DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD IMPROVE SOUND QUALITY WITHIN THE FACILITY, BUT IT WOULDN'T DO MUCH FOR REDUCING SOUND OVERALL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEY PROPOSED THE TYPE X DRYWALL.
UM, AGAIN, YOU'RE BASICALLY TAKING DRYWALL, WHICH IS ON THE WALL.
YOU ARE FIXING ADDITIONAL DRYWALL TO THAT WITH A, UM, AN ADHESIVE THAT ALSO HAS, UH, SOUND ATTENUATING PROPERTIES.
UH, THAT DENSER DRYWALL REDUCES THE SOUND BY AS MUCH AS 50%.
AND SO WE'LL GET FROM THE ROUGHLY, UH, A HUNDRED DECIBEL RANGE DOWN TO A 50 DECIBEL RANGE ON THE INTERIOR WITH THAT.
AND WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE, THEY CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT.
YEAH, 'CAUSE I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU SAID A COUPLE MINUTES AGO THAT THE SOUNDS WOULD, WITH A LIVE ENTERTAINMENT WOULD GET IT IN THE RANGE OF 120, UH, BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 110 IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD FROM THE SOUND ENGINEER.
SO IF IT'S 110, IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE IT DOWN TO WITHIN OUR CODE REQUIREMENT, THEN, UH, 50, IT'S GONNA BE HIGHER.
STILL GONNA BE HIGHER, UH, WITHIN, YEAH, BUT WITH THE DOORS CLOSED AS WELL, THAT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER SLAND? NO, I, THESE, THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICES FOR WERE FOR LAST YEAR.
'CAUSE YOU KEPT, YOU SAID, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY 2004
SO, SO ONLY, ONLY ONE OF 'EM WAS A RESPONSE TO, UM, SOMEBODY BEING INTOXICATED AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE IT WAS ASSOCIATED SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS, RIGHT.
THEY OBSERVED SOMEONE THAT APPEARED TO BE INTOXICATED.
I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORT THAT THAT PERSON WAS ENGAGED DIRECTLY OR IN THAT THEY WERE RELATED IN ANY WAY TO THE, THE HIDEOUT.
THEY MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
YOU MENTIONED THREE OF THOSE CALLS WERE FOR AN ALARM.
CAN YOU ELABORATE, UHHUH? YEAH.
THE, THE BAR HAS AN ALARM SYSTEM AND SO DIFFERENT THINGS CAN TRIGGER THE ALARM.
MAYBE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OPEN ONE OF THE DOORS WHEN IT WAS LOCKED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT SOMETHING WOULD'VE TRIGGERED THE ALARM AND THEN THAT WOULD'VE SENT THE CALL TO THE POLICE, AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE WERE FOR.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ALLEYWAY.
HOW WIDE IS THE ALLEYWAY? HOW MUCH, I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHAT IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE BUSINESS AND THE WALL OF THE MAPLE APARTMENTS? IT'S ABOUT 250 FEET.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME IN TERMS OF THIS ROOM, WHAT 250 LOOKS LIKE, UM, ISH.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE IF I COULD USE THIS ROOM AS A REFERENCE, BUT I COULD SAY THIS A PARKING STALL, YOUR TYPICAL PARKING STALL IS ABOUT 20 FEET LONG.
SO THAT, THAT MEANS THERE'S BETWEEN THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE APARTMENTS, UH, TO THE REAR.
AND THERE'S ALSO, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE PARKING, UH, OCCURS FOR THAT, FOR THE MAPLE APARTMENTS.
UH, SO TO, TO THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE RESIDENCE, IT'S ABOUT 10 PARKING STALLS.
AND IS THERE PARKING IN THE ALLEYWAY? I NOTICED THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME PARKING BEHIND ANOTHER BUSINESS.
UH, THERE MAY BE, BUT UM, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THE PARKING UP FRONT FOR WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH A DA AND, AND WITH THE VARIANCE AS WELL.
