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[ CALL TO ORDER: Council Chamber INVOCATION: City Attorney/Legal Counsel Jones PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Councilmember/Vice Chair Shaw ROLL CALL: Mayor/Director Beamish Mayor Pro Tem/Director Espinoza Councilmember/Director Gomez Councilmember/Chair Medrano Councilmember/Vice Chair Shaw]
RIGHT.SO THIS IS THE SHOW ON OUR CALL TO ORDER EITHER MEETING AT THE CITY COUNCIL, REGULAR SITE MEETING WITH THE LAGER HOUSING AUTHORITY, AUGUST 13TH BLANK.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IT IS 6:30 PM AND THE END LOCATION WILL BE BY CITY ATTORNEY LEGAL COUNSEL THAT YOUR JONES FOLLOWED BY AFTER ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, THE MEMBER OF VICE CHAIR, AH, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER PROBABLY BAUER HAS WE GATHER THIS EVENING.
WE DO THE IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA.
WE LIVE AT DIFFICULT TIMES AND WE ASKED WITH GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES, AS WE BATTLE THE CHALLENGES OF FACING THE COVID VIRUS, THAT ALL THE CONSEQUENCES THERE TOO.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR HEALTH PROVIDERS, THOSE WHO REACH OUT THESE DIFFICULT TIMES TO PROTECT US AND MAKE US SAFE.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE CITY COUNCIL, TO SEE THE ACTS WITH WE'RE USING THEM JUST IN A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY TO ALL THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA.
WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS AND YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR GRACE IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES.
WE SAY THESE THINGS I BELIEVE, AND THEY WERE, THEY SAID, JESUS CHRIST.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HOLA CLERK, PLEASE CALL US COUNCIL MEMBER, VICE CHAIR, MEDRANO OR COUNT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, CHAIR, MAGENTO COUNCIL MEMBER, VICE CHAIR, SHOW COUNCIL.
COUNCIL MEMBER, DIRECTOR GOMEZ.
DEAR MAYOR PRO TEM DIRECTOR ESPINOSA HERE, MAYOR DIRECTOR.
ARE THERE ANY CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCED THAT ARE NO ONE ELSE'S THANK YOU.
AND THERE'S NO PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS AT THIS TIME, WE
[ PUBLIC COMMENTS: When addressing the City Council, please complete a Speaker’s Card before leaving the Council Chamber. This is the time for the public to address any item of interest to the public that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City NOT appearing on this Agenda. Speakers must limit their comments to three (3) minutes each. The total time period for public comment is 30 minutes. Per Government Code Section 54954.3(a), the City Council cannot take action or express a consensus of approval or disapproval on any public comments regarding matters which do not appear on the printed agenda. ]
WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.THIS IS THE TIME AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC THAT IS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE CITY, NOT APPEARING ON THIS AGENDA.
IF THE PUBLIC HAD READ ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE CITY NOW, I MEAN ON THE SUBJECT THAT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO IMMEDIATE DISCONNECTION FROM PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS, I'M AT THEIR COMMENT.
THE THREE MINUTES EACH THE TOTAL TIME PERIOD FOR PUBLIC IS 30 MINUTES PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE OR NINE FIVE, 4.38 CITY COUNCIL CAN NOT TAKE ACTION OR FOR EXPRESS A CONSENSUS PRO OR DISAPPROVAL ON ANY ABOUT COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS, WHICH DO NOT APPEAR ON THE PRINTED AGENDA.
BEFORE WE START, I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE PUBLIC THAT I WILL BE PULLING ITEM FOUR IS ON THAT CONSENT CALENDAR BECAUSE I FELT THAT NEEDS DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT COUNCIL AND NOT JUST BE PASSED ON A CONSENT CALENDAR.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT LENGTH.
OH, LAURIE, ANY COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? YES, MAYOR.
THIS ONE IS FROM JENNIFER KASABIAN.
I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST REZONING WESTRIDGE GOLF COURSE TO BUILD HOMES OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
TWO REASONS WHY THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY MUST BE CONSIDERED.
MY CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP IN THIS CITY AND I DO NOT WANT POLLUTION FROM YEARS PAST POLLUTING OUR HEIRS AND CONTAMINATING THE SPACE IN WHICH WE LIVE.
THE OTHER REASON IS THAT LAHABRA HAS BEEN OVERBUILT ALREADY TOO MANY APARTMENTS AND CONDOS HAVE POPPED UP IN RECENT YEARS THAT HAVE MADE TRAFFIC EVEN MORE CONGESTED.
LET'S ALSO REMEMBER THAT HARBOR BOULEVARD IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND RINGS AN EXCESS OF TRAFFIC ON THE DAILY IMPERIAL HIGHWAY TWO.
I URGE YOU TO KEEP THE GOLF COURSE AS OPEN-SPACE OUR HEALTH SAFETY MATTERS.
ARE THERE ANY MORE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I RECEIVED, THE OTHER THREE I RECEIVED IS FOR THE ITEM THAT WAS REMOVED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
AND WE CAN READ THOSE AT THAT TIME THEN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COUNCIL THIS TIME? MR. MAYOR? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND CALLERS ON THE LINE IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK, TO PRESS STAR NINE ON THEIR HEADSET TO RAISE THEIR HAND AND WE CAN RELEASE THEM TO SPEAK.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE HOLLER AND I WILL
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RELEASE HIM NOW.IS THE CALLER ON THE LINE? OKAY.
I CALLED HIM LAST, UH, LAST COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING, UH, I'D LIKE THE CITY TO, TO THINK ABOUT, UH, ALLOWING SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT COMMENT.
UM, I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ALLOWING IT.
UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ALLOWANCE OF A SAFE, SINCE SANE FIREWORKS WOULD GIVE THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY AT GENERATING SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE, AS WELL AS ALLOWING OUR NONPROFITS, SUCH AS CHILDREN'S SPORTS TEAMS, A CHANCE TO OPERATE A STAND WHERE THEY CAN BRING IN FUNDS FOR THEIR PROGRAMS, WITH THE CHANGES IN CDC, GUIDELINES OF HOW LARGE GATHERINGS CAN BE IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE HOPPER FIREWORKS SHOW AT THE LOBBY FOOTBALL STADIUM OR AT THE COMMUNITY PARK, ALLOWING SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS.
WE'LL GIVE THE FAMILIES THE ABILITY TO HAVE CELEBRATIONS AT HOME WHILE GIVING THEIR CHILDREN.
SO THE COMMUNITY, THE ABILITY TO ENJOY YOUR FIREWORKS IN SMALL GROUP SETTINGS, I'D LIKE TO COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS UP AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING FOR ME.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL TAKE THESE COMMENTS TO HEART AND HAVE A DISCUSSION OR PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IN THE FUTURE.
BRIANNA, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? YES.
MR. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE THE PERSON NOW.
THERE'S A SLIGHT DELAY, LIKE I SAID, SO JUST GIVE IT ONE.
SO BRIANNA, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE ON WITH IT'LL INDICATE TO THEM ON THEIR LINE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON MUTED AND THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE NOTIFICATION.
HELLO TO ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINE COOK AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY AS THE LAHABRA BUSINESS OWNER, I WAS OFFENDED BY THE LETTER I RECEIVED FROM RANCHO LA HARBOR HOMES.
LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY, I FEEL THAT THE LEATHER IS NOT TRUTHFUL AND THAT MANY PEOPLE IN LAHABRA.
I THINK THAT THE WEST RIDGE GOLF CLUB REZONING AND CLOSURE IS A DONE DEAL WHILE IT IS NOT.
UM, I'M JUST ASKING THAT CITY COUNCIL LISTEN TO THE LAHABRA RESIDENTS ABOUT THE ISSUE AND ALLOW THE REZONING TO BE VOTED ON BY THE CITIZENS DURING THE ELECTION TIME.
I REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ANYONE ELSE? BRIANNA, MR. MAYOR, THERE ARE NO OTHER CALLERS ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
LET'S GIVE HIM ANOTHER 15 SECONDS OR SO TO THINK ABOUT IT.
CAN YOU STILL KNOW AMBER MAYOR? IT'S BEEN 15 SECONDS.
OH, ACTUALLY WE DO WE, MR. MAYOR.
WE JUST HAD SOMEBODY RAISE THEIR HAND TO SPEAK.
HI, THIS IS MARIBEL LOPEZ CALLING.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO CALL FOR, WITH THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WHEN WE CLOSED OUT THE COMMENTS, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, PULL THAT ITEM OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SO THAT WAY WE'LL GET INTO THE REPORT AND WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COUNSEL THEN KIND OF DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON IT OR THE OTHER.
OH, HOLD ON A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.
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THANK YOU.ANYBODY ELSE? BRAN? UH, NO MAYOR.
THEN I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND
[ CONSENT CALENDAR: All matters on Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless a Councilmember or member of the audience requests separate action or removal of an item. Removed items will be considered following the Consent Calendar portion of this agenda. Members of the audience will have the opportunity to address Council on removed items at that time. Speakers must limit their comments to three (3) minutes each. CITY COUNCIL PROCEDURAL WAIVER: Waive reading in full of resolutions and ordinances and approval and adoption of same by reading title only.]
WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR MATTERS ON THE CALENDAR, CONSIDERED THE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION, UNLESS ACCOUNT NETWORK OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUEST REDACTION OR MOVE OF AN ITEM REMOVED DIET WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING A CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ANY REMOVED HYMNS AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE PUNCH, THE THREE THAT EACH THE CONSENT CALENDAR APPEARS ON.
PAGE THREE THROUGH FOUR ON ITS AGENDA, ABS ONE THROUGH EIGHT, SAYS STAFF TO REMOVE ITEMS. MR. MAYOR, THIS IS CITY MANAGER.
