* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YES, [ Please take notice that the adjourned regular City Council meeting of October 19, 2020, has been adjourned to the time and location indicated below: Location: Council Chamber Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 Time: 6:30 p.m.] [00:00:08] TENURED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF OCTOBER, 1920 20. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IT IS 6:30 PM ON OCTOBER 20. AND WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER SHOP HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MEDRANO HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ RECUSED HIMSELF. SO HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA HERE, MAYOR BEAMISH. I AM HERE. SO WE WILL RETURN WHERE WE LEFT OFF IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT AS A REMINDER OF COMMENTS, SHE'LL BE UNLIMITED PER INDIVIDUAL AND THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS MUST BE KEPT BRIEF NON-REPETITIVE AND PROFESSIONAL IN NATURE. ANYONE WHO BECOMES ABUSIVE OR DISPLAYS INAPPROPRIATE PUBLIC BEHAVIOR WILL BE TOLD TO STOP SPEAKING AND LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER PURSUANT TO ESTABLISH POLICY. THE MEETING WILL CONCLUDE AT 10:30 PM CURFEW UNLESS THE MEETING IS EXTENDED BY THE MAYOR. ANY BUSINESS NOT COMPLETED BY THIS TIME WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. IF AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BECOMES NECESSARY, THE CITY COUNCIL INTENDS TO CONTINUE THE MEETING TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING TIME. AND WE'D BE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE HEALTH BREAKS AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION AND RECESS FOR A SHORT PERIOD. FOLLOWING PUBLIC TESTIMONY, THE STAFF WILL SUMMARIZE THE NUMBER OF PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED SINCE 5:00 PM, WHICH HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THE DAYS FOR THE RECORD. AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL AFTER WHICH WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER INTO DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE DIRECTION STAFF ACCORDINGLY. AND AS THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN WATCHING, WE HAVE 22 AND WE'RE TAKING INPUT FROM THOSE THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. AND SO AT THIS TIME I WOULD INVITE THOSE IF THERE ARE ANY REMAINING TO COME IN AND IN SUPPORT OF THIS TO SPEAK MARY'S CASE THERE'S ONE MORE IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. HELLO. HI, UH, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHUCK KOSKI. I AM COUNSEL TO THE QUAN FAMILY, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, UH, WHICH THIS PROJECT IS BEING, UH, REQUESTED PROJECT APPROVAL. UM, I IS THE MIC ON THERE? YEAH. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, TRUCK KERLIKOWSKE, UH, COUNSEL FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE QUAN FAMILY, A LONG TIME BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS IN THE CITY. UH, 2019, I SUBMITTED A COUPLE LETTERS REGARDING THE INITIATIVE AND YOU MADE YOUR DECISIONS ON, UH, DEFERRING THAT TO THE ELECTION. I ALSO SUBMITTED A LETTER LAST WEEK, OUTLINING SOME OF THE POSITIONS OF THE KWONS HAD REGARDING THE PROJECT AND THE INITIATIVE. UH, I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH ANY OF THAT. UM, YOU HAVE THE LETTERS, UH, THE SEAT, YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE LEGAL ISSUES AND HOW THINGS PROGRESS MOVING FORWARD. WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY THOUGH, WAS FAIRNESS. UM, PROPERTIES HAVE USEFUL LIVES. YOU KNOW, THEY