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[ LA HABRA PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, JULY 13, 2026 6:30 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER 100 EAST LA HABRA BOULEVARD LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA 90631 Please note that should all business not be concluded by 10:00 p.m., the Chair shall either authorize an extension of time to said meeting or continue all unfinished items to a future meeting, date certain, or date uncertain.]
WE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER CARDENAS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE PLAQUE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD IN INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? UH, CHAIR RAMSON HERE.
COMMISSIONER LOGAN CANNON HERE.
SO, WE'LL NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AT LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR PUBLIC, FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR A CITY BUSINESS NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULED AGENDA.
PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 4 0.3 A SUCH COMMENTS SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? ON ITEMS NOT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR OR ITEMS NOT APPEARING ON THE AGENDA.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COMMISSIONER OR CITY STAFF MEMBER REQUESTS SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED.
ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LOAN TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE SPEAKING TIME AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
OKAY, BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH INCLUDES THE MINUTES OF JUNE 8TH, 2026.
THIS ITEM WILL BE APPROVED WITH ONE VOTE UNLESS THE ITEM IS REMOVED.
FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO THE COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF MEMBERS WISH TO REMOVE THIS ITEM? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
UM, MR. CHAIR, BECAUSE YOU, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SAID, COMMENT NOT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
YOU SHOULD OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THOUGHT I SAID BOTH, BUT, OKAY.
SO, CONSENT CALENDAR OR PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO ANYBODY PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST CLAR MAKING SURE THAT NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR BEFORE YOU GUYS TAKE A VOTE, PLEASE.
WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
WILL THE COMMISSIONERS PLEASE VOTE? UM, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UH, THE PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE CHAIR WILL INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN STAFF WILL GIVE A REPORT ON THE ITEM.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM WILL BE RECOGNIZED FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL HEAR FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
REBUTTALS WILL BE ALLOWED ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS THE MATTER AND TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND LEAVE IT AT THE, AT THE PODIUM.
WHEN YOU COME FORWARD TO SPEAK, YOU WILL FIND THE SPEAKER CARDS ON THE TABLE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHAMBER.
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PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.PLEASE ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS TO AND QUESTIONS TO THE CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIRECT EXCHANGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 60 MINUTES.
FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA, LESS MODIFIED BY THE CHAIR, COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON-REPETITIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
SO BEFORE WE, UM, UH, READ THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM FOR TONIGHT, I WILL BE, UH, CRUISING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.
I'LL DO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND WE'LL BE TURNING OVER THE MEETING TO VICE CHAIR CARDENAS AT THIS POINT.
TONIGHT'S FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS A DUALLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT TO CONDUCT A LARGE SPECIAL EVENT THAT INCLUDES A FESTIVAL AND A PARADE, ALSO KNOWN AS LAHABRA HOST LION CLUB CORN FESTIVAL AND PARADE WITH FESTIVAL ACTIVITIES IN AND OUT AROUND CENTRAL LIONS PARK, THREE 20 EAST ERNA AVENUE, ASSESSED PARK CELL NUMBER 9 8 8 DASH 0 8 3 DASH ZERO ONE AND A PARADE ALONG LAHABRA BOULEVARD STARTING FROM 900 WEST LAHABRA BOULEVARD TO 3 47 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND ALONG CYPRESS STREET FROM 3 47 EAST LAHABRA BOULEVARD AND ENDING AT THREE 20 EAST IRNA AVENUE.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY CO CORRESPONDENCE FOR THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NOT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? WE DO.
UH, VICE CHAIR ASH SAED, SENIOR PLANNER, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
AS STATED, THE LAHABRA HOST LIONS CLUB IS REQUESTING CITY APPROVAL TO HOST THEIR 77TH ANNUAL CORN FESTIVAL AND PARADE THE WEEKEND OF AUGUST 21ST THROUGH AUGUST 23RD.
THE FESTIVAL ITSELF WILL BE HELD AT EL CENTRO LIONS PARK AND WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 5:00 PM TO 11:00 PM ON FRIDAY THE 21ST, 11:30 AM TO 11:00 PM ON SATURDAY THE 22ND AND NOON TO 9:00 PM ON SUNDAY THE 23RD.