SADRO NO, BUT I WOULD REMIND THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU ARE ON HOLD TO COMMENT, IF YOU COULD PLEASE MUTE YOUR TELEVISIONS OR IF YOU'RE ALSO WATCHING ON THE INTERNET TO MUTE YOUR, UM, YOUR, YOUR CHANNELS SO YOU DON'T GET FEEDBACK, BUT THAT'S ALL.
AND THEN THE COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED, I WILL LIKE TO POOL, UH, ITEMS FOR, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER ITEMS, COUNCIL LIKE BULL HIT AND THEN ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PULL SOMETHING OTHER THAN ITEM FOUR, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR JAMES GOMEZ.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM FOUR, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED I'LL SECOND THAT, WELL, THE COUNCIL PLEASES THE FLOOR COUNCIL MEMBER MADRANO YES.
NOW THIS TIME IT'S A MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA MAYOR BEAMISH YES.
[4. REVIEW, APPROVAL, AND ADOPTION OF GOVERNING BODY PUBLIC MEETING POLICY That City Council review, approve, and adopt the Governing Body Public Meeting Policy (formerly known as Council/Agency Meeting Policy).]
[ CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION:]
A ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS REVIEW APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF GOVERNED NAMED BODY PUBLIC POLICY CITY COUNCIL.UH, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? YES.
MAYOR THE SLURRY CITY CLERK, THE CURRENT COUNCIL AGENCY MEETING POLICY WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 20TH, THE YEAR 2000 DUE TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, ELECTRONIC RECORDING METHODS AND OTHER CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER THE YEARS REGARDING HOW THE CITY'S PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND UPDATED THE EXISTING 20 YEAR OLD POLICY FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE CHANGING IS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS ON THE PUBLIC AGENDA.
FOR EXAMPLE, CLOSED SESSION USED TO BE FIRST YEARS AGO OR LAST YEARS AGO NOW IT'S FIRST.
AND, UM, SO WE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
UM, AND WE UPDATED THE DAYS OF CITY COUNCILS ELECTRONICALLY RECORDED MEETINGS WILL BE REPLAYED ON LOCAL CABLE CHANNEL THREE AND UPDATED THE TYPES OF ELECTRONIC MEDIA DEVICES FORMAT THAT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WILL BE RECORDED IN SUCH AS WE DON'T USE VHS TAPES ANYMORE.
AND WE, WE RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNTY COUNCIL REVIEW APPROVE AND ADOPT THE GOVERNING BODY PUBLIC MEETING POLICY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS COUNCIL AGENCY MEETING POLICY, MR. MAYOR, THIS IS BAD ROAD.
THERE WERE TWO, A COUPLE OF OTHER UPDATES THAT WE MADE TO THIS PROPOSED POLICY FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
UM, MOST NOTABLY, UH, WE RECOMMEND, UH, UH, THREE ITEMS ACTUALLY THAT IF COUNCIL WERE TO ADOPT THE POLICY TONIGHT, THAT IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ALL THE CITY'S COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, SO THAT THERE'S CONSISTENCY ACROSS ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD BY DIFFERENT CITY COMMISSIONS OR THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, FIRST OFF, SECONDLY, WE RECOMMEND ESTABLISHING A TIME FRAME FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS TO GO TO, UH, BEING 10:30 PM, UH, WITH THE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THE COUNCIL OR A COMMISSION TO EXTEND BEYOND 10 30,
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IF THEY NEEDED TO FINISH A BUSINESS, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT IS NOT YET FINISHED AT THAT TIME.UM, AND THEN IF BUSINESS IS NOT FINISHED AND IT GETS LATER IN THE EVENING, THAT GIVES THE GOVERNING BOARD, WHETHER IT'S A COUNCIL OR COMMISSION, THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE THE MEETING TO A ANOTHER DAY.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, AND ALSO ESTABLISH CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT CAN BE PROVIDED ON DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS. CURRENTLY, THERE IS A THREE MINUTE PER INDIVIDUAL LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC COMMENT TIME PROVIDED FOR MOST ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR AN ISSUE REGARDING CONSENT CALENDAR OR CONSIDERATION CALENDAR.
AND, UH, WHEN REVIEWING THIS POLICY, UH, WE FOUND THAT THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, INDIVIDUALS GET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN, UH, UM, IN ORDER TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS ON THE MEETING THAT WE ESTABLISH AT THREE THAT LIMIT, UH, AS ALL, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS COMMENTING DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
HOWEVER, THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, THERE IS AN OVERALL LIMIT ON, UH, SPEAKERS OF 30 MINUTES, WHETHER IT BE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR, UM, CONSENT ITEMS OR CONSIDERATION ITEMS, HOWEVER, FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE RECOMMEND NOT ESTABLISHING ANY LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME PROVIDED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE HEARD FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ALL RIGHT, THEN, UH, I GUESS IT'S COUNCIL QUESTIONS.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION RIGHT OFF, BUT I WAS LOOKING, THE CONSENT IS CONSIDERED ROUTINE CONSIDERATION IS BASICALLY IT'S A BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION.
YOU CALL IT A BENEFIT AGENDA, BUT WHEN YOU GET THE PUBLIC HEARING, DID STAFF TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IN PUBLIC HEARINGS, TYPICALLY THERE'S A SPECIAL NOTICE GIVEN TO ME IN THE HIERARCHY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC HEARING WOULD TEND TO STAND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSENT OR THE CONSIDERATION AREA.
SO IS THAT PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS AS FAR AS ESTABLISHING A TIMEFRAME OR A TIME LIMIT? YEAH, WE, WE USE THREE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED FOR OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, IT'S, THAT'S, COUNCIL'S DISCRETION ON WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH THAT LIMIT.
WE DIDN'T PRESUME TO ADD TIME, BUT WE JUST, WE, WE ESTABLISHED IT TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME PROVIDED FOR THE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE AGENDA.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE NOT THE SAME AS ANY OTHER ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.
IT IS CONSIDERED A DUE PROCESS HEARING AND INVOLVES PROPERTY RIGHTS.
AND SO THE LEGAL STANDARD IS DIFFERENT IN THAT THE COURTS LOOK TO THE PROCESS TO A WAY THAT BALANCES THE FAIR OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS AND IT'S PUBLIC DURING PROCESS, WE CAN ESTABLISH BY WAY OF GUIDELINES, FOR EXAMPLE, A THREE MINUTE RULE.
BUT IF THE NATURE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUE OR THE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS BY THE INDIVIDUAL ARE OFFERING NOT REDUNDANT, BUT NEW COMMENTS THAT FURTHER EDUCATE AND ENLIGHTEN THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL MUST MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THOSE FRIDGES TO CONTINUE TO COMMENT.
YOU CAN NOT IN A PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT, SIMPLY HAVE A HARD RULE THAT WOULD THREE MINUTES IS UP, BUT YOU CUT A PERSON OFF BECAUSE YOU MAY BE DENIED THEM THEIR DUE PROCESS RIGHTS.
IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GRANTED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, UH, CITIES THAT HAVE LIMITS LIKE THIS CLEARLY HAVE EXERCISED BY TO THE MAYOR OR THE COUNCIL, SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS NOT BEING REDUNDANT, BUT RATHER OFFERING MORE INSIDER INFORMATION THAT THEY ALLOW THEM TO GO BEYOND THAT IN ADDITION, SUBSIDIES DO ALLOW IT A SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE LARGE PUBLIC INTEREST GROUPS TO COME TOGETHER AND GIVE THAT GROUP PERHAPS A 15 OR 20 MINUTE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AS A MATTER OF FLEXIBILITY, SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS IN WHETHER THERE'S A MORE COMPLEX TYPE OF MATTER, ALL THOSE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
SO PUBLIC CARRIERS ARE UNIQUE.
AND AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL DOES MAINTAIN ITS ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE TO THREE MINUTE RULE IS FINE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.
AND THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH CONSTITUTIONAL DUE PROCESS RIGHTS.
THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED BY THE COUNCIL DURING THIS PROCESS.
THANKS FOR THAT DECK, BUT THAT'S NOT THAT, THAT THING, THAT'S THE POINT I WAS
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MAKING AS THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE KIND OF A HEARING SEPARATE AND APART CONSENT OR CONSIDERATIONS THE SET FORTH BY DICK RIGHT THERE.SO THAT WAS THE TWO QUESTIONS, NO ACTUAL JUST MR. EMERGENCY OR AWARE UNDER THE LEGAL STANDARD, YOU ASSUME A QUAYSIDE JUDICIAL ROLE, AS OPPOSED TO AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHEN YOU ARE CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT WAS A GOOD MEMORY TO THAT END.
UM, WE, IN THE POLICY ITSELF, THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS THE COUNCIL OR THE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE, THE FLEXIBILITY TO, UM, UH, ADDRESS THAT THREE MINUTE RULE AS THEY SEE FIT THE, SO WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE FMD ATTORNEY'S ADVICE WITH WRAPPING THIS POLICY, RIGHT? WELL, IT LOOKS TO ME THAT 10 30 IS A GOAL, SO TO SPEAK, BUT BY CONSENSUS ACCOUNT COULD GO TO MIDNIGHT OR WHATEVER TIME YOU FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO MEET OR ARE UP TO IT.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE SPEAKING TIME BY CONSENSUS OF THE MEETING, I SUPPOSE, COUNCIL COULD INCREASE OR DECREASE THE SPEED LIMIT DEPENDING ON, OR NOT THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT THE TIME PERIOD OR THREE MINUTE OR 10 MINUTES OR WHATEVER IT IS.
SO I THINK THAT FLOP, THOSE ARE THESE THERE, AND AGAIN, AND THERE'S NO TIME LIMITS.