PROPERTIES, BUSINESSES, BUILDINGS, THEY HAVE USEFUL LIVES IN WHICH THEY'RE USEFUL. PEOPLE USE THEM. THEY'RE AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE OWNER OR THE BUSINESS OWNER. AND AT SOME POINT THAT TRANSITIONS WELL, THE TIME FOR THIS COURSE, THE GOLF COURSE, IT'S TRANSITIONING. IT'S TRANSITIONING FROM GOLF COURSE USE TO SOME OTHER USE. UH, THE PROJECT APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED BUILDING A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AS THEIR PROPOSED USE OF THE SITE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S TRANSITIONING. AND MY POINT IS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHTS TO ENJOY THE ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL USE OF THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S A RIGHT, THAT'S GUARANTEED TO THEM AND INFRINGING ON THOSE RIGHTS, WHETHER IT'S BY LEGISLATION, EITHER FROM THE DEUS OR EVEN THE PUBLIC INFRINGING ON UPON THOSE RIGHTS IMPACTS THE PROPERTY OWNER NEGATIVELY. AND THE POINT OF THIS IS WHETHER IT'S THROUGH PROJECT DECISIONS OR LEGISLATION, WHETHER IT'S BY YOU OR THE PUBLIC IMPACTING THOSE PROPERTY RIGHTS HAVE CONSEQUENCES TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SO I THINK THE CITY HAS THE RESOURCES TO USE ITS MONIES IN SCHOOLS AND PARKS AND, AND DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, DRUG ISSUES AND CHILD PROGRAMS. AND SO WHAT I'M URGING YOU TO DO IS APPROVE THE PROJECT. IT BENEFITS THE ECONOMICAL USE OF [00:05:01] THIS PROPERTY, AND IT DOESN'T DEPRIVE THE KWAN FAMILY FROM THE BENEFITS THAT THEY DERIVE FROM THE PROPERTY THAT THEY PURCHASED. A THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL NOW GO AND INVITE THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT. SO THEY MAY COME IN AND START THE TECHNICAL ISSUE WITH THE BROAD CASTING OUTSIDE. OKAY. THEN WE'LL TAKE A RECESS TILL YOU GET IT FIXED. WHERE RECESS FOR A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU. PRETTY GOOD. SET OF LUNGS, THAT COMMUNITY OUT THERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT YOU NEED A MEGAPHONE CHANNEL THREE. OKAY. YES. IT'S A GOOD THEATER. I CAN JUGGLE. I CAN JUGGLE TWO PIECES OF WHATEVER IT IS. NOT BIGGER THAN A BASKETBALL OUTSIDE OF THAT. FORGET IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ROSE. WE WILL, UH, COME OUT OF RECESS AND WE'LL START WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MR. HALEY. I LIVE IN THE WESTBRIDGE COMMUNITY. I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? MR. HALEY. THANK YOU. NOW I CAN'T SEE MY NOTES LAST NIGHT AND LIT LINEAR REPRESENTATIVES STAYED LAST NIGHT THAT THE PROCESS HAS INTEGRALLY WOVEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH. WE DISAGREE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S BEEN NOSA AND MEDRANO. HE ALLUDED TO LAST NIGHT. LAST EVENING, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. WHAT'S THE SUPPORT CARDS LINEAR HAS PRODUCED OR PROVIDED BOTH ACCOUNTS. COUNCIL MEMBERS ADDRESSED ADDRESS WHERE USED ADDRESSES WERE USED AND FAKE NAMES ARE USED IN ATTEMPT [00:10:01] TO SHOW ALLEGED SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT. DECEPTION DOES NOT END HERE. MANY OF THE SAME LAHABRA MEMBERS WHO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT HAD FRUSTRATED, UM, UH, HAD FRAUDULENT SUPPORT CARDS FILLED OUT IN THEIR NAMES. THE NARD PAID PUNIT, UH, PA UH, PETITIONERS GATHERS, UM, PAID PETITIONER, GATHERS ON VIDEO, ASKING FOR SUPPORT TO SAVE OPEN SPACE. WE ASKED TO PRESENT THIS VIDEO AND WE'RE TOLD WE CAN'T FOR THIS REASON, WE ARE SUBMITTING THE VIDEO FOR THE RECORD. THESE ARE, THESE EXAMPLES ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. THEY CLAIM THAT THIS PROJECT HAS WIDE