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[ CALL TO ORDER: Council Chamber INVOCATION: City Attorney Jones PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Mayor Pro Tem Espinoza ROLL CALL: Mayor Beamish Mayor Pro Tem Espinoza Councilmember Gomez Councilmember Medrano Councilmember Shaw]
WE WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA.THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 19TH, 2020.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IT IS 6:30 PM.
THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY A CITY ATTORNEY.
RICHARD JONES FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA.
GET ALL RISE, ASK YOU TO PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.
WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, AS WE PARTICIPATE IN THIS ACT OF DEMOCRACY, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR LIFE AND THE HUMILITY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE REGARDING OUR PURPOSE HERE ON EARTH.
WE ASK YOU TO BLESS ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE THIS EVENING.
THEY DO SO WITH CIVILITY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANT MATTERS THAT THE COUNCIL'S FACING TO DO.
SO WITH RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT COUNCIL MUST MAKE THIS EVENING, WE'LL GAVE UP FOR YOUR LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THIS COMMUNITY.
WE SEE THESE THINGS HUMBLING, MY SON'S NAME.
YEAH, PLEASE FACE I NATIONS FLAG HAND OVER HEART BEGIN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WELL, THE CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAYOR.
MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, DEAR COUNCIL MEMBER MEDRANO HERE.
THERE ARE NO CLOSED SESSIONS ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS TIME.
THERE ARE NO PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS.
[ PUBLIC COMMENTS: When addressing the City Council, please complete a Speaker’s Card before leaving the Council Chamber. General Public Comments shall be received at the beginning of the governing body meeting and limited to three (3) minutes per individual, with a total time limit of 30 minutes for all public comments, unless otherwise modified by the Mayor or Chair. Speaking time may not be granted and/or loaned to another individual for purposes of extending available speaking time, and comments must be kept brief, non-repetitive, and professional in nature. The general Public Comment portion of the meeting allows the public to address any item of City business not appearing on the scheduled agenda. Per Government Code Section 54954.3(a), such comments shall not be responded to by the governing body during the meeting.]
WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.ONE OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE RECEIVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOVERNING BODY MEETING AND LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL WITH A TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR OR CHAIR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED AND OR LONG TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF THE CITY BUSINESS, NOT APPEARING ON THE SCHEDULE, THE AGENDA FOR GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE, FOUR NINE FIVE, 4.3, A SUCH A COMMENT SHALL NOT BE RESPONDED TO BY THE GOVERNING BODY DURING THE MEETING.
SO WHEN ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD AND BEFORE ENTERING THE CHAMBER AND I UNDERSTOOD WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS, SO IF WE CAN BE CIVIL AND IT'S IN REGARDS TO SOMETHING, NOT CONNECTED TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, RANCHO BARBARA, JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
HI, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS ROB MADRANO.
HOW ARE YOU? I LIVE IN THE CITY OF WHITTIER NEXT DOOR.
SO I'M HERE FOR A REASON TO VOICE MY OPINION, COUNCILMAN SHAW, IF HE COULD, UH, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ME CAUSE I, I WANT TO BE SINCERE TO YOU.
UM, I WAS VERY, VERY HURT BY THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED THE LAST WEEK OR SO YOUR COMMENTS WERE VERY HURTFUL, NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY, THE LAHABRA, BUT ALSO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO PROTECTS US AND ALSO MY FAMILY MEMBERS, MY MOM AND DAD CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS FOR A BETTER PLACE TO AVOID PUBLIC CORRUPTION.
IT JUST TO BE IN THIS LAND THAT WE ENJOY.
TWO OF MY SIBLINGS WERE ALSO BORN IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES THAT CAME TO THIS COUNTRY.
TIM, LET ME TELL YOU EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES AND I'M WILLING TO FORGIVE.
BUT WHAT YOU SAID WAS EXTREMELY HURTFUL AND IT'S VERY UNBECOMING OF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND OF A, OF A PROFESSOR OF A PUBLIC COLLEGE.
I HAD EXPLAINED TO MY DAUGHTER, WHO'S 11 YEARS OLD ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE REGARDING FAMILY MEMBERS.
MY MOTHER WHO PASSED ON OF DEMENTIA OR ALZHEIMER'S 10 YEARS AGO,
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I PRAY FOR YOUR FAMILY, TIM.I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU DESERVE TO BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
BUT ULTIMATELY I PRAY FOR YOU PRAY FOR YOUR FAMILY AND FOR YOUR KIDS, THAT THEY BRING HEALING IN YOUR LIFE AND THAT YOU LEARNED SOMETHING OF THIS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER, BRIANNA.
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE HERE IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC IN OCTOBER, 2020, OUR NATION GRIPPED BY FEAR OVER A VIRUS THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER A PUBLIC HEARING, BEEN TRADITIONALLY A HEARING WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND WE ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AN INTERRUPTED AT THE TOPIC ON HAND.
AND FOR MANY OF US, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS OUR FIRST EVER EXPERIENCE WITH A HEARING OF THIS MED MAGNITUDE AND THIS MUCH PUBLIC INTEREST.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WE ALWAYS ASK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR AN IN PERSON HEARING BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN IN PERSON HEARING WHERE THE CONSTITUENTS CAN BE IN THE SAME ROOM AS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAKING DIRECTLY.
AND THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO COME AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
MAYOR BEAMISH YOU'VE OFTEN TOLD US THAT YOU'VE BEEN KNOWN TO CHANGE YOUR MIND BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HEARD DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YES, WE KNOW THAT AN IN PERSON HEARING IS THE MOST DESIRED METHOD.
HOWEVER, THIS IS THE YEAR 2020, THE YEAR OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC.
AND WE NEVER ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD BE IN THIS POSITION AT THIS TIME.
WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING CALLS ALL WEEK FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW TO ATTEND THIS HEARING WHEN THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE TOGETHER IN A LARGE CROWD.
AND LAST WEEK WE SENT SOME OF THOSE LETTERS RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE LIKE ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE SITTING THERE IN THE PARKING LOT WAITING TO SPEAK.
AND SOON IT'S GOING TO BECOME DARK AND COLD.
AND I FEEL REALLY BAD FOR THEM.
SOME OF THEM MAY WAIT THREE TO FOUR DAYS TO SPEAK.
I WISH YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL, BUT YOU CAN'T.
CAUSE YOU'RE INSIDE HERE WITH A CLOSED CIRCUIT TV.
SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SICK AND SOME OF THEM ARE ELDERLY AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THESE HARSH CONDITIONS WAITING FOR THEIR TURN TO SPEAK.
BUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION, THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
SO BEFORE THIS HEARING COMMENCES, I'M ASKING YOU TO ALL CONSIDER TO DO WHAT YOU DID WHEN YOU FIRST RETURNED BACK TO CHAMBERS IN AUGUST.
AT THAT TIME YOU MET IN CHAMBERS AND THEN YOU HAD THE PUB, THE PUBLIC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BY DIALING A PHONE NUMBER AT A DESIGNATED TIME.
ALTHOUGH NOT IN PERSON, OUR VOICES WERE BROADCASTED TO THE COUNCIL OVER A SPEAKER, AN OPTION LIKE THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE COUNCIL TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE ACCOMMODATING ALL THEIR CITIZENS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SO MANY CITIZENS THAT ARE SHUT OUT OF THIS HEARING BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TO BE IN A CROWD AND I DON'T BLAME THEM.
SO PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD AND CONSIDER OUT ADDING A TELEPHONE CALL AN OPTION FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
I KNOW COUNCIL DOESN'T TYPICALLY RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE DESPERATELY NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT.
SO PLEASE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY CONCERNS.
NO MORE SPEAKERS THAT WAS QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT.
SO I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY JUST A QUICK REMARK THAT I DID RECEIVE SOME LETTERS AS WE ALL DID FROM SPEAKERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO COME TONIGHT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
AND SO THAT'S A VERY VIABLE WAY TO CORRESPOND WITH US.
[ CONSENT CALENDAR: All matters on Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless a Councilmember, City staff member, or member of the audience requests separate action or removal of an item. Removed items will be considered following the Consent Calendar portion of this agenda. Public comment shall be limited to three (3) minutes per individual, with a total time limit of 30 minutes per item that has been removed for separate discussion, unless otherwise modified by the Mayor. Speaking time may not be granted and/or loaned to another individual for purposes of extending available speaking time, and comments must be kept brief, non-repetitive, and professional in nature.]
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION.
THIS AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL BE LIMITED THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL, BUT THE TOTAL TIME LIMIT OF 30 MINUTES PER ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE MAYOR.
SPEAKING TIME MAY NOT BE GRANTED OR LOANED TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL FOR PURPOSES OF EXTENDING AVAILABLE.
SPEAKING TIME, AND COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF OR NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
THE CONSENT CALENDAR APPEARS ON THE AUDIENCE AGENDA ITEMS. ONE THROUGH SIX WITH STAFF LIKED TO REMOVE AN ITEM.
ANYONE ON COUNCIL HEARING NONE THEN, IS THERE ANYONE
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IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ITEM REMOVE? IS SOMEBODY OUT THERE TO SEE IF ANYBODY GOT IT? NEVERMIND.THERE'S NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO REMOVE AN ITEM, JIM.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
IT WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER MAGENTO.
MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA MAYOR BEAMISH YES.
[1. CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED RANCHO LA HABRA RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT 1400 SOUTH LA HABRA HILLS DRIVE, TO INCLUDE: DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT; GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 18-01 TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM OPEN SPACE TO RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY 1 FOR PLANNING AREA 1 (15-245 UNITS/ACRE), LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL (0-8 UNITS/ACRE) FOR PLANNING AREAS 2, 3 & 4, AND TO MIXED USE 1 FOR PLANNING AREA 5 OF THE RANCHO LA HABRA SPECIFIC PLAN; THE ADOPTION OF THE RANCHO LA HABRA SPECIFIC PLAN; AMENDMENT #3 TO THE LA HABRA HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN; ZONE CHANGE 18-01 FROM LA HABRA HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN TO RANCHO LA HABRA SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE AREA OCCUPIED BY THE WESTRIDGE GOLF COURSE; DESIGN REVIEW 18-01 THROUGH 18-05 FOR RANCHO LA HABRA SPECIFIC PLAN AREAS 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, AND 7; DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT 18-01 FOR THE RANCHO LA HABRA SPECIFIC PLAN; AND, AN APPEAL OF THE DENIAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 17845 It is recommended that the City Council review the information provided in, and attached to, this report, along with public testimony provided at the hearing, and the Planning Commission's recommendation, and direct staff to prepare resolution(s) and ordinance(s) as appropriate regarding the approval or denial of: Certification of the Draft Environmental Impact Report; General Plan Amendment 18-01 to change the Land Use Designation from Open Space to Residential Multi-family 1 (15-24 Units/acre) for Planning Area 1, Low Density Residential (0-8 units/acre) for Planning Areas 2, 3 & 4, and to Mixed Use 1 for Planning Area 5 of the Rancho La Habra Specific Plan; Amendment #3 to the La Habra Hills Specific Plan; Change in land use designation for Zone 18-01 from La Habra Hills Specific Plan to Rancho La Habra Specific Plan for the area occupied by the Westridge Golf Course; Adoption of the Rancho La Habra Specific Plan; Design Review 18-01 through 18-05 for Rancho La Habra Specific Plan Areas 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7; Development Agreement 18-01 for the Rancho La Habra Specific Plan; and, Appeal of the Planning Commission’s denial of Vesting Tentative Tract Map 17845 at 1400 South La Habra Hills Drive. CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CEQA): An Environmental Impact Report for this proposed project was prepared pursuant to CEQA (Pub. Resources Code § 21000, et seq.) and the CEQA Guidelines (14 CCR § 15000, et seq.). A Scoping Meeting was held on December 8, 2015 at the La Habra Community Center to solicit information and comments from interested parties on what information or areas of study should be included in the initial report. The Draft Environmental Impact Report was circulated for public review and comment pursuant to CEQA Guidelines Section 15072 on February 26, 2018 for a 45-day review period, which was extended by the City Council to end on May 10, 2018. Potential impacts identified and analyzed in the Draft EIR included: Land Use and Planning Population and Housing Aesthetic Resources Biological Resources Cultural Resources Traffic and Circulation Air Quality Greenhouse Gas Emissions Energy Resources Noise and Vibration Hazards and Hazardous Materials Hydrology and Water Quality Geology, Soils, and Seismicity Public Services Recreation Utilities Service Systems Water Supply Copies of the Draft EIR and supporting technical reports were made available at the Community Development Department's public counter at City Hall, on the City's website, and at the La Habra Branch of the Orange County Library system. The City received 141 comments on the Draft EIR from state and local agencies, tribal authorities, interest groups, and the public. The City subsequently determined that significant new information required revisions to portions of the Draft EIR. The City circulated a subsequent "Partially Recirculated Draft EIR" for a 57-day review period beginning on November 22, 2019 and ending on January 17, 2020. Upon completion of the review period for the Partially Recirculated Draft EIR, the City of La Habra prepared responses to written comments that were received on the Draft EIR during the initial public review period, as well as written comments received during the recirculation period that related to the revised and recirculated portions of the Partially Recirculated Draft EIR. The Final Draft EIR including revised technical studies, and responses to comments were made available to the public for review on July 20, 2020 (see Attachment - Final EIR Volumes 1, 2, & 3).]
RIGHT.WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE BEGIN, LET ME GET A CADENCE.
I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THIS BY PROPERTY, THE JOYS, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE CITY'S RETAINED THE FIRM OF RICHARD'S WASAGA SEAN, MR. CRAIG STILLS HERE THIS EVENING AND WILL REPRESENT THE CITY'S INTEREST TO THIS MATTER.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT MATTERS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN YEARS, THERE ARE CLEARLY ORGANIZED GROUPS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.
I RESPECT BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER'S RIGHTS TO SEEK COUNCIL'S ACTION.
AND THE CITIZENS GROUP WHO HAVE VOICED THEIR OPPOSITION, BOTH SIDES ARE ENTITLED TO A FAIR AND UNBIASED HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE COUNCIL FAIRLY WITHOUT CONFLICT DECIDING THE ISSUES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE CONSIDERED MY PERSONAL EMPLOYMENT SITUATION AND BELIEVE THAT I SHOULD RECRUIT MYSELF SO THAT MY EMPLOYMENT AND PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP, UH, COULD NOT BE INTERPRETED OR PERCEIVED AS ME HAVING A CONFLICT OR BIAS IN THIS SITUATION.
I'VE HAD A LONG PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A PROPERTY OWNERS AND MY EMPLOYER HAS HAD BUSINESS INTERESTS WITH THE LATE ABRAHAM CHUNG AND THE QUAN FAMILY WHO ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE FAMILY.
WHILE TECHNICALLY I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ARGUE, I HAVE NO CONFLICT.
I CLEARLY BELIEVE THE PERCEPTION OF A CONFLICT AND, AND MY INTEREST IN BEING SURE ALL PARTIES FEEL THIS COUNCIL IS PROVIDING A FAIR HEARING.
I MUST RECRUIT MYSELF AND WISH ALL PARTIES.
UH, WE RECEIVED A CORRESPONDENCE THIS LAST WEEK, UH, QUESTIONING MY PARTICIPATION IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I COME INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING IMPARTIAL AND WE'LL KEEP AN OPEN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS HEARING.
ANYTHING ELSE, TIM? NO, I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY LATER.
SO PUBLIC COMMENTS THERE'LL BE UNLIMITED PER INDIVIDUAL AND THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF, NON REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE.
ANYONE WHO BECOMES ABUSIVE OR DISPLAYS INAPPROPRIATE PUBLIC BEHAVIOR WILL BE TOLD TO STOP SPEAKING AND LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER PURSUANT TO ESTABLISH POLICY.
THE MEETING WILL CONCLUDE AT 10:30 PM CURFEW UNLESS THE MEETING IS EXTENDED BY THE MAYOR.
ANY BUSINESS NOT COMPLETED BY THIS TIME WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
IF AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BECOMES NECESSARY, THE CITY COUNCIL INTENDS TO CONTINUE THE MEETING TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING TIME AND BE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE HEALTH BREAKS AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION AND RECESS FOR A SHORT PERIOD.
FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY, THE STAFF WILL SUMMARIZE THE NUMBER OF PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED SINCE 5:00 PM, WHICH HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AT THE DAYS OF THE RECORD.
THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL AFTER WHICH WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC, HEARING THE CITY COUNCIL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE DIRECTIONS TO STAFF ACCORDINGLY.
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ADD THAT FOR EVERYONE WATCHING AND OUR VIEWERS.THIS IS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR FIVE YEARS TO PROCESS.
I PERSONALLY LISTENED TO EVERY MINUTE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARINGS.
I HAVE PERSONALLY READ THE EIR, ALL THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS AND THE THOUSANDS OF LETTERS WE HAVE GOTTEN FOR AND AGAINST.
SO I'D URGE YOU, PLEASE PARTICIPATE, STATE YOUR CASE.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN DO THIS AND TRY NOT TO BE REDUNDANT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS THROUGH WE'RE HERE UNTIL WE GET THROUGH IT.
SO HAVING SAID THAT WE ARE HERE FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED RANCHO, THE HARBOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT 1400 SOUTH LAHABRA HILLS DRIVE TO INCLUDE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 1801 TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM OPEN SPACE TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, ONE FOR PLANNING AREA ONE 15, THE 245 UNITS PER ACRE, LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, ZERO TO EIGHT UNITS, AN ACRE FOR PLANNING AREAS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
AND TO MIXED USE ONE FOR PLANNING AREA FIVE OF THE RANCH, A LAGER SPECIFIC PLAN, THE ADOPTION OF THE RANCH LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT TO NUMBER THREE TO THE AMENDMENT.
NUMBER THREE TO THE LOBBY HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN ZONE CHANGE 1801 FROM LAHABRA HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN TO RANCH, A LABA SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE AREA OCCUPY THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE DESIGN REVIEW 18 DASH OH ONE THROUGH 1805 FOR RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN AREAS.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX, AND SEVEN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, 18 DASH ZERO ONE FOR THE RANCHO LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN AND AN APPEAL OF THE DENIAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE TRACK MAP ONE SEVEN EIGHT FOUR, FIVE.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE MR. ROYER, AMAZON FOR HIS STAFF REPORT.
COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME A LITTLE? IT MIGHT SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT.
I'M NOT GOOD WITH MASKS, SO I'LL HAVE TO TALK LOUDER, I GUESS.
SO THE REPORT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS BASICALLY THE SAME REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT MODIFIED SLIGHTLY TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP DURING, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHERE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO AS A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE HAD THE, UM, THIS IS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CURRENT LAHABRA HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1992.
AND THE DEVELOPER WAS PACIFIC COAST HOMES, WHICH WAS A DIVISION OF CHEVRON.
UM, SO WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, OKAY, SO WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT A PARK.
SO THIS IS THIS THE
THIS PIECE HERE IS OPEN SPACE.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE RESERVOIR, THE FIRE STATION AND THE, AND JUST THE OPEN SPACE AREA AROUND THAT AREA.
THAT LITTLE PIECE, THERE IS 1.3 ACRES AND IT'S WAS AN INTERACTIVE NATURE, UM, AREA THAT WAS SET UP WHEN IT HAD SOME KIOSKS IN THERE WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF THE FLORA AND FAUNA IN THE AREA.
UM, BECAUSE THIS PLAN, THE BOUNDARY AT THE BOTTOM WAS NOT A STRAIGHT LINE.
IT CURVED AND FOLLOWED THE CREST OF THE HILL.
AND THERE WAS ORIGINALLY TALKS BETWEEN THE CITY OF LA HARBOR AND FULLERTON ABOUT MODIFYING THE CITY LIMIT LINE TO MATCH THAT, UM, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO THIS AREA GOT REDUCED BY, BY ABOUT HALF THE SIZE.
AND THEN LAST, WE HAVE THIS PIECE IN HERE, WHICH AGAIN IS JUST OPEN SPACE.
IT DOES HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM IN IT.
UM, BUT IT'S BEEN CLOSED BY THE CITY DUE TO SAFETY CONCERNS SINCE, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ALSO NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL SPECIFIC PLAN THIS WAS ADDED IN AFTERWARDS.
SO THERE'S AN APPROXIMATELY 36 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THAT WAS CREATED AS PART OF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN.
SO THIS FIRST SECTION OVER HERE WAS THE FIRST SECTION DEVELOPED, AND THAT WAS BY A COMPANY CALLED GRACE STONE HOMES.
THE NEXT SECTION IN HERE WERE DONE BY A COMPANY CALLED CHRISTOPHER HOMES.
AND THEN THIS LAST LITTLE PIECE IN HERE WAS DONE BY LINDAR.
UM, THIS PIECE WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AS ONGOING AS THE PLAN HAS BEEN AMENDED OVER TIME, IT WAS AMENDED IN THE MULTIFAMILY
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WAS TAKEN OUT AND THE SINGLE FAMILY WAS PUTTING PUT IN ITS PLACE.SO ALTOGETHER YOU HAVE ABOUT 556 HOMES REPRESENTED IN THESE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE 151 ACRES OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, SO THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN NOW.
SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THEIR PROPOSED LAND USE.
THE YELLOW AREAS REPRESENT WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE.
THE GREEN REPRESENTS THE OPEN SPACE.
SO ALONG SOUTHERN EDGE, BOTTOM EDGE OF THAT MAP IS THE SLOPES THEMSELVES AT WEST RIDGE AND THE BIG GREEN AREA IN THE MIDDLE WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING A PARK IS FOR REFERENCE CALLS 17 AND 18 OF THE GOLF COURSE CURRENTLY ON THE AREA OFF TO THE BROWN ON, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE IS DESIGNATED AS MULTIFAMILY AND THE LITTLE HATCHED AREA ISN'T DESIGNATED FOR MIXED JUICE, WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.
AND IN THE PLAN THAT THE DEVELOPER MOVED FORWARD WITH THEY'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT, THEIR PREFERENCE, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE THING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS HOW THE, THE FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, BREAK OUT.
AND THE IMPORTANT THING ON THIS SLIDE IS THERE, TALK ABOUT PRESS PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC AND ENTRANCES INTO THE PROJECT ITSELF.
SO THE BIG BLUE STARS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP ARE THE ENTRANCES INTO THE, EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THE STARTING ON THE LEFT AND WORKING TO THE RIGHT, JUST WHEN YOU GET PAST THAT, WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY SECTION IS DOWN THERE IN THE GRAY THERE, IT WOULD BE A GATED TO GET INTO THE YELLOW AREA, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH THEN HAS A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, THE BLUE AREA, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE FROM LAHABRA HILLS DRIVE AND DOES NOT CONNECT THROUGH TO ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS CENTER.
AND THE ONE IN ORANGE IS ACCESSIBLE OFF OF IDAHO, NEAR SANDALWOOD.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT CONNECTED THROUGH TO ANY OF THE OTHER AREAS IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN OTHER THAN BY WALKING TRAILS.
SO PLANNING AREA ONE HAS A HUNDRED, WHICH IS THE GRAY AREA HAS 125 HAS 125 UNITS IN IT.
THE BLUE ONE HAS 77 AND THE ORANGE ONE HAS 82.
SO THIS IS PLANNING AREA ONE AND FIVE SHOWN TOGETHER.
SO THE SHADED AREA IS THE AREA THAT COULD POTENTIALLY STILL BE COMMERCIAL IF THE PLAN WAS APPROVED.
BUT AGAIN, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS, IS FOR THE HOUSE.
SO THIS IS ARCHITECTURALLY, UM, SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT CENTER WOULD LOOK LIKE IT SINCE THEY'RE MULTIFAMILY ATTACHED, THERE, THERE ARE BUILDINGS OF MANY OF DIFFERENT SIZES, UM, RANGING FROM, UH, UH, DUPLEX UP TO A SIX UNITS IN A, IN A PROJECT.
UM, OOPS, I WENT THE WRONG WAY.
AND THAT IN THAT AREA, THIS IS ABOUT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RECREATIONAL FACILITY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE POOL AND A TOT LOT AND SOME VARIOUS DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BARBECUE AREAS.
SO THIS IS PLANNING AREA TWO, WHICH AS I NOTED BEFORE, HAS ABOUT 118 UNITS IN IT.
AND AGAIN, EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAS THREE DIFFERENT BASIC UNIT TYPES WITH THREE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
SO THROUGH MIXING AND MATCHING EACH, EACH NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE NINE DIFFERENT HOUSING PLANS IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IN THE SPACE THROUGHOUT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME, RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND AGAIN, SO THIS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THIS PLANNING AREA, AND THIS IS THEIR RECREATION AREA, WHICH IS ABOUT FIVE, 6,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD BE A POOL.
AND IT'S LOCATED RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMING IN UP OFF OF BEACH BOULEVARD.
SO PLANNING AREA THREE SAME BASIC THING, NINE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UM, AGAIN, THE ENTRANCE TO THIS AREA IS THERE, UH, IT'S THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.
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NO THROUGH TRAFFIC.SO ON THE VERY FAR RIGHT, IS THEIR RECREATION AREA.
AND THIS RECREATION AREA IS SHARED WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S CONNECTED THERE BY THE, WITH THE TRAILS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN IN EACH I SHOULD BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
EACH OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS AND AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THE HOMES GET BIGGER.
SO THIS, THIS REPRESENTS THE BIGGEST, MOST EXPENSIVE HOMES IN, IN THE PROJECT.
AND THESE ARE SORRY, APPROXIMATELY THREE, 3,700 SQUARE FEET FOR THE, FOR THE LARGEST UNIT IN THIS, IN THIS AREA.
AND AGAIN, SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE.
SO THIS IS PLANNING AREAS SIX, WHICH AGAIN, IS CURRENTLY HOLES 17 AND 18 OF THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, AND THEN THE CLUBHOUSE AND PARKING LOT.
SO THE, THE PLANT, THE APPLICANT IS PROBABLY GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME GIVING YOU THE DETAILS OF THIS PLAN, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S, UM, OPEN SPACES AND PICNIC AREAS.
AND, BUT DOES HAVE SOME CHILDREN'S PLAY STRUCTURES AND A SPLASH PAD AND SOME OTHER, UM, MINOR RECREATION FACILITIES.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE REFURBISHING OF THE, OF THE CLUBHOUSE IN, INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE RENDERINGS, UH, ENVISIONING WHAT, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO THE REQUESTED ACTIONS THAT THE MAYOR WENT THROUGH WAS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, THE AMENDMENT TO THE LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN TO TAKE, TAKE THIS AREA OUT OF IT.
UH, THE ZONE CHANGE TO CREATE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN ZONE, THE ADOPTION OF THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REVIEWS OF THE DIFFERENT PLANNING AREAS AND ANTI-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE APPEAL OF THE, UH, THE MAP, WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED.
TYPICALLY THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T SEE TENTATIVE MAPS.
UM, THE COUNCIL SEES FINAL MAPS.
SO THIS, AGAIN, THIS WAS ITEM WAS APPEALED TO THE COUNCIL.
SO AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS PREPARED FOR THIS PROJECT.
AS WE ALL KNOW,
UM, WE HAD, HE DID, EXCUSE ME, I NEED TO CHECK MY NOTES TO GIVE YOU SOME DATES.
UM, BUT THE FIRST, THE FIRST DIR WENT OUT IN 2018 BASIC GENERALLY.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT DOCUMENT.
SO WE SPENT TIME RESPONDING TO THOSE COMMENTS.
AND THEN IN 2000, UH, EIGHT, LATE 18, AFTER ALL THE COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, AN REVISED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS PREPARED.
UH, THE NEW INFORMATION EDIT, INCLUDED MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT DESIGN, UM, WHICH WAS NEW BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE SURVEY, AN UPDATED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UPDATED AIR QUALITY AND GREENHOUSE ENERGY AND NOISE ANALYSIS.
AND SO THIS PARTIALLY RESEARCH-RELATED EIR WITH THIS NEW INFORMATION WAS CIRCULATED IN NOVEMBER OF 2019 WITH THE REVIEW PERIOD ENDING IN JANUARY UPON COMPLETION.
UM, THE RESPONSES, THE ADDITIONAL DRAFT WAS RE PREPARED.
AND THIS WAS POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON JULY 20, 2020.
AND BEN HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW SINCE, SINCE THAT TIME.
SO WHAT THE DETERMINATION IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT
SO THIS, THESE ARE IN THE AREAS OF LAND USE PLANNING, POPULATION AND HOUSING ATHETIC EX TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, AIR QUALITY, AND GREENHOUSE GASES.
