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          AT THIS TIME, THE MEETING WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER, AND I WOULD INVITE THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN VICE CHAIR MACHA IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          MR. HAND OVER YOUR HEART. 
          READY? BEGIN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC. 
          FOR RICHARD, IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          MAY BE SEATED. 
          YOU WANT THAT OR GOOD? ARE YOU DONE THE SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL. 
          ROLE DONE, CHAIR MANLEY. 
          HERE. 
          VICE CHAIR MACHA. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER CARDENAS. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER RAMS LAND HERE. 
          OKAY, WE'RE ALL HERE. 
          WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS EVENING. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR. 
          SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE. 
          THE JOURNAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR OF CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA. 
          PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          JUST TO REITERATE, I I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. 
          UM, AND IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT ITEM, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. 
          SO IF WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SEEING THEN WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER CITY STAFF MEMBER OR A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED, ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED PER SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR. 
          SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED IN OUR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS ONE AND TWO. 
          ALL ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS AN ITEM IS REMOVED. 
          FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM? VICE CHAIR MACHA? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER SLAND? NO. 
          COMMISSIONER CARDENAS? NO. 
          IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVED? OKAY. 
          SEEING NONE, COULD I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          MOTION BEEN MADE BY VICE CHAIR MACHA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARDENAS. 
          EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          FOUR ZERO. 
          OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING. 
          THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. 
          THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM. 
          THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION. 
          REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. 
          AFTER ALL HAVE SPOKEN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE. 
          IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER'S CARD AND RE YOU CAN LEAVE IT WITH ME. 
          UH, YOU WILL FIND SPEAKER'S CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER. 
          WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR. 
          THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF AND NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE. 
          TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DULY NOTICED. 
          PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUESTS FOR ONE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT LLA 24 DASH 0 0 2 TO RELOCATE AN EXISTING LOT LINE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A 1.59 ACRE LOT AND TWO 
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PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUD 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 TO CONSTRUCT 21 DWELLING UNITS, APARTMENT HOMES, INCLUDING TWO AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR RENT TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS ON SAID 1.59 ACRE LOT. 
          THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 900 TO NINE 70 WEST HABRA BOULEVARD. 
          ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBERS 2 9 8 1 2 1 0 1 2 9 8 0 1 1, 0 2 1 AND 2 9 8 0 1 1 2 2. 
          DID WE RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? NO, WE DID NOT. 
          MR. CHAIR, COULD WE PLEASE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING, CHAIR MANLEY, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          DARRYL TAYLOR. 
          I'M THE CONTRACT PLANNER PRESENTING ON THIS TOPIC OF THE OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE APARTMENT HOMES, UH, PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE CHURCH SITE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH. 
          THIS IS THE PROJECT LOCATION. 
          IT'S COMPRISED OF FOUR LOTS THAT MAKE UP THE ENTIRE SITE. 
          AGAIN, THERE ARE TWO ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. 
          ONE IS THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT. 
          THE OTHER IS THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENTS ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO CREATE THE NEW PARCEL, UH, WHERE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO GO IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. 
          WE'LL COVER THE LOT LINE FIRST. 
          UH, THERE ARE FOUR, UH, LOTS THAT MAKE UP THE SITE, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, CREATE THE 1.59 ACRE PARCEL AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT MERGER AND A LOT, UH, SPLIT. 
          UH, CURRENTLY THE SITE IS BOUNDED BY OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE TO THE NORTH. 
          UH, ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH IS MULTI-FAMILY. 
          UH, THERE'S THE LAHABRA MANOR AND I THINK SOME OTHER MULTI-FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. 
          UH, TO THE EAST ARE THE MONTE VISTA APARTMENTS. 
          THOSE ARE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. 
          TO THE SOUTH IS GUADALUPE PARK AND THEN TO THE WEST, UH, IS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, UM, UH, ON WALKER AVENUE. 
          SO THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT AGAIN CONSISTS OF THE FOUR PARCELS. 
          WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE TWO PARCELS THAT FRONT ONTO LA HABRA BOULEVARD. 
          UH, ONE IS A LITTLE PARK, UH, THAT HAS A, A STATUE AND, AND A A LITTLE PARK AREA. 
          THE OTHER IS THE LOT THAT MAKES UP THE SANCTUARY SITE. 
          UH, THOSE TWO LOTS ARE GONNA BE MERGED TOGETHER. 
          THERE'S A LOT THAT FRONTS ON TO, UH, MARION. 
          THAT'S FOR PARKING. 
          UH, THAT LOT REMAINS THE SAME. 
          AND THEN THAT, UH, MOSTLY RECTANGULAR LOT TO THE SOUTH WILL BE RECONFIGURED. 
          UH, THERE'LL BE A LOT SPLIT, UH, IN ORDER TO CREATE THE 1.59 ACRE PARCEL ON THE SOUTH. 
          IN DOING THIS, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE A SPLIT ZONE DESIGNATION. 
          THERE IS AN AREA THAT'S ABOUT 9.3 FEET IN DEPTH AND 330 FEET IN LENGTH. 
          UH, THAT WILL BE SPLIT ZONE. 
          THAT AREA WILL BE R ONE ZONE, AND THE BLOCK WALL THAT IS GOING TO SEPARATE IT FROM THE CHURCH SITE IS GOING TO BE JUST NORTH OF THAT SPLIT ZONE AREA. 
          NOW, THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING ON OUR SITE BECAUSE FORGIVE ME, I GOTTA GO BACK A SLIDE. 
          UH, THE SITE STILL NETS OUT, UH, OVER 21 UNITS AND THEY'RE PROPOSING 21 UNITS ON THE R TWO PORTION OF THE SITE. 
          THAT PORTION THAT IS SPLIT ZONE, THAT IS R ONE WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, UH, MAKES UP LESS THAN 4% OF THE SITE. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A UTILITY CONNECTION, A SEWER CONNECTION THAT HAS TO BE MADE. 
          SO NOTHING COULD BE BUILT OVER TOP OF THAT, WHETHER IT WAS DEVELOPED AS R ONE OR R TWO. 
          OKAY, SO THE SITE IS PROPOSED, PROPOSED TO TAKE ACCESS OFF OF WALKER. 
          UH, IT WILL BE, UH, DESIGNATED THAT YOU'RE ENTERING TO THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH COLORED STAMP, CONCRETE AND, UH, SIGNAGE. 
          THERE WILL NOT BE A FENCE OR A GATE, UH, AT ANY TIME. 
          UH, THE AREA THAT YOU SEE THAT, UH, UH, SORT OF SHRUNK IN CUL-DE-SAC LIKE AREA IS ACTUALLY A, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT TURNAROUND. 
          THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO, UH, UH, HAVE AN EASEMENT IN PERPETUITY. 
          UH, THAT WILL ALLOW BOTH CITY, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS ACROSS THAT, THAT AREA THAT'S BOUND IN THAT, UH, RELATIVELY CIRCULAR, UH, CUL-DE-SAC. 
          AND AGAIN, NO GATE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. 
          THERE'S AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS. 
          THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THAT IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY FIRE. 
          UM, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, HOW THEY MEET FIRE REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE WALK THROUGH THE SITE. 
          UH, BUT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL TO HAVING ANOTHER EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT'S GONNA BE LOCKED AT ALL TIMES. 
          THERE'LL BE A NOX BOX. 
          THOSE ARE, UH, SORT OF A KEYED ENTRY THAT ONLY FIRE TYPICALLY HAS, AND THE, AND THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WOULD 
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HAVE IT, BUT IT WOULD BE LOCKED FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE SITE, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, 26 FOOT, UH, WIDE STREETS THAT ALLOWS FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS. 
          THE SITE IS BOUNDED ON THE EAST AND THE WEST BY EXISTING BLOCK WALLS. 
          THOSE WILL REMAIN, UH, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CONDITIONS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SIX FOOT HIGH SPLIT PHASE CMU BLOCK WALLS. 
          THE SITE IS, UH, REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, THREE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. 
          THE APPLICANT MEETS THAT, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO PARKING SPACES IN EACH GARAGE, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKING SPACES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE SITE. 
          THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO A DA STALLS AND, AND THERE ARE TWO A DA ACCESSIBLE UNITS ON SITE AS WELL. 
          AND THERE ARE ALSO, UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, 11 GUEST PARKING SPACES. 
          AND THOSE ARE ALSO ON SITE. 
          ALL PARKING SPACES ARE STANDARD DIMENSIONS AS REQUIRED BY CODE. 
          UH, THE SITE MEETS ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE, THE, UH, THE UNDERLYING R TWO, UH, UH, CODE, UH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION. 
          THE FRONT SETBACK IS, IS MEASURED FROM, UH, THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          AND INSTEAD OF BEING 15 FEET, IT'S GOING TO BE 10 FEET. 
          THERE'LL BE 15 FEET THAT SEPARATES THEM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST. 
          WELL, THE ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST, UH, BUT THE REAR YARDS ARE 10 FEET. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CONDITION A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY IN A SECOND. 
          THESE ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          AGAIN, UH, 63 SPACES ARE REQUIRED. 
          UH, THEY PROPOSE 42 COVERED THE REMAINING UN UNCOVERED, AND THEN ALL 11 GAS SPACES ARE ALSO UNCOVERED ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THERE'S A GREAT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE MONTE VISTA APARTMENTS AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF ABOUT FIVE FEET OR SO. 
          UH, SO THERE'S A TWO WALL CONDITION. 
          THERE'LL BE A FIVE OR SO FOOT RETAINING WALL. 
          AND, UH, THE EXISTING BLOCK WALL THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER UP THAT, UH, SEPARATES THE MONTE VISTA APARTMENTS CURRENTLY WILL REMAIN. 
          AND THERE'LL BE A LITTLE LANDSCAPING AREA, UH, IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO WALLS. 
          THAT WILL BE MAINTAINING BY A, UH, PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR THAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT ON BY THE, BY THE SITE ON THE WEST CONDITION. 
          THERE IS, UH, A, UH, A UNIT AT NINE 60 WALKER AVENUE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT. 
          AGAIN, THIS SEPARATION BETWEEN BUILDINGS IS 15 FEET AND BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE, IT'S 10 FEET. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO USE LANDSCAPING FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING. 
          UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, A COLUMN FERN. 
          UH, THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE A 24 INCH BOX, WHICH WOULD NET OUT TO BE ABOUT A NINE OR A 10 FOOT, UH, UH, COLUMN FERN, UH, AT, UH, ITS INCEPTION ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE THAT'LL PROVIDE SOME IMMEDIATE, UH, SCREENING AND PRIVACY BETWEEN THE, THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE AND THE EXISTING HOME. 
          AND AT FULL HEIGHT, IT REACHES A FULL HEIGHT OF ABOUT FIF 14 OR 15 FEET OVER A PERIOD OF TWO OR THREE YEARS. 
          WITH RESPECT TO OPEN SPACE, THE APPLICANT'S REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 250 FEET OF, UH, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          THEY DO SO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR, UH, LEFT THE WESTERN PORTION, YOU HAVE, UH, 250 SQUARE FEET THERE. 
          AND ON THE UPPER, UH, UH, RIGHT HAND CORNER, THEY HAVE AS MUCH AS, UH, 400 AND I THINK 66 SQUARE FEET OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          THERE'S 11,500, UH, SQUARE FEET OF COMMON OPEN SPACE JUST UNDER 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. 
          AND ALL OF THE YARDS DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF CODE. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A PROGRAMMED AREA OF, UH, 2,111 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR COMMUNITY, UH, PASSIVE AND ACTIVE RECREATION. 
          WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THAT AREA THAT'S, UH, DESIGNATED FOR COMMUNITY RECREATION. 
          THEY HAVE PASSIVE SEEDING AREAS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. 
          THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING 15 SQUARE FOOT RAISED PLANTERS. 
          THERE ARE SIX OF THOSE FOR GARDENING OR VEGETABLES IN THE LIGHT. 
          UH, THERE'S COMMON AREAS FOR SEATING AND FOR DINING OUTDOORS. 
          UH, THERE'S A BARBECUE GRILL. 