SUPPORT IS A FALSE HIT. A SINGLE HUBBER RESONANT APPEARED VIA VIDEO OR IN PERSON LAST NIGHT TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY. THE ONLY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT LAST NIGHT WERE INDIVIDUALS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING CALIFORNIA, COMMUNITY BUILDERS, CA CALIFORNIA, AND FIELD FEDERATION. THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION PEOPLE FOR HOUSING, ORANGE COUNTY BUILDING INDUSTRY LEGAL DEFENSE FOUNDATION, ORANGE COUNTY BUSINESS COUNCIL, AND ORANGE COUNTY REALTOR ASSOCIATION. SURELY YOU WOULD THINK THIS PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WOULD GATHER A FEW INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT OR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. INSTEAD, ONLY ONE RESIDENT SHOWED UP VIA VIDEO. ONCE YOU REMOVE THE PROP BOXES FILLED WITH FALSIFIED SUPPORT CARDS IN THE VIDEO, SOME ARLENE SUPPORTERS SPEAKING BEHIND MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKERS. THIS IS THE RECORD YOU HAVE BEFORE A SINGLE LAHABRA RESIDENT APPEARING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. WEBINAR'S REPRESENTATIVES WILL NOT EVEN ACCURATELY REFLECT COMMENTS FROM THE CEQ, A RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES, SUCH AS THE FISH AND WILDLIFE, WHO THEY CLAIM HAVE WORKED IN UNISON THROUGH THE PAST FIVE YEARS. ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASON THAT EIR WAS CIRCULATED WAS CERTAINLY IT WAS DUE TO A FISH AND WILDLIFE LETTER IN 2018. THAT'S STATED AMONG OTHER THINGS FOREMOST, THE DRAFT EIR DOES NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT DISCLOSURE FOR ANALYSIS OF THE PROJECT'S POTENTIAL BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS. EVEN AFTER THE ER WAS RECIRCULATED THE FISH, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMENT THAT THE EIR WAS STILL DEFICIENT AND MUST BE MODIFIED THE JANUARY 6TH, 2020 COMMENT LETTER FROM THE FISH AND WILDLIFE ON THE RESEARCH CORRELATION DRAFT REPORT, STILL EXPRESS GREAT CONCERN ON HOW THE NAR SEEKS TO PROCEED. IT IS THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT THE DEPARTMENTS TO LOCATE APPROPRIATE FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT MIGRATION. THE RIGHT BRENT MIGRATION SITES SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED APPROVED BY THE CDFA AND ACQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION TERMINATING AND CURRENT DEED RESTRICTIONS. AND PRIOR TO THE CITY CERTIFYING THAT PROJECT EIR, THE STATEMENT IS IN DIRECT CONTRAST TO THE STATEMENTS LAST NIGHT THAT THE CD FW WOULD NOT ENGAGE. IF LEONARD DID NOT HAVE AN APPROVED PROJECT, IF IT IS CDF W'S REQUEST AS A C E QA RESPONSIBLE AGENCY, THAT THESE ISSUES ARE TO BE SATISFIED PRIOR TO THE CITY CERTIFYING THE PROJECT, EIR THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE CDF W'S COMMAND TO SATISFY BIOLOGICAL MIGRATION PRIOR TO THE CITY CERTIFYING THE PROJECTS E R IS INCLUDED IN THE FINAL E R THE CITY DOES NOT CONCUR. HOWEVER, THE MIGRATION MEASURES SET FORTH AND THE ER NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE CITY CERTIFYING THE PROJECT, ER, THE CITY AND THE CDF W ARE NOT WORKING COLLABORATELY CHILLY AS LENARA SOUGHT TO PORTRAY THE J JANUARY 20, THE JANUARY 6TH, 2020 LETTER EXPRESS SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE CITY MOVING FORWARD AND HIGHLIGHTED KEY DEVIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE. JUST TWO EXAMPLES, FISH AND WILDLIFE STATED THAT DEPARTMENT DISAGREES WITH THIS ASSESSMENT ABOUT THE MIGRATION AND AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED THE MIGRATION MEASURES INTEND TO PROTECT [00:15:01] CONVERSATIONAL. CONSERVATIONAL AREAS ARE NOT