AND THEN LASTLY, NOISE SPECIFIC UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS DOES NOT MEAN THAT A PROJECT CAN NOT BE APPROVED, WHAT IT DOES.
IT EIRS DO NOT MAKE JUDGMENTS ABOUT A PROJECT.
THEY LOOK AT THE, THEY LOOK AT THE FACTS AND TO IDENTIFY THE FACTUAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UM, WHETHER OR NOT TO CHANGE OR NOT CHANGE IS AS A DECISION OF THE COUNCIL.
AFTER THEY'VE REVIEWED ALL THE INFORMATION, A PROJECT MAY BRING BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT OUTWEIGH THE IMPACTS,
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AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO WEIGH THE PROS AND THE CONS.AND AGAIN, JUST HAVING UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN A PROJECT CAN'T BE APPROVED.
SO W SO THE FIRST THING, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, AS THE J AS THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, NONE OF THE OTHER ACTIONS CAN REALLY BE CONSIDERED OR, OR APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
SO, SO IT'S NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED IT'S NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE DEGENERATE GENERAL PLANNING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO THE, TO THE DESIGNATIONS.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY TO THE LOW DENSITY FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, A MULTIFAMILY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MIXED JUICE FOR AREA FIVE AREAS, SIX AND SEVEN DON'T NEED ANY CHANGES.
AREA SIX IS THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE CONSERVATION TRAIL AREAS, AND SEVEN ARE THE WEST RIDGE SLOPES THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.
SO FOR GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY, THE GENERAL PLAN 2035 DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT FOR THIS SITE.
HOWEVER, GENERAL PLANS MAY BE AMENDED, PERIODICALLY AND UPDATED TO RESPOND TO CHANGING COMMUNITY NEEDS THE VISION STATEMENT IN THE GENERAL PLAN, DISCUSSES HOW OUR COMMUNITY WILL GROW AT AN ENVISIONS, HOW WE WILL DO THIS GROWTH AND KEEP BALANCED WITHIN THE CITY, UM, PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE PLACES TO WORK, LIVE AND RECREATE.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD RESULT IN ACHIEVING THE CITY'S GOALS OF PROVIDING AT LEAST 2.5 ACRES OF PUBLIC PARK PER THOUSAND.
CURRENTLY THE CITY HAS 2.29, UM, AND THIS WOULD INCREASE IT TO 2.71.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT PER SE.
THIS IS A GENERAL PLAN GOAL ISSUES TO CONSIDER INCLUDE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN THE ELIMINATION OF THE GOLF COURSE.
BUT WHEN IN TURN WOULD PROVIDE A NEW PUBLIC PARK TRAILS AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE ELIMINATION WOULD MEAN LOSS OF PRIVATELY HELD OPEN RECREATIONAL SPACE.
THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD, WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE JANE ADJACENT WESTBRIDGE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY MARKETED AS, AS A GOLF COMMUNITY WITH MANY OF THE NAMES OF THE STREETS BEING EITHER AFTER GOLF COURSES OR PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS AND THE PROJECT, BUT WOULD NOT CREATE ANY DISLIKED JOINTED LAND USES, WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING GENERAL PLAN, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS THE LAND USE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND IT.
AND IN THIS CASE, IT IS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF, OF SIMILAR DENSITIES AND, AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD, WOULD, AGAIN, IS A LOW DENSITY SUBURBAN TYPE SETTING IS AS TO OPPOSE TO HIGH DENSITY, WHICH HAS BEEN CHARACTERIZED BY, UH, MANY OF THE PIECES THAT HAVE GONE OUT IN THE MAIL.
SO THE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS ARE, AGAIN, THE AMENDMENT TO THE LA HARBOR HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN, THE ZONE CHANGE, THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN, THE DESIGN REVIEWS, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE MAP.
AND SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN, IT INCLUDES A BOUNDARY CHANGE TO REMOVE THE GOLF COURSE FROM, FROM THE PLAN AREA.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE MAX MAP AND TEXT AMENDMENTS WITHIN THE PLAN TO MAKE IT INTERNALLY CONSISTENT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING THE VACATION OF IT, AN EXISTING DEED RESTRICTION OF OVER APPROXIMATELY 11.4, TWO ACRES OF CONSERVATION AREA DISTRIBUTED IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE GOLF COURSE, THE COUNCIL CANNOT REMOVE THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THEY MUST BE REMOVED BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE.
SO IF THE COUNCIL WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO GO TO CALIFORNIA, FISH AND WILDLIFE AND NEGOTIATE THE REMOVAL OF THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO THE ZONE, THE ZONE CHANGE PURSUANT TO THE GENERAL PLAN AND STATE LAWS, GENERAL PLAN, AND THE ZONING MUST BE CONSISTENT.
THEREFORE, IF THE CITY APPROVES THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, THEN YOU, YOU MUST APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE'D HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
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ASPECTS OF THE ZONE CHANGE.YOU WOULD REMOVE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR REPLACE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR, A SPECIFIC PLAN IN THE ZONE.
THAT'S CURRENTLY THE LA HARBOR HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN.
IF APPROVED THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WAS, WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LAND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE ALREADY POINTED OUT.
SO THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLANS, SO THE GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS CITIES TO CREATE SPECIFIC PLANS AS A METHOD OF IMPLEMENTING YOUR GENERAL PLAN.
SO SPECIFIC PLANS HAVE TO RE PROVIDE THE DISTRIBUTION LOCATION OF THE USES AND THE LANDS WITHIN THE AREA, THE PRO'S DISTRIBUTION LOCATION OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, SEWAGE, ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THE STANDARDS AND CRITERIA BY WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BUILT, WHICH IS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GUIDELINES AND PLANNING ISSUES.
AND THEN A PROGRAM OF HOW THE PLAN IS GOING TO GET IMPLEMENTED.
IF APPROVED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN WILL COMPLY WITH THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE.
SO THE DESIGN REVIEWS, THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPENT PLANS HAS EIGHT SECTIONS OR CHAPTERS.
CHAPTER SEVEN IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN A WHICH ESTABLISHES THE PROCESS OF HOW THESE GET REVIEWED.
UM, CHAPTER 18.68 IS DESIGN REVIEW OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE PLANS ARE PROCESSED.
AND THEN SECTION FIVE, WHICH IS THE, DOES THE GUIDELINES SET UP THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THE, FOR THE UNITS AND THEMSELVES, THE PROPOSED DWELLINGS COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS ESTABLISHED IN SECTION FIVE.
SO THE VEST, THE VESTING TENTATIVE MAP.
SO THIS HAS, IT SAYS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TASKED WITH APPROVING TENTATIVE MAPS, AS I POINTED OUT ALREADY.
AND THAT'S PURSUANT TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE THAT SAID SETS FINDINGS ON HOW YOU, HOW YOU DO THAT.
THE CULLEN PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGNED THE REQUEST FOR THE MAP SINCE THEY FOUND THAT IT COULD NOT MAKE ALL OF THE FINDINGS.
THE APPLICANT HAS APPEALED THAT DECISION TO THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE FINDINGS CAN ONLY BE MADE IF THE GENERAL PLAN MINT AND ZONE CHANGE ARE APPROVED.
SO THE D THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A, IS A LEGAL BINDING CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, WHICH SETS UP THE MAIN DEAL POINTS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND WHAT THE CITY GETS.
AND ONCE THE DEVELOPER GETS, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND AND IN ABOUT 29 ACRES, AND THE VA REHABBING THE COMMUNITY OR THE GOLF COURSE CLUBHOUSE INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER, THEY'VE ALSO PROPOSED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PARK WITH TRAILS, A CASH, A CASH PAYMENT OF $1.5 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY BENEFIT AT, AT THIS COUNCIL'S DISCRETION AND THE PAYMENT OF $1 MILLION TOWARDS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION TO BE USED IN THE CITY FOR FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
SINCE, UM, THIS REPORT AND SLIDE WAS PREPARED, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A MODIFIED, UM, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE CITY'S FORM A COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A, UH, A SEPARATE DISCRETIONARY APPROVAL PROCESS IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE APPROVED.
SO AT, AT, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, LOOK, WE HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS STARTED ON SEPTEMBER THE 14TH.
IT CONTINUED, UM, THROUGH THE 15TH AND 16TH AND 17TH.
AND DURING THAT TIME, 76 INDIVIDUALS ADDRESSED THE COMMISSION, UM, 15 SPOKEN FAVOR AND 61 IN OPPOSITION.
IN ADDITION TO THAT INSERT ORAL TESTIMONY, 10,000, OVER 10,000 DOCUMENTS, WRITTEN COMMENT, LETTERS, EMAILS, ET CETERA, HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING FROM, FROM THE PERIOD FROM JULY 24TH, TILL ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK ON THE SEPTEMBER, THE 15TH,
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THOSE COMMENTS, AGAIN, THE COMMISSION SAW ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND READ THEM ALL AND TOOK THAT INTO PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATION IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS.THE LETTERS THAT WERE RECEIVED, WE IN SUPPORT WERE ABOUT 6,048 THAT WERE LAHABRA RESIDENTS OF 525 THAT WERE NON-LABOR RESIDENTS.
UM, AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT 929 SIGNATURES THAT WERE UNREADABLE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY LIVED, UM, LETTERS AND LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
WE RECEIVED, UH, 2052 FROM LAHABRA RESIDENTS AND 177 FROM NON-LAB RESIDENTS SINCE THAT TIME.
AND BEFORE TONIGHT, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 8,480 PLUS LETTERS HAD BEEN RECEIVED AS OF THURSDAY AFTERNOON WHEN WE POSTED THE AGENDA.
AND THAT NUMBER, UM, A LITTLE OVER 5,000 OF MORE FOUR IN 3000 WERE OPPOSED.
AND I BELIEVE I DIDN'T COUNT THEM, BUT I BELIEVE WE GOT ANOTHER A HUNDRED OR SO EMAILS TO TODAY, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
SO AS A RESULT OF THE NUMBERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK, THE HEARING WAS CONTINUED.
AS I MENTIONED, FOR, FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AND THE COMMISSION DIRECTED THE STAFF TO, TO BRING BACK DRAFT RESOLUTIONS FOR DENIAL OF ALL THE ACTIONS AND DENIED THE VESTING CANDIDATE MAP.
UM, THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION INACTION WAS ADJOURN ON SEPTEMBER THE 17TH.
SO WHEN, WHEN THEY RETURNED, THEY, THEY VOTED ON THE RESOLUTIONS THAT HAD BEEN PREPARED AND THEY VOTED FOR ONE TO DENY THE PROJECT AND FIVE VOTE TO DENY THE MAP ON SEPTEMBER THE 23RD, THE APPLICANT APPEALED THE COMMISSION'S DECISION ON THE VESTING MAP, AND THUS IT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
SO IT TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES, BUT HERE'S KIND OF A LOOK AT THE DECISION TREE OF HOW THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER IT.
SO THE FIRST BOX OVER ON THE LEFT IS, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND THEN, THEN YOU HAVE THE, KIND OF THE DIAGRAM OF WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S YES, AND WHAT'S HAPPENS, IS IT KNOWS IF YOU WORK THROUGH ALL THROUGH ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNCIL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER ALL THE DOCUMENT EVIDENCE AND WRITTEN AND ORAL TESTIMONY AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES TO APPROVE OR DENY THE, THE ACTIONS THAT WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO OFFER AT THIS POINT.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
WELL, I HAVE SOME THAT I'LL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, JOSE, YOU HAD JUST ONE ROLE, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, THAT THERE WAS A MODIFICATION TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THAT'LL BE, THE DEVELOPER WILL GO OVER THAT WITH US.
THE GIST OF IT IS AS THEY'VE OFFERED UP THE CHANGE, THE LANGUAGE TO CHANGE THE MIX OF THE NUMBERS SO THAT THE, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO CONSIDER LESS MONEY SPENT ON PART, BUT MORE MONEY SPENT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF IT, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL LET THEM GO OVER THE DETAILS OF IT.
THAT'S NOT REALLY MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
THANK YOU, MR. RAY, TIM, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, ROSE I'M THE ONLY ONE ASKED YOU QUESTIONS ROY'S THEN OTHER THAN JOSE'S.
SO SOME OF THESE, THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE TO ASK, BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF INTERESTING.
SO THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT, I WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WOULD BE DECIDED AT A LATER DATE, BECAUSE WHAT IF AT A LATER DATE IT'S NOT APPROVED? CAN YOU RUN THROUGH ME WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE IF THE WERE APPROVED, BUT THEN A FUTURE COUNCIL DID NOT APPROVE THAT CFD.
WELL, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS, THAT'S BY LAW, THAT'S A SEPARATE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND YOU JUST LIKE YOU WOULD FOR ANY TYPE OF AN ELECTION.
SO THE PROJECT WOULD BE CONDITIONED IF YOU APPROVED IT, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT COULD ACTUALLY OCCUR.
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THEN ALL THOSE DIRECT COSTS WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER AND WOULD BE ADDED INTO THE PRICE OF THE HOUSES.BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WANT A MORE DETAILED, TECHNICAL, LEGAL EXPLANATION, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO MR. STEEL AT THIS POINT, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT DID NOT PASS, WHO WOULD WIND UP PICKING UP THOSE DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
AND YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER YES.
WHICH WOULD CHANGE THEIR NUMBERS.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED HERE, CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA FISH, AND WILDLIFE MUST VACATE ITS EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED.
THE REPORT STATES, I QUOTE NO PERMITTING OR CONSTRUCTION ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
DOES THAT INCLUDE CLEARING GRADING, ET CETERA, CAN BE DONE UNTIL DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE VACATED.
THEY CAN'T DISTURB ANY OF, ANY OF THE LAND UNTIL THAT, THAT THE PLAN OF ACTION THAT'S ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE EIR OF HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING REQUIRED TO REPLACE IT.
AND THAT THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE OF HOW IT GETS REPLACED.
THEN I WAS THINKING, WELL, WHY IS THIS NOT BEEN RESOLVED BEFORE THIS CONSIDERATION, THIS PROJECT IS DONE BY US? BECAUSE AGAIN, WHAT'S THE EFFECT OF THE PROJECT.
IF GOING FORWARD, THEY DON'T GET THAT VACATED.
I THINK THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS IN THERE.
THE FIRST ONE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A LEGAL PARTY TO THE DEED RESTRICTION THAT THAT'S BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FISH AND WILDLIFE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY BARGAINING RIGHTS TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT.
THAT'S A PRIVATE, PRIVATE AGREEMENT.
AND GENERALLY, UM, FISH AND WILDLIFE, YOU KNOW, IS NOT GOING TO START NEGOTIATIONS ON THAT.
IF THERE'S NOT AN ACTUAL PROJECT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
SO I GUESS IT'S THE APPLICANT'S ISSUE WITH THE REGARDS TO THE FISH AND GAME AND IT'S THEIR PROBLEM EFFICIENT GAME.
CAN I COME TO THE SOLUTION WITH THEM? ABSOLUTELY.
THEY'RE REQUIRED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT TO WORK OUT THAT AGREEMENT WITH, WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE BEFORE ANYTHING CAN PROCEED ON THE PROJECT.
SO WITH THE CFD ISSUES AND THE FISHING WILDLIFE ISSUES THAT COULD DRIVE UP THE COST AND CREATE SOME PROBLEMS, TIMING WISE FOR THEM.
THE PROJECT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE SKAGGS GOAL IS TO HAVE HIGHER DENSITIES AND LESS RELIANCE ON SINGLE OCCUPANT CATEGORIES.
IS THERE A GENERAL DENSITY GOAL PER ACRE THAT SCAG WANTS? AND IS IT JUST ONE NUMBER OR DOES IT GO BY LOW INCOME, HIGH INCOME? SO SCAG IS A REGIONAL AGENCY, RIGHT? AND SO THEY, THEY SET POLICIES AND GOALS THAT ENCOURAGE THE CITIES TO COMPLY WITH THEM.
IT'S, IT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL VISUAL CITY TO DETERMINE HOW THAT WORKS IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND WHAT DENSITIES THEY WANT AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE RENA NUMBERS, THEY GIVE US THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY WE HAVE TO HAVE.
AND THEN W YOU KNOW, WE GET TO WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC AND HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DECIDE WHERE IN THE CITY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD NEED SOME OF OUR AND NUMBERS.
IF THIS PROJECT WERE APPROVED, QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF IS IF IT IS NOT APPROVED, SAY THE 803 UNITS IS THE ACCURATE NUMBER.
CAN THE CITY ACHIEVE THAT OVER TIME IN THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE ALWAYS SPEAK OF BEING 95% DEVELOPED.
IS THERE ENOUGH INFILL, MULTI ZONE USES VACANT SPACE THAT THE STAFF FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT THEY IN TIME CAN MEET THOSE ARENAS WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT.
SO THAT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING THE HOUSING ELEMENT FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, WHICH WE HAVE EIGHT YEARS TO MEET THOSE NUMBERS.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A SERIES OF, OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND HEARINGS, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH WHERE IN THE CITY POTENTIAL LOCATIONS ARE FOR THOSE UNITS AND WHETHER WE CAN MEET IT OR NOT WITH OUR CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATIONS OR WHETHER WE HAVE TO DO SOME REZONING IN ORDER TO MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL AT THIS TIME, I CAN'T ANSWER WHETHER WE CAN DO IT OR NOT.
I THINK GENERALLY WE HAVE ENOUGH VACANT PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED MULTIPLE FAMILY THAT ARE UNDERDEVELOPED.
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THE CAPACITY FOR IT EXISTS WITHIN OUR CITY FOR THE MOST PART ALREADY, I BELIEVE.BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE TILL WE FINISH ALL THE SURVEYS.
SO WE ADOPTED THE 20, 35 PLAN ADOPTED 2014.
SO SINCE THERE, AND WE HAVE AN AMENDED IT, AND THAT'S THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? WE'VE DONE SOME MINOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS TO SOME TEXTS, SOME POLICY LEVEL THINGS HERE AND THERE, BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY, UH, MAJOR LAND USE CHANGES.
WE JUST RECENTLY DID FOR ELECTRIC AVENUE.
WE DID A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND CHANGE THAT ONE PARCEL FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, SO THAT IT MATCHED UP WITH THE REST OF THAT BLOCK FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON THE GENERAL PLAN, I WANTED TO KIND OF REITERATE, AND AGAIN, THE, THE STAFF DID NOT APPROACH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO PUSH FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT NOR PUSHING FOR A CHANGE IN THE LAST LAND USE DESIGNATION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR THE CHANGE PROJECT AND STAFF WAS REQUIRED TO PROCESS THE APPLICATION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ONE OF THE ISSUES IN HERE IS HOW THEY CAME ABOUT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THE VALUE OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF THE LAND GIVEN TO THE CITY I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW WAS THAT VALUE DETERMINED WAS THE VALUE OF THE LAND DETERMINED BY AS IF IT WOULD BE BUILT WITH HOUSES? ARE, WAS IT VALUED AS A GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, OR WAS IT VALUED AS JUST BARE LAND? I COULD BE A BIG, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO ANDREW BECAUSE HE'S MORE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.
AND YOU SEE WHY I ASKED THAT BECAUSE THEY SAY THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT OF $40 MILLION.
WELL, 20 MILLION OF THAT I THINK IS THAT AT PARK ACREAGE.
SO I'M CURIOUS HOW HARD A NUMBER THAT IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, BIMAH MAYOR BEAMISH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ANDREW HO DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE, THE COST OF THE LAND OR THE, THE, THE PRICE NEGOTIATED FOR THE PARKLAND WAS DETERMINED BASED ON, UH, THE, THE POTENTIAL OF, OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
IF THE PARK LAND AREA WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS HOUSING, UH, WHAT THE VALUE OF THAT WOULD BE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF PARKLAND TO US AND WHEN IT'S A PARK, UH, GENERALLY, UM, I THINK THAT THE VALUE OF, OF OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT, UM, KIND OF REFERENCED THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S AROUND $40,000 PER ACRE.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE US AN, A TOTAL VALUE OF WHAT, AND IN REFERENCING THE STAFF REPORT, WE VALUED THE PARK AT ABOUT A 5.2 MILLION 5.2 MILLION.
SO IT'S BASICALLY, THEY'RE GIVEN UP A VALUE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE GETTING THIS OTHER VALUE ONCE WE HAVE IT.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WITH REGARDS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO THE D AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT WILL ADDRESS THIS AND MAYBE TELL IT THEY WOULD.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TO BE AS IT IS JUST GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE MONEY OR UL OR ASSETS FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER, BUT THE 40 MILLION STAYS AT THAT NUMBER.
SO WE'RE MOVING WITHIN THE 40 MILLION, CORRECT.
ADDITIONAL MONEY TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WHATEVER, IT'S ALL WITHIN THAT 40 CORRECT.
UH, WHEN WE RECEIVED THE, UH, UH, REVISED LANGUAGE FROM THE APPLICANT LAST WEEK, UH, UH, A QUICK REVIEW OF THE LANGUAGE, UH, APPEARS THAT THEY WANTED TO CREATE FLEXIBILITY IN THE AGREEMENT, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED TO, UH, PROVIDE A LARGER, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION.
UM, AND SO THE REVISIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF, TO, UH, REDUCE VARIOUS AMENITIES, UH, OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE PARK OR COMMUNITY CENTER.
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UM, IF THEY WANTED TO INCREASE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION.I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS LEFT.
SO ROY MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO THE PARK AND THAT THE CITY'S GOAL OF PROVIDING 2.5 ACRES OF PUBLIC PARK FOR 1000 RESIDENTS AT CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 2.29 WITH THE GOAL AT 2.5, THE PROJECT WOULD GET US TO 2.7.
ONE QUESTION I HAD IS BLAKE PARK OR THE BIG PARK AT IDAHO AND LAMBERT INCLUDED IN PART OF THAT 2.29, OR IS THAT NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL PARK YET? IT IS INCLUDED.
THEN, UH, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN HAZARDOUS AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
SO THE PROJECT SITE WAS USED FOR OIL PRODUCTION, THE 1900 TO 1995.
SO THERE'S 23 OIL WELLS WERE FORMERLY IN THE PROJECT AREA AND HAVE BEEN ABANDONED IN A FIRE CALL AND READING THROUGH THERE THERE'S SEVERAL THAT WILL BE ABANDONED AND RE ABANDONED, AND THERE'LL BE A PROPERTY ON TOP OF THEM.
AND IN THE TERMS THAT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE NEW BUYER.
I WANTED TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE NEW BUYER IS NOTIFIED THAT THERE'S A WELL ON THEIR PROPERTY.
DO THEY GET THE SPECIFIC GPS COORDINATES, IF YOU WILL, OR MEASUREMENTS OF WHERE THAT IS, SHOULD THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY? IS IT UNDER THE HOUSE AND THE YARD? DO YOU GET TO GET THAT PRECISE OR DO WE JUST SAY YOU GOT AN ALL SUMMER ON YOUR PROPERTY? UM, I THINK THOSE DISCLOSURES ARE MADE DURING THE, UH, PURCHASE OF THE NEW HOMES.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT DOES NOT GET THAT SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF WHERE THE FORMER WELL LOCATION WOULD BE.
COULD IT BE, GET, BE GIVEN THAT SPECIFIC? I ASSUME IT COULD CAUSE YOU, THE DEVELOPER SHOULD KNOW WHERE THE WELL IS.
RIGHT? BECAUSE I HEARD A STORY OR ONE OF THE LETTERS THEY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IN A POLL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WERE ON TOP OF AN OIL AND HAD TO MOVE THE POLE.
SO I GOT THAT PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUY A PROPERTY IN CLOSERS AND IOL, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE OIL IS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE WHAT THE APP.
AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS THAT FOR ME, THE CRUDE OIL IMPACTED SOIL.
ONE IS BENEATH THE WESTERN HALF OF THE GOLF COURSE, 220,000 CUBIC FEET OF SOIL AREA TUBE BENEATH THE DRIVING RANGE IS 30,000 CUBIC FEET OF SOIL IN AREA THREE BENEATH THE FAR WESTERN PARSON GOLF COURSE IS 176,000 CUBIC FEET OF SOIL.
SO PROPERTY RECEIVED REGULATORY CLOSURE WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS FIT IN BECAUSE IT MET THE STANDARDS AT THE TIME FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
SO NOW POTENTIALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENT'S REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT THAT THE GRADING AND COMPACTION THAT OCCURRED FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND CREATION OF THE REUSE AREAS WERE NEITHER SUITABLE ARE COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO I UNDERSTANDING IN HERE, AND I'M PRETTY MUCH QUOTING THAT TO MITIGATE 260,000 CUBIC YARDS WOULD BE EXCAVATED AND PLACED IN ONE OF FOUR PREDESIGNATED DETAIL LOCATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STANDARD RELEASE ESTABLISHED BY OCCA AND RWE, UCB SOILS PREVIOUSLY PLACED DURING GOLF COURSE STRUCK KUNZ CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE EXCAVATED DOWN TO BEDROCK AND READ COMPACTED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE BASE FOR PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'M SURE THIS WILL ALL MEET CURRENT STANDARDS, BUT I THOUGHT, OKAY, THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF DIRT HAD THE APPLICANT THOUGHT OF REMOVING THAT DIRT FROM THE SITE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND DISPOSING OF IT AND BRINGING IN CLEAN DIRT.
AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? UM, I, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS THEIR TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS HERE THAT CAN GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, UH, FROM OUR STAFF LEVEL REVIEW OF, OF THE ISSUE.
UM, THE ORANGE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS THE JURISDICTION CHARGE OF REVIEWING THAT PLAN.
UH, THEY'VE APPROVED IT, UH, UH, METHODS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ESSENTIALLY DIG UP THE CONTAMINATED SOIL AND BURIED, UH, DEEPER, UH, COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE, UH, HEALTH REQUIREMENTS, UH, OUTLINED, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, ELIMINATION OF WELLS AND WEALTH, WELL CLOSURES AND STUFF.
THEN AT THIS TIME I'M FINISHED WITH MY QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I GUESS THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION AN HOUR? I THINK SO
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YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS OR SO, AND THAT WAY WE WON'T BREAK IT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF AGAIN, JUST ONE QUESTION AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEVELOPER WHEN THEY PRESENT, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE GRADING IS CONCERNED AND, UH, AND BEARING THE, THE, UH, WHAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THE CONTAMINATED SOIL IS CONCERNED IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE, AS YOU SAY, THE DEVELOPMENT GOES THROUGH, UH, AND, UH, WITH HOMEOWNERS, UH, IN LIABILITY, UH, MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. STEEL.
I'M NOT SURE, UH, IS THE CITY LIABLE FOR ANY POSSIBLE ISSUES, HEALTH ISSUES THAT MAY OCCUR 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.
COUNCILMAN, THE GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES THAT THE CITY IS IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT.
SO ANY OF THOSE HEALTH RISKS ARE GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE SELLER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE ULTIMATE BUYER OF A HOME.
I'LL EVEN FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION.
SO THINKING OF THE OIL, I ASSUME THIS IS BASIC PETROLEUM OIL.
SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH PCBS AND PROCESSED OIL FOR TRANSFORMERS I'D ASSUME OIL WELLS WOULD HAVE HAD TRANSFORMERS THAT I DON'T REMEMBER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH PCVS WAS HER POLY CLARA FLEET CORA? YEAH, NO, THERE WAS HOLLY, CLAIRE AND ALS.
SO IT'S JUST OIL UNPROCESSED, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THE SOIL THAT'S ON THE GOLF COURSE NOW IS SIMILAR BECAUSE THE WHOLE AREA, INCLUDING PARTS OF FULLERTON WAS, WAS ALL PART OF THE CHEVRON OIL COMPANY.
AND SO THE, THE CONTAMINANTS THAT YOU'RE FINDING AT THE GOLF COURSE, OR HAVE ALSO BEEN, UH, IN THE WESTBRIDGE COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND, UH, UH, AS HOME BUILDERS BUILD HOMES, THERE ARE, UH, STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO, TO PROTECT FUTURE HOMEOWNERS.
THEN LASTLY, I WOULD JUST SAY, UH, TO THE PUBLIC, I APPRECIATE STAFF'S FIVE YEARS OF HARD WORK ON THIS.
UH, I THOUGHT THE STAFF REPORT WAS EXCELLENT.
ALL THE MATERIALS THAT I'VE BEEN READING FOR, IT SEEMS LIKE MONTHS HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND HELPED TO LIMIT MY QUESTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE OR SO RECESS AND THEN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
WE'RE BACK IN SESSION, I WILL OPEN IT, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ALL THOSE WHO SPEAK TO PLEASE GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND NOT TO BE REDUNDANT IN THEIR TESTIMONY.