THE PARADE WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 9:30 AM TO 11:30 AM ON SATURDAY THE 22ND, AND WE'LL TRAVEL ALONG LAHABRA BOULEVARD STARTING FROM OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE CHURCH AND MAKE A LEFT TURN ONTO CYPRESS STREET AND END AT EL CENTRO LIONS PARK.
DEDICATED PARKING FOR THIS EVENT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT CITY HALL AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH A DA PARKING PROVIDED ALONG ERNA AVENUE JUST SOUTH OF THE FESTIVAL.
THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA WILL ALSO BE OPEN TO STREET PARKING AS WELL.
THE FESTIVAL LAYOUT INCLUDES THE LOCATION OF SEVERAL, OR I'M SORRY, THE FESTIVAL LAYOUT INCLUDES, UM, SEVERAL LARGE RIDES, CARNIVAL GAMES, KITTY RIDES, A CANDY WAGON, A FUN HOUSE, FOOD VENDORS, ENTERTAINMENT AREAS, SEATING AREAS, GENERATORS, AND A PORTABLE RESTROOM AREA.
THE EVENT IS EXPECTED TO ATTRACT BETWEEN 15,000 AND 30,000 ATTENDEES OVER THE COURSE OF THE THREE DAY LONG EVENT.
PER THE EVENT SCHEDULE SET UP FOR THE FESTIVAL WILL BE FROM 4:00 PM TILL 11:00 PM ON WEDNESDAY THE 19TH AND 7:00 PM TO 11:00 PM ON THURSDAY.
THE 20TH SET UP AND ROAD CLOSURES ALONG THE HABER BOULEVARD AND CYPRESS STREET WILL BEGIN AT 6:00 AM ON SATURDAY THE 22ND AND LIFTED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE PARADE.
THE OVERALL CLEANUP FOR THE FESTIVAL SITE WILL BE COMPLETED FOLLOWING THE EVENT ON SUNDAY THE 23RD.
THE LA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE PARADE ROUTE AND THE FESTIVAL LAYOUT.
THE CITY'S FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE LIONS CLUB ENSURES THAT ALL FOOD VENDORS OBTAIN ANY REQUIRED APPROVALS FROM OC HEALTH AND ALCOHOL.
SALES ARE NOT PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS EVENT.
PUBLIC WORKS WILL PROVIDE THE BARRICADES FOR STREET CLOSURES AND WE'LL COORDINATE THAT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE INSTALLATION AND THE REMOVAL OF THE BARRICADES.
LASTLY, THE PROPOSED EVENT WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE.
BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE 77TH OVERALL, OR, I'M SORRY, ANNUAL LIONS CLUB, CORN FESTIVAL AND PARADE.
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THANK YOU.STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL HEAR FIRST FROM, UH, THE APPLICANT IF THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION FOLLOWED BY ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
CAN CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION IF THEY ARE PRESENT AND WISH TO DO SO? OKAY.
HELLO, MY NAME IS KATIE ELMORE.
I'M THE RECREATION MANAGER AND I AM THE LIAISON BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAHABRA AND THE LAHABRA HOST LIONS.
SO I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LAHABRA HOST LIONS, WHO IS, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT FOR THE, UM, THE FESTIVAL IN THE PARADE.
UM, AND AS FAR AS, UH, EVERYTHING, THEY ARE VERY EXCITED TO GO BACK TO EL CENTER LIONS PARK.
THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING STARTED.
IT'S WHERE, UM, IT'S THEIR HOME PARK.
SO THEY'RE EXCITED TO MOVE THAT FESTIVAL BACK.
UM, IT IS THE 77TH ANNUAL ANNUAL FESTIVAL AND I THINK, UM, THEY, THEY CAME UP WITH A REALLY GREAT PLAN TO REALLY MINIMIZE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, UM, RESTRICTIONS AND, UM, STREET CLOSURES AND THEY'RE READY TO COME TO MOVE FORWARD.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? NOW WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ITEM.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM NOW AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
AT, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO OFFER A REBUTTAL.
IF THERE'S NO, NO REBUTTAL, NO REBUTTAL, WE'LL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR A DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 10 TO APPROVE LARGE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT SEP TWO L 26 DASH 0 0 4.
A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER MANLEY AND A SECOND BY LOGAN CANNON.