          AND THEN THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS COVERED BY A MEADOW OPAQUE, UM, GAZEBO. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE AREA IN THE SPANISH 
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COLONIAL REVIVAL, UH, STYLE, AND THEY DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT. 
          UM, UH, THAT DESIGN, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, UH, UH, EVENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY HAVE, UH, WROUGHT IRON DECORATIVE LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING BALCONIES ON AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS. 
          UH, THEY USE A COLOR SCHEME THAT IS, UH, UH, EITHER OFF WHITE OR TAN OR MEDIUM TAN. 
          UH, THEY HAVE, UH, WOODEN SHUTTERS THROUGHOUT AS WELL AS TILE ACCENTS. 
          UH, AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UM, ARCHED ENTRYWAYS THROUGHOUT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. 
          MOVING ON TO THE INSIDE, ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, THERE'S PARKING FOR, UH, TWO VEHICLES. 
          IT'S A STANDARD SIZED GARAGE. 
          UH, THERE ARE LOCATIONS FOR BOTH THE WATER HEATER AS WELL AS THE THREE CONTAINERS NEEDED FOR TRASH ORGANICS AND RECYCLING. 
          THEY PROPOSE A GREAT PLAN CONCEPT FOR THE GROUND FLOOR. 
          SO YOU HAVE A, A KITCHEN AREA WITH A, A LARGE OPEN SPACE TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT AREAS. 
          IN THE KITCHEN. 
          ON THE SECOND, OH, I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE A, UH, POWDER ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          MOVING ON TO THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, YOU HAVE A MASTER BEDROOM, UH, IN EACH UNIT WITH, UH, A WALK-IN CLOSET AND ITS OWN BATHROOM. 
          YOU HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL BATHROOM, UH, BEDROOMS, UH, THAT HAVE CLOSETS WITHIN THEM. 
          THOSE, UH, UNITS HAVE A SHARED BATHROOM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A LAUNDRY FACILITY ON THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL. 
          UH, THIS IS A FOUR A SIXPLEX. 
          IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THEY HAVE UNITS THAT ARE GROUPED IN TWOS AND FOURS AND A FIVE AND THEN A SIX. 
          I'M SHOWING THIS BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, BUT ALL OF THE FLOOR PLANS HAVE THE SAME FEATURES, AND SINCE THIS ONE HAD THE MOST UNITS, I THOUGHT IT WAS EXPEDITIOUS TO WALK THROUGH THIS ONE INSTEAD OF, UM, ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME. 
          SO THE APPLICANT IS ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR INCLUSIONARY UNITS, UH, UH, ON THE SITE WITH THE CITY. 
          THEY ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S RENTAL TO HAVE 9% OF THE UNITS RENTED OUT, UH, AT A LEVEL THAT IS AFFORDABLE. 
          UH, THEY'VE ELECTED TO DO THAT AT THE MODERATE INCOME LEVEL. 
          UH, THOSE INCOME LEVELS ARE NOTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. 
          UM, THAT CALCULATION OF 9% FOR 21 UNITS NETS OUT TO JUST UNDER TWO UNITS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TWO UNITS AND AN INCLUSIONARY RATE. 
          THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE DESIGNED WITH THE SAME MATERIALS AND FLOOR PLANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ALL THE OTHER UNITS HAVE, AND THEY'RE DESIGNATED WITH THE, UM, THE TWO STARS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS EXHIBIT. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. 
          THANKS SO MUCH, DARYL. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME I WILL TURN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UH, JUST TO SEE IF THEY DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF. 
          WE'LL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER RAMS LAND. 
          UH, IS THIS GONNA HAVE AN ONSITE MANAGER LIVING THERE OR IS A MANAGEMENT COMPANY? UH, THEY ARE GONNA HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. 
          AND, UH, ONCE THAT MANAGEMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY BROUGHT ON YET. 
          UH, THE APPLICANTS CAN SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO, UM, HOW BEST TO DO THAT, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'LL BE SOMEONE ON SITE, UH, WHERE THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY, AND HOW THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED. 
          BUT, UM, UH, THEY ARE GONNA HAVE A PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MANAGE THE SITE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          I, THAT'S IT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CARDENAS, NO QUESTIONS. 
          VICE CHAIRMAN MACHA. 
          I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DO THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE FOR SALE, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE CCNRS THAT RESTRICT PARKING. 
          IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR ON THIS SITE? UH, THIS IS, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, SO IT DOES NOT HAVE, UH, CCNRS. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT W HAS ALSO PROPOSED THAT THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WILL HAVE SORT OF A PARKING, UH, UM, UH, WING TO IT THAT WILL ALSO MANAGE PARKING ON THE SITE, SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO BE STICKERED IN ORDER TO PARK THERE. 
          AND THERE'LL BE SOME SORT OF PROGRAM WHERE GUESTS, WHEN THEY ARRIVE, THEY CAN BE GIVEN A TEMPORARY STICKER TO PARK ON THE SITE SO THAT IT'S MANAGED. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE 73 SPACES AND THEY, THEY HAVE ALL THE SPACES THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE. 
          YEAH, SIX A 63, I BELIEVE. 
          63. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
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ANYTHING ELSE? THIS IS GONNA SOUND LIKE A REALLY SILLY QUESTION, BUT WHEN YOU WERE AT THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE SHARED ZONE WITH THE R ONE AND THE R TWO, GO BACK TO IT AND YOU SAID NOTHING CAN BE BUILT THERE EVER. 
          AND SO MY QUESTION IS EVER, EVER ? UM, YEAH. 
          SO, UH, THE REASON FOR THAT, SORRY, I HAVE TO CLICK BACK QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, UH, WITHIN THAT ZONE, THERE'S ALREADY A UTILITY AND ON THE FAR WEST END, THEY'RE GONNA CONNECT TO, UH, A UTILITY IN THAT ZONE. 
          SO NOTHING SHOULD BE BUILT OVER TOP OF THAT. 
          TYPICALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE AN EASEMENT, PARTICULARLY ONE WITH AN ACTIVE UTILITY IN IT, UH, THE, THE OWNER OF THAT UTILITY IS NOT GONNA WANT YOU TO, TO BUILD OVER IT. 
          AND IN THE LARGER MAP, WHERE DOES THIS LITTLE AREA FIT POINT IT TO ME, POINT IT. 
          THAT RIGHT THERE? UH, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, ON THIS NEXT CLICK AT THE TOP? YEAH, AT THE TOP, ON THE NEXT CLICK, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A GREEN, UH, LINE DASH LINE AT THE TOP RIGHT THERE. 
          AND IT'S JUST BELOW THAT DASH LINE. 
          SO WHAT'S IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW IS GRASS, AND THAT'S THE OVERHANG FOR PARKING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, DARRELL, CURRENTLY, IT'S THREE PARCELS ON SITE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UH, NO, THERE'S FOUR. 
          IS THERE FOUR? OKAY. 
          YEAH, FOUR, BECAUSE WE'RE ENDING WITH FOUR. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT. 
          WE CAN'T CREATE MORE LOTS. 
          WE CAN'T CREATE MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO THE THE FOUR EXISTING PARCELS YOU'RE SHOWING HERE? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO WITH THE HIGHLIGHT, SO, UH, THERE'S FOUR EXISTING PARCELS. 
          THERE'S THAT SMALL SQUARE ONE THAT HAS, UM, AGAIN, A GARDEN AREA AND A STATUE. 
          THE ONE THAT NORTH NORTHWEST TOP LEFT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          TOP LEFT, UH, THERE'S THE ONE THAT COMPRISES THE SANCTUARY, UH, WHICH IS IN THE CENTER THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THERE'S ONE THAT FRONTS ONTO, UH, MARION. 
          SEE THE PARKING LOT THERE? SEE THAT? THE PARKING LOT MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE PORTION THAT MAKES UP THE SCHOOL AND THEN THE BALL, THE HUGE PAR PARCEL THERE. 
          HUGE PARCEL. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR. 
          UH, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT IS TO TAKE THAT ONE WITH THE STATUE, THE TWO THAT FRONT ONTO LAHABRA, BOTH THE SANCTUARY MERGE THEM. 
          THOSE TWO ARE GONNA BE MERGED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE ONE THAT FRONTS ONTO MARION, THE PARKING LOT STAYS THE SAME MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THE LOT SPLIT OCCURS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE, UM, THE LARGEST PARCEL. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I GUESS MAYBE MY, MY CONFUSION WAS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE PARCEL NUMBER TO BE INDICATED HERE FOR THAT TOP LEFT NORTHWEST, UM, THAT PARK AREA. 
          THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PARCEL WRITTEN IN THERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WAS THROWING ME OFF. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          PARCEL NUMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, IT, UH, IT IS PRETTY TINY. 
          I, I MAY HAVE, UH, THIS DOESN'T FIT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THEN I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, THE SETBACK FOR A MOMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S CALLED, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY WORK YOUR WAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO THE REQUIRED FRONT SETBACK, MINIMUM 15 FEET. 
          THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS 10 FEET THAT THE STAFF REPORT NOTES, AS YOU NOTED AS WELL, THAT THERE'S A FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACK ON THAT RESIDENCE TO THE WEST, PLUS THE 10 FEET OF THE SETBACK FOR THE PROJECT. 
          YOU COME UP WITH 15 THAT WAY, RIGHT. 
          UH, 15 FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING. 
          FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING, YEAH. 
          BUT 10 FROM BUILDING TO PROPERTY LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH BUILDING THAT HOUSE THERE ON THE LEFT. 
          I KNOW, BUT I BUT THE MEASUREMENT IS FROM 10 FEET. 
          FROM WHAT BUILDING? UH, 10 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED BUILDING. 
          OKAY. 
          TO THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE EXISTING, UH, PROPERTY WALL. 
          GOT IT. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T MEAN FROM THE OTHER ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION TOO, I KNOW IT MAY HAVE COVERED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE FRONT SETBACK IS CONSIDERED THE WESTERN PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A LITTLE ODD HOW IT'S WORDED. 
          IT'S THE QUAD, BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE BIG LOT, AND SO THAT'S, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO PICK WHERE YOUR FRONT SETBACKS GONNA BE AND THAT'S THEIR FRONT SETBACK AND THAT'S THE, THE FRONT OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE COMING INTO THE SITE. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          UM, YEAH, AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S REALLY MUCH WAY AROUND THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE, WHERE THE LOT LINE IS IS CURRENTLY DRAWN AS IT STANDS. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          AND THE DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT ALSO IS REQUIRED, UH, A HARD REQUIREMENT TO HAVE STREETS THAT ARE 26 FEET WIDE THAT ARE FREE AND CLEAR, THAT'S FOR FIRE. 
          UH, SO THERE'S REALLY NO GIVE ON THAT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, HERE YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT CONDITION. 
          YOU HAVE THIS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SEPARATION PLUS A GREAT SEPARATION. 
          UH, BUT WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES HERE IS TO, TO, TO INSTALL YOUR LARGER THAN NORMAL, UH, BOX FOR THE TREES SO THAT YOU GET A NINE OR 
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A 10 FOOT HEIGHT IN THE TREE THAT'LL PROVIDE SOME IMMEDIATE PRIVACY. 
          AND THEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, IT SHOULD GROW TO ITS FULL 14 OR 15 FOOT HEIGHT. 
          AND, AND THEN YOU'RE FULLY SCREENED. 
          I'M GO BACK FOR A MOMENT TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SIDE SETBACK REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FEET. 
          AND LOOKS LIKE THE PROJECT HAS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN YOU JUST INDICATE ON THIS WHERE, WHERE THAT SIDE SETBACK WOULD BE? SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE SOUTHERN LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          BY GUADALUPE PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FEET, BUT IT, IT'S THE NORTH AND SOUTH, I GUESS IT'S 10 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE NORTH AND 10 FEET, 10 FEET ON THE SOUTH, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          10 FEET ON THE SOUTH. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          WILL YOU, WILL YOU, I HAVE A FEELING WE MAY AS WE GO ALONG, SO DON'T GO ANYWHERE, DARRELL. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          WE SHOULD GET THAT IDEA. 