WE TAKE THE TIME TO HEAR ALL 200 ACRES.
YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, DICK ARE, UH, OR ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO ANSWER IT.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL QUITE A LONG TIME AND, AND THE ONLY TIME I RECALL WERE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS REALLY WENT EXTREMELY LONG AND PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO COME UP BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COSTCO HEARING.
BUT DO YOU KNOW ANYWHERE WHERE RESIDENTS TRY TO MAYBE FILIBUSTER OR ARE, OR DID ANYTHING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WHERE THEY TRY TO JUST CARRY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AND ON AND ON BEYOND REALLY THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO EXPRESS THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROJECT? UNFORTUNATELY IN LA HARBOR, THE ANSWER IS NO, WE'VE NOT HAD THAT SITUATION.
I HAVE HAD THAT SITUATION IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE A GROUP SUCH AS A CONSERVANCY OR OTHER SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, UH, ATTEMPTED TO AN EFFECT.
SPEAKING KEEPS SPEAKING, UH, ALMOST LIKE A FILIBUSTER AND THEN PASSING THEIR TIME ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
IF IT WAS ONE CONTINUOUS, UH, PRESENTATION AND THE CHAIR HAD THE ABILITY TO CUT THEM OFF AND DID SO, AND THAT WAS LAWFULLY APPROPRIATE.
SO YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY AS A COUNCIL TO LIMIT COMMENTS IF THEY BECOME REDUNDANT, BUT THAT IS ALWAYS A RISK.
YOU TAKE TAKING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
IF THEY BECOME REDUNDANT OR THEY SIMPLY APPEAR TO BE CONDUCTING WHAT AMOUNTS TO A FILIBUSTER WOULD SHARE.
THE BODY CLEARLY HAS THE ABILITY TO CUT THEM OFF THAT'S LEGALLY APPROPRIATE.
SO EVEN WITHOUT THE LIMIT, THE CHAIRMAN DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO, OR THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CUT THE MOB THAT THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, BEING REDUNDANT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SO-CALLED, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SIMILAR FILIBUSTERING GOING ON, MAYOR, THE MAYOR HAS THAT AUTHORITY.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, PROCEDURALLY AMERICA EXERCISE THAT AUTHORITY, THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERRIDE THE MAYOR, UH, BY A MAJORITY VOTE IF THEY STILL DIRECTED THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO CUT THEM OFF.
THEN TO FOLLOW UP DECK WITH WHAT JIM JUST BROUGHT UP.
CAUSE I, I SAW THIS POLICY, I SPENT THE LAST DAY RESEARCH INTO WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND THEIR LEGAL ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THIS ROTTING MEETING AND WHAT I GATHERED FROM MY READING.
AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF THIS IS CORRECT OR NOT, BUT IF THE PERSON STARTED FILIBUSTER, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY STOPPING THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL.
AND ESSENTIALLY YOU COULD SAY THAT'S DISRUPTING THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL AND THAT THE BASIS FOR STOP.
AND THAT SPEAKER FROM SPEAKING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IS THERE THERE LIBRARY NEW INFORMATION, BUT SIMPLY THEY'RE SPEAKING TO US WITH OFFERING NEW INFORMATION OR HELPING TO EDUCATE THE COUNCIL ON THE BATTERY SO YOU CAN CUT THEM OFF AND THAT IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.
ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE ASK QUESTION.
NO, MR. MAYOR, I ASSUME WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DELIBERATE THIS AMONGST OURSELVES.
THAT'S WHERE I CAN HEAR THE PUBLIC TESTIFY, CORRECT? YEAH.
NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MR. MAYOR THEN.
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THEN I WOULD INVITE THE PUBLIC TO THE BUY AND THE, PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THERE MAY BE.AND THEN COUNCIL WILL, UH, CAN TAKE ACTION.
SO LORI, WE HAVE ANYTHING NEITHER OF US, IF YOU NEED TO READ TO US.
YES, I HAVE THREE EMAILS TO HER FROM THE SAME PERSON, BUT TWO LITTLE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SAME SUBJECT.
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM JOE FAUST AND HE SAYS, DEAR COUNCIL PERSONS, I BELIEVE THERE IS A SERIOUS ERROR IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PROPOSED NEW PUBLIC MEETING POLICY ITEM FOUR ON THE AUGUST 17TH, 2020 COUNCIL AGENDA.
THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES A RED LINE COPY OF THE CURRENT PUBLIC MEETING POLICIES INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT ONE AND THE PROPOSED NEW POLICIES INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENT TO IN REALITY, BOTH ATTACHMENTS ONE AND TWO ARE THE NEW POLICY, NO RED LINE OF THE CURRENT POLICY ATTACHED.
THIS IS A, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE AFTER READING BOTH ATTACHMENTS, I THOUGHT, IN FACT, NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
THERE'S A MAJOR CHANGE OF LIMITING PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, WHEREAS NO SUCH TIME LIMIT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE COUNCIL AGENCY POLICY.
I DO NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED TIME LIMIT ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
NOW I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT REGARDING THE RED LINE COPY, WE HAVE A NEW AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN WE UPLOADED A WORD VERSION WITH RED LINE OR TRACK CHANGES, THAT THE SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTS WORD, WE KNOW IT CONVERTS THEM TO PDF, BUT IT BASICALLY CLEANED IT UP TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS A FINAL.
SO THIS MORNING I CONVERTED IT TO RED LINE TO THE PDF AND I UPLOADED THE PDF.
SO IT HAS BEEN VISIBLE ALL DAY FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO THERE IS A RED LINE ON THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S, I'M GLAD HE PLANTED THAT OUT.
CAUSE I NOTICED THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE RED LINE I EVER SEEN.
WE FIGURED IT OUT THIS MORNING.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS ALSO FROM MR. JOE FAUST.
HE SAYS, I AM SERIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HELD ON HIGHLY SENSITIVE ISSUES.
DURING THE CURRENT PANDEMIC, CALIFORNIA, STAY AT HOME GUIDELINES, PRECLUDE LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS.
AND I AM OBSERVING THIS GUIDE COMPLETELY.
I REALIZED GOVERNOR NEWSOME MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE STATE'S BROWN ACT, ET CETERA.
IN THIS REGARD, NEVERTHELESS, THERE REMAINS WIDESPREAD DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, WHETHER AN ALL ELECTRONIC MEETINGS SUCH AS ZOOM CAN PROVIDE FOR ADEQUATE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, PARTICULARLY ON AN ISSUE OF SENSITIVE AS RANCHO LA HABRA IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS PROPOSAL HAS FILLED THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BEFORE AND EXCEPT FOR THE PANDEMIC IS EXPECTED TO DO SO.
AGAIN, NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ANY HIGHLY SENSITIVE MATTERS SHOULD BE ATTEMPTED BEFORE THE STATE HOME RESTRICTION IS LIFTED OR AT LEAST REDUCED TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL.
I AM PREPARING MY RESPONSE TO POSSIBLE RANCHO LA HARBOR, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND WISH TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FACE TO FACE IN A CONVENTIONAL PUBLIC MEETING ENVIRONMENT TO ENSURE MY POINT COMES ACROSS.
HOWEVER, UNDER THE CURRENT STATE HOME CONDITION, I WILL NOT FEEL SAFE IN ATTENDING ANY SUCH MEETING IN ZOOM DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY ADEQUATE ALTERNATIVE JOE FAUST.
WHEN I HAVE ONE MORE FROM MS. CHRISTINE COOK, SHE SAYS, HELLO, LAHABRA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOUR WAS SNEAKY AND SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS AND ALLOWING YOU LOB OR RESONANCE TO SPEAK.
IT'S OBVIOUS THE RANCHO LA BREAD DEBATE WILL SOON WILL BE SOON AND YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO SILENCE LAVA RESIDENTS.
PLEASE ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'LL GO TO ANYBODY THAT IS ON THE PHONE AND WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WE DO HAVE ONE CALLER ON THE LINE WISHING TO SPEAK.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE THE COLOR NOW.
LIKE I SAID, THERE IS A SLIGHT DELAY.
UM, SO JUST GIVE IT A COUPLE SECONDS.
THIS JIM LEAVES, UH, I LIVE AT 2140 SOUTH FEDERAL COURT.
MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WAS CONCERNED TO SEE, TO SEE A CHANGE IN THE CITY'S MEETING POLICY AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR FROM THE NIGHT'S MEETING.
I THINK THE TIMING IS PARTICULARLY ILL-ADVISED GIVEN THE PENDING PUBLIC HEARING ON RANCHO LAHABRA IN PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS.
YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY STATED THAT INTERESTED PARTIES WOULD HAVE ALL THE TIME THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS ISSUES AT A SCHEDULED HEARING.
THIS IS A MESSAGE I CONVEYED TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR COALITION.
REMEMBER YOU EVEN USED COSTCO HEARING AS EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU ALLOWED CITIZENS COMMENTS.
NOW I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU GO THAT LATE.
UH, BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT POLICY, THE CHAIR ALWAYS HAS THE DISCRETION TO HAVE THE MEETING CONTINUED TO A SUBSEQUENT DAY.
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THE CURRENT CURRENT MEETING POLICY HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR 20 YEARS.AND WE WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT SOMEHOW KEEPING ISSUES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THE STANDARDIZATIONS FOR ALL GOVERNING BODIES, ET CETERA.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY URGENCY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
CERTAINLY THERE'S NOTHING IN THE NEW POLICY THAT WON'T WAIT UNTIL THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
I DO BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL SHOULD GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION OF CITIZENS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND NOT GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF MUFFLING SYSTEM VOICES BY PUTTING A LAST MINUTE CONSTRAINTS INTO A LONG STANDING POLICY RIGHT BEFORE A BIG HEARING.