AND I WOULD INVITE AT THIS TIME THE APPLICANT JUST TESTIFY, MR. APPLICANT.
YEAH, MY LIFE OF, OF, UH, NOT BEING LOUD ENOUGH.
SO I KNOW I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT TODAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I AM, UH, JEREMY PARNASS, I'M THE DIVISION PRESIDENT FOR LNR HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UM, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND, THANK YOU, UM, TO YOU MAYOR BEAMISH MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA COUNCIL MEMBER, MAGENTO COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.
THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR EFFORT, UM, FOR THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO THIS PROCESS, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS HAS GONE ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE THAT, UH, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR BEAMISH, UM, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF INFORMATION DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
AND, UM, I, I TRUST THAT YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT.
AND SO THAT WITH, THROUGH THAT THOROUGHNESS, YOU CAN SEE THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN LAMAR AND STAFF, THE PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATE, UH, ASSOCIATES FOR THE CITY, AS WELL AS FOR LENARA.
AND, AND JUST IN, IN SUCH A DETAILED WAY THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ANSWERING MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT, UM, ALL OF THEM.
AND SO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS TECHNICAL AS THEY MAY BE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER IN DETAIL, UH, BECAUSE OUR HOPE IS THAT THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT FACTS.
WE CAN HELP UNDERSTAND WHY RANCHO LAHABRA IS SO GOOD FOR THE CITY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION, A LOT OF MISPERCEPTIONS.
UM, IF YOU WATCHED THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF THAT DISCUSSION, UH, THROUGHOUT.
AND, UM, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH WE'VE CATALOGED QUESTIONS AS BEST WE CAN, WE HAVE BROUGHT SPECIFIC ANSWERS TO STAFF.
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FACTS HAVE BEEN CHECKED BY STAFF, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ANSWERS FOR ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS, UM, TODAY, BUT IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG AND DIFFICULT ROAD.AND, UM, I, I FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE A LONG AND DIFFICULT ROAD FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND, UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE CONTEXT FOR THIS PROJECT.
IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW RANCHO LAHABRA CAME ABOUT THE WESTRIDGE GOLF COURSE, THE KWAN FAMILY, AND PAYING SOME ATTENTION TO HER WORDS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I, SHE HAS SUBMITTED A VIDEO FOR YOU TONIGHT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO PLAY THE VIDEO IF THAT'S OKAY.
I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY FAMILY, MY SISTER, MY DAUGHTER, JACQUELINE, AND MY MARGARET, OUR FAMILY
HE HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM ENVIRONMENTAL, WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER AND THE GOLF COURSE.
AND SO, AGAIN, OUR FAMILY DREAM AT THE TIME WANTS TO INVEST IN THE GOLF COURSE, CREATING A STEADY STREAM OF INCOME GENERATION.
PART OF THE WORK WITH JEAN WE LINDA WAY AND ESTABLISHED IN MONACO
THIS HAS CAUSED GOLF CRAY PRICING TO BECOME EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE, AND IT HAS BECOME MORE COMPLICATED TO MARKET AND TO ATTRACT PLAYERS.
NOW LESS THAN 10% OF OUR PLAYERS ACTUALLY RESIDE IN MOUNT BARBRA AND THE COST TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE PREMISES HAS CONSISTENTLY INCREASED YEAR OVER YEAR CHALLENGING ALL OF US, AN ALL GOLF COURSE OWNERS AND OPERATORS IN 2013, DURING THE TIME THAT CALIFORNIA WAS EXPERIENCING ITS MOST SERIOUS DROUGHT IN YEARS AND WATER USE BEGAN TO LOOK LIKE A SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO OUR OPERATIONS AND SURVIVAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ALL KNOW THAT ANOTHER DROUGHT AND ANOTHER, AFTER THAT, OR FOLLOW OUR FAMILY, HELD A MEETING AND EVALUATED THE DOWNWARD DIRECTION AND TRENDS OF THE GOLF MARKET INDUSTRY.
THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ABUSE ALL PLAY.
WE WERE EXPERIENCING DECLINING REVENUES, OUR INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY, THE INCOME AND COST VARIABLES TO OUR BUSINESS MODELS AND STRATEGIES, THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROPERTY AND FACILITIES, THE LOCK OF RECLAIMED WATER AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTY TO REDUCE OUR WATER.
THE HIGH COST, AN AMOUNT OF WATER.
OUR GOLF COURSE REQUIRES AS RATES CONTINUE TO ESCALATE MITIGATION BY ARMY TELL NEIGHBOR FOR GOLF BALL INTRUSION INTO THEIR BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES IN THE NEW ORLEANS OF DOLLARS REQUIRED FOR REPAIRS AND UPGRADES.
AFTER 20 PLUS YEARS OF CONTINUING USE THE VARIOUS OPTIONS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING, AND THE NEGATIVE CASHFLOW BEING VERY EXPENSIVE.
YOU CAN SEE SOME THAT MOST OF THE COUNCIL MAY ALSO REMEMBER THAT WE CONSIDERED BUILDING A HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME, AS WELL AS EXPANDING OUR BANQUET FACILITIES AS A MEANS TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL INCOME, TO SUPPORT OUR CASHFLOW REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S HER VIBE I'VE READ PROVED TO NOT BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AND POTENTIALLY WILL ALSO REQUIRE US TO REMOVE GOLF HOLES, WHICH WOULD DIMINISH THE COURSE ATTRIBUTES AND PERCEPTION.
ALL FAMILY DID MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CLUB HOUSE AND DRIVING RANGE FACILITIES AS THE PHYSICAL PROPERTY CONSTRAINTS ALLOWED.
AS WE STRUGGLED TO CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, IT WAS DURING THIS TIME IN 2013 THAT OUR FAMILY MADE A VERY DIFFICULT AND STRATEGIC DECISION DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS WE WERE FACING AND FORECASTING IN OUR BUSINESS.
AND THE FACT THAT WE DID OWN A LARGE, A HUNDRED ACRE PARCEL, WHICH COULD BE BEING DEVELOPED.
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WE WORKED WITH MR. PETERSON TO EXPLORE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF OUR PROPERTY AND REIMAGINE A USE THAT WOULD ASSIST US TO RECOUP OUR INVESTMENT AND LOSSES.WE HAVE EXPERIENCED BECAUSE OF OUR PROPERTIES, ADJACENCY TO MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE, A TRANSIT SYSTEM, AND A VERY NICE RETAIL CENTER.
OUR FIRST THOUGHT WAS HIGH DENSITY.
RESIDENTIAL MIGHT BE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS WE STRUGGLED WITH TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, INAPPROPRIATE STUFF BOX.
MR. PETERSON SUGGESTED OH, LESS DENSE RESIDENTIAL OPTION COUPLED WITH A PARK AND TRAIL COMPONENT, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY FACILITY FOR OTHER CITIZENS IN THE CITY TO ENJOY NUMEROUS BUILDERS WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND PROPOSALS RECEIVED BY 2014, WORKING WITH MR. PETERSON, WE PUT OUR TRUST IN EXPERIENCED HOME BUILDER AND WE JOINTLY SELECTED STANDARD PACIFIC HOMES AND ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT FOR THEM TO PURCHASE THE SELECTION OF STANDARD.
MANY CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED STANDARD PACIFIC HOMES MERGE TO BECOME CAL ATLANTIC AND CAL ATLANTIC WAS LATER PURCHASED BY LEONARD HOMES.
THE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY TO HAVE ALSO CHANGED THROUGH THE CITY'S SEVEN YEAR PLANNING APPROVAL AND STUDY PROCESS AND WHAT OUR FAMILY THOUGHT WOULD BE A 750 HOME PROJECT HAS BEEN REVISED TO BECOME A 443 HOME PROJECT WITH THIS CHANGE IN DENSITY, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS COMMUNITY BENEFITS BEING OFFERED TO THE CITY AND COMMUNITY.
OUR DIVISIONAL SALES PRICE HAD TO BE REDUCED TO INCORPORATE THE REVISED MORE SPECIFIC DESIGN AND THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS.
AT THIS POINT, OUR FAMILY CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY MORE CONTRACTUAL MODIFICATION THAT WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED MINOR AS SUCH.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY OF THE POSITION OUR FAMILY BUSINESS WAS IN AND IS IN, AND THE DECISION OUR FAMILY ULTIMATELY HAD TO MAKE THE DECISION TO ANNOUNCE OUR FAMILY'S FUTURE CLOSURE AND SALE OF THE WESTBRIDGE GOLF COURSE.
PROPERTY WAS HARD FOR OUR FAMILY AND CAME WITH SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES.
ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES OUR FAMILY HAS EXPERIENCED WAS THE BULLYING EFFORTS AND GROSS MISINFORMATION INFORMATION GENERATED BY PERSONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPAIGN TO RESTRICT OUR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, TO SUIT THEIR OWN NEEDS.
IT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN MOHARA WHO LIKE US HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS BULLYING, OR ARE AFRAID THAT IF THEY SUPPORT A REUSE OF OUR PROPERTY TO A HIGHER AND BETTER USE, THERE'LL BE RETALIATION ON THEMSELVES AND OR THEIR BUSINESSES BY THEM SAYING, WE'LL HAVE A LEADERSHIP.
MANY PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US THIS.
IT WAS ALSO STRESSFUL AND HURTFUL TO WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARINGS AND LISTEN TO PERSONS, CALL A PROPERTY, A TOXIC DUMP, A SUPERFUND SITE AND HAZARDOUS.
ALL OF WHICH IS NOT TRUE AT THE SAME HEARINGS.
OTHERS TALKED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY.
THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE PROPERTY AND WE MUST PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN OUR FAMILY'S EXPENSE FOR THEIR VISUAL, THAT ACCESS OR YOUTH.
I THINK MAYBE SOME PEOPLE FORGET THAT OUR FAMILY PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROPERTY ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO.
AND WE DID THE BEST WE CAN GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO KEEP THE PROPERTY LOOKING GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I CONSIDER MORE COST TO OUR FAMILY.
THIS IS DRIVEN BY MY FAMILY'S PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP, AS YOU MOST LIKELY HAVE SEEN OVER THE YEARS NOW, EVEN MOST EXPERIENCED GOLF COURSE OPERATORS LIKE AMERICAN GOLF HAVE BEEN FORCED TO SELL OR PUT UP FOR SALE.
MANY OF THEIR GOLF COURSE PROPERTIES IN CALIFORNIA SHOULD BE DEVELOPMENT AS A GAME OF PLAYING A ROUND OF GOLF ON 150 ACRES OF ACQUIRED LAND, COUPLED WITH HUGE WATER DEMANDS, ESCALATING COSTS TO OPERATE MOUNTING LIABILITIES ON CERTAINTIES OF WATER AVAILABILITY WHILE DEMAND HAS FALLEN OFF AND CONTINUE TO DECREASE HAS CAUSED SERIOUS FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS.
THE GAME OF GOLF BUSINESS, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY GOLF COURSE OWNERSHIP HAS BECOME LESS VIABLE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND CORPORATIONS AND OUR CASE CANNOT BE SUSTAINED TODAY.
WE ALSO CONTINUE TO LIVE WITH THE FEAR AND EFFECTS
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OF THE COVID PANDEMIC AS MANY OTHER BUSINESSES DO AS WELL.THE PIN DEMEC HAS ONLY NINE TO FIVE, THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF OUR BUSINESS.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR OUR FAMILY BUSINESS, WE HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN SINCE MARCH AND ONLY RECENTLY OPENED.
SO I PLAY OUR BANQUET AND EVENTS, BUSINESS REMAINS TENTATIVE AND UNPREDICTABLE THERE'S MINIMUM GOLF PLAYED DUE TO SO MANY PEOPLE BEING LAID OFF OR UNEMPLOYED.
SO THE CURRENT LEVELS OF PLAY DO NOT SUPPORT THAT FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS OF OPERATING AND MAINTAINING 150 ACRE PROPERTY OR BUSINESS ON THE GOLF INDUSTRY.
WE WANT TO FIND ROOM FUTURE FOR GOLF COURSE.
THIS IS THE THING THAT REQUIRES CHOOSE THE STORES TO MAINTAIN AND TO PLAY THIS GAME AND DROPPED OFF AND CONTINUE TO DROP OFF TO IMPLY THAT OUR FAMILY IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN OUR BUSINESS AND PROPERTY AS OPEN SPACE FOR THEIR BENEFIT IN SYMPHONY.
OUR FAMILY IS PROBABLY THE LYING ON HIS PHONE WITH THE PLAN.
THE PLAN IS NOT TRIPPING WITH GREAT BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS OFFERING AS A LOCAL BUSINESS.
AND WHEN IT'S DONE, THEY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THE RUNNER OF VACATION AND HELP TO MOVE OUR PROPERTY FORWARD, TO ACHIEVE HIGHER AND BETTER EXPERIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MOVED LISTENING TO THE FAMILY, UM, AND WAS PAINED TO HEAR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID.
UM, THE LAST TIME AROUND, UH, OUR CORE VALUES AT LAMAR ARE QUALITY VALUE AND INTEGRITY.
AND IT'S, IT'S THE THING ABOUT THE KWAN FAMILY THAT I THINK IS I AM NOT LOUD ENOUGH, SORRY.
IT'S THE THING ABOUT THE QUAN FAMILY THAT I JUST HOPE IS NOT LOST IN WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
THERE IS INTEGRITY IN WHAT THEY'VE DONE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
THEY HAVE SUFFERED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THEY COULD HAVE CLOSED THIS GOLF COURSE.
THIS GOLF COURSE COULD BE GRAY OR GREEN BROWN, UH, AND IT COULD BE NOT OPERATIONAL, BUT SHE LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND BECAUSE SHE HAS PRIDE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY, SHE WOULD NOT DO THAT AT A LOSS.
SHE CONTINUES TO SUFFER THROUGH THIS PROCESS DAY BY DAY BY DAY.
AND I'M, I'M HONORED, FRANKLY, THAT THEY NOT ONLY CHOSE US, BUT THEY CERTAINLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY NOT TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH US.
UH, ONCE LENNART PURCHASED CAL ATLANTIC AND WE STEPPED IN INTO THEIR SHOES IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND SO I'M HONORED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THIS PROJECT, WHICH, UM, I THINK HAS INTEGRITY WOVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
AND I'D LIKE TO JUST GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF WE CAN, AND, UH, ALLOW YOU TO ALLOW ME TO SPELL OUT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT OUR VISION AND PRINCIPLES WERE FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WE PUT IT TOGETHER, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT DENSITY.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FIT HERE.
UH, WE MADE SURE THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT IN DENSITY AND FEEL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE AROUND US.
WE ALSO WERE GREYSTONE HOMES WAY BACK WHEN THERE WAS ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT OUT HERE, WE HAD TO HONOR AND ENHANCE THE UNIQUE AESTHETIC THAT MAKES LAHABRA SUCH A UNIQUE PLACE TO LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
WE HAD TO KEEP AT LEAST HALF THE SITE OPEN FOR OPEN SPACE FOR FAMILIES, FOR CHILDREN, FOR THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA TO BE ABLE TO USE.
AND FISCALLY, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BENEFITS, NOT JUST TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC STIMULUS TO THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE STILL THERE TRYING TO THRIVE AND INCREASED AN ONGOING REVENUES FOR THE CITY, WHICH I ALSO BELIEVE ARE MUCH NEEDED.
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AND ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITHOUT COSTING THE TAXPAYERS OF LAHABRA ONE PENNY, WHAT MAKES THE BENEFITS POSSIBLE IS THROUGH THE SALE OF HOMES, NOT JUST HOMES, BUT THE HIGHEST QUALITY HOMES AND INCREASING THE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE WITHIN LAHABRA OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.OF COURSE, I ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION.
WE ZONE THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PROPERTY, CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND, AND I MYSELF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN, IN, IN MANY MYSELF.
UM, AND IT ISN'T SURPRISING TO HAVE SOME LEDDY NOT SUPPORT PROJECT, BUT IF YOU TURN THIS SITUATION ON ITS HEAD AND YOU THINK ABOUT, AND I THINK MARY BEAMIS, YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION EARLIER WITH REGARD TO, UM, HOW MANY HOMES CAN BE BUILT IN LAHABRA AND THE BUILT OUT LAHABRA.
WHAT DOES THAT ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE? THIS IS 151 ACRES WITH ONLY 443 HOMES ON IT.
AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT, THEY CAN'T BE DONE 20 HOMES AT A TIME, OR WITH A 100, A APARTMENT COMPLEX, A 100 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THEY DON'T PROVIDE THE TYPE OF PUBLIC BENEFITS, UH, THAT WE PROVIDE, UH, HAVE PROVIDED FOR HERE AND PROPOSE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THOSE PARKS IN ANY EVENT.
UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH 151 ACRES, THESE OPPORTUNITIES THEY COME ABOUT AND TOGETHER WITH THE KWAN FAMILY, WE HAVE FOUND A WAY, ALTHOUGH PAINFUL AND DIFFICULT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UM, TO PROVIDE, UM, I THINK SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, BOTH FOR THE CITY AND FOR, UM, ALL THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA.
AND YOU ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT VALUES.
I WON'T TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, TO REPLICATE BUILDING A PARK LIKE THIS, TO PURCHASE THAT PARK.
IF THE CITY WAS GOING TO GO OUT AND BUY THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A UNBEARABLE, UM, BURDEN ON YOUR TAX BASE ON YOUR TAXPAYERS, UH, TO GO OUT AND TRY AND BUY A SITE THE SIZE.
UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR YOU TO ASK ANSWER SOME OF THE EXPERTS THERE.
THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU FULFILLS THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE ESTABLISHED AT THE OUTSET, WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF.
WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND WHAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED.
WE'RE EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH STAFF AND WITH ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WERE INVOLVED.
WE'RE PROUD THAT THERE'S 40 ACRES OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
THAT'S INCLUDING WHAT WE CONSIDER THE CROWN JEWELS, WHICH IS THAT BEAUTIFUL 16 PARK WE DISCUSSED AS WELL AS 4.2 MILES OF TRAIL SYSTEMS AND, UM, GRAND TOTAL, WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, 55% OF THE TOTAL SITE IS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE.
WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT HOW THE PLAN WILL GENERATE, UH, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE LOCAL SCHOOLS.
AND ALSO HOW WE ADDRESS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SOILS.
WE HAVE FOLKS HERE THAT CAN ANSWER YOUR SPECIFIC AND DETAILED QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT WERE MENTIONED, UM, EARLIER IN TALKING ABOUT THE EIR, YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE CHILDREN THAT GREW UP IN TOWN.
THEY'LL WANT TO CONTINUE HERE.
WHEN THEY MOVE OUT OF MOM AND DAD'S HOUSE, YOU HAVE YOUNG COUPLES HERE THAT ARE STARTING THEIR FAMILIES ALL OVER AGAIN.
THEY ARE BEGINNING THE CYCLE ONCE AGAIN, AND THEY MAY WANT TO LIVE IN A NEW HOME AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY OTHER THAN LAHABRA IN ORDER TO GET THERE.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOUR SUCCESS IN CREATING SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE HERE IN LAHABRA, IT WILL BRING GROWTH AS MUCH AS PRESSURE FROM SACRAMENTO MIGHT.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO AVOID GROWTH, AT LEAST IN OUR OPINION.
SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT THE KWAN FAMILY, AS WELL AS PART OF THIS.
I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR PATIENTS AND ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT'S GONE INTO CREATING THIS PLAN.
I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MY ASSOCIATE.
GARY JONES IS GOING TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU.
AND, UH, WE'LL REMAIN HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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THANK YOU, JEREMY.I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF AND WORKING ON PLANNING ON RANCHO HARBOR SINCE 2014, WHEN STANDARD PACIFIC HAD ITS INITIAL MEETINGS WITH THE CITY AS STANDARD PACIFIC TRANSITION TO CALATLANTIC.
AND THEN FINALLY IT ARE OUR CONSULTANTS.
AND I CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF AND CITIES, INDEPENDENT CONSULTANTS TO FULLY ANALYZE EVERY ISSUE, WHETHER IT WAS REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, GENERALLY REGARDED AS THE TOUGHEST IN THE NATION, OR BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED BY THE CITY OR NUMBER ANOTHER PUBLIC AGENCY.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDES HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALONG WITH THE VISION THAT JEREMY CLEARLY OUTLINED SLIDE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER ALL THESE TONIGHT, BUT WITH THE HELP OF SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS, I'LL LEAD YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING OUR PLAN AND CULMINATING.
AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE RANCHO LAHABRA WITH THIS $40 MILLION PUBLIC BENEFITS PACKAGE.
AND FINALLY, WE'LL PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT WILL SHOW YOU THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE HARBOR ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN AND WANT TO MAKE ALL OF ITS BENEFITS REALIZED LET'S GO WHERE WE STARTED THE LAND ITSELF WHEN HOME BUILDERS AND CERTAINLY MYSELF AND LINDAR START ANALYZING A PROPERTY.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S LIES BENEATH WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE GOLF COURSE.
WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S BENEATH SO WE CAN BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT IS SAFE AND THAT FITS IN ON THE LAND TO HELP EXPLAIN HOW THIS DONE ONCE, INTRODUCE OUR LEAD GEOTECHNICAL CONSULTANT, DESPERATE NICK FROM LGC GEOTECHNICAL.
AND GOOD EVENING AS THE PROJECT GEOTECHNICAL CONSULTANT OR SOILS ENGINEER, OUR JOB IS TO LOOK BELOW THE GROUND SURFACE AND SEE WHAT OTHERS CAN'T.
THE CURRENT SUBSURFACE GEO-TECHNICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SOIL, STATE, GRAPHY, BEDROCK, CHARACTERISTICS, DEPTH TO GROUNDWATER AND UNDERSTANDING THE ENTIRE GEOLOGIC HISTORY OF THE LAND.
FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NUMEROUS TOOLS AVAILABLE TO CONNECT THE DOTS FROM MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO.
THROUGH PRESENT DAY, WE SEARCHED THE CITY AND COUNTY ARCHIVES TO FIND RECORDS OF GRADING AND SOILS WORK THAT PROCEEDED US.
WE REVIEWED REGIONAL GEOLOGIC REPORTS, PERFORMED ONSITE, GEOTECHNICAL BORINGS, COLLECTED SOIL SAMPLES, CONDUCTED STATE OF THE ART GEOTECHNICAL LABORATORY TESTING AND PERFORM GEOTECHNICAL ANALYSIS.
AND WHAT WE FOUND AND FORGIVE THE PUN, ESTABLISHED THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE DESIGN OF RANCHO LA HABRA.
WE TOOK ALL THE ONSITE GEO-TECHNICAL CONDITIONS AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S GEO-TECHNICAL REVIEWER.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE RANCHO LA BRA DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE BUILT? WE DETERMINED WHERE THE PARK SHOULD GO.
WE DETERMINED WHERE THE ROAD SHOULD GO, HOW THE SOIL SHOULD BE GRADED AND SEQUENCED.
SO THAT WOULD BE BOTH SAFE FOR THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.
MUCH OF OUR ANALYSIS IS ROOTED IN MATH AND SCIENCE, BUT IT'S ALSO IN REGULATION.
CALIFORNIA HAS EXTREMELY STRICT GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND FUTURE RESIDENTS FROM ALL THINGS GEO-TECHNICAL.
AND WE FULLY COMPLIED WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS.
AS I MENTIONED, OUR FOCUS WAS TO UNDERSTAND THE GEOLOGIC HISTORY OF THE CURRENT ONSITE GEO-TECHNICAL CONDITIONS ONSITE.
WE DRILLED SIX LARGE DIAMETER BORINGS UP TO 150 FEET DEEP.
AND AS YOU SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE SLIDE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, THESE BORINGS ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO LOWER A GEOLOGIST DOWNHOLE FOR SEVERAL HOURS IN EACH SPORING TO EXAMINE THE SOIL AND BEDROCK CHARACTERISTICS UP CLOSE AND TO COLLECT PRECISE SAMPLES.
WE ALSO DRILLED 18 SMALL DIAMETER BORINGS ON THE SITE TO DEPTHS OF 75 FEET TO COLLECT UNDISTURBED SOIL AND BEDROCK SAMPLES FOR DETAILED LABORATORY TESTING.
WE EVEN USE HIGH TECH SUBSURFACE TECHNIQUES, SUCH AS CONE, PENETRATION, TESTING, OR CPTS TO COLLECT CONTINUOUS DETAILED SUBSURFACE INFORMATION.
WE PERFORMED A TOTAL OF 11 OF THESE ONSITE TO DEPTHS UP TO 65 FEET DEEP.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE PRETTY MUCH USED EVERY LOCAL SUBSURFACE GEO-TECHNICAL TECHNIQUE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
WE ALSO DEDICATED SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS ALONG THE EDGES OF THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE THE GLOBAL STABILITY OF THE PERIMETER SLOPES.
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THIS INCLUDED THE SHORT TERM AND LONGTERM STABILITY AFTER DEVELOPMENT.THE CONCLUSION THAT WE REACHED, WHICH THE CITY OF LA HARBOR GEOTECHNICAL REVIEWER AGREED WITH IS THE FUTURE PERIMETER SLOPES AROUND RANCHO LAHABRA WILL BE THE SAME OR MORE STABLE THAN IN THEIR CURRENT CONFIGURATION.
AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE HEARD SEVERAL MISINFORMED STATEMENTS ABOUT CAP OIL WELLS ON OUR SITE AND CONTAMINATED SOILS.
EVERY ISSUE THEY RAISED WAS STUDIED AND IS PRESENTED FOR ALL TO SEE IN THE EIR.
WE FOUND EVERY CAPPED OIL WELL ON SITE, INCLUDING THE FOUR THAT YOU SEE IN THE FUTURE PARKS AND THEN FEATURE PARK SITE, WHICH HAS SHOWN WITH THE GREEN CIRCLES ON THE SCREEN.
THE DOCUMENTS SHOWS THAT ALL WERE ABANDONED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL STATE REGULATIONS.
THE NEXT SLIDE THERE WE ARE IN THE FUTURE RANCHO LA HARBOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE FOUND SEVEN CAPPED WELLS, WHICH ARE SHOWN WITH THE BLUE CIRCLES ON THE SCREEN.
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LAND PLANNERS USE THIS INFORMATION TO CAREFULLY DESIGN NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THERE AREN'T ANY CAPPED WELLS UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE PAD.
SO IN ALL, THERE ARE 11 OF THESE CONFORMING CAPPED WELLS WITHIN THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT, ALONG WITH ANOTHER 10 ON THE OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST OR THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
AGAIN, ALL OF THESE WELLS WERE FOUND TO BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH STATE REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE ABANDONMENT OF WELLS PER THE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATIONS DIVISION OF OIL, GAS, AND GEOTHERMAL RESOURCES OR DOGGER.
AS IT'S KNOWN, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT STORY FOR THE SITES, NEIGHBORING WESTBRIDGE COMMUNITY, WHICH GENERATED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CAPPED WELLS ON OUR SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, COMPARED TO RANCHO LA HARBORS, 11 WELLS WITHIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AREA, THERE ARE 68 CAPPED WELLS WITHIN THE WEST RIDGE COMMUNITY, BUT WEST RIDGE RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T WORRY BECAUSE THEIR WELLS TOO WERE ABANDONED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE STATE'S REGULATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS OF OILY SOILS AS A RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS LAND USE.
THESE SOILS ARE COMMON THROUGHOUT MUCH OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHERE THERE ARE SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE BUILT OVER OLD OIL FIELDS.
OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE STATE AND COUNTY RECORDS SHOWED THAT WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS REDEVELOPED, THESE SOILS WERE PROPERLY REMEDIATED IN COMPLETE ACCORDANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS ENACTED BY DOGGER, WHICH ENFORCES REGULATIONS FOR OIL.
WELL, ABANDONMENT COMPLIANCE DURING CERT SITE WORK WAS MONITORED THROUGH ONSITE INSPECTIONS BY ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY.
AS WE DO OUR WORK THIS TIME, DOGGER MUST APPROVE OUR PLANS AND THE ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY WILL BE ONSITE ONCE AGAIN, ENSURING THAT OUR WORKERS ARE SAFE.
LASTLY, WE ALSO HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE REFER TO THE SITE AS A SUPERFUND SITE.
IT'S NOT, AND IT NEVER WAS ACCORDING TO THE BEST SOURCE FOR SUCH INFORMATION, THAT THERE IS THE U S ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SUPER FUND SITE IN THE NATION.
IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN OVER HERE, AND YOU SEARCH SUPER FUND SITES TYPE IN CALIFORNIA, AND THEN TYPE IN LAHABRA, YOU CAN SEE THE GOOD NEWS.
NOT ONLY ARE THERE NO SUPERFUND SITES ON THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE, THERE ARE NO SUPERFUND SITES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF LAHABRA.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE SOILS LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE DIDN'T ADDRESS YOU, TOM, BUT SO BESIDES SOILS, THE OTHER MAJOR COMPONENT THAT WE LOOK AT RIGHT UPFRONT AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS WHAT IS THE BIOLOGY LIKE? WHAT'S THE HABITAT ON SITE? UH, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND TO ADDRESS THAT HERE'S TONY ON CAMP, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M TONY BOMB CAMP WITH GLEN GLUCOSE ASSOCIATES, UH, THE PROJECT BIOLOGISTS.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON THE SITE SINCE ABOUT 19.
UM, SO GIVEN THE NUMEROUS HOURS, WE HAVE SPENT SURVEYING FOR SPECIAL STATUS AND COMMON SPECIES AND MAPPING HABITATS IN AND AROUND THE EDGES OF THE GOLF COURSE CONSULTING WITH THE CITY AND THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE AND PLANNING, VARIOUS APPROACHES.
WE HAVE CAREFULLY EVALUATED THE SITES, WILDLIFE AND VEGETATION RESOURCES WITH THE GOAL, NOT JUST OF AGENCY APPROVAL, BUT ALSO TO CREATE A WAY TO TRANSFORM THE EXISTING DEGRADED AND LARGELY ISOLATED HABITATS ON SITE INTO SOMETHING
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LIKE THE, YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLES, THE LEFT IS THE DEGRADED HABITAT AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE, THE HIGH VALUE HABITAT.THAT IS THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, ENHANCING THE CONSERVATION FOR SPECIES IN THIS AREA.
THE DEGRADATION OF THE GOLF COURSES HABITAT DIDN'T COME ABOUT BECAUSE OF MISMANAGEMENT BY THE CURRENT OWNERS, AS SOME STATED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARINGS.
IN FACT, THERE ARE DEED RESTRICTIONS OVER THE PROPERTY, WHICH PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING TO MAINTAIN OR IMPROVE THE HABITAT.
WHEN WE MET WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, UH, THEY LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS DONE AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE WOULD NEVER DO IT LIKE THIS ANYMORE.
SO, UM, WE RECOGNIZE IT IN DEVELOPING A PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND PERMITTED BY THEM.
THE RESULTING PLAN REPLACES THE, THOSE EARLIER MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FROM THE LAHABRA HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN WITH NEW ECOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR HABITAT MITIGATION THAT IS NOW IN THE RANCHO LAHABRA SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE PLANS IMPACTS TO MULE FAT SCRUB AND UPLAND, COASTAL SAGE VEGETATION, AND RIPARIAN AREAS, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
THE CURRENT DEED RESTRICTED AREAS, THE EXISTING RIPARIAN AREAS WILL NOT SURVIVE.
WHEN THE GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION IS ELIMINATED.
THE PLAN COMBINES TWO ELEMENTS.
FIRST ONSITE, THERE WILL BE 9.4 ACRES OF HABITAT CONSERVATION AND ENHANCEMENT LOCATED IN THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS YOU SEE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COURSE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE COULD ATTAIN CONNECTIVITY WITH THE OFFSITE AREAS OF HABITAT.
THE GREEN ON THE SLIDE IS 3.5 ACRES OF HABITAT PRESERVATION.
AND THE, AND THE BLUE IS 5.9 ACRES OF HABITAT CREATION.
THAT 9.4 ACRES IS NEARLY EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF DEGRADED AND MOSTLY ISOLATED HABITAT ON THE SITE.
NOW, THE NAR WILL FUND AN ENDOWMENT OF SUFFICIENT SIZE THAT WILL ALLOW THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE ANNUAL INCOME WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO ENSURE THAT THE HABITAT IS MAINTAINED AND MANAGE.
SECOND, WE WILL PURCHASE HABITAT OFFSITE AND CONSULT IN CONSULTATION WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND DFW AND DEED IT TO A CONSERVATION ORGANIZATION SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN AND PROTECT IT.
IN CONCLUSION, CDFA HAS REVIEWED THE EIRS BIOLOGICAL MITIGATION MEASURES AND CONCURS THAT WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROPOSED MEASURES, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS CAN NOW BE VACATED DUE TO THE SUPERIOR ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS AND VALUES THAT THE PROJECT CAN PROVIDE THROUGH THE MITIGATION PROGRAM.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE RANCHO LAHABRA LAND PLAN, WE NEED TO ADDRESS WATER SAVINGS.
IT TAKES A LOT OF WATER TO KEEP GOLF COURSE SCREEN.
WE ALL HAVE SEEN IMAGES OF GOLF COURSES DRIVING BY THERE WITH THE SPRINKLERS GOING NONSTOP.
IT TAKES ABOUT 90 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A YEAR.
SO YOU HEARD THE KWONS SAY EARLIER THAT WATER AVAILABILITY AND COST WAS ONE OF THE TRIGGERING EVENTS IN THEIR DECISION TO CLOSE THE GOLF COURSE.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCEMENTS IN WATER SAVINGS WITH DROUGHT, TOLERANT, LANDSCAPING, SMART IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND EFFICIENT FIXTURES AND APPLIANCES, WE CAN PROVIDE OUR 443 HOMES WITH WATER AND IRRIGATE OUR OPEN SPACE AND STILL USE 30 MILLION GALLONS A YEAR LESS THAN THE GOLF COURSE USES.
BESIDES THE OBVIOUS BENEFITS OF BEING LESS WATER DEPENDENT, A DROP PRONE STATE, THE 30 MINUTE MILLION GALLON CUSHION RANCHO LAHABRA WILL PROVIDE IS CRITICAL FOR THE CITY WHEN THE NEXT DROUGHT COMES.
AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW SEVERE IT IS HAVING THAT 30 MILLION GALLON BUFFER IS A GREAT SAFETY AND RELIEF VALVE FOR THE CITY OF LA HABRA.
WITHOUT THAT THEY HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND PURCHASE WATER FROM OTHER SOURCES, THOSE WATER SUPPLIES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION UNKNOWN ON THE CERTAINTY, IT'LL BE THERE.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH HAVING THE SAFETY FACTOR FOR THE CITY IS CRITICAL AND WAS ONE PART OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND DESIGNING THE WHOLE PROJECT WITH THAT.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DAVID OBITS TO TALK ABOUT THE LAND PLANNING.
MY NAME IS DAVID OBITS WITH KTT.
WHY ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS, UH, ONE SEVEN, NINE 11,
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UM, MITCHELL.UM, WELL AS PLANNERS, UH, WE TOOK, WE TOOK THE WORK OF DENNIS AND OTHER CONSULTANTS AND ADDED IN INFORMATION PROVIDED BY LNRS RESIDENTIAL MARKETING EXPERTS, WHICH SHOWED US THAT WHAT KIND OF HOMES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE MARKET THAT SAID BASICALLY THAT RATCHET HOLD HARBOR IS NOT A FOUR STORY, HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL KIND OF TOWN.
IT'S NOT IRVINE, EITHER MARKETING DATA.
WASN'T SURPRISING ANYONE WHO'S BEEN IN THE HARBOR.
IT SAID THAT IF WE WANTED A COMMUNITY THAT APPEALED TO PEOPLE WANTING TO LIVE IN THE HARBOR, WE SHOULD PLAN FOR LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES, AND MIDDLE DENSITY TOWNHOMES IN VARIOUS SIZES TO APPEAL TO DIFFERENT FAMILY SIZES, PRICE POINTS, AND LIFESTYLES, BLENDING, OPEN SPACE HOMES AND COMMUNITY HUMANITIES INTO A COHESIVE AND COMPATIBLE COMMUNITY PLAN.
WE ALSO GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM EARLY OUTREACH MEETINGS AND EARLY MEETINGS WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OPEN SPACE, WHICH DROVE THE FUNDAMENTAL DECISION TO CREATE A PLAN THAT HAD MORE OPEN SPACE THAN HOUSES.
AGAIN, WE'VE HEARD THIS MANY TIMES, ABOUT 50% OPEN SPACE AND 45% DEVELOPMENT.
WE WERE TOLD THAT AMENITY THE CITY WANTED MOST FOR ITS CITIZENS OR HE NEW PUBLIC PARK AND EXTENSION OF NEW PUBLIC TRAILS HAS DONE.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN EXISTING GOLF COURSE, CLUBHOUSE OPENED THE DOOR TO ANOTHER VALUABLE PUBLIC AMENITY, A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO THIS 151 ACRE CAMPUS OFFERED US GREAT POTENTIAL, BUT IN CERTAIN WAYS WE DIDN'T REALIZE ALL OF ITS POTENTIAL, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE HEARD, UH, REFERENCES ABOUT OUR PLAN IS HIGH DENSITY AGAIN AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT REALLY NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
SOME EXAMPLES WE WANT TO SHARE ARE SOME HIGH DENSITY, GOLF COURSE REDEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING CURRENTLY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UM, BUT BEFORE LOOK AT THOSE EXAMPLES IN DETAIL, AS PLANNERS, WE WORK ON ALL KINDS OF MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES ALL OVER CALIFORNIA.
OUR FIRM IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CURRENT TREND, WHAT THE CURRENT TRENDS ARE AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF GOLF COURSE SITES.
THERE IS INCREDIBLE PRESSURE FROM SACRAMENTO SCAG AND MANY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPMENT, MAXIMIZE HOME HOMES AND TO DELIVER DENSITY.
BUT AT RANCHO HOMBRE, THE PLAN WAS DESIGNED WAS DESIGNED MORE THAN SIX YEARS AGO.
AND OVER THOSE YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN TECTONIC SHIFTS IN LAND PLANNING AS STATE LAWS, DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT ON URBAN FRINGE AND ENCOURAGE HIGH DENSITY, INFILL DEVELOPMENT, NEAR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, LIKE PEACH BOULEVARD AND IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
THE SCARCITY OF HOMES THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA HAS HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON GOLF COURSE, READABLE AND PLANNING.
AND AGAIN, THERE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES WE'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT, UM, WE BEEN INVOLVED IN PLANNING AND DESIGN IS, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE UPPER LEFT AND THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE WILL OF A GOLF COURSE THAT SANTA ANA AND GARDEN GROVE IS DEVELOPING.
ISN'T SO MUCH THE INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF OFFICES AND HIGH DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE SQUEEZED ONTO THE SITE.
IT'S JUST THAT THE SITE IS TWO THIRDS, THE SIZE OF WESTBRIDGE GOLF COURSE.
AND THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SITE PLAN IS FOR THE RESORT IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA WIDTH, 3,450 HOMES.
AND, UH, AND MUCH LIKE THE IMAGE WE SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH THERE.
UM, AND IT'S ALL ON A CLOSED GOLF COURSE, AND IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS RIDGE, NEARLY THE SAME ACREAGE AS WESTRIDGE 3000, OVER 3,450 HOMES.
SO LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE RESORT AND, UH, AS IT COMPARES THERE, RANCHO LAHABRA, UH, STARTING OFF WITH A SITE SIZE, AGAIN, THEY'RE NEARLY IDENTICAL 160 ACRES VERSUS OUR 151 ACRES.
BUT IN THAT SITE, THE RESORT HAS ALMOST EIGHT TIMES AS MANY UNITS, INCLUDING APARTMENTS, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, WITH THREE, WITH 3,450 UNITS, OURS IS ONLY 443 UNITS WITH NO APARTMENTS.
UM, THOSE PLANS, THOSE OTHER REDEVELOPMENTS MAXIMIZING DEVELOPMENT AREA DEVELOPMENT AREA WAS A PRIORITY.
LOOKING AT THE DENSITY OF THE RESORT.
IT HAS 21 AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE IN OVER 220,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
RANCHO LAHABRA HAS 2.9 UNITS PER ACRE AND POTENTIALLY ZERO COMMERCIAL AREA.
INCREDIBLE DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO THE RESORT.
WE ARE MUCH BETTER AT PROTECTING OPEN SPACE, AGAIN WITH 55% OF OUR SITE BEING OPEN SPACE.
AND, UH, AS OPPOSED TO THE EXAMPLE WE'RE SHOWING THE HIGH DENSITY VERSION, ONLY 5% IS DEDICATED TO OPEN SPACE.
WE AREN'T DOING THAT HERE BECAUSE WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO BE COMPATIBLE AND TO FIT IN WITH A NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
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SO IN CONTRAST, UH, WE STARTED WITH A GOAL OF DENSITY COMPATIBILITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE ACHIEVED IT, THE HIGH SENSITIVE HOMES AND OUR PROJECT ARE THE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES WITH 13.4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE BLUE AREA ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE AND ACROSS ON BEACH BOULEVARD IS A HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENTS.AS A COMPARISON, AS CONTEXT HAS A DENSITY OF 20 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS IN THE GRAY AREA.
SO WE CAN SEE THAT WE'RE MORE THAN COMPATIBLE WHERE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS DEATHS THAN WHAT'S NEXT TO US WITH, WITH SIMILAR USE IN RANCHO HARBOR, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU'LL SEE NOTHING BUT LOW DENSITY RANGING FROM 3.3 TO 3.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, THAT RIGHT NEXT, JASON TO WEST RIDGE, WHICH HAS A DENSITY OF 3.5 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
SO AGAIN, VERY COMPATIBLE ARE OUR SMALLER LOT SMALLER HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS A DENSITY OF 4.6 UNITS TO THE ACRE IS, WHICH IS IN LINE OR RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ITS NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS IS 4.5 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY COMPATIBLE IF NOT LOWER DENSITY, THAT'S WHAT THEN WHAT'S DIRECTLY NEXT TO US.
IT'S IN KEEPING WITH MANY OF THE HARBORS NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH ARE LOW DENSITY, SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST LIKE RANCHO LA HABRA REGARDING OPEN SPACE.
UM, 80 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS NICE, BUT WHAT MATTERS MORE IS THE OPEN SPACE.
THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR USE AND ENJOYMENT.
WE HAVE 40 ACRES IN THIS PLAN.
THE LAND WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND FREE FOR THEM TO USE AND ENJOY.
IN CONTRAST, THE CURRENT GOLF COURSE HAS ZERO FREE TO ACCESS ACRES OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE.
SO AS PLANNERS, WE LOOKED AT THESE 80 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND BEGAN ENVISIONING HOW TO BEST DESIGN IT.
SO THE PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE MAXIMIZED, UM, THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE 17TH AND 18 HOLES OF THE GOLF COURSE, AND IT'S A PROXIMITY TO IMPERIL HIGHWAY AND THE FUTURE COMMUNITY CENTER MAY NOT AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE NEW PUBLIC PARK, WHICH WILL BE DESCRIBED IN MORE DETAIL.
AND JUST ABOUT THE NORTH FACING TOPOGRAPHY ON THE WEST EDGE OF THE PROJECT MAKES IT IDEAL FOR THE NATIVE SAFE COASTAL SAGE SCRUB.
SO, SO, UM, THE IDEAL, OKAY, SO IT WAS THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE 10 ACRE HABITAT PRESERVATION AREA, THE EXISTING GOLF COURSE GOLF CART PATHWAYS TO CREATE A REMARKABLE TRAIL SYSTEM STRETCHING FROM IDAHO STREET ON THE EAST TO BEACH BOULEVARD, TO THE WEST AROUND THE PARK AND WILDLIFE AREA WITH VISTA POINTS AND INFORMATIONAL KIOSK AT KEY LOCATIONS ALTOGETHER THAT COMES TO 40 ACRES OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, FULLY HALF THE 80 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE ON THE SITE.
UM, WE WANT TO JUST GET SOME CONTEXT OF FEELING WHAT 40 ACRES OF PUBLIC'S OPEN SPACE WAS LIKE.
SO WE OVERLAYED THE 40 ACRES ON A MAP OF DOWNTOWN, AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM HAZEL STREET TO THE, ON THE WEST, TO ORANGE ON THE EAST, EMMA ON THE NORTH AND SECOND AVENUE ON THE SOUTH.
IT'S INTERESTING TO COMPARE THE SIZE OF OUR OPEN SPACE TO THAT OF PORTOLA PARK.
ONE OF THE CITY'S SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE AREAS.
IF HE WANTED TO DUPLICATE RANCHO LAHABRA IS OPEN SPACE GIFT TO THE CITY.
THIS IS HOW MUCH LAND YOU HAVE TO BUY.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE COST? YEAH, HERE'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OR PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, MEDIUM DENSITY TOWNHOMES ON THE WEST, THE LOWEST DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG THE EAST, ALONG IDAHO, WITHIN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE HOMES ARE DESIGNED AND PRICED WITH LAHABRA MARKET IN MIND.
SO THEY CAN APPEAL TO A BROAD RANGE OF PRICE POINTS FOR MIDDLE INCOME BUYERS TO MOVE UP BUYERS, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SMALLEST HOMES ARE THERE.
80 OF THEM ON A 47 BY 70 FOOT MINIMUM, LOT SIZE FOUR BEDROOMS, TWO CAR GARAGES, APPROXIMATELY 2350 SQUARE FEET, UH, 26, 75 SQUARE FEET.
THE, UH, THE NEXT, UM, BIGGER HOME IS THERE'S 115 OF THEM.
THE, EITHER ON 48, BY 80 OR 54 BY 80 FOOT, LOTS, THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE BEDROOMS, TWO OR THREE CAR GARAGES.
THEY ARE SIZED APPROXIMATELY 26, 50 TO 2,900 SQUARE FEET.
THOSE TWO DIFFERENT LOT SIZES.
THE VARIABLE LOT SIZE PROVIDES GREATER VISUAL VARIATION TO THE STREET SCENE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND, AND OUR LARGEST, UH, LOT SIZES, AGAIN ARE 55 BY 90.
AND THEY'RE 82 OF THOSE AND THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 3000 TO 3,700 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND THEY ARE ON 55 BY 90 MINIMUM FOOT LOTS.
AND THEY'LL HAVE FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOMS WITH TWO OR THREE, TWO TO THREE CAR GARAGES.
IN EACH OF THESE, YOU ARE LOOKING,
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UH, YOU'RE LOOKING, WE'LL PROVIDE THREE PLANS AND THREE ELEVATIONS OR 27 UNIQUE HOME DESIGNS, NOT JUST, NOT JUST THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, BUT ALSO THE VARIETY OF ROOF LINES, EXTERIOR MATERIALS, TRIM DETAILS.THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES ARE DESIGNED TO BE RELAXED OR CASUAL PARALLELING THE LOW DENSITY NATURE OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS AVOIDS ANYTHING APPROACHING A COOKIE CUTTER LOOK AND AVOIDS A DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
FINALLY, THESE ARE REPRESENTATIONS OF THE 177 TOWNHOMES.
THAT'LL BE A LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, ALL UNITS THAT WILL COME WITH TWO CAR GARAGES AND WE'LL HAVE THREE TO FOUR BEDROOMS THEY'LL RANGE IN SIZE FROM APPROXIMATELY 1600 TO 2100 SQUARE FEET.
ALL THESE DESIGNS WILL SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY HOMES ARE IN THE PACIFIC PLAN ALONG WITH PROVISIONS FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR YOUR FUTURE REVIEW.
SO YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE QUALITY OF DESIGN AND FINISH WE ARE SHOWING YOU HERE WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY AND FUTURE HOMEOWNERS, HOPEFULLY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, SOME OF THE FLOOR PLAN IDEAS.
UH, SOME OF THE RUMS THAT RANCHO HOLA HARBOR WILL FEATURE LUNARS NEXGEN THE HOME WITHIN A HOME, UH, WITH A SEPARATE ENTRANCE LIVING SPACE, KITCHEN, AND AN ETERNAL CONNECTING DOOR TO THE MAIN HOUSE.
THE NEXT JUST NEXT GEN DESIGN HAS PROVIDED TO BE ESPECIALLY DESIRABLE DURING THIS EXTRAORDINARY TIME WHERE THE HOME ALSO SERVES AS OUR OFFICE, OUR GYM, OUR SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE PLACE OUR PARENTS ARE GROWING.
CHILDREN CAN LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.
IT'S A GREAT FEATURE LATER ON.
YOU'LL HEAR THE NEW TREND OF WORKING AT HOME CAUSED BY THE PANDEMIC MAY CAUSE TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY AT PEAK HOUR TO DROP CONSIDERABLY HOMES LIKE THIS WILL MAKE WORKING AT HOME MUCH EASIER AND CAN SERVE TO FURTHER THIS HELPFUL TREND.
NOW WE TURN TO WHAT JEREMY REFERRED TO AS THE CROWN JEWEL RANCHO.
LAHABRA OUR PARKS, OUR TRAILS, OUR COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, TO INTRODUCE YOU TO WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE DYNAMICS HERE IS LAHABRA NATIVE
UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME THIS HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, PATRICK MURPHY WERE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS CHARGED WITH THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ON THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT.
OUR BACKGROUND INCLUDES ON THE ORIGINAL WESTRIDGE PROJECT, UH, GROWING UP HERE FOR 22 YEARS, I CONSIDER MYSELF STILL A NATIVE OF THE CITY.
AND HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE PREPARED, UH, TURNING TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, THIS WILL BE A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION OF THE CURRENT GOLF CLUBHOUSE, WHICH IS DESIGNATED TO HAVE THE FEEL OF A PRIVATE CLUB, OUR COMMUNITY CENTER ARCHITECT, WHO IS THE SAME ARCHITECT THAT HAS WORKED ON THIS BEAUTIFUL FACILITY HERE AT THE CITY BUILDING COUNCIL CHAMBER WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP IT A DESIGN THAT RE-IMAGINED IT AS A PUBLIC BUILDING WITH OPENNESS, AS PLACES TO MINGLE AND VARIOUS FUNCTIONAL MEETINGS, BANQUET ROOMS, AND NEEDS TO MEET THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC, THE PLAN CALLS FOR THE KEEPING AND IMPROVING OF THE KITCHEN.
SO THE CITY CAN GAIN ADDITIONAL REVENUE EVENTS AND DINNER MEETINGS.
THE LARGE BLUE SQUARE, THE MAIN BALLROOM HERE IS REPRESENTING A, AGAIN, OPENNESS TO THE GLASS SLIDING DOORS THAT WILL ENGAGE AND ACTIVATE THE OUTDOOR SPACES AS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.
THIS IS THE THING WE'RE REALLY TRANSFORMING WITH BUILDINGS AND USE SPACES, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO BENEFIT FROM THE OUTDOOR SPACES.
ALSO, THE PROJECT CALLS FOR MANY USES AS FAR AS PLAYER IS AND SO FORTH.
THERE ARE MANY TRAILS WHICH ARE MOST SOUGHT AFTER AMENITIES IN A NEW HOME COMMUNITY.
DAVID'S ALREADY EXPLAINED THE MULTI-USE TRAILS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'LL HAVE A LOOK THAT THAT'S CONSIDERED THE INSET ON, ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.
THE TWO SYSTEMS OF THESE TRAILS WILL BE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES FOR TRAIL USERS INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE 4.2 MILE NEW PUBLIC TRAIL SYSTEM FOR LAHABRA.
THE STAFF REPORT IS ONLY COUNTING ON 2.6 MILES OF PUBLIC PURPOSE TRAILS, BUT THERE ARE ANOTHER 1.6 MILES OF DECOMPOSED GRANITE TRAILS WITHIN THE PARK FOR THE 4.2 MILE TOTAL AND TWO DIFFERENT, VERY TRAIL EXPERIENCES.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE PLANT ITSELF, THE OVERALL PARK IS ENGAGING ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT INCLUDES
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AROUND A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WILL BE TRANSFORMED HERE TO INCLUDE WEDDING VENUES.THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC BAND STAND AND OPEN SPACE FOR CONCERTS MOVIES IN THE PARK.
ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU PROGRESS THROUGH THE PARK TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS, WE'VE ALSO ACTIVATED SPACES TO INCLUDE SPLASH, SPLASH PADS, EXCUSE ME, UH, PLAY AREAS TAUGHT LOTS PICNIC AREAS, SHADED PICNIC, PAVILIONS GATHERING SPACES.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE WELLNESS DESIGNED TO THIS PARK.
EVERYTHING IS ABOUT WELLNESS AND HEALTH AND FITNESS.
THESE DAYS, THIS PARK IS TOTALLY ACTIVATING ALL AREAS OF THIS PARK TO ENGAGE THE GRADING CONFIRMATION, AS WELL AS ALL THE TRAIL SYSTEMS, TREMENDOUS TRAIL ACCESS FOR ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL OF LA HARBOR WILL BE PROVIDED HERE TO ALLOW FOR A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
ONE THING, UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT VIDEO, UM, I THINK WAS FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE.
AND I THINK STAFF WOULD BACK ME UP ON THE COMMENT OF ANYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING ON THIS PLAN.
UM, PAT AND HIS GROUP HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THE COLLABORATIVE TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY WANTED.
WE ASKED WHAT WAS WANTED WHAT'S BEST TO PUT IN HERE.
SO THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH.
AND THEN WE ALSO SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH STAFF.
I THINK THEY WOULD SAY THAT, UM, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS ON THIS IS WHATEVER WE'RE PROMISING.
I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DELIVERED.
WHATEVER WE'RE SHOWING UP HERE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER ON.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COUNTING ON PAT AND HIS GROUP SAYING, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE THIS AS WELL DISCUSSED.
THIS WAS WHAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN THERE.
WE WENT TO THE DETAIL OF ACTUALLY GETTING MODELED NUMBERS OF THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, THE WHOLE THING.
SO WE'RE PREPARED TO DELIVER ON THIS.
UM, I HOPE YOU LIKE IT AS MUCH AS WE DO.
WE THINK IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.
IT'S JUST KIND OF A GAME CHANGER REALLY FOR THE AREA IS WHAT I THINK.
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SPACE FOR ALL 40 ACRES OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE FREE FOR ALL OF LAHABRA RIGHT NOW, THE GOLF COURSE YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY.IT'S NOT OPEN IT'S PRIVATE SPACE.
SO NEXT ON OUR PRESENTATION, FORGIVE ME JUST FOR A SECOND HERE.
CAUSE I DON'T SEE THE NEXT PERSON UP, UH, BRIAN BENZ FROM BERNARD HOMES AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY CAUSE I SAW HIM OUT IN THE HALLWAY.
CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST A SECOND OR IF THAT MUST BE A GOOD SEGUE, UH, MAYOR BEAMISH SURE.
SO NEXT, UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON CONSTRUCTING THE VISION BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT TO DO A BREAK, WHATEVER WE'VE GOT BRIAN BENZ RIGHT NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS OPERATION.
SO BRIAN BENDS WITH LENORE HOMES, ANYBODY NEEDED A BREAK COLLEAGUES? NO GOOD MAYOR.
CAN I TAKE A QUICK SECOND TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES? CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO DIE IN A FEW MINUTES.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT WITH LYNN, OUR HOMES.
AND I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS SOUL'S MANAGEMENT, ROUGH GRADING SCHEDULE A AS IT RELATES TO THE ACTIVITIES, UH, HERE AT RANCHO LAHABRA.
UM, AS AN OVERVIEW, WE'VE TOUCHED ON SOME OF THIS ALREADY.
THERE'S UH, THE ROUGH GRADING DURATION, UH, IS, UH, A 12 MONTH ACTIVITY, UH, WITH ABOUT 3 MILLION YARDS, JUST BARELY OVER 3 MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF MATERIAL THAT WILL BE MOVED ON AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
THIS IS, THIS IS A, IS NOT A LARGE JOB.
IT'S JUST SOMEWHERE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, DURING THE GRADING OPERATION, THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BROUGHT UP, UH, IN PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT, UH, AIRBORNE DUST AND DUSTIN HERE.
AND, UH, WE WILL BE COMPLIANT, WILL COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, M D, WHICH IS SOUTH COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT RULE FOUR OH THREE FUGITIVE DUST WILL BE APPLIED, WHICH THAT, THAT, THAT RULE FOUR OH THREE, UH, IDENTIFIES MEASURES THAT ARE TO BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, DURING THE DISTURBANCE OF EARTHWORK ACTIVITIES FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF AIRBORNE DUST FUGITIVE DUST.
SO THERE'LL BE WATER TRUCKS ON THAT SITE AS NEEDED CONTINUALLY MAKING SURE THAT THE SOIL IS MOIST SO THAT IT DOESN'T NOT BECOME AIRBORNE.