          UH, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL HEAR FIRST FROM THE APPLICANT IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION FOLLOWED BY ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO IS HERE OR WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. 
          SO IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT AS YOU ADDRESS US, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME, AND IF YOU HAVE A LESS THAN COMMON LAST NAME, IF YOU COULD SPELL THAT FOR THE RECORD. 
          GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN MANLEY, MEMBERS OF THE THE COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME IS DOUGLAS WOODWARD, W-O-O-D-W-A-R-D, AND I'M A CONSULTANT FOR THE DIOCESE OF ORANGE. 
          COULD WE GET, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT TALL. 
          COULD WE GET YOU INTO THE MIC A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          HOW'S THAT? BETTER? THAT'S BETTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK STAFF, UM, FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN THIS PROJECT. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, NOT JUST DARRELL, BUT THE ENTIRE STAFF. 
          UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH A NUMBER OF DRCS AND WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO COME UP WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY NICE PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA. 
          UM, THE DIOCESE HAS BEGUN A, UH, PROCESS OF REVIEWING PROPERTIES ACROSS THE COUNTY AND LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDERUTILIZED AND FINDING WAYS TO TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES AND CREATE SOME VALUE TO SUPPORT THE CHURCHES AND THE PARISHIONERS ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          UM, LAHABRA HAPPENS TO BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT WE'VE GOT PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTY WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING ON. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PROJECT THAT THE DIOCESE SLASH THE PARISH COMBINED WILL CONTINUE TO OWN THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO THE, ARGUABLY THE LANDLORD WILL ALWAYS BE THE CHURCH. 
          NOW, THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES INVOLVED THERE. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET TO THE DETAILS, UH, BUT THE OWNERSHIP WILL REMAIN, UM, WITH THE CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH ULTIMATELY WILL BE SORT OF RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THAT BEING SAID, IT WILL BE MANAGED PROFESSIONALLY BY A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. 
          SO CHURCHES ARE GOOD AT PREACHING, BUT PROBABLY NOT GOOD AT PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. 
          SO WE'LL BE HIRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THAT. 
          UM, UH, OUR, OUR PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IS CURRENTLY A FOLLOW FIELD. 
          UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CRITTERS BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, RABBITS AND STUFF, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME, SOME UNHOUSED PEOPLE THERE TOO. 
          AND WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THIS PROJECT AND GIVING, YOU KNOW, 21 NEW FAMILIES A PLACE TO CALL HOME IN THES LA HARBOR IS A REAL POSITIVE. 
          UM, THE, THE HOMES IS DAR I WAS, I HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO TELL YOU, BUT DARRYL DID AN AMAZING JOB. 
          HE KIND OF COVERED EVERYTHING, SO I MAY SKIP A FEW THINGS HERE. 
          UM, WE ABSOLUTELY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF PARKING, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES AT THIS TIME, EVER. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE TWO AFFORDABLE HOMES, WHICH WILL BE NICE FOR TWO FAMILIES WHO MAYBE NEED A LITTLE HELP TO, TO, TO BE IN A GREAT NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LIKE THIS. 
          UM, WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING SOME BENEFITS TO THIS AREA. 
          UM, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST WAS BUILT 72 YEARS AGO, AND WALKER HAS BEEN A DEAD END STREET FOR 72 YEARS, AND FOR 72 YEARS, THE CITY TRASH TRUCK HAS HAD TO BACK UP FOR 72 YEARS. 
          THE MAINTENANCE STREET SWEEPER HAS HAD TO BACK UP. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE GET DOWN THERE AND REALIZE THERE'S A DEAD END, THEY HAVE TO SOMEHOW MAKE THAT TURNAROUND. 
          KIND OF REMINDS ME OF SOME MOVIES YOU'VE SING. 
          UM, WE HAVE OFFERED TO PUT IN THIS CUL-DE-SAC. 
          IT'S NOT REQUIRED. 
          OUR PROJECT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE DEFINING THAT CUL-DE-SAC WITH A, A CONCRETE BAND IN THE PAVING. 
          SO THAT SORT OF VISUALLY MAKES IT CLEAR, HEY, THIS IS A CUL-DE-SAC, YOU CAN TURN AROUND HERE. 
          UM, AND THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT IS IN THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE, FOR POLICE, FOR FIRE, AND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN MAKE THAT TURNAROUND AND, AND, YOU KNOW, GO BACK OUT IF THEY ENDED UP DOWN THERE BY ACCIDENT IN ADDITION, AND JILL DIDN'T SPEAK TO THIS, UM, BUT THE WATERLINE OF WALKER DEAD ENDS. 
          AND WHEN A WATERLINE DEAD ENDS WATER CAN GET STAGNANT, WATER CAN BECOME UNHEALTHY. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE ARE SERVING OUR PROJECT, BUT ALSO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A WATERLINE NORTH ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY WITH AN EASEMENT PROVIDED, AND THEN 
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BRING IT BACK TO THIRD AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST NORTH. 
          SO THAT'LL EQUIP A, A LOOP SO THE WATER WILL NEVER BE BECOME STAGNANT. 
          SO IT'S A TRULY A BENEFIT FOR, FOR THE CITY AND, AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, WE'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT BEING CONSISTENT, AND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WORKED HARD AT THAT. 
          WE WANTED IT TO MAKE IT EASY. 
          THE ZONING IS IN PLACE, THE GENERAL PLAN'S IN PLACE. 
          UH, WE ARE BUILDING WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR AND PROVIDING 21 NEW HOUSES AND 21 HOUSES FOR YOUR HOUSING NEEDS AND YOUR, YOUR GENERAL PLAN HOUSING AS WELL. 
          I WILL BE HERE AFTER ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE FOR THAT NOW OR LATER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, LET'S, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE ANY. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN MANLEY AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME IS FATHER WILLIAM GOLDEN, G-O-L-D-I-N, AND I AM THE PAROCHIAL ADMINISTRATOR OF OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE CHURCH HERE IN LA HABRA. 
          OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE CHURCH HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS GREAT CITY SINCE 1947. 
          AND OF COURSE, OUR PARISH AND ITS PARISHIONERS PROVIDE MANY OUTREACH, BUT ALSO RELIGIOUS BASED SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA, BUT NOT JUST FOR CATHOLICS. 
          WE OFFER A GREAT DEAL FOR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, AND WE PLAN TO BE PART OF THE FABRIC OF THIS CITY OF LAHABRA FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THIS APARTMENT PROJECT WILL PROVIDE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE CHURCH, AND ITS GOOD CHARITABLE WORKS FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. 
          THIS PROJECT, WE BELIEVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN. 
          IT WILL PROVIDE 21 FAMILIES WITH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO CALL HOME IN LA HABRA. 
          AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BOTH TO THE CHURCH AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEW OCCUPANTS OF THESE APARTMENTS. 
          AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT FOR OUR CITY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          THANK YOU, FATHER GOLDEN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CHAIRMAN MANLEY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME'S SCOTT MILLER. 
          I AM A RESIDENT OF THE HARBOR FOR 57 OF MY 65 YEARS. 
          I'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN THE BUSINESS MANAGER AT OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE FOR 34 YEARS. 
          I NOW WORK ON OUTREACH FOR OUR LADY GUADALUPE CHURCH. 
          AND MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT GOES WAY BACK TO WHEN I FIRST STARTED. 
          OUR LADY GUADALUPE, WAS A TIME WHEN THEY WERE GONNA BUILD PLANNING TO BUILD MARY'S HOME, WHICH IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE. 
          IT WAS NOT REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT WAS SPOKEN LOUD AND CLEAR, AND THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT I THINK WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME UP, I JUST THOUGHT, WOW, THIS IS A GREAT, IT'S A WIN-WIN. 
          OUR PARISH HAS SOMEWHAT CONTROL OF RESIDENTS, THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          IT'S A BLIGHTED PIECE OF LAND THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR DECADES WITH OUR HOMELESS POPULATION. 
          WE SPENT MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PUTTING FENCING. 
          IT'S COME DOWN, HAVE TO KEEP IT CLEARED. 
          AND SINCE WE BEGAN PROBABLY 10 YEARS AGO, BEING MORE INVOLVED IN OUTREACH, WE'RE JUST DOWN THE PATH, THE TRAIL, WE SERVED 50 TO 75 FAMILIES A DAY WITH FOOD. 
          UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AT GUADALUPE PARK AT HILLCREST, I SEE THE ACTIVITY ON THAT TRAIL, AND I CAN ONLY THINK THIS, THIS KIND OF IMPROVEMENT FOR THE TRAIL WOULD BE FANTASTIC. 
          AND I, I SEE IT SIMILAR TO THE TRACKS IN BREA, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE IS APARTMENT LIVING ON THE TRACKS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'D BE ACCESS TO THE TRAIL TO HAVE MORE POSITIVE ACTIVITY ON THAT TRAIL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN LA HABRA WHO ARE ACCESSING THAT TRAIL, AND EVEN THE PARTICIPANTS AT OUR OUTREACH. 
          SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. 
          ANYONE ELSE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN, UH, OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED ITEM. 
          MR. CHAIR. 
          I HAVE SIX CARDS. 
          UM, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS NOT SUBMITTED ONE, THEY CAN, UH, THEY CAN BRING 'EM OVER. 
          WHY DON'T YOU CALL THE FIRST ONE, LISA COTA. 
          HI, MISS COTA, BRING IT DOWN. 
          . 
          MY NAME IS LISA COTA, LAST NAME COTA. 
          UM, I RESIDE AT 3 41 SOUTH MARION STREET WAS JUST RIGHT OFF OF WALKER. 
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I OPPOSE THIS, UH, BUILDING. 
          UM, THERE IS NO ROOM TO BE ADDING 64 MORE VEHICLES COMING UP AND DOWN THAT STREET RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU CANNOT GO UP AND DOWN NEXT TO EACH OTHER. 
          YOU ONE PERSON HAS TO MOVE OVER BEFORE YOU CAN GO BY. 
          AND IN CASE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, THERE'S NOWHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET A VEHICLE IN THERE, IN AND OUT. 
          UM, THIS HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          SUNDAYS, UH, WHEN THE CHURCH IS THERE, OR ON SATURDAY NIGHTS OR WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR SPECIAL EVENTS, IT'S EVEN WORSE. 
          UH, THE CHURCH, UH, PEOPLE, THEY PARK ON MARION STREET, WHICH TAKES AWAY FROM OUR PARKING. 
          BUT THE, IF YOU GO DOWN THAT STREET DURING THIS TIME, YOU HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING THROUGH, COMING BACK OUT 15, 20 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME. 
          THERE'S NO WAY AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE ANYWAY WITHOUT CLEARING ALL THE VEHICLES OUTTA THE WAY. 
          SO THERE'S NO ROOM TO ADD MORE, MORE VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUTTA THERE. 
          THIS HAS BEEN A ONE-WAY STREET FOR, I DON'T KNOW, SOMEONE SAID 70 SOMETHING YEARS. 
          THE WHOLE TIME THAT I'VE LIVED THERE, UH, IT'S BEEN A ONE-WAY STREET. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE HAVING TO GO IN AND OUT OR BACKING OUT. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT'S A ONE WAY TRASH. 
          PEOPLE ARE USED TO IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT'S A ONE WAY. 
          SO ADDING MORE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUTTA THERE ON A ONE-WAY STREET THAT'S SO NARROW NOW, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CODA. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          WELCOME. 
          UH, MY NAME IS BONNIE CHAVEZ, C-H-A-V-E-Z. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MARION STREET, SO I REALLY FEEL FOR THE RESIDENCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD MENTION OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC, SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT EXISTS, AND IF IT DOES, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO ACCESS THAT. 
          UM, SO JUST BEING ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TRAFFIC, UM, RELATED TO THE SCHOOL AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY. 
          AND RECENTLY, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF VERY TRAGIC DEATHS OF VERY YOUNG PEOPLE THAT GO TO LA HABRA. 
          UH, AND, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AS HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. 
          SO I'M NOT GONNA KIND OF DWELL ON THAT. 