AND I ALSO AGREE WITH THE EARLIEST COMMENT EARLIER COMMENTS ON DUE PROCESS RIGHTS, I'M REQUESTING THE CAPITOL, PLEASE RECONSIDER CHANGING THE CITY MEETING POLICY UNTIL AFTER ARGUMENTATIVELY THE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY'S HISTORY.
IT WOULD BE INFINITELY BETTER TO SCHEDULE A CHANGE AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AFTER THE ELECTION OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MR. MAY HAVE ANOTHER CALLER IN LINE.
I BELIEVE THIS IS MARIBEL LOPEZ FROM EARLIER ONE SECOND MARIBEL.
HELLO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR T I'M LISTENING TO THE, OUR COMMENTS.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AND REALLY, TO BE HONEST, I KIND OF THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE STANDING UP FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I THINK PEOPLE WILL TALK FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OR LESS, BUT IT'S JUST THAT DURING ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS WE'VE ATTENDED, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO DEAL WITH RUSHING OUR WORDS TO FIT INTO THREE MINUTE TIMELINE.
SO WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SPEAK FREELY AT A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE WERE TOLD MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS TIME.
SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER NOT IMPLEMENTING THIS NEW CHANGE AT THIS VERY CRITICAL TIME.
MAYBE PERHAPS SOMETHING TO REVISIT IN THE NEW YEAR.
AND JUST ANOTHER COMMENT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, IF A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, UM, AT A PUBLIC HEARING SAYING THE SAME MESSAGE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE LIKE, WHAT IF, WHAT IF THERE WERE 200 PEOPLE THAT ALL HAD THE SAME CONCERNS? THEY ALL HAD A CONCERN WITH TRAFFIC.
SO YES, THAT'S GOING TO BE A REDUNDANT MESSAGE FOR YOU TO HEAR, BUT IT SHOWS YOU THAT THERE ARE VERY, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE.
SO I FEEL THAT THAT IS VALUABLE FEEDBACK, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU NOT CUT THOSE PEOPLE OFF, OR JUST SAY, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC DON'T SPEAK ANYMORE.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY WHAT THEY FEEL.
AND, AND IF IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE THAT JUST TELLS YOU THAT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR EVERYBODY.
BRIANNA, NO, MR. MAYOR, THERE ARE NO OTHER CALLERS ON THE LINE.
OKAY, WELL LET'S GIVE HIM 15 SECONDS OR SO SEE IF ANYBODY DECIDES THEY WANT TO TALK TO US.
THEN LET'S SEE WHERE I'M AT HERE.
WELL, I WILL CALL COUNSEL DISCUSSION AND ACTION.
I'M GOING TO START THE CON BECAUSE I SPENT THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS KIND OF RESEARCHING THIS.
AS I MENTIONED TO THE XO, I, I LIKED THE POLICY EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF POINTS ON THAT.
I THINK THE 10 30 TIME FRAME AS GOOD TO END THE MEETING, REALIZING THAT WE, AS A CONSENSUS CAN RUN UP LONGER THAN WE WANT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAVE A BIG PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN MULTIPLE DAY KINDS OF THING.
I THINK IT WAS ON THE COUNCIL FOR WHEN COSTCO WAS BEING HEARD, BUT I WAS A TREMENDOUS, THE PLAN.
THINK OF SHANNON, MY MEETING WITH THE ONE IN THE MORNING.
I DON'T GET VERY PRODUCTIVE TO DO THAT OR DECISIONS WITH FIRE.
AND I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL WENT UP IN THE MORNING.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT'S A BIT MUCH FOR NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL,
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BUT THE PUBLIC THAT NEEDS TO SIT THROUGH THAT.THE ISSUE THAT I HAD AND KIND OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS BROUGHT THIS UP IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AND WE, AND I QUIZ, UH, DICK, OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND DEAN ABOUT THE HOT RP, A MEETING FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THEY REALLY IS A PROCESS ISSUE.
I JUST DON'T SUPPORT THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE PEOPLE, AS WE KNOW, GET A LITTLE BIT HURRY, UH, WHEN WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT, PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF WE, AS A CONSENSUS, WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO SIX MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL, DOUBLE THE TIME, THEN WHAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD OTHER MEETINGS.
AND OF COURSE ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND THEN CAUSE THAT TIME WILL GO UNTIL WE DO THE LAST SPEAKER.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES.
AND THAT THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I HAD IS THE APPLICANT BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITION, UH, THEY GENERALLY HAVE TIME TO SPEAK.
AND SO I'M DOING SOME RESEARCH ABOUT, I WAS THINKING, OKAY, THE APPLICANT CAN PRESENTATION OF SAY 15 MINUTES.
AND I THINK IN THIS POLICY, IT HASN'T BEEN THE 15TH.
I WAS THINKING, WELL, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT THE OPPONENTS, UH, UM, THEY HAVE A FORM OF REPRESENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, COULD THEY GET MORE TIME AND NOT BE AN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER? SO I HAPPENED TO FIND THE PALO ALTO AT A SITUATION OF WHAT THEY DO, IF THERE'S FIVE OR MORE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE REPRESENTED BY A SPEAKER, THEY ALLOW THAT SPEAKER 10 TO IN THIS CASE, I WOULD DO 15 THAT'S BECAUSE I WOULD WANT THE GROUP TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THAT REPRESENT SPEAKER SPEAK FOR 15 MINUTES, UH, WITH REGARDS TO WHATEVER BOOK APPLICANT SAYS AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL INDIVIDUALLY, BUT WOULDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW'S MEETINGS GO, OH, THE OPPONENTS WILL HAVE PLENTY OF PLENTY OF TIME.
NOT I'M OPEN TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS WITH REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T THINK JUST TO BE ABLE TO ENTER A MEETING THAT I LIKE TO SEE, IT'S KIND OF THE TIMELINE THAT IT'S, THAT'S THE CONSENSUS.
SO, UH, THERE YOU HAVE IT, SO YEAH.
MR. MAYOR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GOOD.
AND, UH, I, I DO, I DO LIKE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY AS FAR AS THAT, UH, IN ALL DUE RESPECT TO WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS.
UM, I THINK, UH, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT A CERTAIN WAY FOR SO LONG AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE EXPECTING A, UH, A, A CERTAIN MEETING, UH, TO OCCUR, UH, OR AT LEAST IF FORMAT OF A MEETING TO OCCUR IN THE, OF COURSE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS RANGEL ABRA, AS WE ALL KNOW.
AND, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA COME BEFORE US, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IF THAT, UH, BUT IN THAT INTEREST, UH, AND I WAS NOT PART OF THE COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY WHEN, UH, WHEN COSTCO WAS DECIDED, UM, I WAS PROBABLY WORKING A GRAVEYARD SHIFT, UH, AS A BEAT COP, UM, BACK AROUND THAT TIME.
BUT REGARDLESS, I THINK IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE BETTER INTEREST OF, OF THE CITY OF
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP.
AND, UH, I THINK IN THE, IN THE, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UH, THE, THE, THE ESSENCE OF, UH, OR THE LOOK OF TRANSPARENCY, UM, THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS NO QUESTION AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, WHATEVER IS DECIDED AT ANY FUTURE MEETING.
AND IF FIVE, IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO TABLE THIS FOR THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, UH, IN 20, 21 GRADE OR SHORTLY AFTER THE ELECTION, OR MAYBE AFTER IMMEDIATELY AFTER, UH, THE RANCH LAHABRA, SHE WAS HURT.
UH, BUT, UH, I, UH, I DO LIKE WHAT I READ AS FAR AS THE LIMITATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, GIVEN OF COURSE, UH, THAT, UH, THAT YOU AS THE CHAIRPERSON OR THE MAYOR HAS, UH, HAS CERTAIN, UH, UH, DISCREPANCIES THAT YOU CAN, UH, THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW, UH, AND, UH, AND LIMIT PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT IS GREAT TO HAVE AND, AND TO BE ABLE TO USE, UH, ACCORDINGLY ONLY WHEN NECESSARY, BUT I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO BE HEARD ON THIS UPCOMING ISSUE AND, UH, WE, UH, WE SHOULDN'T LIMIT THEM AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
AND I'M ASKING, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION
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THEN.SO I READ THROUGH THE PO, SO I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH ANY OF IT, OTHER THAN IF I MENTIONED THE PUBLIC HEARING PART.
SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PASS THE POLICY, EXCLUDING THE PUBLIC HERE, GREEN PORTION, AND, UH, SOMETIMES A COUNCIL PERSON WANTS TO BRING THAT UP TO THE FIRST YEAR OR THEY CAN DO SO, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE POLICY THAT REALLY MATERIALLY CHANGES ANYTHING.
SO IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GET THE CHANGE ON THE BOOK AND THEN REVISIT THE PUBLIC HEARING ISSUE AT A LATER TIME, THE LEVEL OF THING I SEE, WE DO THE WHOLE THING AT A LATER TIME.
OF COURSE, THAT'S JUST ME AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES, I THINK AS WELL.
UM, JUST TO KEEP IT ON AN EVEN ON AN EVEN KEEL.
LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M PRETTY MUCH GOOD EITHER WAY, UH, DAN COMMENT.
WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T ADOPT THE REST OF IT, UH, TONIGHT, I WOULD SAY.
YEAH, EXCLUDING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT'S IS, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT FROM, OKAY, SURE.
I THINK IT JUST KIND OF SUMS THINGS UP.
UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT I'M GOOD TO GO THAT WAY TOO.
UH, LET'S SEE WHO WE GOT A COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I DO HAVE THAT CONCERN OF IT'S COMING UP RIGHT BEFORE THE BIG PROJECT, AND IT'S KIND OF VERY SIMILAR TO THE POSITION I HAD TAKEN WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, ELECTION, YOU KNOW, 200 WORDS, 400 WORDS, YOU KNOW.