CAN YOU PLEASE ENTER YOUR VOTES? THE ITEM PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE CAN BRING BACK, YEAH, YOU WANTS TO GO GRAB HIM? OH, UM, MY APOLOGIES.
UM, SO THE MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO AND THIS ITEM WILL BECOME, WILL, WILL BECOME FINAL IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE LET RECORD SHOW THAT THE CHAIR RETURN TO THE DAIS.
SO WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT, WHICH IS A DULY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REQUEST FOR TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER 1 9 4 3 6 TTM 26 DASH OH OH OH ONE TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE LOT SUBDIVISION FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES THAT ENABLES A TOTAL OF FIVE FOUR SALE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT 4 31 WEST LAMBERT ROAD.
ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER 2 9 8 0 9 1 DASH THREE EIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS ITEM? UH, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES, WE DO.
I'M JACOB LINGA, ASSOCIATE PLANNER AND GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON A POINT 34 ACRE PROPERTY ON THE NORTHERLY SIDE OF LAMBERT ROAD TO THE EAST OF WALNUT STREET.
THE PARCEL IS ADDRESSED AS 4 31 WEST LAMBERT ROAD ON JANUARY 13TH, 2020.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 DASH OH ONE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
PRECISE PLAN 19 DASH OH TWO TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FIVE UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX AT 4 31 WEST LAMBERT ROAD.
UH, PUD PRECISE PLAN 19 DASH OH TWO WITH SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 18TH, 2020.
AFTER RECEIVING THEIR APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT PHASED PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION DELAYS DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC,
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BUT WAS EVENTUALLY ABLE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN 2025 POD PRECISE PLAN.19 DASH OH TWO WAS REVIEW AND CONFIRMED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLANNED LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE R FOUR ZONE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN ON THAT FIVE UNIT HOUSING PROJECT.
UH, THE SITE IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY AND THAT'S JUST AN IMAGE FROM TODAY.
THE APPLICANT MORE RECENTLY DECIDED THAT THEY WISH TO CHANGE THE PROJECT FROM RENTAL UNITS TO FOUR SALE UNITS.
CHAPTER 17 OF THE LA HABER MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES THAT BEFORE A BUILDING OR LOT IS SOLD OR LEASED, A SUBDIVISION MA UH, TRACK MAP NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.
AS A RESULT, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER 19 4 3 6, UM, WHICH IS A PROPOSAL FOR A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION.
BASED ON THE CURRENT STAGE OF THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION, THE BUILDING AND SAFETY DEPARTMENT IS PREDICTING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD COULD POSSIBLY WRAP UP IN APPROXIMATELY TWO TO THREE MONTHS.
UH, THIS TIMELINE ALIGNS WITH THE TWO TO THREE MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PREDICTS IT WOULD TAKE TO PROCESS AND RECORD THE FINAL MAP.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF BOTH OF THESE TIMELINES AND IS PREPARING TO HAVE THE FINAL MAP RECORDED AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE.
THE SUBDIVISION WOULD CREATE FIVE CONDOMINIUM AIRSPACE LOTS, UM, THAT HAVE A COMMON SHARED AREAS FOR BOTH RECREATION AND FOR ACCESS.
UM, THE APPLICANT WILL PRODUCE CCNRS PRIOR TO THE RECORDING OF THE FINAL MAP TO ENSURE THAT THESE COMMON AREAS ARE MAINTAINED AND AVAILABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS AND OWNERS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO OBTAIN, UH, APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACK MAP NUMBER 19 FOR THREE SIX SUBJECT TO THEIR CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? NO.
UM, SO AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR A FEW MINUTES 'CAUSE I I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF IS IT IF YOU HERE NO, THE APPLICANT DIDN'T SHOW UP.
OKAY, WELL I'LL, I'LL, SO JUST TO GET IT ON THE RECORD, I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT MY, MY CONCERN OR MY QUESTION IS AND, AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE RESOLVED.
UM, TYPICALLY OVER MY MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS I THINK THEY HAVE A VERY OPTIMISTIC TIMELINE OF WHEN THE FINAL MAP'S GONNA ACTUALLY GET APPROVED.
I THINK CONSTRUCTION'S GOING TO BE FINISHED PRIOR TO THE MAP BEING FINISHED.