          I WOULD JUST ASK IF, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY 74 MORE CARS THAT ARE PROJECTED TO BE IN THE AREA, UH, ON A STANDARD BASIS. 
          AND SO A QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME WOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF A STREET WALK ON, UM, ON LAHABRA, UM, BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH MARION STREET. 
          ON ON MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE, UH, PERMIT PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARION STREET. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO REQUEST CONSIDERATION OF PERMIT PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE AS IT IS, AND WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC, IF THE ACCESS IS GONNA BE THROUGH LAHABRA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, AS IT IS ON MY STREET, UM, THERE ARE TIMES THAT THERE ARE CARS PARKED THAT ARE LIKE ON THE VERGE OF BLOCKING MY DRIVEWAY ACCESS. 
          AND OFTENTIMES WHEN IT'S STREET SWEEPING, MY STREET DOES NOT GET CLEANED BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST STAY THERE AND THEY DON'T GET CITATIONS. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS BEING ON, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, MS. CHAVEZ. 
          JUST FOR CLARITY, YOU'RE, WHEN YOU SAY NORTH MARION, YOU'RE NORTH OF LAHABRA BOULEVARD? CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT DOES AFFECT THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE NOTED THAT. 
          THANK YOU, JOSHUA. 
          GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          HI, MY NAME'S JOSHUA DUR, DERI LIVE AT 9 81 WALKER, UM, THREE HOUSES AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING PER SE, UM, BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, NOT ALL OF THE IMPACTED RESIDENTS ON MARION NOTIFIED BECAUSE THEY'RE BEYOND THE 300 FEET. 
          AND SO I HAVE CONCERN THAT, UH, WORD OF OF, UH, THE PROJECT HAS NOT REACHED THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE FULLY AFFECTED. 
          UM, AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION, UH, STREET PARKING IS ALREADY VERY RESTRICTED WITH, UH, NARROW STREETS. 
          AND IF PEOPLE ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET, WE CAN'T GET TWO VEHICLES IN AND OUT. 
          SO THE ADDITION OF 63 MORE VEHICLES, UM, IS GONNA INCREASE TRAFFIC ON TOP OF WHAT IS ALREADY THERE FROM THE, THE CHURCH. 
          UM, IN THE PUBLIC. 
          UH, IN, IN THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT 
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151 TRIPS, UM, ESTIMATED TO BE GENERATED BY THIS. 
          AND THAT SEEMS ESPECIALLY LOW IF WE'VE GOT 63 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES IN THE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND IF EACH OF THOSE TWO, UH, THREE VEHICLES PER UNIT IS COMING AND GOING TWICE IN A DAY, THAT'S 252 TRIPS PAST MY HOUSE WITH, WITH VEHICLES. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S, UH, TOO HIGH, TOO LOW, BUT I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ESTIMATE THAT THEY DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC REPORT BECAUSE IT'S LOWER THAN SOME THRESHOLD. 
          UM, I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE PROJECT CAN'T ALSO OPEN THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS, UM, UH, GATE TO THE, UH, ON THE NORTHWEST, UH, CORNER OF THE PROPERTY TO HAVE, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT EXIT OUT BOTH ONTO WALKER AND ONTO THIRD. 
          UM, THAT WOULD HELP TO DISTRIBUTE THE TRAFFIC LOAD ACROSS WALKER, UM, AND THE SOUTH PART OF MARION. 
          UM, AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR MUCH MORE, UM, UH, UH, HIGHER, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW IF PEOPLE END UP COMING DOWN WALKER AND THEN NEED TO, TO EXIT THE AREA BECAUSE IT'S A DEAD END AND THEY CAN'T GET OUT. 
          SO THEN THEY COULD GO NORTH AND THEN EXIT OUT ONTO THIRD AND LEAVE THE AREA MUCH MORE RAPIDLY WITHOUT NEEDING TO EITHER GO PAST ALL OF THESE NEW RESIDENTS, UH, HOMES OR USE THAT CUL-DE-SAC TURNAROUND. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE IS SPEED CONTROL AT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT, OR THE ENTRANCE TO THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T RUSHING OUT PAST MY HOME. 
          UM, IF THERE'S AN ISLAND OR SOME SORT OF SPEED, UH, BUMPS TO, TO SLOW TRAFFIC, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, A BIG HELP. 
          WE HAVE PROBABLY A DOZEN KIDS THAT LIVE ON WALKER AND THAT CORNER AREA OF, OF MARIAN. 
          AND, UM, UH, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE, THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC OF ALL OF THESE EXTRA TRIPS. 
          UM, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, DEMANDS FOR, FOR TRASH AND STREET SWEEPING. 
          IS A STREET SWEEPER GONNA GO THROUGH THIS, THIS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT? UM, OR ARE THEY, UH, I, I HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THE TRASH TRUCKS DO HAVE TO BACK UP. 
          UH, THEY CAN'T TURN AROUND ON, ON WALKER. 
          UM, SO MAYBE HAVING A TURNAROUND IS GOING TO FACILITATE THEIR FLOW. 
          THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, BUT IT, IT'S, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, FINALLY, IF THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE ACCESS TO GUADALUPE TRAIL, UM, ON THE SOUTH END OF THE, THE PROJECT, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONTROLLED ACCESS SO THAT PEOPLE FROM THE PARK ARE NOT COMING NORTH, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND ONTO WALKER. 
          UM, AND IF RESIDENTS OF THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT HAVE ACCESS TO GUADALUPE TRAIL, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE FOR RESIDENTS OF WALKER THIRD AND SOUTH MARION TO ALSO BE ABLE TO, TO COME AND GO THROUGH ANY ACCESS GATES, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, GATES THAT ACCESS THE TRAIL. 
          THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DUR. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, CHAIRMAN MANLEY, THIS IS SYLVIA PETRI. 
          P-I-E-T-R-I. 
          I LIVE ON 2 4 1 SOUTH MARION STREET. 
          AND, UM, I'M GONNA SAY WHAT OUR PA THE LAST PERSON SAID. 
          I DON'T, UM, OPPOSE PER SE, BUT I DO HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS REGARDING MAINLY TRAFFIC. 
          UM, IT IS TRUE THAT FOR OUR STREET EVERY SUNDAY WE HAVE PROBLEMS. IF WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO OUR CHURCH, WE CAN BACK OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THE CHURCH, WHICH WE'VE BUILT WITH BUILT, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 27 YEARS, SO IT'S OKAY, BUT, UM, ADDING MORE CARS COMING IN AND OUT ONLY ONE WAY THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT. 
          UM, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S TRUE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GONE STUCK TWICE AND WE HAVE AN 88-YEAR-OLD GRANDMA THAT LIVES WITH US AND WE CAN'T EVEN GET TO OUR HOUSE BECAUSE THERE'S A FIRE DEPARTMENT TRUCK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF SOMEONE, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN GET PAST THAT. 
          SO ADDING 
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THAT MANY MORE CARS IS ONLY GONNA INCREASE ISSUES. 
          UM, SAME, SAME CONCERN WITH SPEED. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A SPEED BUMP ON OUR STREET, AND AS IT IS, WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, CARS RACING THROUGH THERE. 
          SO IMAGINE ADDING MORE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AT THE END OF THE STREET. 
          AND SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF KIDS ON OUR STREET, WHICH WE LOVE, AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PETS, SO WE CARE ABOUT THEM TOO. 
          UM, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE STREET. 
          WE DO HAVE A, UM, WALKING LIGHT THAT NO ONE EVER STOPS FOR, AND HAVE SEEN SO MANY, SO MANY NEAR ACCIDENTS THAT ARE VERY TRAGIC. 
          SO, UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE DEFINITELY ANOTHER CONCERN. 
          UM, I WAS THINKING TOO, OF WHY DO WE NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS FOR THESE NEW RESIDENTS ONTO MONTE VISTA? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT'S A STREET THAT'S NOT A ONE WAY STREET. 
          AND I MEAN, IMAGINE IF YOU CAN AT LEAST RELEASE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT ONLY COMES ONE WAY ON A VERY LONG STREET THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER ACCESS. 
          HMM. 
          UM, I THINK THOSE WERE MY CONCERNS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. PETRI. 
          YOU HAVE ONE MORE, VERONICA, TWO MORE PETER. 
          TWO MORE AFTER THIS. 
          PERFECT. 
          GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M PETER ES U-R-Q-U-I-D-E-S. 
          I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT FOR ALL, ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN. 
          MY MAIN, UM, THOUGHTS ARE THAT THIS, UH, PROJECT IS GOING TO BE, UH, PUT ON A FLOODPLAIN AND THE WATER THAT COMES FROM THE CHURCH IS GOING TO GO INTO IT AND POSSIBILITY WITH OUR NEW, UM, EXTREME WEATHER THAT WE HAVE NOWADAYS IS GONNA END UP FLOODING THAT AREA. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO, UH, END UP DAMAGING THESE NEW HOMES. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING, UH, PATIOS, UH, UM, PLANTERS AND OTHER, OTHER THINGS ON THE EAST SIDE AND WITH THE, THE, THE EARTH THAT'S IN OUR AREA, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STABILIZE IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO EXTRA, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO MAKE EVERYTHING SO IT DOESN'T FALL IN TOWARD THE CHURCH AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY, ERMO. 
          GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          EVENING GUILLERMO PALACIO, P-A-L-A-C-I-O. 
          I LIVE AT, UH, 1000 WEST LAHABRA BOULEVARD. 
          THAT'S THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE CORNER. 
          THAT'S THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE CORNER WHERE YOU COME DOWN THE STREET. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CHURCH NO LONGER HAS, UM, PARKING FOR ALL THEIR, UH, CUSTOMERS BECAUSE ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY, AND ANY SPECIAL OCCASION, I GET CARS PARKING, AND I SEE THE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE CHURCH AND THEY'RE EVEN PARKING ON THE CORNERS WHERE IT'S ILLEGAL TO PARK 10 FEET WITHIN A CORNER. 
          I SEE THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT USED TO COME TO THE CHURCH THAT CAN'T PARK THERE NO MORE, UM, TRYING TO, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HABER BOULEVARD, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          I ALWAYS SEE PEOPLE ALMOST GET RUN OVER, AND IT'S JUST BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR MY FAMILY. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS ALSO. 
          UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN REPAR THAT IF THEY DON'T DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUS THERE'S NO PARKING FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS. 
          AND THEN ARE THEY GONNA RUN THE SCHOOL AGAIN AS A BUSINESS? AND ARE YOU GONNA DO A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT IF THE BUSINESS IS RUNNING OF THE SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH? I MEAN, THAT'S DOUBLE THE, 
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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED. 
          AND, UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M OPPOSED TO IT. 
          AND I FEEL THAT, UH, TRAFFIC ASSESSMENTS AREN'T DONE TO, UM, COMPENSATE FOR CHANGING THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PALACIO. 
          JESSE, I WILL AS YOU COME UP, UM, I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE A, A BIG MAP, EACH OF US IN FRONT OF US, AND IT SHOWS THE WHOLE CITY EVERY PARCEL. 
          SO AS YOU SHARE WITH US, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHAT YOUR ADDRESS IS, IF YOU SEE US KIND OF LOOKING DOWN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHO'S IN FRONT OF US AND PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT. 
          SO, GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS JESSE PEREZ, PREZ. 
          I LIVE AT ONE 10 SOUTH MARION SECOND HOUSE ENTERING MARION STREET. 
          AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANNA PUT IN MORE HOUSING, WHICH, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ENTRANCE OTHER THAN MARION. 
          AND AS IT IS, I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 10 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENCE OF LA HABRA FOR 40 SOMETHING YEARS. 
          MY AUNT LIVES RIGHT OF MARION ALSO TOUR THE END OF, AND, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH ENTERING AND EXITING WITH THEIR CHURCH EVENTS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND LIKE SOME OTHER RESIDENCES, IT'S HARD TO EXIT YOUR DRIVEWAY OR TO ENTER YOUR DRIVEWAY DURING THOSE HOURS. 
          BUT ADDING MORE IN NARROW STREETS, IT'S GONNA INCREASE MORE VOLUME OF CARS ENTERING AND EXITING MARION STREET. 