SO I HAD THIS SITUATION, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCEPTION OF US TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BAIT AND SWITCH THINGS OR THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT, WHICH WE'RE NOT, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN OF, OF THAT.
UM, I AM OPEN HOWEVER, TO CHANGING THE PUBLIC, NOT CHANGING, BUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION TO KEEP IT AS IT IS UNLIMITED.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE ITEMS SEEM TO BE KIND OF A CLEANUP ITEM THAT WE CAN GO WITH, BUT I I'M EITHER ON IF WE COULD EITHER CABLE IT OR AT THE VERY LEAST I I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING IT TO UNLIMITED RIGHT NOW TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND I'M ONE THAT THAT'S THROUGH THE COSTCO HEARING SO 14.
AND, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT, UH, MY INTENTION IS, IS TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, TO THE VERY END AND AS LONG AS THEY AGREE WITH THE UGM.
AND THAT'S THE THING IS I'M, I'VE BEEN GEARING UP FOR THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE WITH REGARDS TO THE LENGTH OF TIME.
I'M SURE IT'LL BE QUITE LENGTHY.
AND I DO THINK, AS I SAID, THE POLICY IS GOOD, BUT I AGREE THAT FOR PERCEPTION AND TRANSPARENCY, WE SHOULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS IT IS AND PASS EVERYTHING OUT.
SO IT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ROSE, ANYTHING.
UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST, THE FIRST THING MR. MAYOR, THAT I WOULD SAY WAS TALKING ABOUT PERCEPTION, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDMAN'S HAD SAID IN THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE WE WERE MAKING A DECISION REGARDING THE CANDIDATES STATEMENT.
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AGAIN, THIS TIME AROUND AS WELL.
UM, AND IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ SAID THE PERCEPTION THAT, UH, THINGS ARE BEING DONE.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SPEAKING BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THIS, THE REASON THAT YOU'RE THERE, WE HAVE IT ON THE CALENDAR.
SO THIS APPLIES AS THE CITY MANAGER SAYS TO THE OTHER COMMISSION.
SO IT WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY WOULD ONLY ALLOW THREE MINUTES FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON A PROJECT.
AND, UM, WITH THE PLANNING PERMISSION HAD THE DISCRETION OF CONTINUING IT BEYOND, UH, 10 30 AND UNTIL THE ISSUES ARE HEARD, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? YEAH, I WOULD, IT SOUNDS THAT WAY, BUT THIS IS CITY MANAGER.
SADRO IF THE POLICY IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT, I'M MODIFYING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION FOR PUBLIC HEARING, NOT BEING LIMITED FOR INDIVIDUALS.
THAT POLICY WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE CITY'S COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.
SO WHATEVER THE POLICY FOR THE COUNCIL WOULD BE WOULD BE FOR THEM AS WELL.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION TO GO BEYOND 10 30 AT THEIR DISCRETION AS WELL.
UM, AND, UH, THE MAYOR, YOU SAID THAT EXCLUDING THAT PORTION OF PUBLIC HEARING, UH, YOU WANTED TO SEE
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IF WE WOULD APPROVE THE REST OF IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.UM, I WOULD BE FOR THAT EXCLUDING THREE PORTION AND A BUDDY FOR THE REST.
THEN I JUST, MY LAST COP, AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT I WOULD NOT WANT ANYBODY TO THINK.
WE'RE BRANDED THESE DOING SOMETHING SNEAKY OR SECRETIVE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ON THE CALENDAR.
THIS, THE PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT IT'S POSTED.
I HAD IT REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL EXCEPTION OF THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF CLEANING UP THIS, TRYING TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO HELP US MAKE MEETINGS BETTER AS WE GO FORWARD.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE BOOK AND MY CALL.
SO I WOULD MOVE AT THIS TIME THAT WE APPROVE AND ADOPT THIS POLICY X BEING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION AND LEAVING THE BOOK SHARING PORTION AS IT EXISTS CURRENTLY TODAY WITH NO TIME LEFT AND THEN ON THE INDIVIDUAL SKIERS AND ET CETERA, TOM, WHAT DO YOU MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THAT, WHICH I THINK HAD ALREADY BEEN A POLICY THAT WILL INCLUDE THEM ALL SPREAD.
JIM SANDRA THAT'S CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO.
THE ONLY CHANGE YOU WANT TO MAKE IS TO NOT LIMIT INDIVIDUALS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION SHOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK AS WE'RE DOING IT CURRENTLY UNLIMITED.
THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT MODIFICATION.
IS THERE A SECOND, JAMES, GO SECOND.
WELL, THE CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER.
MADRANO UH, NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ.
[1. APPROVE RESOLUTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE LA HABRA HOUSING AUTHORITY AUTHORIZING THE DELIVERY AND SALE OF THE 2020 REFUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION, SERIES A, AND AUTHORIZING CERTAIN OTHER ACTIONS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH That the City Council and La Habra Housing Authority: A. APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. ______ ENTITLED: A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA AUTHORIZING DELIVERY AND SALE OF NOT TO EXCEED $13,000,000 PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, OF REFUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION TO REFINANCE THE 2010 CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION RELATING TO CERTAIN MOBILE HOME PARK PROJECTS, AND APPROVING RELATED DOCUMENTS AND MATTERS; and, B. APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. ______ ENTITLED: A RESOLUTION OF THE LA HABRA HOUSING AUTHORITY AUTHORIZING THE DELIVERY OF REFUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION IN THE AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED $13,000,000 TO REFINANCE 2010 CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION RELATING TO CERTAIN MOBILE HOME PARK PROJECTS, AND APPROVING RELATED DOCUMENTS AND MATTERS.]
TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ITEM IS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ANDMR. MAYOR CITY MANAGER SADRO UM, UM, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. SHANNON WILL BE PRESENT PROVIDING THE REPORT.
THEY GAVE ME A LATERAL MAYOR, THE MISSION CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WELL AS HOUSING AUTHORITY, CHAIR AND DIRECTORS.
AS YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE JULY 20TH, 2020 JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND THE HARBOR HOUSING AUTHORITY MEETING AUTHORIZATION WAS GIVEN FOR THE INITIATION OR PROCEEDINGS TO REFINANCE OUTSTANDING CITY OF ALHAMBRA, 2010, B FUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION SERIES, A PARKLAND HARBOR VIEW PARK.
WE FINANCING PROJECT ASTOUND STAFF NOW RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING THE DELIVERY AND SALE OF NOT TO EXCEED $13 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 2020.
WE FUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION TO WE FINANCE THE 2010 CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATIONS RELATING TO THE PARKLAND HUB AND VIEW PARK MOBILE HOME PARK PROJECTS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR APPEAL HAS BEEN ROLLED UP.
AN ASSOCIATES STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CURRENT BOND CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF YOUR FUNDING CERTIFICATES.
THREE FUNDS THE OUTSTANDING CERTIFICATES BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS WHERE THE FUNDING OF THE OUTSTANDING 2010 CERTIFICATE THAT IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE TOTAL GROSS DEBT SAVINGS OF OVER $6 MILLION OVER THE REMAINING LIFE OF THE INDEBTEDNESS.
THE AVERAGE ANNUAL SAVINGS ARE PROJECTED TO BE $300,000 WITH FINAL MATURITY IN 2042 TAX RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF THE 2020 CERTIFICATES AND EXECUTION OF ALL RELATED FINANCING DOCUMENTS.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
NO, I JUST, BEFORE YOU START, I JUST MENTIONED THERE EVERYBODY, OUR CREDIT RATING IS REALLY GOOD AT THIS POINT.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU AND CITY MANAGER STEERING US THROUGH ALL THIS FINANCIAL STUFF THAT'S GOING ON.
SO I THINK IT'S A CREDIT TO YOU AND YOUR FINANCIAL TEAM.
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HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT MR. MAYOR.THEN I WILL OPEN THE CARING AND I WOULD ADD THOSE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT ON YOUR MONEY.
SO THOSE IN SUPPORT OPPOSITION CAN SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
ANYBODY ON THE LINE SPEAK WITH US? NO, MR. MAYOR.
UH, INDICATING THE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CALL FOR BOTH QUESTIONS.
MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMAN MEDRANO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION ENTITLED THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAHABRA AUTHORIZING DELIVERY AND SALE OF NOT TO EXCEED $13 MILLION PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF REFUNDS CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION TO REFINANCE THE 2010 CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION WITH LEADING TO CERTAIN MOBILE HOME PARK PROJECTS AND APPROVED RELATED DOCUMENTS MATTERS AND ALSO APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION TITLE.
CAN WE DO THESE SEPARATE CAUSE ONE'S COUNCIL ONE'S HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THEN I'LL NOTICE THAT NUMBER, RIGHT.
MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA MAYOR BEAMISH YES.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE AND ADOPT RESIDENCY ENTITLED THE RESOLUTION OF THE HARBOR HOUSING AUTHORITY AUTHORIZING AND DELIVER THE DELIVERY OF REFUNDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION IN THE AGGREGATE PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED $13 MILLION TO FINANCE 2010 CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION RELATING TO CERTAIN MOBILE HOME PARK PROJECTS AND APPROVING RELATED DOCUMENTS AND MATTERS.
UH, THAT'S THE ONLY PUBLIC SHARING.
OH, WELL NOW GO TO CONSIDERATION ITEMS, A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE AND REQUESTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY CONSIDERATION ITEM PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND A FINAL VOTE ON THE ITEM, THE MAYOR WASN'T BY HER ASK THE PERSON TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM OR CALL I GUESS, AND SPEAK TO CHINA.