UM, AND THEN IT WILL BE MONITORED AND MANAGED, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE ROUGH GRADE, TOTAL, THE TOTAL INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND ROUGH GRADE DURATION WILL BE A 26 MONTH DURATION.
SO FROM THE TIME WE BREAK GROUND TO THE TIME WE PAVE OUT, THE STREETS WILL BE A TOTAL OF 26 MONTHS IN THAT PERIOD LAHABRA HILLS DRIVE WILL BE TEMPORARILY ABANDONED FOR 14 MONTHS, IT'LL BE CLOSED DOWN AND THEN IT WILL REOPEN AT THE END OF THE 14 MONTH PERIOD.
WE'LL BE PAVING THAT AT THE END OF THAT 14 MONTH PERIOD, THE EIR SPECIFICALLY HAS ALREADY ADJUSTED 50 MONTHS OF TEMPORARY CLOSURE TO THE HARBOR HILLS DRIVE.
SO THAT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THE SCHEDULE AND WE WILL WORK AROUND THAT, UM, INFORMATION ON THE SOIL.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIALOGUE ABOUT THE SOIL OUT THERE, THE SOIL OUT THERE, THE GOOD NEWS, I, I HEARD SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, UH, ASKED EARLY ON BY THE MAYOR, WHEREAS ASKING ABOUT VOLATILE, ORGANIC COMPOUNDS AND GASES, AND THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS SOIL IS THAT IT IS, UM, IT HAS CRUDE IMPACTED SOIL.
IT IS NOT SOIL THAT IS IMPACTED BY REFINED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, SUCH AS GAS, DIESEL, OR MOTOR OIL THAT CARRY WITH IT HIGH VALUE, A HIGH LEVEL OF VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS.
SO THIS PARTICULAR SOIL ON THE SITE WE'VE HAD OVER 500 TESTS AND OUT OF THE 500 TESTS, THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT, NO SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE OF THE OCS IN THIS SOIL.
UM, SO THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS ON THAT SOIL.
UM, FUN FACT USCPA DOES NOT CLASSIFY CRUDE OIL AS A HAZARDOUS WASTE.
EXCLUSION IS CITED IN 40 CFR, TWO 61.4 B FIVE CFR IS, UM, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
SO IT NOT, NOT THE, NOT THE CRUDE IMPACTED SOIL IS GREAT, BUT IT IS NOT CLASSIFIED AS HAZARDOUS.
UM, OUR, THE PLAN FOR THE CREW MANAGEMENT OF THE CREW IMPACT IN SOIL IS TO BURY
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IT IN THE DESIGNATED LOCATIONS.THERE WERE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOUR LOCATIONS AND WORKING FROM THE EAST, GOING TO THE WEST, UM, AS WE REMOVE THE MATERIAL THAT'S ON THE SITE THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY ENGINEERED FILL AND CREATE THESE DEPOSIT PITS, WE WILL THEN MOVE THE, UH, THE CRUDE IMPACTED SOIL INTO THESE VARIOUS ZONES.
UM, IT, THE, THE MATERIAL, THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS OPERATION AND THE, THE AGREEMENT AS TO THE DEPTH OF THE BURIAL WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ARRIVED AT BETWEEN ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY.
AND LENARA TYPICALLY, UM, ORANGE COUNTY HEALTH CARE AGENCY.
AND THEY DO, THEY ONLY ASK FOR CRUDE IMPACTED SOIL TO BE BURIED 10 FEET BELOW THE ULTIMATE SURFACE.
WE HAVE THE DEPTH HERE TO BURY THE SOIL 20 FEET BELOW THE ULTIMATE SURFACE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AGREED TO WITH THE ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY.
SO THE CRUDE IMPACT AND SOUL WILL BE RELOCATED INTO PITS AT A DEPTH, UM, NOT LESS THAN 20 FEET FROM THE FINAL GRADE, UM, TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TESTS DONE OUT ON THE SITE TO IDENTIFY THE PRESENCE OF THE CRUDE IMPACTED SOIL.
AND IT'S CURRENTLY FOUND TO BE AT A DEPTH UP TO TWO AND A HALF FEET BELOW THE EXISTING SURFACE.
SO MATERIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, UM, TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE, OR AS SHALLOW AS TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE OF THE EXISTING SURFACE WILL BE RE INTERNED AT A DEPTH, NOT LESS THAN 20 FEET.
UH, I'M A PRETTY LOUSY GOLFER, BUT I THINK I'VE ALMOST LEFT GIVENS TWO AND A HALF FEET DEEP UP THERE.
UH, ORANGE COUNTY, UH, UH, ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY WILL BE, THERE'LL BE MONITORING THE COMPLIANCE TO THIS EFFORT.
AND THE DAILY ACTIVITIES ARE GOING TO BE THERE'S DAILY OVERSIGHT BY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT CALLED HIM FIRE APPLE APPLICATIONS.
SO WE'LL HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT CONTINUALLY OUT THERE MONITORING TESTING, AND THEN COMPLIANCE WILL BE MEASURED BY ORANGE COUNTY HEALTHCARE AGENCY WITH, UM, SITE INSPECTIONS VISITS AS, AS, AS NEEDED DURING THE, DURING THE OPERATION.
UM, THERE IS, UH, WE WILL BE PREPARING A HUMAN HEALTH RISK ASSESSMENT PRIOR TO TOUCHING ANY OF THIS OIL FOR THE SOIL MANAGEMENT AND ASSESSMENT OF THE IMPACTS.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE SALES MANAGEMENT PORTION OF QUESTION I FINDING OILY SOIL.
SO IS IT CHARACTER AS CHARACTERIZE AS NON-HAZARDOUS OILY SOIL? UH, IT, WELL, IT'S NOT CAC IS IT IS NOT CATEGORIZED AS HAZARDOUS.
I, I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY NON-HAZARDOUS OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER CATEGORY UNTIL I WOULD GO LOOK IT UP.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT TESTING YOU DID ON THE CONTAMINATION? DID YOU DO LIKE A BIO FISH ASSET TEST? UH, I'M NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST, SO I D I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, I WOULD HESITATE TO VENTURE INTO THAT, THAT TERRITORY.
SO YOU COULDN'T SAY FOR SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE REGULATORY CLASSIFICATION OF OILY SOIL IS.
UH, NOW TURNING FROM THE FISCAL BENEFITS OF RANCHO LA BARBARA, WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FISCAL BENEFITS, UH, FOR THAT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE KUDA FROM DAVID HOUSING AND ASSOCIATES, AND HE'LL WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE FISCAL BENEFITS AND I'LL DO AS WELL.
THEY'LL DO SOME AS WELL AFTERWARDS.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, RIGHT? GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
A, UH, MY FIRM DTA IS A FINANCIAL CONSULTANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UH, THIS EVENING, I'LL BE TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, FISCAL BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THIS SLIDE YOU SEE UP, UH, ON YOUR SCREEN, UH, LOOKS BRIEFLY AT, UH, THE, UH, UH, BENEFITS TO, UH, SCHOOLS, ALTHOUGH THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY FACTOR IN YOUR DECISION TODAY.
UM, OPPONENTS HAVE SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, RANCHO HARBOR PROJECT WILL RESULT IN SCHOOL OVERCROWDING, UH, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, ALL THREE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO, UH, SUPPORT THE, UH, RANCHO LA HARBOR STUDENTS.
UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, THE LAHABRA, UH, CITY SCHOOL
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DISTRICT, UH, EXPERIENCED A 30% DROP IN ENROLLMENT SINCE ITS LAST PEAKS.UM, SO NEW STUDENTS, UH, FROM RANCHO LAHABRA WILL, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, CREATE A, UM, ADDITIONAL REVENUES, UH, MUCH NEEDED REVENUES, UH, FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS, UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY, AND LOOKING AT THE SLIDE, UH, RANGEL HARBOROUGH WILL, UH, GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION, UM, PER YEAR IN ADDITIONAL ONGOING REVENUES FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS.
UH, HALF OF THIS REVENUE WILL COME FROM DAILY ATTENDANCE, UM, THAT, UH, THOSE ARE REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE STATE AND, UH, THE OTHER HALF, UH, WILL, UH, COME FROM THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS SHARE OF THE PROPERTY TAXES, UM, THAT WILL BE, UH, RESULTING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RANCHO HARBOR PROJECT.
IN ADDITION, UH, TO THESE ONGOING REVENUES, UH, THE, UH, RANGEL HARBOR PROJECT WILL ALSO CREATE APPROXIMATELY $3.8 MILLION IN ONE TIME SCHOOL FEES, UH, BY STATE LAW, THE SCHOOL FEES ARE MEANT TO BE USED EITHER FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FACILITIES OR IMPROVEMENT OF EXISTING ONES.
UM, IN THIS CASE SINCE, UH, LOCAL SCHOOLS WILL NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BUILD NEW FACILITIES, UH, TO, UH, SUPPORT THE STUDENTS, UH, GENERATED BY THE RANCHO HUB OR PROJECT, UH, THESE, UH, DOLLARS CAN ACTUALLY BE USED TO IMPROVE EXISTING FACILITIES, WHICH WOULD, UH, OBVIOUSLY BENEFIT ALL THE STUDENTS WITHIN THE ENTIRE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, MOVING ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, HERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, FISCAL BENEFITS ACCRUING TO THE CITY.
UM, AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, UH, THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO CREATE, UH, $40 MILLION IN PUBLIC BENEFIT.
UH, MR. JONES, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT FIGURE.
UH, IN A LATER SLIDE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS MORE ON THE A ONE TIME AND ONGOING REVENUES FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, WE WORKED, UH, WITH THE CITY'S, UH, INDEPENDENT FISCAL CONSULTANT AND ACCORDING TO THEIR STUDY, UH, THEY PROJECTED THAT, UH, THE ARRANGER HARBOR PROJECT WOULD CREATE APPROXIMATELY $1.2 MILLION IN GROSS ANNUAL REVENUES TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
UH, AND I'LL, I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THE GROSS VERSUS NET, UM, SHORTLY, UH, BUT JUST AS A COMPARISON, UM, THE STUDY ALSO SHOWED THAT THE, UH, CURRENT SITE, THE GROSS REVENUES GENERATED FROM THE CURRENT SITE TODAY, UH, FOR THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND OR APPROXIMATELY, UH, $10,700 ANNUALLY TO THE CITY.
SO, UH, THE RANCHO HOVER PROJECT WOULD, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE, UH, THE REVENUES, UH, TO, UH, THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
AND, UM, AND BEFORE I, I TOUCH ON, UH, THE DETAILS ON THE FISCAL, UH, IMPACT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NUANCES, I DID WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE, UH, ONGOING REVENUES, UH, RANGER LAHABRA ALSO CREATES APPROXIMATELY $9.3 MILLION IN, UM, UH, PERMITTING AND PROCESSING FEES.
THOSE FEES ARE ONE TIME, UH, BUT THEY DO ACCRUE AS THE PROJECT DEVELOPS, UM, GETTING INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE, UH, FISCAL IMPACT.
UM, AS WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $1.2 MILLION IN GROSS REVENUES TO, UH, TO THE CITY, UM, IN LOOKING AT HOW THE CITY CURRENTLY SPENDS ITS GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
UH, THE FISCAL CONSULTANT, UH, FOR THE CITY ESTIMATED THAT, UH, THE, UH, CITY WOULD INCUR, UH, APPROXIMATELY 818,000 IN COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SERVICES PROVIDED TO RANCHO LAHABRA.
UH, THOSE COSTS WOULD INCLUDE, UM, UH, 383,000 AND POLICE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 230,000 AND FIRE, AND 204,000 IN, UH, OTHER SERVICES, UH, TAKING THESE COSTS INTO ACCOUNT THAT LEAVES THE NET OF APPROXIMATELY $353,000 PER YEAR
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IN NET GENERAL FUND REVENUES.UH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE WITH THIS FIGURE, UH, FIRSTLY IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, AND REVENUES THAT, UH, MAY BE GENERATED FROM, UM, ACTIVITIES AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE, UH, AMOUNT STATED ABOVE, UH, SECONDLY, UM, AS, UH, THE, THE PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, UH, ARE BASED ON HOW THE CITY CURRENTLY SPENDS HIS GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
UM, THIS OBVIOUSLY IS AT THE FULL DISCRETION OF THE CITY.
SO, UH, THE CITY DECIDES HOW GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE ALLOCATED.
AND, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, WHEN, UH, THE $1.2 MILLION IN GROSS REVENUES ARE GENERATED FOR THE PROJECT, THE CITY WILL DECIDE HOW TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.
UH, JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, UH, WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED.
I KNOW THAT WAS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCE GUYS AT THE CITY, THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE NEED FISCAL IMPACT, POSITIVE FISCAL IMPACT.
THIS NET GROSS IS KIND OF, WE ALWAYS SAY GROSS.
AND THE REASON IS RIGHT NOW, WHEN THE MONEY COMES IN, YOU SPEND IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO.
RIGHT NOW IT'S ALLOCATED CERTAIN PERCENTAGES TO CERTAIN CATEGORIES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A NEW POLICE STATION.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING NEW CITY HALL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HIRE NEW PEOPLE.
SO THAT MONEY IS COMING IN TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU COULD SPEND IT IN THE SAME PROPORTION AND THAT'S WHAT THE FISCAL IMPACT STUDIES DO.
THEY, THEY, THEY LOOK AT HOW IT'S BEING SPENT RIGHT NOW, AS WAS MENTIONED, THE COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT, BUT YOU HAVE THE MONEY THERE FOR IT.
THAT'S, WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, EXCUSE ME, IT'S HARD TO TALK WITH THIS FOR A LONG EXTENDED TIME, BUT THE CHANCE TO CATCH MY BREATH, UH, FISCAL LIMP, THE PUBLIC BENEFITS, WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS HERE.
SO WE'VE GOT THE PUBLIC BENEFITS.
THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH STAFF SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, MAY HAVE BEAMISH BROUGHT UP THE VALUE OF THE PARKLANDS, KIND OF THE VARIABLE.
IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU THINK IT IS.
I COULD GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT, BUT I'LL, I'LL LET IT GO FOR THE MOMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY.
SO IT'S $40 MILLION BETWEEN THE VALUE OF THE PARK, THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
AS I SAID EARLIER, WE WENT THROUGH AND REAL DETAILED CALL THAT SPEC LEVELS.
HOW BIG ARE THE TREES? HOW MANY TREES ARE THERE? WHAT EQUIPMENT DO WE HAVE? WHAT MODEL NUMBER, WHAT MODEL NUMBER IS THE CITY LIKE TO SEE? UM, IT'S THAT DETAILED? AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.
WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE ONETIME FISCAL BENEFITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE $9.3 MILLION.
THAT'S THINGS LIKE JUST CONNECTS A CONNECTION FEE FOR THE WATER DISTRICT.
THE WATER DISTRICTS NOT DOING ANYTHING, PAY A FEE, PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE.
WE HAVE THESE FACILITIES, YOU SHOULD DO IT, BUT THERE'S NO REALLY ADDITIONAL EXPENSES OUT THERE.
SO IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
AND THEN THERE'S WHAT WE TERMED A BUCKET OF.
THE ANNUAL FISCAL IMPACT IS HUGE AND I WOULDN'T KIND OF OVERSTATE IT.
IT'S THAT REVENUE STREAM THAT YOU GET THE IT CAN'T SPEND RIGHT UP FRONT.
IT JUST COMES IN YEAR AFTER YEAR, THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING.
SO AGAIN, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE ROUNDING UP TO A MILLION, TWO.
THERE'S OTHER REASONS WHY IT GETS UP TO THAT, BUT 1,000,002 FOR A YEAR, 10 YEARS, YOU'VE GOT $12 MILLION, $12 MILLION TO SPEND ON SOMETHING, NO OTHER PROJECT IN THE CITY, UNLESS THEY'RE LARGE CONDEMNED GENERATE THAT MAYBE A COSTCO COULD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THERE'S, COSTCO'S HERE AND WALMART SHARE ALREADY.
SO IT'S TOUGH TO KIND OF COME TO THAT THERE'S CAR DEALERSHIPS THAT COMES IN EVERY YEAR, OVER 20 YEARS, YOU TAKE YOUR PICK OUT HOW LONG THAT IS, BUT THE REALITY IS THOSE HOMES ARE THERE ONCE THEY'RE BUILT THAT PROPERTY TAX COMES IN EVERY YEAR.
SO TO US, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND SHOULDN'T BE OVERLOOKED.
SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC BENEFITS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME WAS IS THE PROPERTY PAYING ITS FAIR SHARE.
THAT'S UH, AGAIN, THAT'S PERSPECTIVE.
UM, WHAT WE DID WAS JUST LOOK AT THE LAST TWO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS.
WHAT ARE THE BUCKETS ARE? YOU CAN HAVE A DEBATE ON WHAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO SPEND IT, BUT WE'RE GENERATING OVER $90,000 A HOME.
DIDN'T REALLY MENTION, BUT YOU NEVER SEE A PROJECT THAT'S GIVING THAT TYPE OF BENEFIT FOR 450 HOMES.
IT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT.
THE OTHER PROJECTS, YOU HAVE A PRETTY TYPICAL, IT'S MAYBE 13 TO $10,000.
SO THIS PROJECT, WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR OR NOT, FOR US, WE THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION AND WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT.
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ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN GO BACK THERE FOR A SECOND.UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE MENTIONED WITH STAFF OVER THE YEARS WAS IS THIS THE RIGHT MIX? UM, I WAS INVOLVED AT THE BEGINNING ON THIS.
I HEARD ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE WANTED A STEAKHOUSE.
SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED COMMERCIAL.
UM, SOMEBODY WANTED AFFORDABLE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IMPACTS AND THEY'RE ALL PLUSES AND MINUSES.
UM, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
COUNCIL, DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THOSE WITH US.
WE JUST KIND OF GET THE INPUT FROM WHAT WE HEAR.
AND THEN THE COLLABORATION PART THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, EXCUSE ME, THE COLLABORATION PART THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS GET THE INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT.
WE THINK WE'RE HEARING WHAT WE'RE HEARING, BUT, UH, THAT, THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT.
WE THOUGHT THEY WANTED ALL THE, FROM THE COLLABORATIVE.
AS FAR AS THE PARK, WE WENT IN DEEP, WE WENT IN REALLY DEEP.
WE COULD HAVE BUILT HOMES VERY EASILY UP ALONG THAT SPINE THAT YOU SAW AS THE PROMENADE.
IF WE BUILT DETACHED HOMES, THE PROPERTY BE WORTH A LOT MORE.
THAT'S WHY THE PARKLAND IS WORTH VALUE IS WORTH MONEY.
WE COULD BUILD LESS ATTACHED, MORE DETACHED, PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND DETACHED HOMES ARE WORTH A LOT MORE THAN ATTACHED TO THEM.
IF WE BUILD MORE HIGHER END HOUSES THAN ATTACHED, BUT WE WERE TOLD WE WANTED TO HAVE A MIX HERE.
THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MIX.
UM, STAFF CAN KIND OF BACK UP.
I HAD SOME MEETINGS DURING THE LAST YEAR, BEFORE THE COVID HITTER, EVEN KIND OF AFTER THAT'S WHAT TOOK SO LONG FOR A WHILE, BUT I SAID, THIS IS THE CITY REALLY WANT THIS TYPE OF BENEFIT PACKAGE.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, I I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM WHAT IT WAS.
SO WE WENT ALL IN ON THE, ON THE BENEFITS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER KID'S WATER PARK.
I LOVE SEEING MY KIDS WORK ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE CITY'S BUILDING WINNERS HAS WON, UM, THINGS LIKE, HEY, WE NEED EXTRA SHADES.
WE NEED MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT PAT MURPHY AND SAID, WHY DON'T YOU THINK, WHAT DO WE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? HE SAID, IT'S UP TO YOU.
BUT I SAID, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING THEY WANT.
AND SO WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE COST OF THE PARKS TRAILS, UNDOUBTEDLY FOR HOME BUILDER, FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT ORANGE COUNTY, SEE CONSISTENTLY WHETHER EXISTING HOMES OR NOT TRAILS OR JUST THINGS THAT PEOPLE LOVE EVERY TIME YOU SEE A NICE TRAIL, A COOL TRAIL WITH VIEWS, IT IS USED IT'S, IT'S JUST PHENOMENAL BENEFITS.
SO AGAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPENT THAT WAY.
IF SOMEBODY ELSE THINKS, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY ON THE PARKS.
WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS.
MAYBE, MAYBE WE WANT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR SORTS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHATEVER IT IS.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AFTER LISTENING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING OUR FAIR SHARE, WE'RE CHEAP.
WE'RE DOING TWICE WHAT ANYBODY'S EVER DONE IT FOR TROUBLE, BUT IF WE WANT SOMETHING ELSE, WE'RE OPEN TO IT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO.
IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE LESS ON THE PARKS, MARTA, AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSISTED ON HAVING THAT READY.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAD RIGHT AT THE END THERE.
SO WE CAN GET DIRECTION TO SPEND IT AS THE COUNCIL SEES FIT.
BUT AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, YOU'RE GETTING 1,000,002 A YEAR IN GROSS REVENUES THAT COULD BE SPENT WHERE YOU ARE.
WE'RE NOT HIRING NEW STAFF AT CITY.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING A NEW CITY HALL.
THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY THERE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AND MAYBE CLARIFY, HOPEFULLY THAT CLARIFIES WHAT WE OFFERED EARLIER ON WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID.
AND IT'S SINCERE AGAIN, $90,000 A HOME IS JUST, IT'S A MASSIVE AMOUNT.
SO, UH, THE QUAN FAMILIES WERE CORRECT AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I HAD SOME DIFFICULT MEETINGS WITH THEM ON, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
THIS IS WHAT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE.
AND I'M LOOKING THERE AT THE REPRESENTATIVES AND HAVING THAT HARD CONVERSATION WITH THEM THAT THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS HERE.
IT'S A LOT OF BENEFITS AND IT COMES OUT OF THE LAND VALUE.
SO, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAPPENED OVER SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PROCESS, BUT EVERYBODY FELT THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THEY WANTED.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.
UM, THAT'S THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
WE WERE SURPRISED TO HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS TO THE PONDS COMPLAINED THAT RANCHO LA BARBARA, THE PROJECT WILL MAKE IT HARDER TO FIND PARKING SPACES AT LOCAL RETAILERS.
THAT'S A TOUGH ONE FOR US TO REPLY TO.
WE WOULD THINK WE WOULD WANT, ESPECIALLY TODAY, WE WOULD WANT LOCAL BUSINESSES TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
OF COURSE, COSTCO, WALMART TRADER JOE'S.
THOSE ARE GONNA BE PACKED NO MATTER WHAT EVERYWHERE ELSE YOU LOOK, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
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IT'S HARD.I'M SURE YOU KNOW, SHOPS HERE.
THAT'S NOT THOSE PARKING LOTS ARE FILLED UP.
THE RESTAURANTS AREN'T FILLED UP.
SO SUPPORTING THAT IS PART OF THE COMMITMENT AND WE THINK IS IMPORTANT.
AND THAT'S WHY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS COME OUT AND SAID, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.
WE WANT THE LIFESTYLE AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEMBERS.
YOU HAVE A LETTER IN YOUR PACKET FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
THEIR BYLAWS DON'T ALLOW THEM TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING.
THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF DIFFICULT FEEDBACK FOR THEM WHEN THEY GO PUBLIC.
SO I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION.
FRED'S REPORT, BUT THEY'RE ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS.
OUR FAMILIES WILL BECOME REGULAR CUSTOMERS FOR LABA, FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS, UM, IT'S NEEDED.
AND WITH OUR PROJECT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
THERE'S OVER 1400 CONSTRUCTION JOBS JOBS.
WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY POLITICIANS AND OTHER, THE JOBS THAT THE HOME BUILDING INDUSTRY BRINGS IS CRITICAL IN THE ECONOMY TODAY.
YOU'VE ALL SEEN A KIND OF NATIONALLY 1400 JOBS.
IT'S SIGNIFICANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND A LOT OF THESE LOCAL TRADES.
I KNOW SOME OF OUR TRADES, OUR SUBCONTRACTORS ARE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.
UM, IT DOES MEAN SOMETHING TO THEM IN CONTRAST THE GOLF COURSE, THEY REALLY IT'S GREAT.
IT'S HAD AT STATE JUST DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THAT MUCH OF ENERGY OR IMPACT ON THE CITY.
IT'S A, IT'S A GOLF COURSE THAT THEY CAN'T RUN THEIR BANQUETS ON AND THAT'S THEIR.
SO ANYWAY, NEXT ON HERE IS OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE MOST HEARD ABOUT ALL OF US WHO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.
FIRST THING I NOTICED, ACTUALLY IT WASN'T AS BAD FROM WHERE I WAS IN CHICAGO DOWNTOWN, BUT, UM, TRAFFIC IS SOMETHING EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND EVERYBODY HAS A THAT'S ONE THING THAT UNITES US ALL IS WE'D LIKE LESS AND LESS TRAFFIC.
UM, WE PUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT AND TIME AND ENERGY INTO THIS TRAFFIC AND WHAT WE'RE GENERATING.
AND IT'S BEEN INTENSELY STUDIED FOR OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE STUDIES, NOT JUST BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, BY THE CITY STAFF, CALTRANS, CS, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO GO INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS.
AND I HELP THESE THING AT THE HIGH LEVEL.
I'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THAT AT THE END.
UM, RICH BURRATA FROM LLG ENGINEERING IS A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
I'D LIKE HIM TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, UH, WHAT'S IN RDR STUDY AND WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BEAMISH UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, RICH PARETO PRINCIPAL WITH L L G ENGINEERS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, SINCE THE BEGINNING.
SO WE'RE WELL FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE COME UP, UH, DURING THE BEGINNING AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, TRAFFIC IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CONCERN.
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
IT'S UNAVOIDABLE, IT'S UNDENIABLE, BUT IT, IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A, A NIGHTMARE, A GRIDLOCK.
UM, YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE CLAIMS OUT THERE IS THAT THE PROJECT PRESENTED WOULD GENERATE JUST OVER 6,100 DAILY TRIPS, BUT THE PROJECT AS PRESENTED TONIGHT REALLY ONLY WOULD FOCUS TO ABOUT 4,300 DAILY TRIPS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE PLANNING AREA FIVE, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, UH, IS AWKWARD TO LOOK TO, IT'D BE DEVELOPED WITH, WITH HOMES INSTEAD OF THE COMMERCIAL UNIT, UM, UH, RANCHO, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE WOULD ONLY REALLY GENERATE AROUND 4,300 DAILY TRIPS WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO, UM, THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, THE REASON THEY WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE IS THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT WITH WOULD RESULT IN 2200 ADDITIONAL TRIP TRIPS, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL IMPACTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECT WOULD LIKE TO AVOID GIVEN THE CONCERN.
UH, THEY WANT TO AVOID THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND I THINK THE STAFF REPORT MAY HAVE MENTIONED THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS PART OF THE PROJECT BEING HEARD TONIGHT IS ONLY REALLY FOCUSES TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, UH, AND NOT THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT FROM THAT SLIDE UP THERE, YOU COULD SEE THAT THE, UM, OF THOSE 4,300 TRIPS OR 4,800 TRIPS GROWS, UH, THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT WOULD GENERATE, UM, JUST OVER FOUR, FOUR, UH, 3,600 DEALER TRIPS WHERE THE PARK, WHICH WAS A BIG COMPONENT OF THIS WOULD GENERATE ON A DAILY BASIS, JUST OVER 800 DAILY TRIPS.
UM, I GUESS TO PUT THE PROJECT IN SOME TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE, FROM A TRIP GENERATION STANDPOINT, PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF COMPARE IT IS TO A GROCERY STORE.
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UH, AS I HAD MENTIONED, UM, EARLIER, THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT JUST OVER 4,300 DAILY TRIPS, THE PROJECT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, WHICH THE CITY WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE NORTH GATE MARKET ON WHITTIER BOULEVARD.THAT'S ABOUT 45,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IT'S A, IT'S A VERY POPULAR STORE.
IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THAT AREA LOOKS LIKE.
AND AGAIN, FOCUSING TO THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OR THE GROCERY STORE COMPONENT, UM, OF THAT ENTIRE CENTER THERE.
SO FROM A PERSPECTIVE, GIVING YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, THE PROJECT IN ITSELF WOULD GENERATE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT GROCERY STORE WOULD PROVIDE.