          UH, I DON'T SEE IT POSSIBLE. 
          I MEAN, IF THERE WAS ANOTHER INTEREST THROUGH MONTE VISTA OR IS IT, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY, BUT NOT THROUGH ONE ONE STREET. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD INCREASE. 
          I MEAN, AND JUST IMAGINE, I MEAN, WE ALL LIKE ARE PEACE AND QUIET AT OUR HOUSES AND JUST IMAGINE THEY'RE BUILDING 20 SOMETHING MORE RESIDENTS. 
          WE ALL KNOW THAT REALLY PEOPLE DON'T USE THE GARAGES TO PARK THEIR CARS, THE MAJORITY OF US. 
          SO WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK THOSE EXTRA CARS? THERE'S NO PARKING IN OUR STREETS ALREADY, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INSIDE THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THEY SAID THEY HAVE SOME EXTRAS, BUT WHEN THE VISITORS COMES, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA USE MARION STREET. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE CONGESTED AND, AND INCREASE, AND NOT ONLY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT TO THAT BUILDING ALSO TO GET IN AND OUT FOR EMERGENCIES. 
          SO I'M, I'M A OPPOSED, SO SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. PEREZ. 
          OH, I'M EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT YOUR NAME ACTUALLY IS. 
           WITH AN ACCENT ON. 
          GOOD EVENING, SIR. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. 
          YOU GOTTA SHOW FATHER YOUR SHIRT. 
          I THINK FATHER WOULD LIKE THAT. 
          SHIRT, SHIRT, . 
          I, I'M SO CONFLICTED BECAUSE, UM, I'M THE MAN IN THE PICTURE THERE AT NINE 60 WALKER AND, UM, THE ONLY REASON I MOVED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SO THAT MY CHILD COULD GO TO OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE. 
          AND I FEEL IT'S SAFE COMMUNITY, THE DEAD END, THE CUL-DE-SAC IS WHAT WE LOOK FOR. 
          THANK YOU TO MY NEIGHBORS FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND, UH, IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING TO COME TOGETHER FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          UM, I WASN'T GONNA SPEAK. 
          I LET GOD AND MY PRAYERS DO KIND OF THE SPEAKING FOR ME, BUT THERE WAS A FEW THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT WERE ACTUALLY CONCERNED FOR ME THAT 12 FOOT, UH, DISTANCE FROM MY PROPERTY. 
          UM, I CAN'T COME OUT IN MY UNDERWEAR ANYMORE. 
          . 
          I HAVEN'T HAD SIX NEW HOMES. 
          UM, I KNOW MR. DOUG PROMISED MAYBE SOME BIGGER TREES. 
          UM, THE OTHER CONCERN I HAD IS I HEARD YOU SAY BALCONY. 
          SIR, PLEASE, IF I COULD GET NO BALCONIES IN THAT AREA WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY IN THE BUSINESS THAT I'M IN. 
          UM, I DEAL WITH SAFETY. 
          I PROTECT PEOPLE CONSTANTLY AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? I HOPE THERE'S A VERY, UH, SERIOUS WAY OF DOING THE APPLICATIONS RIGHT. 
          UH, MAKING SURE I DON'T GET ANY SEX OFFENDERS IN MY COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT I GET APPROPRIATE RENTERS THERE. 
          SO I HOPE THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS GOOD. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WAS A CONCERN, AND I SPEAK FOR SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT COULDN'T COME HERE WAS, UM, THE STREET AND THE STREETLIGHT. 
          DEFINITELY IF THERE'S A, A ABILITY FOR IN YOUR HANDS TO HAVE A STREETLIGHT. 
          IF WE GET THIS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, 
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I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE AND WE ALL DO THAT, THEY'RE ALLOTTED FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES, BUT IT'S GONNA BE DOUBLE THAT. 
          IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT. 
          SO, UM, I CAN'T GET OUT WHEN I HAVE TO RESPOND TO MY EMERGENCIES THAT I GO TO, UM, ESPECIALLY ON A SUNDAY. 
          SO A STREETLIGHT, I'D DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THAT GRADE FROM WHERE THE PROPOSED, UH, COMPLEX IS GONNA BE, UH, UP IS KIND OF AN UPHILL GRADE. 
          SO I AGREE WITH MY OTHER NEIGHBOR TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S THE CONCERN THERE. 
          UM, IF IT COULD BE A, UM, MAYBE NOT A SPEED BUMP 'CAUSE I DRIVE LOWER CARS AND MAYBE IT WON'T GET IN THAT WAY, BUT SOMETHING MAYBE THOSE LITTLE BUMPS ON THE ROAD. 
          SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC SLOWS DOWN. 
          UM, I'VE LISTENED TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS CONCERNED, AND IT'S TRUE. 
          LA HABRA HAS GONE THROUGH SOME TRAGIC INCIDENTS WITH THE LA HABRA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. 
          IF ANY OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE WATCHING OR ANY OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS HERE, I DEFINITELY MY CONDOLENCES WITH THEM. 
          BUT TRAFFIC IS SUCH A SERIOUS CONCERN. 
          UM, WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE ARE. 
          I PRAY THAT THE ARCHANGEL ST. 
          MICHAEL GIVES US ALL THE GUIDANCE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS HERE TODAY OR IN THE NEXT FOLLOWING WEEKS OR MONTHS. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE TREES. 
          UH, I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY PROPERTY IN THE SENSE, AND HE'S ALREADY RELIEVED. 
          SOME OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT, UM, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING AS THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE IT'S A HIGHER GRADE. 
          ALSO IN MY PROPERTY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER GRADE, SO IF THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL, SO THAT I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT MY PROPERTY MOVING OVER. 
          I I KNOW NOBODY HAS ADDRESSED IT HERE OF MY NEIGHBORS. 
          MAYBE NOBODY'S AFFECTED. 
          BUT, UM, THAT TRAIN THAT RUNS ON GUADALUPE PARK DEFINITELY HAS CAUSED MAJOR CRACKS IN MY FOUNDATION, AND I'M AWARE OF ALSO SOME NEIGHBORS. 
          SO, UM, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO MAINTAIN THAT DIRT ON OUR SIDE OF THE, ON OUR SIDE OF THE HOMES AND MAKE OUR FOUNDATION STABLE. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION IN REGARDS TO MY COMMENTS AND, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          JOSE, COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? OH, I WAS SO EXCITED TO COME UP HERE. 
          . 
          IT'S, UH, JOSE DIAZ, FLORES, F-L-O-R-E-S. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          AT THIS TIME I WOULD INVITE THE, THIS STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR US WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK, UM, IF YOU WISH TO OFFER REBUTTAL ADDRESS, ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD OR ANY OTHER THOUGHTS TO SHARE. 
          THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND, AND BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT AMERICAN SPIRIT, REALLY IS GREAT. 
          A A COUPLE THINGS. 
          UM, UH, DARRELL MENTIONED BAL, THERE'S NO, THERE ARE NO BALCONIES. 
          I THINK HE WAS REFERRING A DECORATIVE, UM, IRON ELEMENT. 
          THERE ARE NO BALCONIES, SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BE IN YOUR UNDERWEAR. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
           THAT . 
          UM, ALSO, UM, MR. DUR, UM, WE, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS JULY OF LAST YEAR. 
          AND I, I MET A NUMBER OF THE NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING MR. DURRAN, AND HE EXPRESSED TO ME AT THAT TIME CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, HE ACTUALLY SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW ABOUT AN ISLAND TO SLOW THINGS DOWN? WE LOOKED AT THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY ON WALKER TO HAVE AN ISLAND, TWO LANES OF TRAVEL THAT WOULD MEET FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 
          HOWEVER, WHAT I DID DO WAS WE PUT IN THE STAMP CONCRETE OF THE PAVERS AT THE ENTRANCE. 
          TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING, THERE'S A CHANGE IN PA PAVING, IT SORT OF TELLS THEM SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN. 
          AND THAT WAS MY INTENT TO HELP IN THAT RESPECT. 
          UM, ANYWAYS, SO I, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALSO THE, THE CITY REQUIRED OR CITY STAFF REQUIRED US TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY OR TRAFFIC REPORT DONE. 
          THEY LOOKED AT, UH, THE VMT, ET CETERA, AND, AND IT'S IN DARRYL'S REPORT. 
          I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UH, BUT IT WAS ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT ADDING ANY MORE DENSITY THAN WAS ALREADY PLANNED BY THE CITY. 
          UM, THE ZONING AND THE GENERAL PLAN ALLOWS THESE 21 UNITS. 
          SO IT'S, THE CITY HAS ALREADY PLANNED FOR THOSE 21 UNITS AND WE ARE JUST FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE CITY'S VISION FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO, TO RESPOND. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WOODWARD. 
          OKAY, WE'RE, WE'LL LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR NOW. 
          UM, WE WON'T TURN THIS INTO A BACK AND FORTH THOUGH BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT JUST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FORMALLY TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF, UH, STAFF IF WE NEED TO. 
          SO I, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION JUST FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR THOUGHTS AS WE YOU WANNA GO? OH, I DEFINITELY WANNA GO, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M PROBABLY GONNA 
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BE ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO ASK THIS OF THE CHURCH REPRESENTATIVE SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M JUST GONNA GO FOR THE GUSTO HERE. 
          WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING A PARKING STRUCTURE FOR THE CHURCH TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS FOR PARKING? AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIG ASK, BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST SAY NO, THERE ARE NO CHANCES OR WE COULD SAY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT MIGHT, I DUNNO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. 
          I DO IT. 
          IT'S OUTTA MY PURVIEW. 
          I'LL, I'LL ASK FATHER TO, SORRY. 
          I THROWN YOU. 
          THROW THE CURVE BALL AT YOU. 
          I, I'M JUST WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BUT I'LL LET FATHER RESPOND TO, I THINK A CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKING, HOW PARKING'S HANDLED AND HOW THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND I'LL LET FATHER SPEAK TO THAT. 
          AND I'M SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, LIKE SERIOUSLY . 
          OKAY. 
          SCOTT MILLER, I CAN ANSWER FOR FATHER, SINCE HE'S NEW TO YOUR, AFTER BEING HERE 34 YEARS, IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT PROPERTY BACK THERE AND THE FENCING, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT UP PROPER FENCING AND TO EVEN FINISH IT OFF AS A FIELD OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          SO IT'S JUST A DILAPIDATED PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT'S JUST NOT IN THERE. 
          MAYBE MR. MILLER, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN ON THE BACK OF HER QUESTION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE SITE THAT PARCEL'S GETTING CREATED AND IT'S KIND OF CUT CUTTING THE SOFTBALL FIELD THAT'S BACK THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WAS USED FAIRLY RECENTLY. 
          UM, KIND OF CUTTING THAT IN HALF. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE SOME GRASS THERE, SOME, YOU KNOW, REMNANTS OF A SOFTBALL FIELD. 
          THERE WERE, WERE THERE ANY PLANS TO DEVELOP THAT TO YOU KNOW, ADD MORE PARKING. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF MAYBE WHERE SHE WAS HEADED. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS A FINANCIAL COMPONENT AND I DON'T, THAT'S NOT WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, SO I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT. 
          BUT YOU, YOU REFERENCED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK THE THOUGHT BEHIND THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE MORE PARKING DOWN THE ROAD? HE GETS ME. 
          I WAS, I WAS JUST PICTURING THE, THE PARKING STRUCTURE OVER AT EVANGELICAL FREE IN, UH, BREA, AND I WAS REMEMBERING WHEN THEY WERE WORKING ON DEVELOPING STUFF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID WAS THAT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE THAT FANCY. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT IF I MAY, UM,  IS ABSOLUTELY, THERE IS SOME OF THAT AREA, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SCHOOL THAT CAN'T, IT STILL IS USED FOR PARKING IN THAT FIELD. 
          AND NOW AFTER HEARING THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, IT IS BAD ON THAT STREET WHEN THERE IS, BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT I, I THINK, I KNOW FATHER WILL CONCUR WITH ME OF REMINDING OUR PARISHIONERS TO USE OUR PARKING STRUCTURE BECAUSE OUR PARKING IS NOT FULL ON SUNDAYS NECESSARILY. 