MISS CALL SPEAKERS, MISS SPLENDID COMMENTS, TWO OR THREE MINUTES EACH,
[1. CONSIDER A REQUEST TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION OF PROPOSITION 15 That the City Council consider a request from the Orange County Taxpayers Association (OCTax) to: A. APPROVE AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. ____ ENTITLED: A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA, OPPOSING PROPOSITION 15 ON THE NOVEMBER 3, 2020, BALLOT AND AFFIRMATION OF SUPPORT FOR PROPOSITION 13 FOR ALL PROPERTY OWNERS; and B. Provide direction to staff.]
AND WE'RE THERE TO CONSENT OR A TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND AN OPPOSITION, A PROPOSITION 15 AND STAFF REPORT.THIS IS ROBERT FERRIER FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THIS ITEM ISN'T BROUGHT FORTH AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR BEAMISH AND COUNCILMAN SHAW, THE ORANGE COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION ALSO KNOWN AS OCB TAX RECENTLY CONTACTED CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY WITH THE REQUEST THAT THEY ADOPT THE RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION TO PROPOSITION 15, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE MEASURE ON THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER 3RD BALLOT.
IF APPROVED BY THE VOTERS PROPOSITION 15 WOULD CHANGE THE METHOD BY WHICH PROPERTY TAXES ARE CALCULATED.
A PROCESS THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE IN 1978, WHEN THE VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION 13 AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, NO PROP 13 SET THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AT 1% OF THE PROPERTY'S PURCHASE PRICE, SUBJECT TO ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS EQUAL TO THE RATE OF INFLATION OR 2%, WHICHEVER IS LESS BECAUSE MARKET VALUES CAN INCREASE AT A RATE GREATER THAN 2% PER YEAR.
THE TAXABLE VALUE OF A PROPERTY CAN OFTEN BE LOWER THAN THE PROPERTY'S MARKET VALUE.
SHOULD PROPOSITION 15 BE APPROVED.
THIS NOVEMBER COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES WOULD BE TAXED AT THEIR MARKET VALUE, NOT IN RELATION TO THEIR LAST PURCHASE PRICE.
THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, WHICH IS KNOWN AS A SPLIT ROLE WOULD NOT AFFECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES,
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WHICH WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ASSESSED TAXES ACCORDING TO THEIR PURCHASE PRICE, SUBJECT TO THE MOTIVE, ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT JUST DESCRIBED ADVOCATES OF PROPOSITION 15 ESTIMATE THE INITIATIVE COULD GENERATE AS MUCH AS 6.5 TO $11.5 BILLION IN NEW REVENUE ANNUALLY.HOWEVER, IT IS NOT IMMEDIATELY CLEAR HOW MUCH OR HOW QUICKLY CITIES MIGHT BENEFIT FROM ANY OF THIS NEW POTENTIAL REVENUE.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WHILE THE ORANGE COUNTY DIVISION OF THE LEAGUE, CALIFORNIA CITIES IS OPPOSED TO PROPOSITION 15, THE LEAGUE ITSELF HAS NOT YET TAKEN A STAND ON THE MEASURE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THEY HAVE NOT YET PREPARED ANY ESTIMATES OF HOW THE PROCESS COULD WORK OUT, CITING THE COMPLEXITY OF HOW PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE ASSESSED, THE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHICH PROPERTIES WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SPLIT ROLE AND WHICH WOULD BE EXEMPT.
AND THE NEED TO CLARIFY HOW PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE COLLECTED AND ALLOCATED TO THE VARIOUS TAX AND ENTITIES SUCH AS COUNTIES, CITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SPECIAL DISTRICTS, ET CETERA.
IF PROP 15 WERE TO BE APPROVED, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE WOULD STILL NEED TO CONSIDER AND ADOPT IMPLEMENTATION LEGISLATION, WHICH WOULD NOT LIKELY OCCUR UNTIL SIX MONTHS OR MORE AFTER THE INITIATIVE IS CONSIDERED.
WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL, CONSIDER THE REQUESTS FROM OSI, TAXED, THEIR DRAFT RESOLUTION, AND TAKE ACTION AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF AS IT DEEMS MOST APPROPRIATE.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
A QUESTION FROM THE MAYOR, ROB.
SO MAYBE YOU SAID IT, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
SO THIS INITIATIVE JUST LIKE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, CORRECT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T SEE WHO THE WHO'S WHO DRAFTED.
IN OTHER WORDS, ON A SIGN, THE PETITION OUT THERE IN CALIFORNIA, IT WAS JUST A LEGISLATIVE.
I'M LOOKING, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE SPONSOR OR THE LEGISLATION.
I THINK I'LL ADD, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD TO GET SIGNATURES TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT.
CAN'T THE LEGISLATE BUY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, I GUESS THAT, LET ME ASK YOU, THIS IS, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS UP TO, TO PUT ON THE BATHROOM WHEN IT WAS PUT ON THE BALLOT? WHEN DID THEY SAY WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BALLOT OF THIS LAST YEAR? IT WAS TAKEN LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER 3RD BALLOT FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THE QUESTION COMES UP THIS NOVEMBER, BUT ACTUALLY WHEN IT QUALIFIED FOR THE BALLOT, I, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE TIMING OF IT.
IT WAS PRE COVID OR POST COVID, UH, COLLEAGUES.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TAKING THE POSITION ON IT, ROB, UH, SIR, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU I WAS ON, I SERVED ON THE BOARD UNTIL, UM, A MONTH AGO AND WE HAD NOT CONSIDERED IT UP TO THAT POINT.
HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY FROM THE CHAMBERS ON THE LINE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, IT WOULD, UH, GO ON, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
AT LEAST THE SITE I'M LOOKING AT INDICATES THAT PROP 15 WAS PLACED ON THE BALLOT.
THE ORIGIN WAS CITIZENS HAS SAID.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS IMPLIED THAT THIS WAS A CITIZEN BASED INITIATIVE.
UM, WHEN DID IT QUALIFY? UH, UM, I'M LOOKING REALLY QUICKLY ON HERE.
IT DOES NOT THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
MIKE AND I, BUT MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE POSITION IS ON THIS IS THERE, DO WE, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT TODAY A WEEK? WE CAN TAKE WHATEVER ACTION WE WANT.
I'M HOPING THAT WE INVITE THE PUBLIC TO TESTIFY SOMEBODY FROM THE CHAMBERS ON THE LINE TO TALK ABOUT.
WE'LL FIND, FIND OUT MR. MAY I ASSUME THIS QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE LAHABRA CHAMBER? CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER, WELL HEARTBEAT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I HAD ALREADY INQUIRED WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE LEAGUE POSITION BECAUSE I HADN'T READ IT IN THE REPORT.
UM, BUT UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, GIRL ON THIS PRODUCT BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.
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A POSITION THAT LA HARBOR CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE WITH TAKING A, I CAN PRETTY MUCH GET IT.NOW WE'RE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.
SO WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN IT'S COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN DEBATING AT THIS POINT.
AND SO I, AT THAT POINT I'D INVITE THE PUBLIC TESTIFY.
IF YOU WOULD, FOR THE RECORD IS GOING ON.
THE LINE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE COUNCIL.
ANYBODY BRIANNA HIRE SOMEBODY.
NO, MR. MAYOR, THERE IS NOBODY ON THE LINE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, BUT WE DID HAVE PEOPLE JOIN US RECENTLY.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE ON YOUR PHONE AND THAT WILL RAISE YOUR HAND TO SPEAK.
UM, MR. MAYOR MURRAY, LOVE YOGA.
UM, RAISE YOUR HAND AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE HER NOW.
JUST LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S A SLIGHT DELAY IN, UM, ZOOM RIGHT NOW.
JUST SAYING LIKE IT GETS LONGER.
SO I
I GOT, UM, I DID FIND THAT THE, THERE WAS CERTIFICATION OF TWO VERSIONS OF THIS BILL OR THIS INITIATIVE.
THE FIRST ONE WAS IN OCTOBER OF 28, UH, 2018.
AND THEN MORE RECENTLY IT WAS RECERTIFIED, UH, MAY 22ND OF THIS YEAR.
SO THERE WAS SOME SORT OF EITHER LEGAL ACTION OR SOME CLARIFICATION HAD TO BEEN MADE, BUT IT APPEARED THAT THERE WERE TWO CERTIFICATIONS OF THIS INITIATIVE.
SO IT STARTED IN OCTOBER, 2018.
THANK YOU FOR LOOKING THAT UP, MARIA, ON THE LINE YET, BRIANNA, I APOLOGIZE, MR. MAYOR.
I'M STILL TRYING TO UNMUTE HER, BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WILL NOT.
HI HERE ON MEETING CHRISTINE COOK.
INSTEAD OF THE OTHER LADY, I HAD EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU THOUGH, MR. MAYOR, FOR THE RECORD, I CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK TO LIVE MEETINGS IN PERSON, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THERE'S A REAL PAIN IN THE NECK.
SO IS THERE A BIT ACKNOWLEDGED A MANAGER THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR THIS MEETING? YEAH, WE ARE.
WE'RE EVALUATING OTHER SYSTEMS BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT FEELS, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ZOOM CALLS WORK AND THERE'S OTHER TIMES WHERE WE JUST HAVE THESE ISSUES THAT COME UP THAT ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
I DON'T THINK, UH, THERE'S A DEADLINE AND WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS, IS THERE, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING DEPENDING? I DON'T THINK, UM, WELL THE, YEAH, THERE IS NOT THERE.
UH, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, WE ARE AT THIS POINT LOOKING TO CANCEL THE NEXT MEETING AND THE AFTER LABOR DAY.