UH, WE WORKED ON BOTH THE, THAT STUDY WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THAT, TO ASSESS THE IMPACTS OF THAT PROJECT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN THIS CASE, WHERE WE WORKED REALLY CLOSE WITH THE CITY STAFF, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ISSUES THAT CAME ABOUT FROM THE PREPARATION OF THE STAT TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, DISCLOSED APPROPRIATELY AND SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, YOU GET A SENSE OF TRAFFIC AROUND A GROCERY STORE, UM, THAT PROJECT THAT RESULTED GRIDLOCK.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SAME CASE HERE WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND IT'S DESIGNED BEING DISPERSED TO, UM, WITH TRAFFIC BEING DISPERSED TO MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS WOULD NOT RESULT IN GRIDLOCK IN ITSELF FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, I THINK, UH, GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, I THINK ROY MIGHT'VE, ROY RAMBLING MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS, UM, UH, FROM A PART OF HIS EARLIER PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PROJECT HAS LOOKED AT IS TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC ON, UH, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ADJACENT THOROUGHFARES THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING TO THE SITE IS DISPERSED PROPERLY AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF BEACH BOULEVARD IN PARALLEL AT HIGHWAY, UH, ACCESS POINTS.
AND TO SOME EXTENT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ALONG IDAHO.
UH, THE PROJECT AS MENTIONED EARLIER ARE PRETTY MUCH GATED COMMUNITIES, SO THAT ELIMINATES ANY TYPE OF POTENTIAL CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.
UH, YOU REALLY CAN'T GO FROM ONE END OF THE SITE TO THE OTHER TO GET ACROSS THE SIDE AS EACH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE GATED.
UM, STARTING WITH THE, UH, UH, PLANNING AIR FOUR IN LIGHT BLUE.
AND THIS IS I THINK, UM, 82 HOMES, UM, ACCESS POINT WOULD BE DIRECTLY OFF IDAHO AND THAT SHOULD GIVE SOME, UM, REALLY PROVIDE SOME RELIEF OF CONCERN TO THE, UH, ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD AS ONLY 82 OF THOSE HOMES WOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS THROUGH, UH, IDAHO, UH, RELATIVE TO PLANNING AREA THREE, UH, THE 80 HOMES THERE.
UM, THOSE, THOSE HOMES DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT CONNECTIVITY TO IDAHO.
THEY COULD ONLY BE ESSENTIALLY HAD NORTH TO, UH, LA HARBOR HILLS DRIVE AND ENTER AND EXIT OFF THE IMPERIAL HIGHWAY.
AND AGAIN, DISPERSING TRAFFIC TO MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS THERE.
UH, PLANNING AREA TWO, UH, IN YELLOW HAS 115 HOMES AND THEY COULD EITHER GO DOWN, UH, LAHABRA HILLS DRIVE OR PROCEED, UH, TO GET TO APPAREL OR PROCEED WEST TO GET TO BEACH BOULEVARD.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE ONE ON THE DARK BLUE WOULD HAVE ACCESS DIRECTLY OFF BEACH BOULEVARD, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HAS A CARRYING CAPACITY OF OVER 60,000 DAILY TRIPS PER DAY, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, AND THIS WAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DISPERSING AMTRAKS AND PROPER SITE PLANNING, UH, WE TENT, UH, THE PROJECT ALLOWS US, IT ALLOWS THE ABILITY TO KIND OF MOVE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE SITE WITHOUT OVERLY IMPACTING ONE LOCATION AT ONE TIME, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO AGAIN, ACCESS OF IDAHO.
AND AGAIN, THE PROJECT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AS BEACH BOULEVARD AND IMPERIAL HIGHWAY TO CARRY THEIR TRAFFIC.
UM, I THINK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, I THINK ONE STATEMENT CAME FROM COMMISSIONER POWELL THAT MAYBE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND IT NOT BEING A, AN ISSUE OF, OF THE PROJECT, BUT REALLY REGIONAL ACCESS REDUCED TRAFFIC WOULD BEACH BOULEVARD BEING A STATE ROUTED IMPERIAL HIGHWAY THAT ESSENTIALLY TRAVERSES THE ENTIRE CITY.
UH, THE ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE GOING FOR US IS THAT, UH, THE PROJECT CAN MITIGATE ITS NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS BY SITE DESIGN AND AS IDENTIFIED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I GUESS ONE ISSUE THAT CAME UP THAT I WOULD SAY I'D HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH IS THAT, UM, FROM THE OFFICES AND IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN AND AROUND THE AREA RESULTS IN MORE CONGESTION, MORE DELAYS, ET CETERA, AND THAT YOU WOULD EXPERIENCE, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT OR COMMENTS ABOUT IT TAKING OVER FIVE TIMES TO GET TRAVEL UP AND DOWN BEACH BOULEVARD.
WELL, IN THIS LETTER PROVIDED BY CALTRANS, UM, IT'S, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE PART OF THE PACKET.
IT WAS PART OF THE COMMENT PACKET THAT WAS PROVIDED.
THEY DISCUSSED TRAFFIC VOLUMES ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD CORRIDOR, WHICH ESSENTIALLY HAS REMAINED STAGNANT OVER THE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, UM, EVEN WITH DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT'S HAPPENING VOLUMES HAVE NOT GROWN EXPONENTIALLY AS WHAT WE NORMALLY
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WOULD DO WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH TENDS TO BE REALLY CONSERVATIVE FROM THAT STANDPOINT TO DISCLOSE AS MUCH IMPACTS, UH, AND INFORMATION TO THE DECISION MAKERS WHEN THEY'RE REVIEWING THE TRAFFIC STUDY.UM, SO WHEN IT TALKS, WHEN IT COMES TO MITIGATING TRAFFIC IMPACTS, ONE THING THAT REALLY HELPS THE PROPERTY IS THE LOCATION, WHICH IS A LONG BEACH IMPERIAL, BOTH MAJOR STATE ROUTES AND IDAHO.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE YOU WOULD CONSIDER PLACING NEW HOMES AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYBE A YEAR, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PLACE A LONG CORRIDORS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC TRAVELING THROUGH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND CAUSING CONGESTION WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, UH, IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT FOR THE PROJECT HERE FROM AN ACCESS STANDPOINT TO GET TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH THAT, UM, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WOULDN'T EXPERIENCE ANY CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS MR. PARADA.
UM, IS YOUR COMPANY, THE AGENCY, THE COMPANY THAT DOES SEND UPS PACKAGE TO, TO MY ADDRESS? I, I BELIEVE YOUR NAME WAS ON ONE OF THE LETTERS ARE ON THE ENVELOPE ITSELF.
I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT THAT I DID RECEIVE SOMETHING FROM UPS.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVED SOMETHING THIS WEEK, UH, WITH LETTERS ENCLOSED IN ITS, UH, FROM, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS YOURS.
I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE PACKAGE ANYWAY.
I'M JUST GONNA STAY HERE IN TRAFFIC FOR A SECOND.
HE'S AGAIN, TRAFFIC IS EMOTIONAL FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS RIGHT OR WRONG, I'M JUST GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING OUT THERE IS BASICALLY IF, IF THE HOME IS BUILT IN, LAHABRA ALMOST FOR SURE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO CARS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS.
THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE.
SO TO US, THE KIND OF A COMMENT WAS, YEAH, TRAFFIC INCREASES BY 4,400 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU SAW 900 OR THAT ALMOST WAS JUST FROM THE PUBLIC PARK.
SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF THIS IS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
AND FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO USE THE RECOMMENDED KNEES AT FAMILY PICNICS AND SUCH.
SO THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING WE CAN AVOID IF WE WANTED A PARK, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD WE DID.
IF WE WANTED A COMMUNITY CENTER, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TRAFFIC ON THAT.
SO IT'S AN, THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING WE CAN DO IN THE WORLD THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOME IMPACT ON SOMETHING.
THEN THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THE WAY I'VE LOOKED AT IT AGAIN, RIGHT OR WRONG.
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE ARENA.
I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION WITH CITY MANAGERS.
I KNOW WHAT THE GUIDELINE IS TO YOU.
UM, MY GUESS WOULD BE MY STRONG FEELING WILL BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME HOUSES BUILT IN LAHABRA AND THE NEXT YOU'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A STUDY NEXT YEAR.
IT'S IT HAS TIME TO GET BUILT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THIS STUDY AND CERTIFIED.
I KNOW THE LAST REGIONAL HOUSING ELEMENT HAD 1100 HOMES, RIGHT AROUND CITY HALL DIDN'T GET BUILT, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS DECIDED TO GO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE IT WASN'T BUILT, BUT IT GOT DISPERSED OUT.
BUT IN GENERAL, IF SOMEBODY LIVES IN LAHABRA, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE 57 FREEWAY, WHETHER THEY'RE IN WESTRIDGE, WHETHER THEY'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN TOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE 57 FREEWAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COOL SHOPS RIGHT AROUND THIS LOCATION.
UM, WALKABILITY IS THE OTHER GREAT THING THAT, UM, HOME BUYERS WANT.
THIS HAS THE MOST WALKABILITY, I THINK, LOCATION OF ANYWHERE IN HUBBARD, PERSONALLY, SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS.
I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO RESTAURANTS THAT ARE KIND OF HERE, GET ON THE BIKE ELECTRIC BIKES THAT EVERYBODY HAS.
IT'S PRETTY COOL AND PRETTY FUN.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO.
SO TO ME AGAIN, THE ONLY WAY TO NOT HAVE TRAFFIC IN MY MIND IS IF YOU DON'T BUILD ANYTHING, I KNOW, I KNOW CITY, I KNOW OVER THE YEARS, I'VE HEARD WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE WOULD BE BUILT HERE.
IF IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, I'VE HEARD COMMERCIAL.
I HEARD OTHER THINGS LIKE, WOW, THOSE ARE TRAFFIC.
THOSE REALLY GENERATE TRAFFIC AS A GOOD LUCK ON THAT.
WE, AS A COMPANY, TRIED OUR BEST TO, UM, I TRIED FOR THREE YEARS TO GET COMMERCIAL COMPONENT IN.
ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC.
I TRIED FOR THREE YEARS TO GET A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT IN THERE.
EVERYBODY SAID BEACHED AND IMPERIAL LOVE IT.
WHEN THEY HEARD WHAT THE ACCESS WAS, IT WAS CLICK.
WE TRIED FOR TRADER JOE'S FOR TWO YEARS.
THEY ENDED UP GOING WHERE THEY DID REALLY CLOSE BY, BUT THEY WERE NOT COMING HERE.
SO WE TRIED, UM, TRAFFIC IS A BIG IMPACT.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT RESIDENTIAL THERE INSTEAD OF COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
SO UNLESS NOTHING GETS BUILT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC IN LA HARBOR.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, PRAY OR FULTON.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THE RENA NUMBERS ARE FOR THEIR BLOWN, A PARK, SOMEBODY
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GOING TO BUILD SOMEWHERE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE HOMES THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TRAFFIC.SO FOR US, IT WAS, LET'S BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
I KNOW THAT THE FUTURE, THEY SMALL PROJECTS, THEY DON'T HAVE SEQUENCE CONTEXT.
THEY DON'T GENERATE MONEY RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE PUTTING IN MONEY INTO FUNDED ADDRESS TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH CALTRANS AND THE NEIGHBORING CITIES.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH BRENNA PARKER, OTHER IT'S GOING TO COME UP.
UM, AGAIN, IF IT DOESN'T GET BUILT, THERE'S NO MECHANISM.
WE DON'T WANT THE MONEY, ANY MONEY WE PUT IN FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION, IT'S UP TO THE CITY TO HAVE.
IF CERTAIN ITEMS DON'T GET BUILT THAT ARE IN THE MITIGATION PROGRAM.
IT IS EMOTIONAL, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO AVOID TRAFFIC UNLESS YOU THINK WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING.
THEY BUILD A HOUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS.
AND AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID, I'D RATHER HAVE THIS THAN DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT'S RIGHT UP ALONG THE MAJOR ARTERIALS.
AND IT'S DISPERSED OUT THREE WAYS, NOT JUST IN ONE LITTLE PUBLIC LOCATION.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ENOUGH ON TRAFFIC.
SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THEN WE GET INTO THE WEST RIDGE HOA CONCERNS.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS FUNDING, THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THEIR PLAN.
WE KNOW MOST OF THE OPPOSITION COMES FROM A PROJECT, COMES THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE UNDERSTAND I GET IT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD PREFER A GOLF COURSE.
WHEN I MET WITH, I WAS IN THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH, UH, WITH THE HOMEOWNERS, I DID MENTION TO THEM, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THERE'S JUST, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE MONEY FOREVER.
AND THEY WERE LOSING MONEY BACK THEN.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THINGS GOING ON.
I SAID, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RUN THAT GOLF COURSE AND LOSE MONEY FOREVER.
SO WITH THAT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO COME TO THIS PROPERTY.
HOPEFULLY WE THINK WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN.
WE THINK WE'VE DRESSED SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
THAT'S JUST A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT BE CONSIDERED CERTAINLY ON, WE MET WITH THE OWNERS AND EXTENDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ENGAGE, TO HELP WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
BUT IF SOMETHING I JUST MENTIONED, SOMETHING'S GOING TO COME.
SO INSTEAD OF THIS, OR WORKING WITH THE CITY, THEIR OPPOSITION HAS LED TO A SOPHISTICATED SIX FIGURE CAMPAIGN FUNDED BY THE WEST RIDGE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, OTHER DISCLOSURES.
SO THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN SPENT FOR ATTORNEYS AND POLITICAL CONSULTANTS TO RUN A CAMPAIGN.
AGAIN, I DON'T LIKE THE TOXIC, THE UNFUNDED SCHOOLS COMMENTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUT THERE.
AND I DOUBT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO.
LIKE I MENTIONED ON THE TRAFFIC, THAT'LL EXPLAIN AND SATISFY THE GROUP, BUT NONETHELESS, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONCERNS THAT WOULD AFFECT THE WESTBRIDGE RESONANCE.
AND ONE OF THOSE ARE VIEWS WHEN IT COMES TO VIEWS, THERE'S A DISCLOSURE LANGUAGE.
ALL WESTERN RESIDENTS HAD TO SIGN WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES.
THE LANGUAGE IS UP THERE BEFORE YOU, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT JUST SAYS THERE'S NO RIGHT TO INTEREST OR UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S PRETTY RARE IN ORANGE COUNTY, UM, THAT YOU'RE SIGNING SOMETHING ON AN HOA.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S THERE.
THEY HAVE TO SIGN IT WHEN THEY BUY THEIR HOUSE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S RECORDED AGAINST TITLE.
SO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT USE IT'S OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW.
SO IT IS ADDRESSED DESPITE THAT WE TOOK GREAT PAINS TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE COULD THAT LONG PROMENADE SPY SIP, WE WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU'RE TRADING PARK GOLF COURSE VIEWS FOR PARK VIEWS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT WHOLE LONG SPINE OF RESIDENTS THERE WHAT'D YOU SEE ON THERE AS THE EIR TOOK GREAT PAINS TO LOOK AT A VIEW, SIMULATIONS WERE 80 TO 100 FEET ABOVE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS ON MOST OF THE HOMES.
SO 80 TO A HUNDRED FEET GRADE SEPARATION, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A HOME RIGHT UP AGAINST THEIR HOME IN THE BACKYARD.
UM, IT DOES CHANGE FROM GOLF COURSE TO SOME TREES AND SOME LANDSCAPING, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THOSE FANTASTIC LAQUINTA CITY VIEWS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T BUILD AGAIN, THE SCALE MODEL THAT SHOULD JUST SHOW THE GRADE SEPARATION TO SO WHAT YOU COULD HAVE, BUT, UM, WE TOOK EVERY PAIN WE COULD TO ACCOMMODATE AGAIN, ALL THE DIFFERENT CONCERNS, ALL THE DIFFERENT WANTS OF THE CITIES, EVEN THE ADJACENCIES NEXT DOOR WITH THE, WITH THE VIEWS.
SO AGAIN, AS OUR GOAL TO PRESERVE THOSE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT NOT EVERYBODY IN THE WEST RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD SEE IT'S THE SHARES.
THE POSITION OF THE HOA IS EXAMPLE.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A VIDEO THAT COMES FROM A WESTBRIDGE HOMEOWNER.
IT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT DUE TO CONCERNS ON, UH, THE RISK OF EXPOSURE.
I LIVE AT 2040 SOUTH LITTLER COURT IN THE GATED COMMUNITY OF WESTRIDGE.
I RISE TONIGHT TO OFFER MY WHOLE HARVEST SUPPORT FOR THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT AND THE FAMILY WHOSE PROPERTY IS IMPACTED.
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AND TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST OR AFFILIATION IN THE PROJECT WHATSOEVER.FRANKLY, I AM ASHAMED OF MY HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND ITS ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO CREATE THE OPPOSITION TO RANCHO HOMBRE.
THEY HAVE NOT ALWAYS DONE SO HONORABLY.
IN FACT, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY HAVE RAISED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS THROUGH DO'S ASSESSMENTS TO FIGHT THIS PROJECT BY MISLEADING THE RESIDENTS OF WESTRIDGE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT'S POTENTIAL IMPACT AND ABOUT THEIR CHANCES OF PREVAILING IN THEIR QUEST TO STOP THE PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING TRAFFIC, PRESERVING OPEN SPACES OR ANY OF THE OTHER CLAIMS THE HOA HAS MISREPRESENTED.
IT IS HOWEVER ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT ARE A BEDROCK OF AMERICAN CULTURE, TRADITION AND LAW.
IT IS MY BELIEF THAT IF ANY OF THE FELLOW HOMEOWNERS WERE SUBJECTED TO THESE TYPES OF INCENDIARY COMMENTS OR RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY, THEY WOULD BE OUTRAGED HERE IN AMERICA.
NO ONE LIKES TO BE TOLD WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY OR LIVES.
AND RIGHTLY SO, WE HAVE A LONG STANDING TRADITION IN THIS COUNTRY THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY IS A SANCTUARY BY WHICH OUR CAPITALISTIC ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS DRIVEN.
THIS IS NOT A SOCIETY OR ECONOMY WHERE PROPERTY IS EQUALLY OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE POPULATION AT LARGE OR OUR GOVERNMENT.
IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE WOULD BE A SOCIALIZED OR MARXIST SOCIETY.
I SAY ALL OF THAT, NOT ONLY TO REMIND YOU, BUT TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, FRANKLY, EACH HOMEOWNER IN RIDGE SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT 20 YEARS AGO, THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS WERE UPHELD HERE IN THE CITY OF LAHABRA SO THAT THEIR HOMES, MY HOME COULD BE BUILT.
THE VERY HOMES WE LIVE IN NOW, HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET, WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILIES COMING BEHIND US WHO NEED HOUSING HERE IN LAHABRA? SO THEY CAN ALSO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF HOME OWNERSHIP.
IN MY OPINION, WE DESPERATELY NEED THESE HOMES AND THE AMENITIES, THE ENTIRE PROJECT BRINGS HOW DARE WE SUGGEST THAT THIS SHOULD BE STOPPED? WHO ARE WE TO SAY SUCH A THING? ARE WE REALLY THAT ARROGANT OR ONE-SIDED IN SHORT, WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES FOR OPPOSING THIS.
INSTEAD, WE SHOULD OFFER OUR INPUT TO MAKE IT A BETTER PROJECT.
I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE THESE COMMENTS HEAVYWEIGHT WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY VOTE ON IT.
AND I BELIEVE THE ONLY FAIR AND THOUGHTFUL VOTE IS A YES.
WELL, I SPOKE OF MISPERCEPTIONS.
I SPOKE OF AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT JUST DON'T WANT US TO BUILD FOR WHATEVER THEIR REASONS ARE.
I THINK MR. ROSS COMMENTS ARE STRONG AND I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE THEM WITH GREAT WEIGHT.
UM, ALONG WITH THE COMMENTS OF THE KWAN FAMILY, SINCE FILING THE APPLICATION WITH THE CITY IN 2015, OH, SORRY.
SINCE FILING THE APPLICATION WITH THE CITY IN 2015, UH, WE HAVE EARNESTLY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE SPOKEN TO CIVIC GROUPS LIKE THE ROTARY, UH, WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, PARTICIPATED IN COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE THE CITRUS FAIR AND THE CORN FESTIVAL.
UH, WE COMMUNICATED THROUGH MULTIPLE WEBSITES, LETTERS TO NEIGHBORS, BUSINESSES, OTHERS.
WE WALKED COMMUNITIES, WE SHOOK HANDS AND WE GAVE FACTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT.
THE NAMES THAT YOU SEE UP ON THIS SCREEN REPRESENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUPPORT, UM, SUPPORT FOR RANCHO LAHABRA, UM, ADMIRATION FOR WORKING WITH LYNNORA AS A PARTNER, UM, AN INTEREST IN CORRECTING OPPOSITION MISSTATEMENTS, UM, COMES FROM NEAR AND FAR, UH, ON THE TOP LEFT YOU'RE POLICE ASSOCIATION.
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YOU'RE A FORMER STATE SENATOR, BOTH SUBMITTED VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.THE POLICE ASSOCIATIONS LETTER IN PARTICULAR RELAYED, UM, IN THEIR LETTER QUOTE, STRONG AND UNWAVERING SUPPORT AND QUOTE FOR RANCHO LA HABRA AND CALLED THE PROJECT AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN FOR THE CITY.
WE AGREE SENATOR HUFF, AFTER POINTING OUT THE MANY BENEFITS WE HAVE COVERED IN ADDING HIS CONCERN THAT SACRAMENTO IS INCREASINGLY TAKING LOCAL CONTROL AWAY FROM CITIES CONCLUDED THAT QUOTE, GIVEN ALL THE FACTS, THIS DECISION TO APPROVE RANCHO LA HABRA, SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT END QUOTE UNITED LATINOS VOTE HAS AMONG ITS OBJECTIVE IS TO PROMOTE FINANCIAL WEALTH THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP, TO ELIMINATE INCOME INEQUALITY IN CALIFORNIA.
THEIR LETTER SAYS TO YOU, QUOTE, WE URGE YOU TO VOTE, TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT AND HELP SHAPE A POSITIVE FUTURE FOR CALIFORNIANS AND QUOTE NEXT TO THE ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL AND THE NORTH ORANGE COUNTY CHAMBER, BOTH ENDORSING THE PROJECT, YOUR OWN LAHABRA CHAMBER HAS BYLAWS PROVISION.
IT PRECLUDES THEM FROM TAKING A POSITION ON RANCHO LA HABRA, BUT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, A LETTER SIGNED BY A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER WHO ARE NOT CITY REPRESENTATIVES STATING THEIR STRONG SUPPORT IN THE MIDDLE ROW.
THE ORANGE COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS OUR PROJECT.
CITY IS GETTING A VALUABLE BENEFIT.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE FOR YOU HERE TONIGHT, AND IT DOES NOT COST YOUR TAXPAYERS ANY MONEY.
THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, CALIFORNIA, COMMUNITY BUILDERS, MANUFACTURED, HOUSING, EDUCATIONAL TRUST, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION AND THE ORANGE COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, ALL SUPPORT RANCHO LAHABRA.
THEY ALL HAVE AN AWARENESS THAT THERE IS A TO CURE A CRITICAL HOUSING SHORTFALL IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN THE BOTTOM ROW WHO MADE AMERICA AND HOMEMADE ORANGE COUNTY, AS WELL AS HIS HOUSE IN PLACENTIA.
UM, THEY DON'T ENDORSE PROJECTS, BUT THEY ARE FOLKS.
YOU WON'T FIND THAT IN THE NEWSPAPERS, YOU WON'T FIND THAT ON OUR WEBSITES.
WE DON'T PUBLICIZE THAT WORK, BUT WE WORK WITH THEM FREQUENTLY AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THEY WILL ALL SPEAK OF THE HIGHEST STEAM THAT THEY HAVE FOR WORKING WITH LAMAR.
AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT A FULLERTON JOINT UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CALTRANS TAKE NO POSITION ON THE PROJECT, BUT THEY BOTH WROTE YOU TO COUNTER THIS MISINFORMATION THAT KEEPS BEING SPREAD, UH, THAT HELPS TO GENERATE, UM, THE OPPOSITION, UH, STILL AS WE GO OUT.
AND, UH, AND, AND LOOK AT, UM, MORE STATEMENTS LIKE I'M DESCRIBING WHO WHOLE, WHOLE FAULT FALSEHOODS ABOUT OVERCROWDING, UM, OVERSTATING TRAFFIC IMPACTS, WHICH HOPEFULLY HERE TONIGHT, OUR EXPERTS HAVE HELPED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND CLARIFY, GIVE YOU ACTUAL FACTS.
AND STILL WE HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT QUOTE, EVERYONE IS AGAINST RANCHO LAHABRA END QUOTE.
OUR OUTREACH TELLS US THAT IS NOT TRUE WHEN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY HEARD IT, THEY WANTED TO LOOK INTO IT.
THEY WERE CURIOUS ABOUT ALL OF THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE HOME HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION HERE AND, UM, AND HOW THEY HAVE GONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN, INTO THIS, UH, OPPOSITION.
AND SO TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY FOUND, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP STEVE LAMOTT.
HE'S THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE ORANGE COUNTY CHAPTER OF THE BUILDING ASSOCIATION.
AND STEVE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A POWERPOINT THAT I SUBMITTED THERE.
SO AS, AS A, AS JEREMY MENTIONED, STEVE LAMONT BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY CHAPTER.
UM, WHAT I WANT TO DO FIRST IS TALK ABOUT THE STATE OF HOUSING VERY BRIEFLY.
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THIS.I'M GOING TO GET VERY NONTECHNICAL HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE STATE OF HOUSING, BIG PICTURE POPULATION GROWTH DECREASE IN GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
DEMAND IS HIGH PRICES ARE HIGH.
WE HAVE DWINDLING LAND HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY AND BEYOND WE HAVE A NOT IN MY BACKYARD SEDIMENT SAYING WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE HOUSING IN OUR AREA.
WE HAVE HIGH FEES THAT OUT OF THE COST OF HOUSING, WE HAVE A DIFFICULT POLITICAL LAND.
DO YOU GUYS KNOW FULL WELL? YOU'RE BEING PULLED IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
EVERYONE WANTS THEIR PARKING, BUT THAT TAKES AWAY FROM UNITS.
WE'RE LOSING MILLENNIALS AND THERE'S A LABOR SHORTAGE IN THE HOUSING INDUSTRY GOING INTO THIS PANDEMIC.
SO ORANGE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY.
CAUSE I DO HAVE A VIDEO AT THE END, AS I SAID, CHILD POPULATION SHRINKING 30 TO 44 YEAR OLD POPULATION IS SHRINKING 65 AND OLDER POPULATION HAS INCREASED BY 62%.
OUR JOBS, THE HOUSING BALANCE IS OFF WE'RE 58,000 UNITS SHORT HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
THE MINIMUM INCOME TO AFFORD A HOME PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC WAS $162,000 PER YEAR.
THE AVERAGE OSI INCOME, $86,000 PER YEAR.
THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC WAS $730,000 ORANGE COUNTY REGISTERED, JUST PUT THAT NUMBER AT $800,000.
SO THAT MEANS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PRICES THAT YOU'VE HEARD PRIOR TO MY CONVERSATION MEANS THESE ARE ATTAINABLE HOUSING UNITS, NEXT SIDE, PLEASE.
SO I TALKED A LITTLE BIT THAT TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE BIGGER PICTURE ISSUES, BUT GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOME'S PLAN IS 3.5 MILLION HOMES BY 2025 THAT'S 500,000 UNITS PER YEAR.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT? AND THE ANSWER IS WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
IF WE LOOK AT THIS CHART UP HERE IN THE EIGHTIES AND IN THE SIXTIES, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OVER 300,000 AND THEN IF WE LOOK AT 2018, COMPARED TO 2019, WE ARE GOING DOWN TOTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION WAS DOWN BY 7%.
CALIFORNIA IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, SUPPLY AND HOUSING PRODUCTION.
IF YOU LOOK AT ORANGE COUNTY MORE SPECIFICALLY FROM 2016 TO 2019, WE ARE DOWN 19% HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
PERMITS PULLED FOR ORANGE COUNTY HOMES, 2020 TO 2019 COMPARING JANUARY TO MAY.
WE'RE DOWN 26% HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
ORANGE COUNTY IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
SO WE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DID PUBLIC OUTREACH HAS BEEN SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, THEIR GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S UNQUANTIFIABLE.
THE OPPOSITION IS USING SCARE TACTICS, HIGH DENSITY, LOSING OPEN SPACE.
WE WERE TOLD THAT MOST RESIDENTS OPPOSED THIS PROJECT.
SO WHAT DID WE DO? WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
WE DISPATCH PETITION GATHERERS.