          IT'S JUST THE CONVENIENCE PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET FOR CONVENIENCE TO THEM TO GET IN AND OUT QUICKER. 
          SURE. 
          BUT, UM, DEFINITELY PART OF THAT FIELD THAT'S STILL ALL OPEN FOR RENOVATION, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT. 
          AND THEY'RE, THAT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY. 
          THERE'S ALSO TWO MODULARS ON THERE THAT PROBABLY WILL BE COMING DOWN IN THE SOMEWHAT DISTANCE FUTURE, AND THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE PARKING. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THERE THAT COULD BE PARKING. 
          IT'S NOT IN THIS PLAN. 
          WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT COULD REALLY BE PARKING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. 
          GO AHEAD, MR. WOODWARD. 
          I JUST WANNA ADD ONE MORE THING. 
          UH, THE SOFTBALL FIELD HAD BEEN BEING USED BY ROSEMARY HIGH SCHOOL. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THEY HAVE FOUND ANOTHER PLACE CLOSER TO THEIR SCHOOL. 
          AND SO, UM, THEY'RE NO LONGER, THERE USED TO BE GREAT SIGNS SAYING, HOME OF ROSARY, THAT'S ALL GONE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU THAT SOFTBALL FIELD IS NO LONGER GONNA BE USED. 
          UM, AND, AND A PORTION OF IT IS BEING BUILT UPON WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD, KEEP GOING. 
          UM, UM, OH, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IF, IF, I MAY JUST ADD THIS ONE POINT TO WHAT SCOTT MILLER AND DOUG WOODWARD HAVE SAID, AND THAT IS JUST THAT AS A PARISH OF THE DIOCESE OF ORANGE, SOME OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS, OR INDEED ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WITH THE DIOCESE OF ORANGE AS THE OVERALL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SUPERSTRUCTURE OF WHICH THE DI UH, OF WHICH THE PARISH IS APART. 
          SO I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY DECISIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE DECISIONS, ULTIMATELY, OF THE DIOCESE, NOT JUST OF THE PARISH CHURCH HIERARCHY. 
          THANK YOU, FATHER. 
          UM, THIS QUESTION, I, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS TO TELL ME WHO CAN ANSWER IT, BUT WHEN CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY THAT THE LOT LINE IS BEING ADJUSTED DOESN'T MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE INGRESS 
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OR EGRESS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          WAS THERE A REASON WHY WE DIDN'T, WHEN I SAY WE, YOU DIDN'T, UM, MAYBE ADJUST THE LOT LINE SO THAT THERE COULD BE INGRESS, AN EGRESS, OR IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE FROM THERE? BECAUSE I NOTICE ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE, SO YOU CAN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, POP OUT. 
          I KNOW. 
          PUT A GATE THERE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY ACCESS TO GET TO MONTE VISTA. 
          THERE, THERE IS NO ACCESS THROUGH THERE. 
          SO IF WE LOOK EVEN FURTHER UP CLOSER TO WHERE THE, THE SAND IS FOR THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE SOFTBALL FIELD UP THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A LANE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ALLEYWAY OR A CITY STREET. 
          I CAN'T TELL FROM DARRYL. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE AND LET'S JUST SEE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, VICE CHAIR MACHA, MAYBE NOT THAT ONE THE RIGHT SIDE. 
          SO THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE TO REACH MONTE VISTA, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LARGER SITE WITH THAT INCLUDES ALL THE SURROUNDING STREETS AND EVEN THE HABRA BOULEVARD, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A SPACE. 
          OKAY, THERE WE GO. 
          LET'S TALK HERE. 
          IT'S JUST OFF THE PARKING LOT. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIRD AVENUE THERE. 
          THERE'S, OH, THERE WE GO BY THE, WHERE THE SOFTBALL FIELD IS. 
          OKAY. 
          OVER TO THE, MY RIGHT. 
          OUR, OUR RIGHT. 
          IF WE'RE LOOKING TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO DARRELL COMING IN OFF OF MONTE VISTA, THERE'S, UM, IT SAYS THE MONTE VISTA MANOR APARTMENTS. 
          IS THAT A PRIVATE ALLEYWAY ALLEY? YES. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND FURTHER, UH, THOSE APARTMENTS ARE SEPARATED BY A GRADE. 
          SO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE AT GRADE WHERE YOU'RE ENTERING FROM WALKER, BUT WHEN YOU GET OVER TO MONTE VISTA, THERE'S A SEPARATION BETWEEN FIVE AND EIGHT FEET WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE RETAINING WALLS, UH, ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO THAT REALLY, AND, AND WITH THAT TYPE OF GRADE DIFFERENTIAL BEING THAT CLOSE, THERE'S REALLY NOT A, A FEASIBLE WAY OF KIND OF GETTING A STREET OR A PATH THROUGH THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AT LEAST NOT FOR VEHICLES. 
          GOT IT. 
          STOP. 
          SORRY TO STEP ON YOUR QUESTION. 
          NO, YOU'RE NOT STEPPING ON MY QUESTIONS. 
          YOU'RE ADDING TO MY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU GOOD, COMMISSIONER SLAND? I, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT I MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CARDANIS? THERE WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. 
          UM, STREET SWEEPER WITH IT, GOING TO THAT PROPERTY, THE, THE PROPERTY, THOSE ARE PRIVATE STREETS THAT WE MUST MAINTAIN. 
          UM, MY COMMENT EARLIER WAS THAT THE, THE CITY WITH THE EASEMENT WE'RE PROVIDING THE CITY FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, UH, TRASH TRUCKS, THE STREET SWEEP INSTEAD OF CAN, CAN USE THE CUL-DE-SAC TO TURN AROUND, BUT THEY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY OR NO FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR THIS PROJECT WHATSOEVER. 
          DID I GET YOU? YES, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING, CURRENTLY, DO PEOPLE GET OUT FROM THE, WHO ATTEND THE CHURCH? DO THEY GET OUT OF THIRD STREET? YEAH. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME IN AND OUT OF THE PARKING LOT THAT SOUTH PARKING LOT OFF OF THIRD AVENUE. 
          THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD ACCESS IT FOR SOFTBALL AND, AND FOR, FOR PARKING ON SUNDAYS. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT GATE IS OPEN THERE, FATHER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SO THEY CAN COME SO YEAH. 
          PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND OUT OF THIRD. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS SUGGESTED BY A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT PERHAPS WE COULD OPEN THAT ONE. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD MEAN CHANGING THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND EXITING THAT WAY. 
          HAS THAT BEEN EXPLORED? I THINK THE, UH, SO THE QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS, YOU KNOW, TO ALLEVIATE ALL OF THE EGRESS AND INGRESS FROM WALKER TO ADDING SOME ACCESSIBILITY TO THE PROJECT SITE ON THIRD AVENUE TO THE STREET JUST NORTH OF WALKER. 
          UM, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CARDENAS IS ASKING, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS EVER LOOKED AT BY THE DIOCESE OR YEAH, WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT, CONSIDERED IT A COUPLE THINGS. 
          THERE WAS SOME FOLKS WHO SAID, LET'S JUST HAVE THE ACCESS OFF THIRD AVENUE AND NO ACCESS OFF WALKER. 
          FRANKLY, YOU'RE KIND OF ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF WE, IF WE DRIVE PEOPLE BY WALKER, THAT'S A, A BURDEN TO THEM. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DRIVE 'EM BY THIRD STREET, IT'S A BURDEN TO THEM. 
          UM, WE HAVE LEGAL PO WE HAVE LEGAL ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FROM WALKER, THE STREET THAT ENDS TO THERE. 
          AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A STREET UP TO THIRD STREET, IT JUST PUTS A BURDEN ON THAT PROPERTY AND PUTS A BURDEN ON A MORE BURDEN ON PEOPLE ON THIRD STREET. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S A CHALLENGE, BUT WE LOOKED AT IT, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CHOSE TO DO. 
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OKAY. 
          YOU GOT SOMETHING TO ADD? GO AHEAD. 
          I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY, AND IT MIGHT BE BEYOND MY PURVIEW, SO PLEASE TELL ME IF IT IS BRITTANY. 
          BRITTANY, LISTEN UP. 
          . 
          CAN WE GET THEM A STREET LAMP? CAN WE GET THEM A STREETLIGHT? I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? I MEAN, WE HEAR THIS IS, WE HEARD THIS REPEATEDLY. 
          YOU MEAN FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY OR FOR, UH, FOR THE WALKER MARION AREA. 
          WELL, I, I HEARD A COUPLE THINGS AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T THE TIME FOR US TO GO BACK AND FORTH. 
          I'LL GET IN TROUBLE IF WE DO THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT, UM, THERE, AND I THINK BOTH OF THEM ARE FAIR QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          THERE WAS REFERENCE TO, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, I, I I, I'M ASSUMING ON LA HABER BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW, TO AND FROM, AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT CROSSWALK THERE AND, AND SOMEBODY INDICATED THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T STOP. 
          I THINK THAT WAS MS. PETRI WHO, WHO SHARED THAT. 
          UM, AND MAYBE PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID STREETLIGHT, DID YOU MEAN SIGNAL? UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN I SAID IT, WHAT WAS, PARDON, UH, WHEN I SAID IT, I, I, I MEANT THE, I I ASSUMED THAT ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE MEANT THAT THEY WANTED A LIGHT SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE THERE WOULD BE EGRESS AND INGRESS OUT OF THE, THAT SITE, BUT ALSO THAT ANOTHER PERSON MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN LAHABRA AND MARIAN. 
          SO WHILE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ISN'T REALLY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT NECESSARILY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WAS THINKING MORE ABOUT THE LIGHT, IF WE COULD GET THEM. 
          I, I, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE CONCERN THAT THE PERSON BROUGHT UP. 
          I THINK WE HEARD ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND SO ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT JUST THE POSSIBILITY OF LIKE A, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL GOING INTO THE PROJECT SITE? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          SO I'M CON SO YOU'RE, I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A STREET LIGHTS, LIKE A STREET LIGHT ON POLE STREET STREETLIGHTS? YES. 
          THE WORD THAT I USED WHERE, WHERE I, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M, I DIDN'T  I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WAS ASKING FOR THAT. 
          I SEE. 
          I THOUGHT, I MEANT, THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT IS THEY WERE ASKING FOR A SIGNALED INTERSECTION. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          IS THAT, I THINK THAT WAS MAYBE ALL OF THE ABOVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, DOING A SIGNALED INTERSECTION UP THERE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WE'RE HERE TO REVIEW DOESN'T WARRANT ADDING A STREETLIGHT OR THAT WOULD'VE SHOWN UP IN THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. 
          THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT ABOUT BACK, YOU SAID STREETLIGHT, THOUGH WE STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. 
          WE SHOULD LET STAFF ACTUALLY TALK AND WE SHOULD STOP AND LISTEN. 
          YEAH, I, I'LL, I'LL PARTNER WITH THE, THE TEAM HERE BECAUSE THERE'S, UH, THERE'S NO STREETLIGHT PROPOSED OR, OR ANY KIND OF LIGHT SIGNAL PROPOSED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM WALKER. 
          UM, BUT THEY HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT DOING THINGS LIKE, UH, THE STAMP COLORED CONCRETE TO HAVE SORT OF A PHYSICAL SEPARATION, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT SIGNAGE THAT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO THEY, THEY CAN PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEIR SIGNAGE PLAN LOOKS LIKE FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR QUESTION WAS GETTING INTO WHETHER OR NOT THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE LIGHTING IN IT, BECAUSE THERE IS A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THAT, AND IT DOES A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING ALL THE LIGHTING ON SITE AND IT DOESN'T SPILL OVER TO THE CHURCH OR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          BUT, BUT YEAH, MOSTLY WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE AT THAT INTEREST, IT'S GONNA BE DONE WITH SIGNAGE AND WITH, UM, DIFFERENTIAL CONCRETE SO YOU CAN TALK MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE TALKED A A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          I KNOW THERE, THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF THERE, THERE WASN'T A TRAFFIC STUDY THERE, THERE WASN'T TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          UM, CAN YOU JUST RE RE-CLARIFY THAT FOR US PLEASE? YES. 