SO THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, WON'T BE UNTIL SEPTEMBER,
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LET'S SEE HERE.I MEAN THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING, BUT THERE'S A REASON THAT COUNCIL COULDN'T HEAR THIS ITEM THEN.
WELL, I DON'T EITHER, BUT WITH SOME IMPORTANTLY HERE CURRY.
SO I MEAN, JUST, I DON'T MIND A COUPLE OF MORE MINUTES.
SO BRIANNA IS, SHOULD SHE RE DIAL IN OR DOES THAT CREATE MORE PROBLEMS? SHE CAN TRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON I'M UNABLE TO.
IS SHE ABLE TO HEAR US? HANG ON.
UM, MARIA, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, UH, TRY HITTING STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
I CAN LEAVE MY PHONE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WAITING ME WAITING ME.
UM, YOU CAN HEAR ME CORRECT? YES.
BECAUSE I AM NOT, UM, IN A POSITION TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD ON THIS ISSUE, I WAS REQUESTING THAT WE, UM, LOOK AT IT AS LATE YOUR TIME, BUT I DID HEAR YOUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, NOT WANTING TO DELAY IT BEYOND LABOR DAY.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION THAT I, THAT I WOULD NEED TO, I LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE BOARD, BUT I PROBABLY SHOULD CHECK WITH THEM AT LEAST.
UH, THAT'S PROBABLY WOULD BE GOOD, I GUESS I THINK SO.
WELL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TOO.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.
THAT WAS OUR TECHNOLOGY PROBLEM THERE.
BRIANNA, ANYBODY ON THE LINE? WE DO ONE MOMENT.
I'LL GO ON MUTE AND THE PERSON WILL BE ABLE TO, OKAY.
AND UM, I WILL JUST, UH, AGREE WITH YOUR CONSIDERATION, UH, TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND OPPOSITION OF PROPOSITION 15.
AND THAT IS ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
OKAY, BRIANNA, ANYBODY ELSE? NO.
THEN I WILL CLOSE THAT DISCUSSION AND FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION ACTION, YOU KNOW, THEY SAYING I, UH, UH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WAIT.
I ABSOLUTELY REASON I ASKED THE, WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT, WHICH WAS THE 2018 WAS A, SEEMS LIKE 20 YEARS AGO, BUT YOU KNOW, OH, THIS, IF THIS THING PASSES THE LEGISLATURE, IT IS GOING TO HURT BUSINESSES A LOT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTY TAX GO UP THAT IN TURN IS GOING TO MAKE THE GOODS OR SERVICES MORE ACTIVE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH THIS COVID-19 GOING AND MAYBE LIVES IN A WHILE.
THIS IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME.
AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY A TAX INCREASE.
AND I, I, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S GOING TO HURT BUSINESSES.
SO I, I WOULD SUPPRESS VOTING AGAINST, AGAINST PROP 15.
SO ANYWAY, BUT SAY AGAIN, JOSE, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I DO ACTUALLY, UH, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY WHOLEHEARTEDLY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF, UH, OF COLGATE, UH, BUT, UH, AGAIN, EVEN IF WE WEREN'T IN COVIDIEN, UH, IT SEEMS TO PENALIZE BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES AS WELL, UH, HERE IN LA HABRA AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
I THINK IF, UH, IF ANYTHING, UH, THIS, UH, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS, UH, HOW THIS MEASURE HERE, UH, BENEFITS LAHABRA AS A CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH SOME OF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT LAHABRA AS A CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, TO, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE US SOME EXTRA MONEY SOMEHOW, UM, I'M ALL EATERS, BUT, UH, NO, THIS, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAXING BUSINESSES AND WE NEED BUSINESSES IN THE STATE.
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BUSINESSES TO STAY IN LAHABRA FOR THAT MATTER AND MORE SO NOW THAT WE'RE IN THIS PANDEMIC, UH, I SUPPORT OUR BUSINESS HERE IN LA HOPPER WHOLEHEARTEDLY, UM, AND, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY, REALLY BREAKING MY HEART THAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING THROUGH THE HARDSHIPS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF US SENDING THANKS.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MANY BUSINESSES BEFORE COVID THINGS OVER AND THEY JUST DO NOT NEED ANOTHER PLACE FROM THEM THAT WILL, OR SEE EVEN MORE BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS.
UM, I, I KNOW WE DON'T OFTEN TAKE POSITIONS ON NATIONAL OR STATE ISSUES, BUT I DO FIND THIS TO BE THE EXCEPTION THAT'S SO EGREGIOUS, UM, WHAT THIS WOULD DO TO OUR, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY BY ELIMINATING PROPOSITION 13, FOR COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, IT WOULD REALLY BE A BLOW, UH, PROBABLY A NEARLY FATAL BLOW.
YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO ARE OPERATING A BRICK AND MORTAR ARE ALREADY GETTING THE AMAZON COMPETITION COMING INTO THEIR LIVES AND WOULD JUST REALLY, UM, KICK THEM WHILE THEY'RE DOWN.
SO I'M, I WAS HAPPY WHEN I GOT THE OSI TAX LETTER TO ASK THAT WE AGENDIZE THIS WITH MAYOR BEAMISH AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR CITY COUNCIL GO ON RECORD OPPOSING PROPOSITION 15.
IT'S ABOUT THE BAD IDEA THAT WON'T GO AWAY.
YOU KNOW, I, UH, I DO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS SITUATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW ARE IN A SURVIVAL MODE AND THAT THING COULD JUST FRUSTRATE SOMEBODY TO PUT THE LAST NAIL ON THE COFFIN AND HAVE THEM DECIDE TO FOLD IN AND, AND GET OUT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I AM, UH, AGAINST OUR, IN SUPPORT OF WRITING THE LETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OPPOSITION TO THE, UH, IF I ALWAYS READ WITH HIM, TOM AND JOSE ON, ON THIS MATTER, I WOULD LIKE TO HANG OUT.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHAMBER GET ON BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL, EVEN IF THEY JUST DO IT PUBLICLY AS WELL.
I'LL TALK TO MARIE TOMORROW THAT I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH, UH, ROSE, ANY COMMENTS? UM, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, UH, I HAVE THE SAME SENTIMENT THAT MY COLLEAGUES DO ON THE COUNCIL AND IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME PERIOD.
UH, I GOT TO HAVE A MOTION BUDDY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, APPROVED THE REQUEST AND BY THE ORANGE COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION, UH, TO THE DUCTAL RESOLUTION ENTITLED THE RESOLUTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF LA HABRA, CALIFORNIA OPPOSING PROPOSITION 15 ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 BALLOT, AND AFFIRM OUR SUPPORT FOR PROPOSITION 13 FOR ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.
I'LL SECOND THAT NOW CITY MANAGER SADRO, THIS HAS AN PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF.
THE, YOU SAID, AND THIS IS SUFFICIENT, THIS MOTION, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION TONIGHT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION WE NEED.
SECOND THAT WITH THE CLERK, PLEASE.
[ MAYOR’S COMMUNITY CALENDAR:]
WE'LL GO TO DO THE HEIRS COMMUNITY CALENDAR.UH, SOME OF THIS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST FIVE, I THINK, BUT, UH, PLEASE STAY INFORMED OF BACKGROUND OF IRA, BUT YOU CAN DO TO HELP SLOW THE SPREAD.
UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE CDC ORANGE COUNTY HEALTH AGENCY.
THEY BOTH REMIND US OF SEVERAL ACTION SUPPLY ACTIONS WE TAKE, OF COURSE, WASH YOUR HANDS EARLY AND FREQUENTLY WITH SOAP OR USE AN ALCOHOL BASED HAND SANITIZER YOUR MOUTH AND NOSE WHEN COUGHING OR SNEEZING AND AVOID TOUCHING YOUR EYES, NOSE AND MOUTH CLEAN AND DISINFECT FREQUENTLY TOUCHED SURFACES.
AND FOR MORE INFORMATION OF THE WEBS BITES OR STAY IN THIS
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COVID-19 BREAD, EASILY PERSON TO PERSON, AS IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE COVID-19 AND HAVE NO SYMPTOMS. IT'S SIMPLE, ACTIVE WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC CAN HELP SLOW THE SPREADS OF DISEASE, WHERE OUR MASKS AND OUR PUBLIC SPACE.WHEN WE'RE IN LINE, WHEN YOU'RE IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR A RIDE SHARING SERVICE AT WORK, WHEN ARROWS ARE MOVING THROUGH COMMON AREAS AND OUTDOORS, YOU CANNOT MAKE AN, A SOCIAL DISTANCE SPEED FROM THE OTHERS.
WE ARE ALL BETTER AT THAT FROM COVID-19 FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAD COVID-19, UH, CA.GOV, UH, CITY HALLS IS THE SAME CITY HALL POLICE STATION LOBBY COMMUNITY CENTER.
A DESK ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, BUT STILL ALL OF THEIR CITY FACILITIES ARE CLOSED OUT.
PUBLIC ARE OPEN PASS WITH YOUTH, JUST SOCIAL DISTANCING, BUT LAY GROUND SPIT IS EQUIPMENT AND SPORT IS TEMPORARY CLOSED KNOW ALWAYS CITY OPERATIONS CONTINUE AFTER IT'S AVAILABLE BY PHONE OR EMAIL FOR THOSE WHO WISH NOT TO COME TO STAY ALL.
IF YOU DO VISIT A CITY FACILITY, PLEASE REMEMBER TO WEAR A MASK OR FACE COVERING FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CALL (562) 383-4010.
THAT IS ONLINE AT
SO IF YOU'VE NOT PLEADED YOUR FORM TO DO SO, YOUR PARTICIPATION IS VITAL BECAUSE IT DETERMINES CONDITIONAL REPRESENTATION AND HOW BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FEDERAL FUNDING ARE ALLOCATED TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR NATION.