THERE'S NO VARIANCE ON THIS APPLICATION.
AND WHAT'S THE LIGHTING LIKE IN THE ALLEYWAY? UM, I, THERE ARE NO LIGHT STANDARDS IN THE ALLEYWAY.
UH, PERHAPS SOMEONE ELSE CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THERE ARE SOME, UH, LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING THAT LIGHTS THE ALLEYWAY, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
UH, YEAH, SO THERE IS SOME LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING THAT LIGHTS THE ALLEYWAY.
THAT'S A, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR NOW.
UM, YOU INDICATED, DARRYL, THAT THERE ARE THREE ACTIVE LI A B, C LICENSES IN THAT CENSUS TRACKED, BUT I, I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF REPORT IT, IT STATED THAT ONE OF THOSE LICENSES WAS SUSPENDED.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND SEE WHICH ONE, BUT YEAH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THREE WAS NOT THIS ONE, BUT
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NOT ONE OF THE OTHER.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.
WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HEAR FROM FIRST THE APPLICANT, IF THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, FOLLOWED BY ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
UM, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, YOU CAN COME FORWARD NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO DO SO.
UH, MR. CHAIR AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, MY NAME IS FTO REYES.
WE'RE THE CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT AND, UM, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF JOURNEY.
I THINK I'M ON DARRYL'S, MY SIXTH PLANNER, AND HE'S BEEN GREAT.
AND SO HAS, UH, MISS SONYA THERE.
UM, I CAN REALLY HELP YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.
UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE THE PLACE BETTER AND COMPLY WITH A DA AND, UM, LIGHTING.
UH, ESPECIALLY THE FRONT, THE PARKING THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, IS PARKING, THAT'S, UH, DIRECTLY BEHIND THE DENTAL OFFICE, SO I THINK THEY MADE SOME SPECIAL PROVISION.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR CASE.
SO THE ALLEY IS REALLY JUST FOR THE PARKING THAT IS FOR THE APARTMENTS.
SO OUR, OUR, IN OUR CASE, WE DON'T USE THE ALLEY WHATSOEVER.
THERE'S ONLY, UM, FIRE ESCAPEE EXITS OUT THE BACK, UH, IN CASE THOSE ARE NEEDED.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO GO BACK THERE.
THERE IS A TRASH BIN THAT'S BACK THERE FOR THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
UM, THE, THE GENERAL THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST MAKING THE PLACE COMPLIANT TO CODE AS FAR AS, UH, PHOTOMETRICS OR LIGHTING FOR THE FRONT PARKING LOT.
SO THERE'S TWO LIGHT STANDARDS THAT WE'RE ADDING, BUT THERE'S ALSO TWO LIGHTS ON THE BUILDING FACADE ITSELF THAT ARE BEING ADDED.
SO THAT'S GONNA GET US UP TO THAT ONE FOOT CANDLE LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO BE AT.
UM, THE SOUND ATTENUATION AS FAR AS THE EXTRA DRYWALL, YEAH, WE FIRST LOOKED AT PANELS, UM, AND THEN AFTER TALKING TO THE CONSULTANT, THEY'RE LIKE, PANELS WILL GIVE YOU BETTER ACOUSTICS FOR THE PLACE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA DENT THE SOUND AS MUCH AS STICKING ON UP THE WALLS.
SO THE, UH, THE DRYWALL IS REALLY JUST TO DO THAT.
IT'S A, IT'S A SPECIAL THICKER FI UH, FIRE RATED TYPE DRYWALL AND, AND IT GETS GLUED ON.
IT HAS SOME ACOUSTIC VALUES AS WELL.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE RESTROOMS ARE BEING, UH, UPGRADED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT.
AND THE BAR DID NOT HAVE A, A DA COMPLIANT SITTING AREA.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY ABOUT THE STAGE, IT'S NOT REALLY A STAGE THAT'S BUILT UP IN THE AIR, IT'S JUST AN DESIGNATED AREA.