          UM, THE PROJECT WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. 
          UM, JUST TO, TO BE GENERAL, BECAUSE I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, AND IT IS A BIT OUTTA MY DEPTH, BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY LOOKS AT A HOUSING TYPE, A CERTAIN HOUSING TYPE GENERATES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TRIPS. 
          HMM. 
          AND SO, BASED OFF OF THESE BEING ESSENTIALLY ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY APARTMENTS, UH, THEY LOOKED AT THE TRIP GENERATION FROM THAT. 
          UM, THE CITY ORDINANCE SAYS THAT IF YOU EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRIPS, UH, THEN IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL STUDY. 
          THAT NUMBER IS, I BELIEVE, 200 TRIPS. 
          THIS IS GENERATING ABOUT 151 THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT, AND THAT NUMBER DARYL, IS CALCULATED OFF OF JUST SOME STANDARD AS, AS A PART OF THE STUDY. 
          THEY PUT IT INTO A BLACK BOX. 
          IT IS A PROGRAM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE, THE HOUSING TYPE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, YOU PLUG THAT IN, IT'S GONNA GENERATE SO MANY TRIPS OUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          THAT'S 151. 
          THEY'RE GONNA TAKE 
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A LOOK AT THOSE SPLITS BETWEEN PEAK HOUR TRIPS IN THE MORNING AND PEAK HOUR TRIPS IN THE EVENING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA JUDGE HOW MANY OF THOSE TRIPS, UM, ACTUALLY COME INTO THE, THE, THE POINT WHERE OUR ORDINANCE IS GONNA SAY, WE, WE NEED ADDITIONAL STUDY. 
          AND THEY JUST DON'T, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO EXCEED, I THINK, 50 TRIPS, UH, DURING ONE OF THOSE PEAK HOURS, UH, EITHER IN THE MORNING OR IN THE EVENING. 
          AND IT DOES NOT, YOU HAVE, I THINK 10 AND 12 VERY SMALL NUMBERS, ROUGHLY HALF OF WHAT'S, UM, UM, TRIGGERING IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ORDINANCE. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING ABOUT THAT? AND, AND I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO OUT OF OUR PURVIEW HERE. 
          UH, SO CITY ATTORNEY, YOU COULD JUMP IN IF I'M GOING ASTRAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE STANDARDS ARE THOSE STANDARDS. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY LOOK AT THOSE STANDARDS AND DO OUR OWN ANALYSIS AND SAY, THAT SEEMS LOW, THAT SEEMS HIGH. 
          UH, AND, AND REALLY THOSE STANDARDS ARE WHAT SET THE COURSE FOR WHAT MAY COME AFTER THAT OR WHAT MAY NOT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND IF, JUST FOR, FOR OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND FOR THE COMMUNITY'S UNDERSTANDING, UM, WHO SETS THOSE STANDARDS? UM, IS THAT CITYWIDE? IS THAT COUNTYWIDE? IS THAT STATEWIDE? UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, UH, UH, I BELIEVE THE STANDARD, THE STANDARD IS FEDERAL AND IT'S THE INSTITUTE OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY LOOK AT THESE THINGS LIKE THE HOUSING TYPES, AND THEY, THEY HAVE THE PROGRAMS THAT SORT OF DEFINE HOW THESE THINGS ARE GONNA GENERATE TRIPS. 
          UM, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT WITH RESPECT TO OUR ORDINANCE AND SAY WHETHER OR NOT THIS NUMBER OF TRIPS ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, IF WE EXPECT TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF A SERVICE IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          AND IF IT DOESN'T, UH, THEN WE REALLY AREN'T REQUIRED TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, STUDIES IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT NET SOUTH TO HAVE A, A RELATIVELY, UH, INCONSEQUENTIAL IMPACT OVERALL. 
          I, I KNOW IT'S CONSEQUENTIAL IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL ON THE GROUND. 
          SURE. 
          UH, PICTURE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AND NOT TO BE, UH, UH, UNDERESTIMATED, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, UH, IT DOESN'T EXCEED ANY THRESHOLD THAT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL STUDY OR AN EIR OR ANY OTHER SORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UH, ANALYSIS. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA GET INTO THE EIR RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          SO WHAT WOULD'VE NEEDED TO HAPPEN, OR, OR WHAT WOULD BE THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE AN EIR WOULD BE REQUIRED? RIGHT. 
          AN EIR IS REQUIRED WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, UN MITIGATABLE IMPACTS IN VARIOUS AREAS. 
          SO AN EIR IS GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE LAND USE, IT'LL LOOK AT AESTHETICS, IT'LL LOOK AT NOISE, IT'LL LOOK AT TRAFFIC, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, BIOLOGY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE IMPACTS THAT EXCEEDS CERTAIN LEVELS OF THRESHOLDS, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF IT EXCEEDS THAT, AND IF YOU CANNOT MITIGATE IT BY MAKING A CHANGE TO THE PROJECT, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF IT EXCEEDED THE THRESHOLD, MAYBE YOU'D, UH, CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT THE CONFIGURATION OF THE HOMES IN ORDER TO LESSEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT. 
          UM, MAYBE YOU WOULD LOOK AT HAVING TWO OUTLETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO LESSEN THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. 
          BUT IF YOU CAN'T MITIGATE IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT THAT SAYS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN IMPACTS THAT WE CANNOT MITIGATE. 
          HOWEVER, WE THINK THAT THERE'S OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS THAT THIS PROJECT IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE'RE STILL RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT NEAR THAT THRESHOLD AND WE'RE NOT THERE. 
          SO NO EER IR, MR. CHAIR, JUST AS TO ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR A TYPE 32 EXEMPTION, AND IS, THAT'S BASICALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LESS THAN FIVE ACRES THAT COMPLIES WITH ALL THE ZONING ORDINANCES AND LAND USE REGULATIONS IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, WHICH THIS PROJECT DOES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY AN EIR WOULD NOT HAVE EVER BEEN REQUIRED FOR A PROJECT TO THIS SIZE. 
          SO AN ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL FACTOR THERE, I, I WANT TO GO BACK TO EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO CERTAINLY MYSELF AND I THINK THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, BEING A RESIDENT OF LAHABRA, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA. 
          THE STREETS ARE NARROW. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THOSE STREETS WERE BEING DEVELOPED AND THOSE TRACKS WERE BEING BUILT 70 PLUS YEARS AGO, PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY CARS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS WASN'T THE FORETHOUGHT, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT WE'D BE SITTING HERE TODAY DISCUSSING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT YOU HAVE CARS, YOU KNOW, PARKED ON THE STREET AND EMER EMERGENCY SERVICES, YOU KNOW, COMING IN OR, OR GETTING OUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC. 
          AND, UM, AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT IS CONCERNED, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, GETS FLOATED BY THESE EMERGENCY SERVICE PARTNERS? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT 
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FIRE IS, IS REVIEWED ALREADY WILL REVIEW? NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, UH, FIRE IS A PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS ALL ALONG. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE PROJECT, UH, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE REVIEWS WITH FIRE AGAIN, UM, THAT, THAT CUL-DE-SAC IS ACTUALLY A FIRE DEPARTMENT TURNAROUND THAT WAS BORROWED FROM THEM IN ORDER TO FACILITATE, UH, A CUL-DE-SAC LIKE EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE STREET WIDTHS, UM, ALL OF THOSE UNITS ARE ACTUALLY SPRINKLED, RIGHT? THEY ALL HAVE SPRINKLERS IN 'EM. 
          SO THEY, UH, THEY HAVE THAT AS, AS FAR AS SAFETY PROTECTION FOR THE BUILDINGS. 
          UM, BUT FIRE IS A PART OF ALL OF THESE REVIEWS, UH, AND NOTHING, UH, GETS SIGNED OFF WITHOUT THEIR, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          UM, THEY ALSO GO OFFSITE AND THEY LOOK AT THE FIRE HYDRANTS, UM, UH, NEARBY THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE FLOW. 
          UM, AND THAT TEST WAS DONE AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, THAT PASSED WITH FLYING, FLYING COLORS. 
          UH, THEY ARE SO PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL FIRE HYDRANT, UH, ON THAT, UH, THAT BANK OF SIX UNITS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL FIRE HYDRANT ON SITE THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, UH, REVIEWING THIS THROUGHOUT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE HARD AND FAST AND MADE A PART OF THE PLANS THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN CAN WE CIRCLE BACK TO THE, AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE APPLICANT OR DARRELL, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER IT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, ON, ON THE SITE PLANS, ACCESS TO GUADALUPE PARK, NO ACCESS TO GUADALUPE PARK, NO ACCESS. 
          I DIDN'T BELIEVE THERE WAS NO, NO. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE A 331 FOOT BLOCK WALL, A SIX FOOT BLOCK WALL WITH NO GATE, NO DOOR, NO ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOBODY, NOBODY COMING INTO THE PARK FROM THERE. 
          NOBODY LEAVING INTO THE PARK FROM THE PROPERTY. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, I, I JUST KINDA HAVE A QUEST, A QUESTION AND JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE REQUIRE, YOU'RE HAVING TWO AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND I SEE WE HAVE TWO ACCESSIBLE UNITS AND WE KIND OF MAKE, MAKE IT SO THAT ONE OF THOSE ACCESSIBLE UNITS AS AN AFFORDABLE UNIT. 
          I, I CAN'T MAKE YOU DO THAT. 
          I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU GUYS WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT IS, SO LET THE RECORDS SHOW THAT THE APPLICANT NODDED AFFIRMATIVELY,  AND, AND, UM, MR. CHAIR, I THINK THERE WAS SOME OTHER QUESTIONS TOO THAT I HAD IN HERE ABOUT, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING. 
          I'M, I'M, MAYBE GERALD CAN ADDRESS THE GRADING AND HOW THEY'RE HANDLING WATER ON THE SITE, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, UH, WITH THE SET OF PLANS THAT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT, THERE IS A, UH, UH, A UTILITY PLAN, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE SITE ROUGHLY FLOWS, UH, SOUTH AND WESTWARD, UH, THE WAY IT'S GONNA BE GRADED WHEN COMPLETED. 
          UM, AND THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO PICK UP THAT WATER THAT'S GONNA BE FLOWING ACROSS THE SITE AND DISTRIBUTING IT OUT INTO THE, UM, THE CONNECTING STORM DRAIN SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES WITH FLOODING FROM THE SITE. 
          THAT'S ALL GONNA BE PICKED UP BY THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM AND THEN SHUT IT OFF SITE AND DEALT WITH APPROPRIATELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND I'D JUST LIKE, JUST TO KIND OF THROW A COMMENT OUT THERE ABOUT THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. 
          UM, THIS IS A VERY UNUSUAL LOT IN, IN 99% OF THE PLACES IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SIDE PROPERTY LINE, NOT A FRONT, IT'S JUST A FRONT, IT'S KIND OF THE SEMANTICS THINGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE, WHERE, THAT'S WHERE THE STREET COMES IN, WHICH IS LIKE CRITICAL TO NOTE BECAUSE IF IT WERE A SIDE THAT REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE FIVE FEET WOULD BE FIVE FEET, NOT 10 FEET. 
          SO I THINK THEY'VE DONE A, A GOOD JOB OF, OF TRYING TO PROVIDE THE BUFFER ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE TO, TO THAT THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND HOPEFULLY THE LANDSCAPING ALL ALL HELP WITH A LITTLE BIT WITH THEIR PRIVACY. 
          I'LL RUN THAT, UM, JUST LIKE TALKING ABOUT PARKING FOR A SECOND. 
          UM, SO THREE SPACES PER UNIT REQUIRED BY, YOU KNOW, THE CODE FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, 42 IN GARAGES AND 21 UNCOVERED. 
          WE SEE THOSE IN THE SITE PLAN. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MARIAN AND WALKER THIRD RIGHT THERE ARE JUST NORMAL LAHABRA PERMIT PARKING ONLY OVERNIGHT. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I'M, I'M NOT AN EXPERT 
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IN WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO OBTAIN THOSE PARKING PERMITS, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO NOTE. 