WE CONDUCTED FOCUS GROUPS, RESIDENT DIRECT MAIL, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THIS PROJECT.
I WALKED PERSONALLY WITH, UH, WITH INFORMATION, THE PROJECT.
SO WHAT DO WE KNOW? SEVERAL RESIDENTS CLAIM THROUGH THE FOCUS GROUPS AND IN SPEAKING WITH RESIDENTS THAT THEY WERE MISLED MISINFORMED AND KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
RESIDENTS HEARD THAT THIS PROJECT WAS BAD.
THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE UNAWARE OF THE GOLF COURSE WAS CLOSING OR THAT THEY WERE LOSING ACTUAL.
THEY WERE LOSING, UH, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE LOSING OPEN SPACE.
WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NOT LOSING PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AND THIS PROJECT DOES HAVE SUPPORT WHEN THE FACTS ARE SHARED.
AND SO FEEDBACK RANGE FROM THIS PROJECT WOULD IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY THAT TRAFFIC MITIGATION WAS ACCEPTABLE.
NEW HOUSING INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES IN A GOOD WAY.
AND OF COURSE THE PARK IS ACTUAL USABLE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, AND THIS OF COURSE WOULD HELP THE ECONOMY.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENED? THOSE BOXES RIGHT OVER THERE IN THE SIDE OF THE ROOM, UH, HOLD 10,000 PLUS SUPPORT SIGNATURES FROM LA HARBOR RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE PUT THEIR ADDRESSES ON THE MAP TO SHOW THAT THIS IS BROAD SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TAKE, UH, ADDRESSES THAT WERE NOT IN LAHABRA AND JUST INCLUDE LAHABRA ADDRESSES.
YOU SAW THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND OF COURSE, UH, MULTIPLE PEOPLE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, WHETHER IT WAS BECAUSE OF COVID, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PUBLICLY SPEAK, BUT WE DO HAVE SUPPORT VIDEO TESTIMONY THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE HER NEXT.
AND IF YOU CAN, HI, MY NAME IS RACHEL ADELA AND I CURRENTLY LIVE IN LA HABRA.
I FEEL THAT THE HOPPER NEEDS TO BE SHARED WITH, I THINK WE NEED MORE HOUSES TO BE BUILT.
I THINK WE NEED TO INVITE MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TO SHARE IT WITH, UM, WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
WE NEED TO SHARE WITH OUR RESIDENTS HERE.
WE NEED TO HAVE NEW NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT RICHARD.
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YEAH, MY NAME'S ROB LIL ROCK.AND ORIGINALLY I WAS AGAINST RANCHO HARBOR.
THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT'S GOING TO BE A THOUSAND NEW HOMES AND APARTMENTS.
AND I FOUND THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT WAY.
IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 400 AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT.
MY NAME IS
I'M TERESA HARVEY, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF NORTH ORANGE COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND I'M PLEASED TO SUPPORT BENTO HOMBRE, WHETHER YOU OWN OR RENT.
MOST OF THE GREEK HOUSING IN ORANGE COUNTY IS EXPENSIVE.
IN FACT, WE LIVE IN ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSING MARKETS IN THE STATE, AND INDEED THE NATION, A HOUSING MARKET IS CRITICAL TO THE LONGTERM SUCCESS OF OUR REGION.
OUR CHAMBER JOINS OTHER BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS IN SUPPORTING A RANGE OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN BUSINESSES IN THIS REGION.
IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE MEET THE NEEDS TO HOUSE.
THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE, TO WORK OR TO RECREATE HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY, RANCHO LA HABRA PRESENTS A BALANCED APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING HOUSING WHILE MAINTAINING OPEN SPACE FOR PUBLIC USE, NOT RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO PAY TO SEE THE VISTAS AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED SUPPORT.
RIGHT? MY NAME IS SAM
LAHABRA AS WELL AS A BUSINESS OWNER.
I'M IN FAVOR OF RANCHO LA HARBOR, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BRING PROPERTY TAXES FOR OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS OFFERING US A LOCAL PARK, AS WELL AS US SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
HI, I'M CHRISTIAN WOLF AND I'M SUPPORTING RANCHO LA OPERA PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF SOUL.
UM, AND THIS COULD REALLY BE THE HEARTBEAT IN ALL MY YEARS IN THE HARBOR.
THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING MISSING.
AND I THINK, UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT RANCHO LAHABRA IS BRINGING TO THIS PROJECT IS JUST WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.
MY NAME IS CHRISTIE WYAN I'M WITH MARK PLAN INSURANCE AGENCY.
I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS HERE IN THE HARBOR FOR 22 YEARS, AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE RANCHO LA HOVER PROJECT, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IT'S GOING TO BRING ADDED PROPERTY VALUE TO THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY UP THERE AND ALSO THE OPEN SPACE AND THE TRAILS THAT ARE CLOSE TO MY HEART BECAUSE I'M AN OUTDOOR KIND OF FITNESS PERSON, AND I KNOW I'LL BE USING IT.
AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL BENEFIT FROM IT.
HI, MY NAME IS PAUL AND I SUPPORT THE RANCHO, THE HARBOR PROJECT.
IT WILL BRING A LOT MORE HAVING TO US YOUNG FOLKS LIKE MYSELF, AND IT WILL BOOST OUR LITTLE HARVARD ECONOMY.
HI, I'M GINA SCOTT AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR HOMEMADE ORANGE COUNTY, A NONPROFIT WITH THE MISSION TO END HOMELESSNESS THAT WAS STARTED IN 1989.
AND OUR HOMES HAS BEEN A PARTNER OF OURS FOR ALL 30 YEARS OF OUR EXISTENCE.
THEY HAVE HELPED US MOST RECENTLY DEVELOP A 48 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING FOR FOSTER YOUTH.
THEY'VE HELPED US COLLECT MILLIONS OF DIAPERS FOR FAMILIES, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH SMALL CHILDREN, AND THEY'VE HELPED TO BE A BUILDER CAPTAIN AND RENOVATE MANY HOUSING PROJECTS OR HOMELESS, PREGNANT WOMEN, FAMILIES, AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR HOMES WOULD BE GREAT FOR ANY COMMUNITY.
HI, MY NAME'S LISA AND I SUPPORT RANCHO HOBBIT FOR TWO REASONS.
PRIMARILY THE FIRST THING I LOVE THE IDEA OF OPEN SPACE.
THE SECOND THING I LOVE THE IDEA OF LIMITING HIGH DENSITY.
HELLO, MY NAME IS QUANTITY OF MARPLAN INSURANCE AGENCY HERE LOCATED IN LAHABRA CALIFORNIA.
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SERVING THE COMMUNITY SINCE 2007, UNDERSTANDING THE PROJECT OF LENNAR PROPERTIES, UH, UH, DEVELOPING HOMES IN THE OLD OR THE CURRENT WESTBRIDGE PROPERTIES.
I KNOW ONE THING THAT IT WILL ADD VALUE TO IT WILL CREATE OPEN SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO WHERE CURRENTLY IT IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NEGLECT.
IT MAY DETERIORATE FURTHERMORE, IT WILL GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEIR MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO IN ALL, IT LOOKS LIKE A WIN, WIN SITUATION.
TO ME BENEFITING NOT JUST THE CITY OF LA HABRA, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
MY NAME IS SCOTT LARSEN AND I'M THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR HOMEMADE AMERICA.
HOMEMADE ITS MISSION IS TO END HOMELESSNESS THROUGH HOUSING, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ADVOCACY.
WE'RE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, BERNARD HAS BEEN A CRITICAL PARTNER IN HOMEMADE HIS WORK, NOT ONLY IN ORANGE COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT NOW HAS PARTICIPATED IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS TO END HOMELESSNESS.
AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS, RANGING FROM EMERGENCY SHELTERS ALL THE WAY THROUGH PERMANENT HOUSING, YOU'VE BEEN A CRITICAL BUILDER CAPTAIN FOR US ON KEY IMPORTANT PROJECTS FOR FOSTER YOUTH, FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AS WELL
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AS HER FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS, EVERY COMMUNITY WHEREAND WE COULDN'T BE MORE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WEBINAR'S DONE, NOT ONLY WITH US, BUT THROUGH US, THE IMPACT COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
MY NAME IS JEWISH AND I AM A RESIDENT AT NINE FIVE ONE SOUTH IDAHO STREET, AND LAHABRA BEHIND RICO SENTIMENTS.
I ALSO WORK WITH TEENAGERS AND MOJABE, SO I'M QUITE INVESTED IN THE CURRENT AND FUTURE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CITY, THE LA HABRA TEAMS THAT I WORK WITH.
THEY SPEAK WISTFULLY ABOUT LIVING AND SUDDENLY DOWN IN LAHABRA AFTER COLLEGE OR AFTER THEY GET JOBS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SAD THING IS THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THEM UNLESS WE SLOWLY START TO MAKE CHANGES AND PAVE THE WAY FOR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
UM, NOT ONLY IN THE CITY, BUT IN, IN ORANGE COUNTY AND IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, I'M GIVING THEM A STATEMENT TO ASK THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE.
LAHABRA HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE, AND I AM HERE WITH RANCH LA HOMBRE, AND THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING ME ALL ABOUT THEIR PROJECT.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF KNOWING THAT I'M GOING TO GROW UP IN A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE SO MANY HOMES GOING TO BE OPEN, WHERE I CAN SOMEDAY DO THE AMERICAN DREAM AND OWN A HOME
SO YOU'VE HAD QUITE SOME TIME HERE.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH LONGER YOU'RE GOING TO BE YOUR CLOSING? LET'S DO THE LAMONT.
COULD I ASK A QUESTION TO MR. LAMONT? UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PETITION GATHERERS.
UH, SO I RANDOMLY, YOU KNOW, I WONDERED AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CANDIDATE FORUM, I HAD SAID THAT, UH, THERE WAS ONLY THREE QUESTIONS ASKED AND THEY HAD YES OR NO, YES OR NO.
YES OR NO, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION.
SO THERE WAS A FEW OF THEM THAT WERE FROM MY STREET, THE ADDRESSES, AND I THOUGHT, I'LL GO LOCALLY TO MY STREET AND, AND TALK TO THESE INDIVIDUALS.
SO I WENT TO ONE ADDRESS, UM, WHICH WERE THE PARK CORONA PARK.
I GO, THERE'S NO ONE LIVING HERE WHO WERE USING THIS ADDRESS, NUMBER FOUR FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THEN THE OTHER ADDRESS WAS MY ADDRESS AND IT HAD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON'S NAME.
AND I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THAT PERSON LIVING IN MY HOME.
SO I KEPT GOING DOWN THE STREET AND I KEPT KNOCKING AT THE DOORS OF THOSE ADDRESSES.
AND EVERY SINGLE NUMBER ON MY STREET WAS NOT THE PERSON THAT SIGNED THAT CARD.
UM, SO NO ONE THAT SIGNED THOSE CARDS THAT LIVE ON MY STREET WHERE THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHOSE NAMES THEY'RE PUTTING ON THESE ADDRESSES, BUT THESE ADDRESSES DID NOT BELONG TO THE PERSON THAT SIGNED THAT CARD.
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TOMORROW AND RANDOMLY PICK SOME MORE AND SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT.
BUT ALL THE ONES ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, UH, WERE INCORRECT.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE GATHERING THEM OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH OR WHAT, BUT THAT WAS THE CASE FOR ME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE THAT LIST.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDRESSES ARE IN LAHABRA.
AND OF COURSE WE ARE COLLECTING THESE AS ANY CAMPAIGN IS COLLECTING SIGNATURES, WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE A, YOU KNOW, A LOWE'S OR A TARGET, UM, PER, PER THE RULES AND, AND PER THE GUIDELINES.
SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE WOULD LIKE THAT LIST.
ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL, ALONG THE SAME LINES, I HAD GOTTEN INQUIRIES FROM RESIDENTS IN REFERENCE, UH, UH, THESE, UH, THESE, UH, THESE LISTS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED THEM.
WAS THERE ANY WAY OF AUTHENTICATING THE NAMES? UH, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, IF WE'RE, IF WE ARE AUTHENTICATING THE NAMES PER SE, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST VERIFYING THE ADDRESSES THEN OF COURSE, UH, SUBMITTING THEM TO THE CITY AND, AND IN ALL FAIRNESS TO YOU, OF COURSE, BUT, UH, BUT IT WAS OF GRAVE CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER WHO IS IN COLLEGE, HER NAME AND MY ADDRESS WAS ON ONE, UH, WHEN, UH, WHEN, WHEN ASHTRAY, YOU KNOW, GOOD FOR YOU, SHE GOES, DAD, SHE WAS GOING TO CALL HIM TONIGHT IF IT WAS POSSIBLE, BUT SHE GOES, DAD, SHE GOES, THAT'S NOT MY SIGNATURE.
I SAID, BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEBODY PUT HER NAME IN OUR ADDRESS WAS OF GRAVE CONCERN TO ME, UH, THAT SHE DID NOT SIGN IT.
I'VE GOT A COPY OF IT, BUT, UH, UM, AGAIN, IN ALL FAIRNESS
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TO YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHO GATHERED THESE FOR YOU.UH, BUT, UH, MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE AND YOU WERE JUST GIVING SOME FALSE, NO, IT'S GOING TO BE FALSE INFORMATION.
WE WOULD LIKE THOSE LISTS, WE WERE UP TO ABOUT 11,000, 12,000 SIGNATURES ORIGINALLY.
AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE DOWN TO ALMOST 10,000 NOW DOING OUR BEST TO AUTHENTICATE AS WELL AS REMOVING NON LAHABRA RESIDENCE.
OH, THEN I HAVE A QUESTION WHERE PAID SIGNATURE GATHERS.
SOME WERE SOME WERE NOT CORRECT.
WHEN YOU SAY SOME, HOW MANY, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS HERE.
CAN YOU GET THAT FOR US? WE CAN GET THAT.
AND WHY WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN PAID? I'M SORRY.
WHY WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN PAID TO DO THE JOB OF COLLECTING SIGNATURES? JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CAMPAIGN WOULD JUST LIKE DOOR KNOCKERS COULD FOR, FOR A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, UH, AS WELL AS AGAIN, COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR A PROPOSITION OR EVEN A MEASURE.
OH, NOW I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION.
THEN IT WASN'T PEOPLE WERE BEING PAID FOR THEIR SIGNATURES.
THE SIGNATURE GATHERS WERE THE SIGNATURE GATHERERS ARE PAID.
YOU ARE NOT PAID FOR A SIGNATURE.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE? I WOULD JUST LIKE A FEW MINUTES TO CLOSE OUT, PLEASE.
I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND THE PATIENTS TONIGHT, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LONG ROAD AS WELL.
UH, IT'S A COMPLEX PROJECT, AND ALTHOUGH MAYBE THERE IS SOME ISSUE YOU HAVE FOUND, UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
WE, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD TO GO AND DO THAT IF WE WERE NOT COMBATING THIS WHOLE ENTIRE TIME, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY FALSE HOODS AND MISSTATEMENTS THAT WERE BEING MADE TO PEOPLE, MANY OF WHOM ARE WEARING T-SHIRTS AND HERE TO PROTEST THIS ACTION.
I MENTIONED TO YOU AT THE BEGINNING, I HAVE ZONED FOR THOUSANDS OF HOMES.
I'VE WORKED FOR LEONARD FOR 22 YEARS.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT LEONARA IS THAT THEY ALWAYS LET US DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT REASON.
SO THERE IS NO NEFARIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS FOR MY TEAM HERE.
THERE'S JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO BUILD THE BEST COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN AND GIVE YOU THE FACTS SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
AND, UM, AND I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE.
AND I HOPE THAT IF YOU SEE CLEAR TO VOTE YES, FOR THIS PROJECT, YOU'LL SEE, UH, WE WILL BE OUTSTANDING MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND THIS COMMUNITY CAN BE A CROWN JEWEL FOR LAHABRA.
UM, BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT THE BENEFITS.
AND ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SIGNATURES OR, YOU KNOW, PETITIONS, YOU HAVE SEEN VIDEO EVIDENCE FROM ACTUAL LAHABRA RESIDENTS, SOME OF WHOM LIVE IN THE HOA, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN IN THEIR MINDS TREATED UNFAIRLY, BUT I ALSO REALLY WANT TO REMIND YOU, AS I CLOSE OUT ABOUT MRS. KWANS VIDEO, HOW THEY'VE BEEN TREATED AND, UM, AN UNDERSTANDING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S BEEN INTEGRITY IN THIS PROCESS FROM MY ENTIRE TEAM.
I THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THESE ARE COMPLEX MATTERS.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME I APPRECIATE THE PATIENTS.
UM, I GUESS I'LL CLOSE BY JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HERE AND AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ARE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE, UM, IT'LL BE MY NAME ON THAT AGREEMENT.
AND IN THAT AGREEMENT, THERE ARE SOME BIG PROMISES.
THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANTIAL STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN, TAKEN, UM, BY THE DEVELOPER, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WITH ALL SINCERITY THAT I WILL MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
UH, IT IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN WITH INTEGRITY AND WE WILL CLOSE IT OUT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
AND SO WITH THAT, I THANK YOU.
I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND, UH, ALL OF THE EFFORT, I THINK STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORT.
WE'VE GOT THE ENTIRE TEAM ON STANDBY.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS GOING FORWARD.
SORRY FOR EVERYBODY OUTSIDE WAITING THAT DID TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME IT IS 10 O'CLOCK.
AS I STATED IN THE RULES EARLIER, WE LOOK LIKE WE WILL END AT 10 30, SO IT GIVES US A HALF HOUR TO START WITH THOSE SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME IN TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT TO SPEAK TO THIS.
SO THE STAFF WOULD CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE OUT THERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND SPEAK AND SUPPORTIVE AND SEE HOW LONG THEY THINK THEY MAY TALK BECAUSE WE'LL, WE'LL END AT 10 30 AND KIND OF TIME IT.
SO SOME OF THEM STAY IN LINE AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO TALK RIGHT AT THE DOOR.
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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AND LINED UP? OKAY.WHERE IS THE MONEY WASTING TIME.
THE WILD LNR GUY IS SITTING THERE.
SO ON YOUR WALKING TRAIL GOES FROM ONE END TO ANOTHER.
IS THERE A THOUGHT OF PUTTING IT AS A LOOP? WE'RE TRYING TO STICK WITH A GOLF COURSE.
WE WERE TRYING TO STICK WITH A GOLF COURSE PATH AND THEN UP THROUGH THE PARK, WE HAD NUMEROUS LITTLE INS THERE, BUT LOOPING IT, UM, I KNOW WE HAD OUR POINTS FOR THE PARKING.
WE COULD CERTAINLY DO WHATEVER PATH THAT MAKES SENSE THAT THE VOIDS, THE HABITAT AREA OR THE, UH, DRAINAGE FACILITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANYTHING.
AND YOUR VALUE TO THE CITY ON THE PROPERTY.
DOES THAT VALUE INCLUDE THE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTED AREA THAT IS NOT ANY USE TO THE CITY? WELL, NO.
YOU DIDN'T COUNT THAT IN TOWARDS THE 40 MILLION? NO, I DON'T.
UH, THE OPEN SPACE IS DILATED A VERY SMALL NUMBER.
CAN YOU, UM, DO YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER? I DON'T NEED IT TONIGHT.
I CAN GET BACK HERE TOMORROW IN YOUR HEAD.
AND IS OUR SPEAKER HERE YET? THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR THEMES I SHOULD.
WHAT'S THAT FIRST THREE OR FOUR HAVE SAID THERE ARE ABOUT TWO TO THREE MINUTES EACH.
UH, MAYOR BEAMISH, UH, THE, UH, CONSERVATION AREA WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WAS NOT GOING TO DEED THAT TO THE CITY AND THE CITY DIDN'T WANT TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF IT.
IT'S A BETTER SITUATION TO HAVE A CONSERVANCY, UH, OWN AND OFTEN THAT SIGN.
SO WE'LL GET AS MANY SPEAKERS IN AS WE CAN TO 10 30.
SO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF HOW LONG THEY WANT TO TALK.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF CUT THE LINE OFF WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE AND THEN COUNCIL WILL DECIDE WHAT TIME THE, WHEN THE MEET AGAIN.
SO WE NEED TO GO, WHERE IS SOMEBODY? SURE, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ROBERT APODACA AND I REPRESENT THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SENT LETTERS TO YOU.
THAT'S CALIFORNIA, COMMUNITY BUILDERS, UNITED LATINOS VOTE, AND CALIFORNIA INFILL FEDERATION.
WE ARE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP AND HOUSING PRODUCTION IN CALIFORNIA FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
AND WE RARELY IF EVER COME OUT TO A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, BUT WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IT WAS GOING TO DO, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TONIGHT, JUST TO ABOUT THE OVERALL PROGRAM, I WAS SO IMPRESSED THAT I'M GLAD THAT I FLEW INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA YESTERDAY TO BE HERE AND SUPPORTIVE IT.
AND I THINK THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY WILL BE IMPRESSED.
IT'S GOING TO WIN SO MANY AWARDS AT THE GOLDEN NUGGETS CEREMONY.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WONDERFUL, BUT I WANT TO START OFF MY PRESENTATION ASKING YOU A QUESTION, AND THAT IS SHOULD HOMEOWNERS FROM A GATED COMMUNITY SITE, WHETHER 443 FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN CAN BECOME HOMEOWNERS IN LAHABRA.
NOW I KNOW THAT THOSE HOMEOWNERS AREN'T GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
YOU WILL MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT THEY'RE TRYING VERY HARD.
AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT INFLUENCE YOUR DECISION CHILDREN DESERVE THE RIGHT TO GROW UP IN A COMFORTABLE HOME, IN A SAFE AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PARKS AND OTHER AMENITIES.
THERE, THERE ARE SO MANY AMENITIES IN THIS PROJECT.
THIS WOULD BE THE ENVY OF EVERY URBAN INFILL PLANNER, EVERY ENVIRONMENTALIST, EVERY OPEN SPACE ADVOCATE YOU.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THE CITY IS GOING TO GET, THE SCHOOLS
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ARE GOING TO GET IT'S AMAZING.THAT'S HOW AMAZING IT IS IN CASE YOU DIDN'T READ OR SEE THE NEWS ON TV.
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SACRAMENTO DID DURING THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT VERY LITTLE TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, AND INCREASE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS HOUSING HAS BEEN CALIFORNIA'S BIGGEST CRISIS FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, PROBABLY FOR AT LEAST 10.
AND IT HAS AFFECTED MANY OF US, THE INABILITY OF, TO CONSTRUCT NEW HOMES AND APARTMENTS HAS LED TO HIGHER PRICES.
FEWER HOME-OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, OVERCROWDING INCREASE, INCREASED POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, GRANDPARENTS WHO WILL NOT SEE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE THEY MOVED OUT OF CALIFORNIA, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, FRIENDS OR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LOST THEIR HOMES DURING THE GREAT RECESSION AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO BUY A HOME.
SINCE THEN, I KNOW SUCH FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.
IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO BOUNCE BACK.
SADLY, CALIFORNIA HAS A HIGHEST POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS RATE IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY THINK OF THE GOLDEN STATE, THE HIGHEST POVERTY RATE, THE HIGHEST HOMELESSNESS RATE.
AND NOW COVID-19 PANDEMIC HAS CREATED UNIMAGINABLE HEALTH, RISK COST, TOO MANY DEATHS, ECONOMIC DISRUPTION THAT IS AFFECTING EVERYONE.
THE HOUSING CRISIS IS WORSE NOW, BUT YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, UH, YOU IN THE CITY OF LA HARBOR CAN CONTRIBUTE TO A PARTIAL SOLUTION.
THE 443 HOUSING UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT CREATES HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
FOR FIRST TIME, HOME BUYERS, INCLUDING MANY YOUNG FAMILIES WHO WANT TO ACHIEVE AND LIVE THE CALIFORNIA DREAM OF HOMEOWNERSHIP.
I'LL CONCLUDE BY MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT THE ETHNIC POPULATION OF THE CITY HOME OWNERSHIP FOR LATINOS WAS NOT WIDELY POSSIBLE UNTIL 70 YEARS AGO, WE FACED NUMEROUS FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION.
NOW KNOWN AS RED LINING BANKS WOULD NOT MAKE MORTGAGE LOANS TO LATINO FAMILIES AND HOME SELLERS COULD NOT SELL TO ETHNIC MINORITIES.
ALSO CITIES CREATED ZONING LAWS THAT BAN THE CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOMES.
RED LINING IS STILL BEING PRACTICED IN 2020.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING OF THE PAST.
I URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT.
LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS ERICA CAPO AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED, EXCUSE ME, PRESIDENT OF THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION HERE IN THE CITY OF LAVA, REPRESENTING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY WITH PRIDE.
I'VE BEEN A POLICE OFFICER HERE IN THE HARBOR FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS.
AND IN ADDITION, I GREW UP IN THIS AREA AND I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT STILL LIVE HERE.
SO I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING THE CITY SUCCEED AND REMAIN A CARING COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE ASSOCIATION, I SUBMITTED A DETAILED LETTER OUTLINING THE MANY REASONS THAT WE, AS AN ASSOCIATION ARE STANDING IN SUPPORT OF THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT.
SOME OF THE MANY REASONS WE STAND IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS LAND IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE OWNER IS EXPRESSLY STATED HER DESIRE TO SELL THIS PROPERTY.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE HEARD A VARIETY OF DEVELOPMENT IDEAS FOR THIS PROJECT.
MOST OF WHICH WERE HIGHER DENSITY, BUT WOULD NOT BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OR WOULD UNNECESSARILY BURDEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT PROVIDES FOR NOT ONLY A LOWER DENSITY PLAN FOR PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED PARK SPACE AND TRAILS FOR THE USE OF ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.
THIS PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED REVENUE TO THE CITY AT A TIME WHEN OUR MEMBERS AND INDEED ALL CITY EMPLOYEES ARE IN DURING FURLOUGH HOURS AND PAY CUTS.
THESE FURLOUGH HOURS ARE HOURS WHEN THERE ARE SIMPLY LESS POLICE EMPLOYEES AVAILABLE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A DIRECT IMPACT OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT CAN ONLY HELP ALLEVIATE MY FEAR AND THE FEAR OF THE RANK AND FILE MEMBERS THAT I REPRESENT IS THAT LEFT UNDEVELOPED.
THIS PROPERTY WILL BECOME A FIRE HAZARD AND A HAVEN FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE'VE ALL SEEN OTHER UNDEVELOPED AREAS IN THE CITY FALL TO DISARRAY DISREPAIR AND BECOME DANGEROUS EYESORES.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE AN AREA AS LARGE AS THE WESTBRIDGE PROJECTS SUFFER THE SAME FATE.
WE, THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE ASSOCIATION VIEW THE RANCHO HOVER PROJECT AS THE MOST ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND RESPONSIBLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, TO SERVE ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.
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GOOD EVENING.HONORABLE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS KEN JACKSON AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE KWAN FAMILY AS AN ADVISOR FOR THE BETTER PART OF 10 YEARS.
I COME TO YOU TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
UM, THE VIDEO THAT YOU SAW EARLIER WAS REAL.
UH, FOR FEAR, THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE VOCAL NATURE OF THE OPPOSITION AND HOW AGGRESSIVE IT HAS BEEN IN COMING AFTER WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THEIR FAIR AND RIGHTFUL ACTION.
AS THE OWNERS OF A PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT ALSO HAPPENS THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED PROPERTY ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS NOW.
AND WE'VE WATCHED THE COYOTE HILLS GET DEVELOPED OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND NOTHING HAPPENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL, BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO THE BENEFIT OF THE GREATER NEIGHBORHOOD.
I GUESS I'M JUST A BELIEVER THAT THE LOUD AREN'T ALWAYS RIGHT.
SOMETIMES THE QUIET ARE IN THE RIGHT AND THIS FAMILY, THEY NEED YOUR HELP.
AND I'M ONLY HERE TO ASK IF YOU CAN DO THE RIGHT THING, BOTH FOR THE CITY OF LAHABRA AND THE FAMILY.
AND IF WE COULD HAVE THE OPPOSITION TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE, THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KEN JACKSON, KEN, THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH HANSBERGER.
I REPRESENT PEOPLE FOR HOUSING, ORANGE COUNTY OR A NONPROFIT GRASSROOTS ADVOCACY GROUP.
I USED TO LIVE IN THE HOPPER WHEN I FIRST GOT MARRIED.