WE LOOKED AT BUILDING IT UP, UH, IN THE AIR, BUT WE DON'T MEET THE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT A RAMP, SO WHAT'S REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT PUSHED OUT SOME OF THE CHAIRS TOWARDS THE BACK.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOWN TO ONE POOL TABLE.
BUT I, I DID WANNA SAY THERE'S A REALLY HIGH, UM, AND SECURITY SYSTEM INVOLVED.
AND ANYTIME THERE IS, UM, ENTERTAINMENT, THERE WILL BE SECURITY GUARDS AS WELL, UH, IF NEEDED FOR THE EVENING DURING THAT, DURING THAT TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, SO I'M HERE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE REGARDING THE DESIGN.
IF THERE'S MORE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS AS HISTORY, THEN THE OWNER'S HERE AS WELL.
ANYONE HERE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, YOU CAN PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.
AND THEN ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON FROM THAT.
WE'LL LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN JUST IN CASE WE NEED TO REVISIT ANYTHING.
UM, AND I'LL JUST TURN TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY DISCUSSION.
I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THE OWNERS.
IF THE, IF THE OWNERS ARE HERE, I'D, I'D LOVE TO ASK A, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
AND I'M SORRY I KEEP, UH, CLEARING MY THROAT.
YOU COULD JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR.
COULD YOU PLEASE SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? UH, D AS IN DAVID, R-I-E-S-L-E-I-N AS IN NANCY.
SO I WANNA START BY SAYING YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND ANYBODY WHO'S MORE IN SUPPORT OF THIS THAN ME AND ALL OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA.
BECAUSE I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF BRINGING LIVE MUSIC TO
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LAHABRA WHEN I WANNA WATCH A BAND, I WANNA WATCH IT IN LA HABRA WHEN I BUY A BEER, WANNA BUY IT IN LA HABRA.I DON'T WANNA DRIVE TO FULLERTON TO WATCH COMEDY.
I DON'T WANNA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS SO IT'S NOT HOSTILITY, IT'S JUST LET'S JUST GET THIS PERFECT.
SO WE CAN DO THIS AGAIN AND BRING LIVE MUSIC TO LA HABRA.
SO WHERE'S THE EQUIPMENT COMING IN FROM? UH, AS FAR AS WHEN YOU SAY EQUIPMENT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, I'M ASSUMING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THAT'LL BE A BAND.
SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO BRING IN AMPS, GUITARS, I'LL DO THE FRONT DOOR.
'CAUSE IT'S NEVER GONNA BE ANYTHING CRAZY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR MOST ACOUSTIC THING IT'S JUST TWO GUITARS, SO I'M NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE A PIANO OR ANYTHING CRAZY.
SO IT'LL JUST BE THE, FOR THE FRONT DOOR.
NO, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION 'CAUSE THAT I WAS, I, I KNOW A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, SO I'VE BEEN AT, BEEN TO A LOT OF LIVE VENUES AND THINGS, AND I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES WHEN YOU ALLOW ACCESS TO THE ALLEYWAY, THE ALLEYWAYS CAN BECOME A PAR A PROBLEM.
AND ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE LIVE BACK THERE.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE DO LIVE THERE.
UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THAT'S NOT WHERE THE EQUIPMENT'S GONNA BE COMING THROUGH.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND, AND, AND IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING, I'M IN, I'M INVESTING IN LA HABRA, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, STARTED A PIZZA PLACE THAT I HAD BOUGHT, UH, IT WAS CALLED BIG LEAGUE PIZZA.
AND I SOLD IT, NOT BECAUSE IT WASN'T DOING GREAT, BUT A A FRIEND OF MINE LOVED WHAT I DID IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE REAL, WE WE PUT ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY IN THERE.
I DON'T WANNA SAY IN THE MILK 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY LOVE THE CITY OF LA HABRA.