AND WE CERTAIN NEED ALL FUNDING.
WE CAN GET CENSUS FORMS WERE SENT TO EVERY HOUSE THIS PAST MARCH AND RESPONDERS CAN STILL SUBMITTED TO THE CENSUS BUREAU BY PHONE OR ONLINE.
JUST CURRENT RESPONSE RATE IS NARROWING RESPONSE RATE FROM THE LAST CENSUS 2010, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED EVERY HELL DID PARTICIPATE.
FORMATION IS CALLED SEEDS VISIT, UH, 2020 CENSUS.GOV.
JOINING THE CONVERSATION AS PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOCUS, BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.
THE CITY CONDUCTED A COMMUNITY SURVEY TO GAUGE RESONANT OPINION ON SERVICE CHARITIES, AND WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU TO PROVIDE YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND PLEASE DO CLICK IN THE CONVERSATION ICON NEAR THE SIDE OF THE CITY SOFT PAGE, UH LAHABRA AND, AND COMPLETE A SHORT ONLINE FORM AND MORE INFORMATION.
JUST CALL FIVE (562) 383-4010.
THE UNION CALENDAR COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
[ COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS/DIRECTORS:]
YOU.COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL OR I'LL GO BACKWARDS.
THE MEMBER JIM DOES, UH, THIS SOUNDS KIND OF ODD, BUT I DO WANT TO OFFER, UH, MY CONDOLENCES CRAIG COOK, UH, YEAH.
AT A, A, A, A MONKEY THAT WAS TREATED AS KIND OF A COMPANION AND AN AID.
AND, AND IT WAS THERE FOR, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE 15, 20 YEARS OR SOMETHING.
AND, AND I'VE HAD TO SPEND TIME.
I'VE DONE INTERVIEWS WITH THEM, UH, OVER THE YEARS.
IT WOULD GET THE MICROWAVE IT'S THAT CLOSED BRIM.
I MEAN, IT WAS THE MOST UNBELIEVABLE THING.
IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT A COMPANION DOG DOES, AND IT IS DEVASTATING ON THE COOK FAMILY TO SEE A LITTLE MINI PASS AWAY.
SO I JUST WENT OFF ON MY CONDOLENCES TO THE CRAIG FAMILY AND MANY, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM BECAUSE OF NEW GUIDELINES WITH A STATE TO REPLACE THIS GUIDE MONKEY.
SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM MAYBE OUR LEGISLATORS RECONSIDER THAT LAW, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS PHENOMENAL WHAT THIS LITTLE MINI WOULD DO.
I REMEMBER WHEN HE GOT THAT MONKEY WAY BACK WHEN, AND I THINK IF I'M NOT IN CRACK THAT HE, HE WAS VERY FIRST WEAPON TO HAVE A COMPANION, NOT STRIPE.
SO WHEN I THINK I'LL MAKE A CALL PICTURES, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY'RE WHOLE, THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE OF THE CODE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME REASON.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP, UH, ONE RELATES TO OUR COLOR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WHO BROUGHT UP THE SAFE AND SANE FIREWORK ISSUE.
I, UM, OF COURSE I BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE PAST
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AND I THINK HE MADE A COMPELLING POINT THAT PERHAPS GOING FORWARD, THE IDEA OF GATHERING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER IN THE, IN THE SAME PLACE LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.EVEN IF THE ORDER IS LIFTED, PEOPLE MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN GETTING IN LARGE GROUPS, UH, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, UM, VIRUSES BEING SPREAD AND SUCH.
SO FOR THAT REASON, AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE FINANCIAL REASON THAT WE'VE EVERY YEAR WHEN WE PUT ON A FIREWORKS SHOW, OF COURSE WE LOSE, YOU KNOW, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AS WE SUBSIDIZE THE SHOW.
UH, AND RATHER THAN LOSING MONEY, PERHAPS BY LEGALIZING SAFE AND SANE, WE CAN NOT ONLY PERHAPS, UH, MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE OUT SELLING IT.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE'VE HAD CHANGES ON OUR COUNCIL AS WELL TO AGENDA AS AN ITEM IN THE FUTURE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE 4TH OF JULY IS NOWHERE NEAR US.
WE STILL GOT, UH, ALMOST THE WHOLE YEAR TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT AT A FUTURE AGENDA, I WOULD ASK THAT WE, UM, CONSIDER THE LEGALIZATION OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS.
IF THERE'S A SECOND MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
I THINK COVID-19 IS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR AWHILE.
WE'LL HAVE OUR 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS NEXT JULY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
SO I'M FINE WITH AGENDA SIZING IT AND HAVING THAT DISCUSSION PROBABLY WITH HER, NOT HAVE TO BE HERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS COMING UP HERE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S THE OTHER THING, TENTS TOM, FOR THAT.
UH, THE OTHER ITEM I'VE, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S INTERESTING HAVING TO SET THAT DISCUSSION.
I THINK OUR PROCESS OF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER ASKING ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER PERMISSION TO AGENDA AS AN ITEM IS THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE MORE I FIND IT TO BE INHERENTLY FLAWED.
I DON'T THINK THAT OUR COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, IN THE RECENT PAST, OR PROBABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WOULD, UM, BEHAVE THIS WAY, BUT IT WOULD BE THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE FOR FOUR PEOPLE ON A COUNCIL TO COMPLETELY, UM, REMOVE THE VOICE OF A FIFTH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SIMPLY BY REFUSING TO EVER HEAR ITEMS THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD EVER WANT TO DISCUSS.
AND OBVIOUSLY OUR STATE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T OPERATE THIS WAY.
ANY MEMBER OF THE ASSEMBLY OF THE SENATE CAN INTRODUCE A BILL OR IN CONGRESS, YOU KNOW, ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL DOESN'T NEED TO ASK THEIR COLLEAGUE PERMISSION TO INTRODUCE A BILL.
AND FRANKLY, I, YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR MEETINGS WHEN WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH ZOOM OR TELEPHONE MEETINGS ARE ACTUALLY USUALLY PRETTY SHORT.
WE, WHY I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRO TO CHANGE THAT POLICY TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, TO AGENDA ITEM.
AND PERHAPS IF WE, IF WE DO GET A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO GOES CRAZY WITH AGENDA USING THINGS THAT ARE REALLY UNNECESSARY AND JUST A BIG DISTRACTION, MAYBE WE'D GO BACK TO THE POLICY OF NEEDING TO.
BUT I WOULD, I THINK IT'S PREFERABLE TO HAVE A POLICY WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS FREE TO AGENDA AS AN ITEM.
SHOULD THEY SO DESIRE? AND HERE I NEED A SECOND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO AGREE WITH THAT, UH, TO EVEN HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
I WOULD AGREE WITH HAVING THE DISCUSSION AT SOME TIME OF FUTURES.
WE'VE HAD THIS POLICY FOR A WHILE, SO IT DOESN'T HURT TO REVISIT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
ANYTHING ELSE, TIM? THAT'S IT FOR ME? THAT'S IT.
JOSE, CAN YOU HEAR ME THERE BETTER? UH, CAN BETTER.
UH, YEAH, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR, UH, OUR CITY STAFF AND OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AGAIN FOR THE CONTINUED HARD WORK THAT BE PUT IN A DAY IN DAY OUT.
AND, UH, EVERY, UH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO PUT ON OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UH, I ALSO, UH, WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, UH, MEL SHANNON AND, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, OUR CITY STAFF AND CITY MANAGER, JIM SADRO FOR, UH, FOR, UH, OBTAINING THAT BOND RATING, WHICH, UH, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, FISCAL PRUDENCE THAT WE PRACTICE HERE IN LAHABRA AND, AND WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY, UH, HOPEFULLY OUR, OUR RESIDENTS, UH, UH, REALIZE THAT THE, UH, THE TYPE OF WORK THAT COMES HERE.
AND OF COURSE THE, THE HARD TIMES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THESE, UH, IN THESE NEXT FEW YEARS, BECAUSE OF OUR CURRENT SITUATION AND OTHER
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SITUATIONS, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S HIM.MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
UH, MY COMMENTS ARE LIKE, CAUSE I, I REALLY PRAY WITH STAFF CLEAN THE CONDITIONS THAT EVERYBODY'S WORKING ON, ESPECIALLY THOSE WORKING OUT IN THE FIELD, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS PEOPLE, UH, ESPECIALLY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, AND FIRE.
UH, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND, AND IT'S DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TIME, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR LAW IN, UH, DOING THE RIGHT THING AND OUT THERE AND PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CITY.
THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD, I THINK IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER IN THE MEETING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MEET AGAIN IN NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCE, WITHIN THE CITY, ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I THINK ALL MY COLLEAGUES WOULD AGREE WE'D MUCH RATHER BE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BUILDING A MEETING THEY'RE HAVING BACK THE NORM, HAVING SET OUT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SOON THINGS WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL.
SO, UM, I HAD GIVEN A DIRECTION TO STAFF, SOME TACO AND THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING ON IT.
BUT WHEN WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING I HAD OF US, UH, LOGISTICALLY HOW TO HANDLE THAT AND STILL HAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER OPEN OF COUNCIL MEMBER PRESENCE TO HEAR PUBLIC ON THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S CHALLENGING, BUT A CONFIDENCE F WILL COME THROUGH WITH A GREAT LOGISTICS PLAN AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOLD A PRETTY GOOD HEARING.
I'M CONFIDENT OF THAT, THAT THE
[ ADJOURNMENT:]
CITY COUNCIL MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2020 IS CANCELED MONDAY, SEPTEMBER SEVEN, 2020 IS LIZ DAY HOLIDAY.SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2020.
THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED STAY BASED AND WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.