SO THE WAY OUR THE CODES WORK IS THEY WILL SIT THERE FINISHED, BUT WITHOUT CFOS OR FINALS OR ANYTHING.
AND I'M KIND OF CONCERNED THAT HOW LONG OF A TIMEFRAME THAT MIGHT BE AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE MEANTIME OR HOW THEY'RE GONNA PROTECT THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN BECAUSE, UM, RIGHT NOW IF THEY, THEY HAVE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THEY, THEY'VE DECIDE THEY'RE PROCESSING A MAP RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS APPROVED AS APARTMENTS.
SO THEY COULD, THEY COULD GET CFOS FOR THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE WITHOUT F FINISHING THE TENTATIVE MAP.
AND, UM, PEOPLE COULD MOVE IN AND THEY COULD DO WHATEVER AND THEN THEY COULD PROCESS THE CONDO MAP LATER.
UM, WHICH WOULD MEAN THEN THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS, WHICH IS THE CONDOMINIUM CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION ORDINANCE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, REALLY DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE A GAME PLAN? ARE THEY, 'CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS 2026.
THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 2020 AND MY RECOLLECTION IS IT WAS PRO PROBABLY FIRST SUBMITTED ABOUT 2015.
SO THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A, THEY DON'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF ACTING IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO I'M JUST A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT TO FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE FEELING IS IF THEY REALLY FEEL THEY CAN GET THE MAP DONE IN TIME, AND IF THEY CAN'T OR THEY'RE GONNA EXERCISE THEIR OTHER OPTION AND JUST MOVE PEOPLE IN AND USE IT AS APARTMENTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION AND CONCERN RIGHT.
SO I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS WHY SAY NO TO MONEY NOW? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE RENTING THOSE
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APARTMENTS BECAUSE YEAH.AND PEOPLE COULD BE IN THOSE UNITS AND I I I'M WILLING TO PUT MONEY DOWN THAT THEY'LL GET RENTED BEFORE THEY GET SOLD.
WELL, WELL THEY CAN DO AND THEY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED AS APARTMENTS.
IT'S JUST THEY WON'T HA WHEN THEY GET A C OF O FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT'LL BE FOR APARTMENTS, NOT FOR CONDOS.
SO THAT THEY DO WANNA DO THE CONDOS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS LATER ON.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND? WELL THAT'S, SO I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THE APPLICANT'S NOT HERE.
MY, MY MY FEELING IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TILL THE APPLICANT AGREED CAN COME TALK TO US.
I MEAN, I REALLY WAS THE, WAS THE APPLICANT AWARE OF THE HEARING THIS EVENING? YES.
I I I WOULD BE, I WOULD SECOND A MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL THE CHAIR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE CONCERNS, BUT STATUTORILY THERE'S FINDINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE TO DENY THE PROJECT AND STAFF HAS OUTLINED ALL THE REASONS WHY NONE OF THOSE FINDINGS CAN BE MET.
AND NONE OF THOSE FINDINGS INCLUDE ANYTHING RELATED TO TIMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I'M, YEAH, I'M NOT, I AM NOT SUGGESTING A DENIAL AT THIS POINT.
I'M JUST CON CON SUGGESTING A CONTINUATION TO, TO ANOTHER MEETING SO WE CAN GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT.
THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE IN A HURRY.
SO, SO YOU DON'T NEED, YOU DON'T NEED, YOU DON'T NEED FINDINGS FOR A CONTINUANCE JUST UNLESS, UNLESS, UNLESS SOMETHING'S CHANGED, THEN I'M NOT AWARE OF.
BUT IN TERMS OF ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE DO NOT RELATE TO THE FINDINGS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE.
THE TIMING OF WHEN THEY INTEND TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT ISN'T PART OF THE FINDINGS THAT YOU ULTIMATELY MAKE.
UM, IF YOU, IT'S IN THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE STATUTORY FINDINGS TO BE MADE AND TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMING OF PROJECT COMPLETION AND THE MAP STAFF, I BELIEVE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
I WOULD DEFER TO SONYA AND JACOB ON THAT.
WELL, I GUESS I, I DON'T FEEL THE COMMISSION HAS ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE ANY KIND OF FINDINGS.