I HAVE ANOTHER RESTAURANT CALLED, UH, LA ROSA CANTINA.
I MEAN LAROSA MEXICANA COMING, UH, IT'S RIGHT THROUGH IMPERIAL.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE RODEO CANTINA BEFORE THAT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE DID IS WE GUTTED THE PLACE COMPLETELY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REPRESENT WHAT I THINK LAHABRA IS.
AND I CAN'T WAIT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU ALL COME DOWN.
UH, MR. MR. LAHABRA I THINK IS HIS NAME.
HE CAME AND SAW AND WAS BLOWN AWAY.
WE GUTTED EVERYTHING OUT BECAUSE THE CONDITION THAT WAS IN WAS DEPLORABLE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I, I REALLY PLAN ON INVESTING MORE IN LAHABRA.
UM, THIS WILL BE THE THIRD BUSINESS.
SO LOOKING REALLY FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY.
IT'S A TOUGH, IT'S A TOUGH LOCATION THAT WHERE YOUR RESTAURANT'S GOING IN THERE IT IS.
BUT, BUT I, I REALLY DON'T THINK ANYBODY PUT, YOU KNOW, GAVE A REAL EFFORT AND INTO PUTTING IT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, I, I DID MY STUDYING ONLINE.
UM, THE ROTO CANTINA DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A PERSON LIKE ME WITH A BAD BACK, COULDN'T SEND, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHAIRS WITH BACK SUPPORT.
SO I, I WATCHED ALL THIS, THE FOOD, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CARED MORE OF IT LIKE A NIGHTCLUB AS OPPOSED TO A RESTAURANT.
WE'RE GONNA BE STRICTLY AN, UH, A RESTAURANT AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S GONNA BE CULTURAL BECAUSE IT'S PRIMARILY MEXICAN, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT FRIENDLY FOR EVERYBODY, EVERY RACE, EVERY CULTURE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING WHEN I SAY IT.
AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND, SEND YOU GUYS A SPECIAL INVITE ONCE WE UH, ONCE WE'RE CLOSE TO GETTING OPEN.
SHE A COUPLE WEEKS AND WE'D LOVE TO HOST YOU GUYS THERE.
WE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE IT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR I DO THE OWNER? SO RIGHT NOW YOUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE FAT BELLY GIRL.
HOW DO YOU INTEND TO MAINTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP? WELL, UM, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S GONNA BE CHANGING.
THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING, I THINK, UM, A CHINESE, UM, WHAT IS IT, ERIC? SUSHI.
AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PERSON THAT WAS THERE BEFORE WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY NICE GUY AND WE DID OUR BEST TO TRY TO HELP HIM.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT FORMULA THERE FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, GREAT GUY, YOU KNOW, AND HE KNOWS THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
I THINK HE JUST MISCALCULATED WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH THE SUSHI.
IT'S GONNA BE GREAT AND WE'RE GONNA HELP HIM OUT.
AND YOU KNOW, I GOT THE OWNER'S SUPPORT HERE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WHERE WE TRY TO HELP EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH.
ANY OTHER, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION A AMONG US FROM ANY OF YOU COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAVE A, I HAVE
SO I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS COME UP MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS IN LAHABRA IN MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
AND YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE HAVE OUR PLACE WITH LIVE ENTERTAINMENT FAR FARTHER AWAY FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL PLACES.
'CAUSE EVERY, EVERYBODY HAS THE BEST INTENTIONS, BUT BACK DOORS GET LEFT OPEN AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GATHER IN ALLEYS 'CAUSE THEY GO OUT FOR A SMOKE OR, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF IF YOU'RE THE OWNER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT'S JUST PEOPLE AND YOU JUST GOTTA BE CONSTANTLY
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BABYSITTING 'CAUSE THEY JUST DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.AGAIN, SO I HAVE, I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THIS MAYBE ISN'T THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR, FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING? YOU GOOD? YOU OKAY? YEAH.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, SINCE 1982, THAT SPACE HAS BEEN USED AS A BAR AND I CAN DEFINITELY APPRECIATE FOR THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 43 YEARS OR SO, UM, THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT I THINK IS NOTEWORTHY IS, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD HELP ENABLE THEIR BUSINESS TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE, ATTRACT NEW CUSTOMERS, HELP IMPROVE THEIR, THEIR PROFITS.