          UM, AND, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT PARKING UP HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW VICE CHAIRMAN HUTCH HAS BEEN PRETTY VOCAL ABOUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN POINT THE FINGER AT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AS, AS THEM BEING THE OFFENDERS OF, YOU KNOW, OVER PARKING. 
          UM, BUT OFTEN TIMES IT COULD ALSO BE THE CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE OVER PARKING. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT'S A JUST A, A COMMENT THERE. 
          DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO, TO ADD? I, I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA BE IN MY YES, BECAUSE STATEMENT. 
          UM, I LIVE IN AN AREA WITH VERY NARROW STREETS AND IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD. 
          LIKE I GET IT WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHERE YOU CAN ONLY PASS BY ONE CAR AT A TIME. 
          AND I'M REALLY VOCAL ABOUT IT. 
          I'M VOCAL ABOUT IT WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          I TALK TO ANYBODY WHO WILL LISTEN, I WILL BRING THEM TO MY HOUSE AND I WILL SHOW THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN ON MY STREET AND THERE'S, IT'S A ROUTE TO, TO THE SCHOOLS AND THERE'S BUS STOPS AND ALL THAT. 
          SO I GET REALLY, YOU KNOW, I GET IT. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT SOLVE. 
          IT MEANS, YOU KNOW, WIDENING STREETS AND THAT MEANS BUYING PROPERTY BACK FROM PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. 
          AND, AND TO RE REITERATE WHAT HE SAID IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND THE PARKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY REQUIRE LIKE THE HOAS FOR THE, THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE FOR SALE. 
          WE CAN REQUIRE CCNRS THAT, UM, MAKE THEM USE THEIR GARAGES AS GARAGES. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT. 
          ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO ARE HERE, WHO ARE ADJACENT, I CAN'T MAKE YOU USE YOUR GARAGE FOR YOUR CARS, BUT I CAN MAKE THE PEOPLE IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE LIKE, WE THINK THESE ARE VERY HARD PROBLEMS TO SOLVE AND I CAN'T, WE CAN'T SOLVE THEM IN THESE MEETINGS, AT LEAST NOT IN ONE MEETING. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL, I DUNNO, THERE'LL BE SOME IMPETUS TO DO SOME SORT OF STUDY ON HOW TO WORK ON THESE MORE NARROW STREETS. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE GET TO SOLVE UP HERE. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY TO THE CHURCH, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS STEPPING UP AND I'M REALLY, UM, EXCITED TO SEE YOU GUYS BECOME LANDLORDS HERE IN THIS CITY. 
          UM, AND I AM GONNA TO, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THIS AND I GO BACK TO THIS IN EVERY DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? AND WE'RE GOING TO MODERATE INCOME, AND WE ALWAYS GO TO THE VERY HIGHEST OF WHAT AFFORDABLE INCOME COULD BE. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE THESE NUMBERS DO NOT REFLECT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THEY DO NOT REFLECT WHAT PEOPLE MAKE IN LA HABRA. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA. 
          THEY'RE GROWING FAMILIES. 
          WE WANT OUR KIDS TO LIVE HERE. 
          WE WANT OUR GRANDKIDS TO LIVE HERE. 
          SO LET'S MAKE IT AFFORDABLE FOR LA HABRA RESIDENTS, NOT JUST EVERYBODY. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, DARRELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 
          UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING SPEED BUMPS OR ADDING THAT. 
          HOW CAN A COMMUNITY MEMBER GET THAT DONE IN THERE IF THEY FEEL THAT THE STREET NEEDS IT? UM, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO, UH, CITY TRAFFIC DEPART, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SEE ABOUT INSTALLING THAT IN A PARTICULAR AREA. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY REVIEW IN PLANNING. 
          I I DO KNOW IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THEY DO HELP PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN ONCE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THEY'RE THERE. 
          BUT, UH, HOW TO ACTUALLY INITIATE THAT, I, I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHO WOULD OKAY. 
          BE THE FIRST PLACE TO STOP. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR, FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. 
          AT THIS TIME WE'LL JUST, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. 
          UM, I'LL JUST BEGIN WITH A COUPLE COMMENTS. 
          I, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THESE PROJECTS THAT WE, WE GET IN HERE, UM, I MEAN, IT'S MAYBE MANY OF YOU'S FIRST TIME HERE IN, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL, UM, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UM, AND WE'RE HERE EVERY OTHER MONDAY. 
          AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THESE PROJECTS CAN BE VIEWED AS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CENTER AISLE, WE'RE ON THIS SIDE, WE'RE ON THAT SIDE. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T VIEW MUCH THAT WAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I TAKE EVERY COMMENT, CONCERN, FEEDBACK VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF 
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THE COMMUNITY AND AS THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S HOW CAN WE GET PROJECTS RIGHT, UH, WITHIN THE PURVIEW AND THE CODE AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A WAY TO WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND SAY, OKAY, YOU NEED 400 PARKING SPACES FOR YOUR 21 UNITS, THAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL A LOT BETTER. 
          AND WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN STREETS CONVERGING THAT YOU CAN ENTER THE PROJECT SITE FROM. 
          AND THAT WOULD MAKE US ALL FEEL A LOT BETTER. 
          IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE THIS NOT A WIN AND A LOSS, BUT A, A, A WIN AND A WIN. 
          WE NEED HOUSING. 
          UM, WE, WE DO. 
          AND THE STATE, YOU KNOW, HAS SAID THAT, AND THE STATE, YOU KNOW, PUTS A LOT OF ONUS ON CITIES TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO DEVELOP HOUSING. 
          AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE ELEMENT OF THIS. 
          AND WHEN YOU HAVE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THIS IS VERY UNIQUE IN THAT INCREDIBLY UNIQUE, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A STAPLE OF THE COMMUNITY IN OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE AND THE DIOCESE OF ORANGE, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR, THEIR BEHALF, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, THAT SAYS, WELL, WE, WE CAN TRY TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THIS, BE A WIN-WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN PARISH COMMUNITY. 
          I, I MEAN, EVERY INCENTIVE I THINK IS, IS ON IS THEIR BACK TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE SITTING HERE AND WE'RE HEARING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DEVELOPER THAT'S COMING FROM WHO KNOWS WHERE, AND THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THESE HOUSES, AND WE'RE GONNA DO ALL WE CAN TO, TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS EFFECTIVE AND GOOD FOR THE CITY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER'S GONNA GO OFF AND DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHER PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE, THE STATE OR THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A, A DEVELOPER THAT'S GONNA COME IN. 
          I'M SURE FATHER GOLDEN WOULD NOT BE THE ONE BUILDING THOSE HOMES. 
          I HOPE NOT. 
          UM, . 
          BUT THEY HAVE EVERY INCENTIVE TO, I MEAN, IF, IF ANYONE HAD AN INCENTIVE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT WOULD BE ANYBODY OTHER THAN A CHURCH. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT WHY I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT OR A BAD PROJECT. 
          I, I THINK IT, UM, IT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA THAT THE PROJECT NEEDS TO MEET IN ORDER FOR US TO APPROVE IT. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO VARIANCES. 
          THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US WHERE WE CAN JUST POINT IN THAT AND PICK AT THAT AND SAY, HEY, UM, WHAT ABOUT THIS? UH, THE CODE IS THE CODE AND THERE'S THINGS THAT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I, I I WANT TO ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW, FOR OKAY, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING EARLIER, IF WE DON'T LIKE THE STANDARDS FOR THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, TRIPS, COUNTS, ALL OF THAT STUFF, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ARGUE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE CARDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HAND, THAT'S THE HAND WE WERE DEALT, UM, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT TO SAY I, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND I, I DON'T THINK I, I HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          YOU COULD BE A TERRIBLE NEIGHBOR. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO, AND I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD DO SO. 
          UM, BUT I I, I HAVE WAY MORE CONFIDENCE IN THIS CASE THAN I, I WOULD IN, IN MANY OTHERS, THAT THE APPLICANT WILL IN FACT BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND THAT THIS WILL BE A WIN-WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AS MUCH AS IT POSSIBLY CAN. 
          SO WITH THAT, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AND I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MO MOTION, BUT I WILL HOLD BACK IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THE RECORD. 
          JUST ONE LAST ONE. 
          OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S HAD THE MOST GREEN SPACES. 
          AND I REALLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE I FIND THAT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS PUT THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT ALL, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF GREEN SPACES HAS ON COMMUNITIES. 
          AND SO THE MORE GREEN SPACES THE BETTER, IN MY OPINION. 
          SO, UM, KUDOS TO YOUR PLAN FOR LANDSCAPING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SHOWING A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AND I AM, AND I LIKE THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I'M HAPPY TO SEE A PROJECT THAT PROVIDES AMPLE PARKING FOR THE PROJECT. 
          THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT WE'VE HAD IN QUITE A WHILE WHERE I'M NOT CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE CARS PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK ALL THE CARS FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARK ON SITE. 
          SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A PLUS. 
          I, OVERALL IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. 
          THIS IS BETTER THAN THE PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1991 FOR MARY'S HOME. 
          I, I THINK THIS IS A MUCH NICER PROJECT AND A MUCH BETTER FIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I WOULD, UH, BE IN FAVOR OF THIS. 
          ANYTHING TO ADD? ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA, CALIFORNIA, 
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MAKING THE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND ONE APPROVING LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT LLA 24 DASH ZERO TWO TO RELOCATE AN EXISTING LOT LINE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A 1.59 ACRE LOT AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          AND TWO, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD 24 DASH 0 0 1 TO CONSTRUCT 21 DWELLING UNITS, APARTMENT HOMES, INCLUDING TWO AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR RENT TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS ON SAID 1.59 ACRE LOT AT THE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 900 TO NINE 70 WEST LAHABRA BOULEVARD ASSESSOR PARCELS NUMBER 2 9 8 1 2 1 0 1 2 9 8 0 1 1, 0 2 1 AND 2 9 8 0 1 1 2 2. 
          AS PER THE APPROVED PLANS AND SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AND MAKING THE DETERMINATION THAT LLA 24 DASH 0 0 0 2 IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL EQUALITY ACT, KNOWN AS CQA PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 5 3 3 2, CLASS 32, INFILL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS OF THE CQA GUIDELINES. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION WAS MADE BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARDENAS. 
          EVERYONE PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          FOUR ZERO. 
          THE LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT WILL BECOME FINAL IN 10 WORKING DAYS. 
          NO, HOLD ON. 
          THAT'S FINAL, RIGHT? IT'S FINAL. 
          THE PUD WILL GO TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, ASHLEY SITTING IN FOR SONIA WHILE SHE'S ON LEAVE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO, UM, OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE IMMEDIATE CALENDAR. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING OF MARCH. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER SLAND, COMMISSIONER CARDENAS, VICE CHAIR. 
          I LOVE IT WHEN YOU SHOW UP EVEN WHEN YOU'RE MAD, EVEN WHEN YOU YELL AT US. 
          I LOVE IT WHEN YOU SHOW UP BECAUSE IT SHOWS ME THAT YOU CARE THAT YOU'RE ENGAGED. 
          AND WE MIGHT NOT ALWAYS AGREE, BUT MAN, I LOVE IT WHEN THIS ROOM IS FULL OF PEOPLE REGARDLESS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP AND TALKING 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO PAY ATTENTION. 
          YEAH, I WILL, WOULD ADD THAT. 
          I JUST ASKED THAT TONIGHT. 
          WE ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. 
          THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT ON HACIENDA AND WHITTIER. 
          UM, GOSH, THERE WAS ONE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND THEN THERE WAS JUST ONE LAST WEEK, UH, WHERE A, A MOTORCYCLIST WAS, WAS KILLED JUST SOUTH OF WHITTIER ON HACIENDA. 
          SO, UM, THAT WE WOULD ADJOURN THIS EVENING IN HIS, IN, IN THEIR MEMORY. 
          UM, AND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF THOSE AFFECTED BY THAT. 
          UM, SO THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO MONDAY, MARCH 24TH, 2025.
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