MY HUSBAND IS A GRADUATE OF SONORA HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WENT TO WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE ENDED UP LIVING IN FULLERTON BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE'S A TEACHER I'M REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BUY HOMES IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.
SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SHARE A QUOTE WITH YOU.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HEARD ON A ACTUALLY ON AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED MERCY SHIPS.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GO TO THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AND THEY BRING SURGEONS TO FIX THINGS IN OF PEOPLE'S BODIES, LIKE CLEFT PALATE OR DISFIGURING THINGS.
SO I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SEEM RELEVANT, BUT HANG IN THERE WITH ME.
THE DOCTOR SAID FOR HOPE TO BE CREDIBLE IN THE FUTURE, IT HAS TO BE TANGIBLE IN THE PRESENT FOR HOPE TO BE CREDIBLE IN THE FUTURE.
IT HAS TO BE TANGIBLE IN THE PRESENT.
THERE ARE MANY REASONS THAT I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY YOU SHOULD APPROVE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT.
I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT WILL BE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY DURING A TIME WHEN CITY REVENUES ARE DROPPING, I COULD TALK ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE, THE PARK, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THE TRAILS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO LIVES REALLY IN ORANGE COUNTY, IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE DRIVE.
BUT CERTAINLY IN THE CITY OF LAHABRA, WHICH ITSELF HAS A PARK POOR COMMUNITY.
I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS THAT WILL COME NOT JUST FROM THE PROJECT, BUT ALSO FROM THE STATE FORMULA, BECAUSE ENROLLMENT DETERMINES YOUR SCHOOL FUNDING.
THE MONEY FOLLOWS THE KID AND EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ORANGE COUNTY HAS DECLINING ENROLLMENT.
SO THE NEW FAMILIES THAT WOULD MOVE THERE WOULD NOT ONLY, THEY WOULD BRING FUNDING WITH THEM FROM THE STATE, IN ADDITION TO THE MONEY THAT THE DEVELOPERS FOR D PER SORRY, PROVIDING.
AND THEN THE LAST REASON I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, WHICH IS THAT THE OWNER WISHES TO CHANGE THE USE, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT PUBLICLY OWNED LAND, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THOSE REASONS.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE THEME THAT I STARTED WITH.
THE REGION THAT YOU SHOULD APPROVE THIS PROJECT IS BECAUSE FOR TOO LONG, WE IN CALIFORNIA HAVE SAID NO TO NEW HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND PRICES HAVE CONTINUED TO CLIMB.
THE CUMULATIVE SUM OF ALL THOSE NOS IS THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
AND IT'S REFLECTED IN THE RENA NUMBERS THAT WE GOT FROM SCAG.
THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT ARE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY HAVE HOMES IN LAHABRA.
SO WE'RE REALLY ASKING PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE HOUSING.
THE QUESTION, DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING?
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THEY SAY NO, BUT I THINK IF YOU ASK PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE, YOUNG FAMILIES WHO WANT TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOME IN ORANGE COUNTY AND IN LAHABRA THAT YOU WOULD GET A DIFFERENT ANSWER.SO I AM ASKING YOU TO CHOOSE DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER COUNCILS AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE LISTENED TO NIMBYISM OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS AND HAVE ROBBED THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
I'M ASKING YOU TO BE THAT TANGIBLE HOPE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER, THAT WE CAN END THE HOUSING SHORTAGE AND SOLVE THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
AGAIN, FOR HOPE TO BE CREDIBLE IN THE FUTURE.
IT HAS TO BE TANGIBLE IN THE PRESENT.
PLEASE BE THAT VOICE OF HOPE THAT THIS CAN GET BETTER, THAT WE WON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING SHORTAGE, WHICH LEADS TO THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
WE HAVE 15 MINUTES THAT YOU'RE KEEPING TRACK OF.
WHO'S HOW MUCH TIME THEY WANT TO TAKE EVENING.
MAYOR COUNCIL AND STAFF, ADAM WOOD, WITH THE BUILDING INDUSTRY LEGAL DEFENSE FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT TONIGHT.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I ALSO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE SHOCKING SIMILARITIES HOUSING PROJECT SHARE ACROSS THE REGION.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE A PROPOSAL FOR CHANGE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE MET BY OPPOSITION.
SOMEHOW THE TACTICS OF OPPONENTS ARE CONSISTENTLY SIMILAR.
WE SEE THE MATCHING SHIRTS, CHANTING THREATS, AND CLAIMS THAT POLLUTION, TRAFFIC AND DENSITY ARE GOING TO BE SOMEHOW UNIQUELY CATASTROPHIC TO THE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY.
IN QUESTION, IT'S ALL SURPRISINGLY STANDARD ISSUE FOR THESE REASONS.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS ENACTED THE VERY TOUGHEST LAWS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY TO ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF CLAIMS BECAUSE OF THESE LAWS, YOUR STAFF HAS SPENT YEARS LOOKING AT THESE TOPICS AND ADDRESS THEM ALL.
I APPRECIATE THE FIRE RETORQUE OF THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE CHANGE, BUT THE ECONOMICS OF GOLF, AREN'T WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
THAT GOLF COURSE CAN'T KEEP OPERATING.
SO IN THE EYES OF SACRAMENTO, A HUGE SWATH OF LAND IS ABOUT TO GO IDLE IN YOUR CITY.
ACCORDING TO CALIFORNIA, DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME, THIS PAST AUGUST, THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN CALIFORNIA EXCEEDED $700,000.
THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THE MASSIVE SUPPLY DEMAND IMBALANCE THAT WE HAVE SACRAMENTO IS NOTICING SACRAMENTO IS LAND HUNGRY FOR HOUSING AND EXPANDING THEIR REACH OVER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS.
THIS BILL SPECIFICALLY GIVE SACRAMENTO A SEAT AT THE TABLE AT LOCAL ORDINANCE IMPLEMENTATION.
NOW LAYER THAT THOUGHT OVER THE FACT THAT THERE'S A HUGE RANGE OF PRESSURE COMING.
YOUR 800 PLUS UNITS ARE GOING TO BE ENFORCED THROUGH A 2019 BUDGET TRAILER BILL DEAL.
THEY CAN RESULT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BE FINE BETWEEN 10 AND $600,000 A MONTH FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SACRAMENTO'S REQUIREMENTS.
SO WITH THE GOLF COURSE, CLOSING IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY THAT THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS WHETHER THE FUTURE OF THIS LAND WILL BE DECIDED LOCALLY OR NOT.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL SUGGEST THAT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL DESIGNED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR STAFF THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY CONCERNS, NOT SACRAMENTO CONCERNS, THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS IN THIS PROPOSAL.
WE KNOW THAT TRAFFIC IMPACTS WILL BE NO MORE THAN THAT OF A GROCERY STORE OPEN SPACE LENARA IS TAKING CARE OF THAT.
IT'S GOT OVER PERCENT 50, UH, IT'S PERCENT OPEN SPACE, MORE THAN THAT.
IN FACT, WITH ITS PARKS AND TRAILS DENSITY, THIS IS ONE OF THE LOWEST DENSITY PROJECTS THAT I'VE SEEN, UH, ANYWHERE IN ORANGE COUNTY.
SO LENARA HAS ADDRESSED ALL THE STANDARD OPPOSITION CLAIMS THAT I SEE WHEN I GO AND SPEAK ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND THEY'VE DONE IT WITH LOCAL COMMUNITY CHARACTER IN MIND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS REALLY A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU LIKELY WON'T SEE AGAIN, GIVEN THE WEIGHT OF SACRAMENTO'S POLICIES.
SO ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY CHAPTER, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL JOIN ME IN GOING ON THE RECORD TO SUPPORT THIS LOCAL VERSION OF HOUSING WITH ITS INCLUDED REVENUE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF LAVA.
IT AVOIDS DIFFICULT LEGAL CHALLENGES, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PRESSURE THAT SACRAMENTO IS GOING TO BE BRINGING DOWN ON A SOON.
HONORABLE MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER WARD AND I'M THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL OR OCBC OCBC REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES ACROSS ORANGE COUNTY,
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WORKING TOGETHER TO ADVANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.AND I BELIEVE THOSE TWO GOALS ARE MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE.
A STRONG ECONOMY IS LINKED TO A STRONG COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE, WORK AND PLAY AND HOUSING.
THAT'S A KEY PIECE OF THAT ATTAINABLE AND DESIRABLE FUTURE AT OCBC.
WE LIKE TO SAY HOUSING IS WHERE JOBS GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, AND WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF MORE HOUSING.
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THE NUMBERS TONIGHT AND THE DOWNSIDES OF OUR HOUSING SHORTFALL ARE MANY, BUT ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE BRAIN DRAIN OF OUR YOUNG EDUCATED POPULATION WHO GROW UP HERE.
GET A DEGREE AT ONE OF OUR AMAZING SCHOOLS HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY, AND MAYBE EVEN GET A GREAT JOB HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY, BUT LEAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE INCREASINGLY UNABLE TO BUY A HOME IN THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY GREW UP.
SO INSTEAD OF STAYING HERE, THEY MOVE FURTHER AWAY ADDING TRAFFIC TO OUR REGIONAL ROADS AND MAYBE EVEN LEAVING THE STATE.
AND WE'RE LOSING THAT LOCAL TALENT BASE.
THIS PROJECT IS A WELL-PLANNED STEP TOWARDS SOLVING OUR REGIONAL HOUSING AND ECONOMIC CRISIS AND HELPING YOU HERE IN LA HARBOR AND MEET YOUR OWN HOUSING TARGETS AND OFFER SO MANY GREAT AMENITIES THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD WANT TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE AS ONE OF THOSE MILLENNIALS WHO WANTS TO BE ABLE TO STAY HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY AND BUY A HOME.
AND I WANT ALL MY FRIENDS TO COME HERE AND LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY IN THIS GREAT COMMUNITY AND BUY HOMES.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
UM, HI, MY NAME IS ANNA
MY FAMILY HAS LIVED HERE IN LAHABRA FOR OVER 13 YEARS AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE RANCHO HARBOR PROJECT.
MY REMARKS TONIGHT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHARED A FEW WEEKS AGO DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT.
AS I STATED THEN, AND AFTER FOLLOWING THE PROGRESS OF THIS PROJECT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS THAT I STRONGLY FEEL THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT THE MOST URGENT OR THE CLOSELY RELATED FACTS THAT CALIFORNIA AS A WHOLE IN ORANGE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY ARE IN THE MIDST OF A CRITICAL HOUSING CRISIS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME FACING AN ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS, SMART HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN OUR URBANIZED AREAS AND SPECIFICALLY DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AT A BROADER RANGE OF DENSITIES IN PROXIMITY TO ESSENTIAL AMENITIES AND TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, AND IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY LIVE MUST BE PART OF THE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESSING THESE INTERTWINED CHALLENGES AND RANCHO HARBOR.
IT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WILL TAKE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE AND YOU, OUR LEADERS CANNOT CONTINUE TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THESE CHALLENGES OR TO PUSH THEM DOWN THE LINE, OR TO CONTINUE TO SAY NO TO THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY POSE POLITICALLY RISKY AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
OUR STATE IS LITERALLY ON FIRE IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF OUR SOCIETY'S COLLECTIVE FAILURE TO TAKE BOLD AND DECEASED DECISIVE ACTION TWITTER'S CLIMATE CHANGE AND CONTINUED FAILURE WILL ONLY EXACERBATE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE IN MY GENERATION AND GENERATIONS TO FOLLOW THE HEARTBREAKING FIRES AND TERRIBLE AIR QUALITY THAT WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, OR JUST THE BEGINNING OF WHAT IS TO COME.
IF WE CONTINUE TO CLING TO THE STATUS QUO, THAT IS UNSUSTAINABLE SPRAWLED OUT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT ARE ENTIRELY BUILT AROUND CARS AND FORCE EVERYONE TO DRIVE AND TRY TO KEEP ANYONE OUT WHO WAS NOT AROUND AT THE RIGHT PLACE IN THE RIGHT TIME TO BUY A HOME.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS ENVIRONMENTAL DEVASTATION IS A DIRECT RESULT OF IN PART OUR COLLECTIVE REFUSAL IN THIS COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE STATE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ENOUGH HOUSING AND ALL INCOME LEVELS IN RECENT YEARS, INCLUDING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, LIKE RANCHO LAHABRA, FURTHERMORE, THESE DECISIONS HAVE DRIVEN HOUSING COSTS LOCALLY AND ACROSS THE STATE.
SO HIGH THAT THEY ARE NOW OUT OF REACH FOR TOO MANY WORKING CLASS AND MIDDLE CLASS, CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE ME.
I ATTENDED WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, WENT TO SONORA HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN TO STANFORD, WHERE IT WAS THE FIRST IN MY FAMILY TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OSTENSIBLY BEING A MANIFESTATION OF THE AMERICAN DREAM, UM, BEFORE MAKING THE DECISION TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GENUINELY A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE AND WHICH HAS IMMENSE POTENTIAL TO BE AN EVEN STRONGER AND MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
IF WE MAKE IT MORE POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE AND HELP IT THRIVE, BUILDING THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED TO WELCOME THOSE FUTURE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALL THOSE WHO WOULD WISH TO LIVE HERE IS STEP ONE.
FOR THESE REASONS, I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE RENTAL HARBOR DEVELOPMENT, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE STRONG REGIONAL LEADERSHIP AND EMBRACE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD ENOUGH HOUSING, DO NOT CAPITULATE TO THE LOUD DEMANDS OF A STUBBORN AND PRIVILEGED MINORITY.
THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LA HARBOR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
IF WE REALLY WANT TO CLAIM THAT LAHABRA IS A CARING COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD BE WELCOMING OF ALL THOSE WHO WISH TO LIVE HERE, AND WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE ROOM OR ON A MORE PRACTICAL LEVEL, DO NOT EXPOSE TO THE LINK, THE CITY TO THE LINK LEAK COSTLY AND WHOLLY UNNECESSARY LAWSUITS THAT ARE CERTAIN TO FOLLOW A DENIAL OF THIS PROJECT.
THE CITY FACES DEEP BUDGETARY CHALLENGES IN THE MIDST OF OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC
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CRISIS.AND IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY POOR USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND CITY RESOURCES, TRYING TO FIGHT THIS DEVELOPMENT THROUGH LEGAL CHANNELS.
DENYING MY STUDENT GROWTH IS NO LONGER AN OPTION AND TO CONTINUE TO ATTEMPT TO DO SO WOULD BE DISAPPOINTINGLY SHORTSIGHTED.
WHEN THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE IS EVENTUALLY TURNED INTO HOUSING, WHETHER IT BE WITH THIS PROJECT OR WITH THE FUTURE ONE, I AM CERTAIN THAT THE DEMAND WILL BE OVERWHELMING.
AND THOSE WHO HAVE HERE WILL BE FANTASTIC MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THERE'S THREE SPEAKERS LAST OR THE PROJECT, CORRECT.
IF THEY CAN SPEAK FAIRLY QUICKLY, WE WILL GET THEM IN.
IF I COUNSEL INDULGE HIS NAME, WE'LL GO A FEW MINUTES.
IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK A LONG TIME, THEN COME BACK TOMORROW.
MY NAME IS JONATHAN HUGHES SPEAKING TO YOU THIS EVENING AS A FORMER CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION HERE IN LAHABRA FORMER SECRETARY OF THE LAHABRA AD HOC FISCAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND A RESIDENT FOR NEARLY 25 YEARS.
I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS PUBLIC PROCESS TO SEE NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF LAHABRA.
AND THE FUTURE IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
THE FUTURE IS WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS ALL ABOUT.
AND YOU WERE ELECTED TO GOVERN NOT FOR THE PAST, NOT EVEN FOR THE PRESENT, BUT FOR THE FUTURE.
I SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU.
IT HELPS TO ADDRESS THE REGIONAL HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT IS FORCING YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF OUT OF THE AREA IN DROVES.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES A NUMBER OF BENEFITS FOR ALL OF LAHABRA THAT HAVE BEEN WELL OUTLINED TONIGHT THAT INCLUDE A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES.
IF THIS PROJECT IS NOT APPROVED, I HIGHLY SUSPECT THERE WILL BE EVENTUALLY SOMETHING IN ITS PLACE, IN PLACE OF THE GOLF COURSE.
AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS VERY AMBITIOUS HOUSING GOALS.
AND I FEAR THAT IF CITIES LIKE LAHABRA DO NOT ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND APPROVE SENSIBLE PROJECTS, THE STATE WILL INSERT ITSELF IN LOCAL LAND USE DECISIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, THE GOLF COURSE WHILE BEAUTIFUL AND APPEALING TO OR APPEARING TO SOME, TO BE OPEN SPACE IS HARDLY THAT AND PROVIDES LITTLE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
EVEN GROWING UP HERE, ATTENDING LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS, VOLUNTEERING HERE IN TOWN, I'VE BEEN TO THE TOUTED WESTBRIDGE COMMUNITY.
MAYBE TWICE WHILE THE COURSE IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THERE IS A LITERAL PAY TO PLAY MODEL THAT'S NATURALLY EXCLUSIVE.
THE PROPOSED OPEN SPACE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL BE FREE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT WILL BE DEEDED AS YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY.
FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL, NOT JUST FOR THE FEW, WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION.
MANY WHO LIVE IN THE HILLS ABOVE THE GOLF COURSE, HOWEVER LOUD REPRESENTS THE VOICE, THE THREATS AND THE NOISE OF THE FEW I WOULD ASK WOULD THESE SAME PEOPLE WILL BE SO UP IN ARMS. IF THIS PROJECT WAS HERE IN THE CENTER OF LAHABRA WHERE WE ARE NOW, IF WE GO BACK SOME 20, 30 YEARS TO WHEN THE WESTBRIDGE DEVELOPMENT HOMES WERE BUILT, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN HEATED AND EMOTIONAL OPPOSITION TO THOSE SAME HOMES.
THESE PEOPLE NOW OCCUPY THE WESTERN DEVELOPMENT.
ODDLY PARALLEL WITH WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, IS THAT WAS ABOUT 400 HOMES.
AND ON ITS WEBSITE STATES THAT IT WAS QUOTE CREATED TO MEET THE INCREASING DEMAND FOR LUXURY HOMES.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE APPROACHING THESE NEW HOMES.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE FUTURE AND APPROVING THIS PROJECT TONIGHT OR TOMORROW NIGHT OR THE NEXT NIGHT, UH, WILL HAVE POSITIVE BENEFITS FOR YEARS TO COME.
THIS PROJECT PROVIDES NEEDED MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING, PERHAPS FOR THAT YOUNG TEACHER POLICE OFFICER FIREFIGHTER OR SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO WANTS TO CALL LAHABRA HOME, WHO WANTS TO BE YOUR NEIGHBOR.
WE EACH COME TO OR BORN IN, OR ENDED UP IN THE HARBOR AT SOME POINT, AND APPROVING THIS PROJECT PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE PEOPLE TO ENJOY THIS UNIQUE AND TRULY CARING COMMUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW, MANY YOUNG PEOPLE CURRENTLY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS CITY.
AND WE'RE SEEING OUR FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, AND CHILDREN LEAVING FOR MORE AFFORDABLE AREAS.
MY WIFE AND I, FOR INSTANCE, RELOCATED LESS THAN A YEAR AGO TO NEIGHBORING FULLERTON BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THE HOMBRE.
THIS WAS AFTER NEARLY 25 YEARS IN LAHABRA AND I'M STILL PROUD TO SERVE ON A NONPROFIT BOARD HERE IN TOWN.
SOME HAVE SAID IT WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT JUST THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF LAHABRA BY APPROVING THIS PROJECT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO COMMENT.
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GOOD EVENING.DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER OF 41 YEARS.
AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY REALTORS ASSOCIATION.
I SPEAK STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE RANCHO LA HABRA PROJECT.
THE WILL REALLY BENEFIT THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT ARE TENFOLD BEYOND OFFERING HOME OWNERSHIP.
IT OFFERS A GENEROUS BALANCE OF OPEN SPACE OVER 50% WITH PARKS, HABITAT AND LOW DENSITY.
IN MY MANY YEARS OF REAL ESTATE, I'VE SEEN NEW DEVELOPMENTS OFTEN INCREASE THE VALUE SURROUNDING THE PROJECT AND ITS SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS INCREASING POSSIBLE EQUITY OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
WE DO WANT TO KEEP OUR NURSES, OUR FIREMAN, ET CETERA, CLOSE BY AND OFFER THEM HOME OWNERSHIP IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT'S VERY HARD TO DO WITH THE AFFORDABILITY BEING A REAL SERIOUS PROBLEM.
THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR HOUSING AND STATEWIDE.
WE ARE SHORT APPROXIMATELY 180,000 UNITS OR HOMES EACH YEAR, UH, AS SAID BEFORE BY OTHER SPEAKERS, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL GOLF COURSES, REPURPOSED TO MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN DONE VERY WELL.
OFFERING MANY COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
IT'LL BE A BEAUTIFUL ASSET FOR THE CITY.
AND I FEEL PERSONALLY OF VOCAL POINT, I HAVE SEEN SEVEN TO 10% INCREASE IN APPRECIATION, UH, IN LAHABRA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THE PROJECT OFFERS MOVE UP OPPORTUNITIES, KEEPING RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO STAY IN THE CITY AND FREEING UP OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAYBE MIGHT BE A MOVE UP PROPERTY OR A PROPERTY FOR A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER.
FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS THAT HAVE NOT YET ACHIEVED HOME OWNERSHIP OR POSSIBLY SENIORS THAT WANT TO MOVE CLOSER TO FAMILIES, UM, OR NEED MEDICAL CARRADINE TO LIVE CLOSER TO FAMILIES BEYOND THE MUCH NEEDED HOUSING.
THE RANCHO LA HABRA OFFERS BALANCE WITH THE PARK CHILDREN'S AREAS, HIKING TRAILS HABITAT, AND THE THINGS YOU'VE HEARD THIS EVENING OVERALL COMMUNITY USE, I THINK IS A MAJOR BONUS.
GETTING OUT TO USE THE TRAILS AND TRYING TO DO THAT MYSELF EXERCISE AND SPEND FAMILY TIME TOGETHER.
AND WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY, UH HUH.
ADDS ALSO TO THE SHOPPING, UH, WITH, UH, ABILITY TO ADD MORE TO COMMERCE.
AND OF COURSE WITH THE STRUGGLING BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR POSSIBLE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS IS AN AMAZING AND I COULD GO ON AND ON HOME OWNERSHIP IS OFTEN HARD TO COME BY.
RANCHO LA HABRA GIVES 443 FAMILIES, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
I SELL THE AMERICAN DREAM, BUT I WANT SO MANY PEOPLE TO OWN A HOME.
AND THIS GIVES AT LEAST 443 FAMILIES THAT OPPORTUNITY AND TO BECOME A PART OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY OF LAHABRA AS AN ADVOCATE FOR HOMEOWNERS, HOME OWNERSHIP AND PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY REALTORS ASSOCIATION, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND A VOTE YES FOR THE RANCHO LA HARBOR COMMUNITY.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I UNDERSTAND I'M THE LAST SPEAKER.
SO I'M, UH, I'LL MAKE THIS VERY SHORT, UH, TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
UM, UH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE LONGER VERSION, I DID SUBMIT A LETTER, A EIGHT PAGE LETTER THAT, UH, GOES INTO SOME DETAIL ABOUT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS BY A PHONE CALL OR AN EMAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT WITH MY REMARKS IS I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, WHY THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME HAVING A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT UNDER STATE LAW, IF IT DOES NOT APPROVE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT.
UM, AND FURTHERMORE, WHY, IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, THERE MAY BE VERY SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES WHERE THERE IN THE PAST HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR FAILING TO HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT.
OH, I SHOULD SAY, I FORGOT TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING, I WAS TRYING TO GO SO FAST.
I AM A LAND USE ATTORNEY AND LAW
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PROFESSOR.UM, AND, UH, SO I HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN THE AREA OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND HOUSING ELEMENT LAW.
UM, SO WE NOTICED THAT BEGIN WITH THAT.
THE CITY OF LA HARBOR IS VERY LIKELY TO GET A RENA REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION OF, OF AT LEAST 803 HOMES FOR THE NEXT, UH, EIGHT YEAR CYCLE, BEGINNING IN 2021.
UH, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS MADE VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT CITIES ARE REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY SITES THAT ARE REALISTICALLY CAPABLE OF DEVELOPMENT DURING THE CYCLE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT SITES THAT ARE CURRENTLY NON VACANT ARE GOING TO BE HEAVILY DISFAVORED IN THE RENA PROCESS, UH, UNLESS THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE THAT THIS SITE CAN REALISTICALLY BE REDEVELOPED TO SKIP TO THE END HERE.
UH, THERE AREN'T VERY MANY SITES IN THE CITY OF LAHABRA THAT ARE VACANT AND OF THOSE THAT ARE NON VACANT.
THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT ARE REALISTICALLY CAPABLE OF REDEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN RANCHO LAHABRA, WHICH MEANS THAT IF RACHEL LAHABRA IS NOT ENTITLED, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO MEET ITS RINA AND THEREFORE HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT UNDER STATE LAW.
UH, THE NEXT PIECE IS IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A COMPLIANT ELEMENT UNDER A STATE LAW, UM, THERE MAY BE SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES.
FOR EXAMPLE, LOSS OF STATE FUNDING, CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH, UH, UH, ESTIMATES.
THEY LOST $600,000 LAST YEAR AS A RESULT OF HAVING A NONCOMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT.
THERE'S ALSO SEVERAL OTHER FUNDING STREAMS THAT ARE AT RISK.
A LAND USE AUTHORITY COULD BE SUSPENDED.
IN FACT, THERE'S A STATUTE THAT REQUIRES A COURT TO SUSPEND SOME OF A CITY'S LAND USE AUTHORITY.
IF IT DOES NOT HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT, THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS IN THE PAST WHERE COURTS HAVE PREVENTED CITIES FROM ISSUING ANY BUILDING PERMITS, WHICH MEANS THAT LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN UNABLE EVEN TO REMODEL THEIR KITCHENS OR WIDEN THEIR DRIVEWAYS UNTIL THE CITY WAS ABLE TO HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT.
AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALSO THE RISK OF LITIGATION BEING BROUGHT BOTH BY THE STATE, AS WELL AS BY PRIVATE PARTIES.
THE VERY LAST PIECE I JUST WANT TO MENTION, AND THEN I'LL SAY GOOD NIGHT, UM, IS OF COURSE THE, THE THERE'S THE PROSPECT OF THE OPEN SPACE INITIATIVE, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT APPROVE THE PROJECT OR, OR PASSES ON IT.
AND THEN THE OPEN-SPACE INITIATIVE PASSES.
IT WILL BECOME EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT, UNLESS IT TAKES ACTION TO UNDO THE INITIATIVE SOMEHOW.
AND THIS IS IN FACT, SOMETHING THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF ENCINITAS WHERE, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD TO SUE ITS OWN RESIDENTS TO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE OR TO HAVE A SLOW GROWTH HOUSING INITIATIVE DECLARED INVALID.
AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT ISSUE A CERTIFICATION THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT WAS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW UNTIL THE CITY SHOWED PROOF THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THEIR OWN RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE INITIATIVE DECLARED INVALID.
UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAME SORT OF THING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IF THAT INITIATIVE WERE TO GO INTO EFFECT AND THE RENTAL OF THE HOPPER PROJECT, WE'RE NOT ENTITLED.
SO TO AVOID ALL OF THOSE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE RANCHO HOPPER PROJECT.
AND I DID GET YOUR LETTER AND READ IT.
NOW QUESTION, BEFORE WE CLOSE HERE, ARE THERE MORE CARDS AVAILABLE OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THIS PROJECT AT ANY TIME FOR TOMORROW? WE DO HAVE MORE.
SO I THINK BECAUSE PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LEFT THERE ALL THINK WE'RE GOING TO START AT SIX 30.
I WAS THINKING WE MIGHT START AT SIX, BUT BECAUSE I MAY NOT GET THAT TIME, THEN I WOULD, IF MY COLLEAGUES AGREE WITH THAT OUT A CONTEST, I WILL MOVE THAT WE RECONVENE TOMORROW AT SIX 30 TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS AND, UH, INVITING THOSE TO SUPPORT AND SPEAK TO THE PROJECT SIX 30 FOR EVERYBODY TO GET EVERYBODY TO COME MAKE IT.
WHAT'S THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE RECORD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING REMAINS FOR THAT CONTINUED MEETING, RIGHT? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REMAINING OPEN AND WE WERE CONTINUING THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO TOMORROW AT SIX 30.