THE FINDINGS, MR. CHAIR, ARE ALL OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTION STAFF PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND IT RELATES TO CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
CONSISTENCY WITH ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS, PHYSICAL SUITABILITY OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, PHYSICAL SUITABILITY OF THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
IF IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, THE DESIGN IS LIKELY TO CAUSE SERIOUS HEALTH PROBLEMS. UM, ANY IMPACTS ON EASEMENTS, THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC FINDINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING CAN OR CANNOT BE MADE.
AND STAFF HAS PROVIDED JUSTIFICATION FOR THOSE FINDINGS.
AND LEGALLY, MY OPINION IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT GOING TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO THOSE SPECIFIC FINDINGS.
I AND I, I THINK HE'S ALSO TECHNICALLY RIGHT, BUT I, I JUST, I'M, I'M CURIOUS, SO WHAT HAPPENS THEN? JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD AND JUST, JUST FOR FOR CLARITY, THEY DON'T, WHAT HAPPENS IF THOSE APARTMENTS SIT THERE UNOCCUPIED FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR LONGER? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? IF I MAY, UM, COMMISSIONER MACHA UNDER THE CITY'S CODE, IT BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S RECENTLY UPDATED PUBLIC NUISANCE ORDINANCE AFTER 60 DAYS.
UM, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT, UM, TO MEETING THE VACANT LOT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE ABANDONED BUILDINGS, AND THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO INTERVENE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT AND GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT, UM, SONYA POINTED OUT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULDN'T HAVE REASON TO OPEN A CASE.
IT'S IF THE PROPERTY, IF THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT, THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN A CASE.
SO THEY TECHNICALLY COULD LEAVE THEM VACANT AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY WHILE THEY WORK ON THE MAP.
AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO COULD ANY PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY PERIOD, RIGHT, COULD, COULD LEAVE THEIR PROPERTY, APARTMENT, HOME, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE,
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DUPLEX, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, COULD LEAVE IT VACANT, COULD BE NOT RENTING IT FOR WHATEVER REASON, AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAINTAINING IT? UM, YEAH, I, I, FOR WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY OUTLINED, I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BELABOR THIS ANY LONGER.I I THINK THAT STAFF, UM, PRESENTED US WHAT WE NEED MIGHT MAKE US FEEL BETTER TO HAVE SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT.
BUT, UH, I'M PREPARED TO, TO MAKE A MOTION AS SOON AS THE PUBLIC HEARING IS UH, CLOSED.
WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I WOULDN'T, UM, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN AND WE'LL HAVE FURTHER COMMISSION DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ANY OR A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH ONE TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 1 9 4 3 6 TTM 26 DASH 0 0 0 1.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I WISH THIS WAS SOMETHING I COULD VOTE AGAINST.
I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS PERSON JUST FOR NOT SHOWING UP
I DON'T LIKE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, ESPECIALLY THAT WE'RE TURNING RENTAL PROPERTIES BACK INTO FOR SALE PROPERTIES AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN EXTREMELY SELFISH APPLICANT, NOT SOMEBODY WHO'S THINKING OF THE WELLBEING OF OUR CITY.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NO LEGAL REASON FOR ME TO VOTE AGAINST THEM.
UM, SO I'M GONNA SECOND THE MOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MANLEY AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MACHA.
JUST SO EVERYBODY PLEASE VOTE.
UH, THE MOTION PASSES THREE, TWO.
AND UM, AND THIS ITEM WILL BECOME FINAL IN 10 WORKING DAYS UNLESS IT IS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
COULD WE HAVE THE, UH, THE VOTE PUBLISHED? SO THERE IS A, A SLIGHT, UM, MISTAKE ON THE VOTES WHERE WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER LOGAN CANNON AND COMMISSIONER LAMBKIN, SORRY, COMMISSIONER MANLEY IN UM, OPPOSITE SEATS.
SO IF YOU SEE THE DISPLAYED RESULTS, UM, IT WOULD SAY THAT COMMISSIONER MANLEY VOTED NO, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER LOGAN CANNON.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD AND THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THE, THE ACCURATE RECORD? YES.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE MINUTES REFLECT THE ACCURATE VOTES.
WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NO COMMENTS FROM STAFF THIS EVENING.