AND THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT THEY CAN DO TO WORK WITH STAFF AND A, B, C TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR THESE CHANGES.
YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO WHAT DARRELL NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
STATES, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A MAXIMUM OF SIX ON SALE LICENSES FOR THAT CENSUS TRACK.
ONE OF THOSE THREE IS SUSPENDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN, IN 2024.
TWO OF THOSE CALLS WERE, WERE SOUND RELATED.
UM, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT'S DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
WHETHER IT'S THE NOISE MITIGATING MEASURES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, UM, THERE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, FOR THOSE DOORS TO REMAIN CLOSED.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER RAMSON, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
HUMAN ERROR IS ALWAYS A FACTOR.
UM, I MEAN, I I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY THAT THERE'S NO ONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, CERTAINLY THEY WERE NOTIFIED, UM, ABOUT THIS HEARING AND, AND WE'RE HERE WITH NOTHING BUT SUPPORT FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER AND STAFF IS, IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO, UM, APPROVE IT AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION APPRO TO APPROVE A RESIDENT.
MR. MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU CLOSE? I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.
AND WITH THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA, CALIFORNIA, MAKING THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND APPROVING MODIFICATION 24 DASH 0 0 1 TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 82 DASH 31 IN ORDER TO ALLOW ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE, SALES AND SERVICES UNDER A TYPE 48 LICENSE AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, INCLUDING DJ PERFORMANCES, KARAOKE, SMALL MUSICIAN GROUPS AND COMEDY ACTS FOR AN EXISTING BAR AT 6 32 EAST WHITTIER BOULEVARD.
AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THE MOTION MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR MACHA.
EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES.
MOTION PASSES THREE ZERO AND THIS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
YOU MEAN THREE ONE FOR FOR THE RECORD.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THIS EVENING FROM STAFF? GOOD EVENING.
UH, ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, IT WILL BE THE ANNUAL FORUM FOR THE PDA OC LUNCHEON AT THE NIXON LIBRARY.
THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 8:00 AM TO 3:30 PM AND CITY STAFF LOOKS FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION JOINING US.
I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT APPLICATIONS ARE STILL BEING ACCEPTED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH FOR THE VACANCIES WE HAVE ON BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION.
ANYONE INTERESTED IN APPLYING CAN DO SO BY FILING ONLINE OR IN PERSON WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND WITH THAT, UM, STAFF HAS NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER RAMS COMMENT.
UH, I WOULD JUST END WITH, I'D ASK THAT WE ADJOURN THIS EVENING TONIGHT IN MEMORY OF ETHAN CARLOS, WHO WAS THE YOUNG MAN THAT WAS KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT, A HACIENDA A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, JUST IN HIS MEMORY, HE WAS, UH, ONE OF MY STUDENTS, UH, THAT I WORKED WITH.
UM, JUST REALLY SEEMS LIKE A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT.
HE WENT TO LA HABRA AS A FRESHMAN LAST YEAR AND WAS AT LUCERNE AS A SOPHOMORE THIS YEAR.
UM, CAN'T IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, THE LOSS THAT, THAT FAMILY'S DEALING WITH.
AND THEN THERE IS A STUDENT FROM LAHABRA, UM, THAT WAS IN THAT ACCIDENT AS WELL, THAT, UM,
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I BELIEVE IS STILL IN THE HOSPITAL AND, AND STILL FIGHTING.UH, WE JUST ADJOURNED TONIGHT.
AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025.