ADEQUATE TO ENSURE SENSITIVE SPECIES, INCLUDING THE GUTS. CATCHER WILL CONCLUDE, CONTINUE TO BE SUPPORTED WITHIN THE PROJECT SITE. THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THE PROPOSED MIGRATION TO MIGRATE BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS BEFORE THE PROJECT IS APPROVED. AND PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE THE FALSE CLAIMS THAT OIL IS NOT HAZARDOUS. THE PETROLEUM EXCLUSION UNDER THE SUPER FUN LAW SITE LAST NIGHT, AS A REASON WHY OIL CONTAMINATION IS SUPPOSEDLY SAFE, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL BEING HAZARDOUS OR NOT OIL CONTAMINATION AND POLLUTION IS NOT SAFE. AND IT'S HAZARDOUS PUBLIC HEALTH HEALTH. ALTHOUGH OUR EFFORTS TO REQUEST THE ABILITY TO ABILITY OF PROJECT OPPONENTS, TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY WHICH PRIVILEGE WAS AFFORDED TO THE APPLICANT AND NOT PROVIDE IT TO US. AND ALTHOUGH WE ARE INSTRUCTED, WE CAN NOT PLAY VIDEO. ANOTHER PRIVILEGE THAT WAS AFFORDED TO THE APPLICANT. THERE ARE OVER A HUNDRED LA HARBOR RESIDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF THE HARBOR, WHICH YOU WILL HEAR FROM TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS PROJECT IS BAD FROM LAHABRA. WE HOPE YOU LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS, CONCERNS AND FOCUS ON THE FACTS WHEN DELIVERING OVER THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR TAKING YOUR TIME. I WANT EVERYONE TO LISTEN CLOSELY BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN BY IS A PATTERN. OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS MARY BELL LOPEZ. OKAY. I WANT EVERYONE TO LISTEN CLOSELY BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN BY LENORE IS A PATTERN OF DECEPTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SHE, THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA. LET ME ELABORATE. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT. SO THIS FLYER BEEN GOING AROUND SAYING THERE'S 10,000 LA HARBOR RESIDENTS SUPPORTING THE RANCHO LA HOMBRE PROJECT, BUT REALLY THOSE 10,000 PEOPLE SHOULD BE THOUGHT OF AS SAVE LA HARBOR SUPPORTERS. WHY THERE'S FIVE REASONS, LENORE'S OPINION POLL THEIR SIGNATURE GATHERERS, THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS, THEIR FORGERIES, AND THEIR VIDEO. NUMBER ONE, THE NARS OPINION POLL WAS OUTRIGHT DECEPTIVE. WHAT IS RELEVANT HERE IS THE SIGNERS THOUGHT THESE FORUMS WERE FOR SAVE LAHABRA BECAUSE LENORE ONLY WROTE ABOUT OUR MESSAGE POINTS LIKE OPEN SPACE, TRAFFIC, MITIGATIONS SCHOOLS, NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF BUILDING HOUSES. WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANTED FOLKS TO THINK THEY WERE TALKING TO SAVE LAHABRA. SO THE VERY DESIGN OF THEIR OPINION, POLL AND RESPONSE CARDS LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE OUR SUPPORTERS. NUMBER TWO, THEY HAD PAID SIGNATURE GATHERS IN THE FIELD, VERBALLY RECRUITING PEOPLE WITHOUT RIGHT DECEPTION, QUIT SMOKING WEED AND ALL THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT OPTION INSTEAD OF SMOKING CIGARETTES. I THINK I STARTED THAT ONE AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M FROM UMBRA. I AM FROM TOOK A GOLF COURSE. YOU DON'T TURN THE GOLF COURSE DOWN AND PUT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. ARE YOU DOING THE JAPAN? NO, BUT THIS ONE'S FOR MORE OF THE THINGS I SIGN THIS. I SAW THIS ONE EARLIER. IT'S FOR THE GOLF COURSE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IT'S FOR THE BUILDING PROJECT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. I SUPPORT RANCHO. SO THEY'RE TELLING YOU THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? YEAH. THEY CAUGHT ME AT WALMART TOO. IT'S FUCKING CRAZY. YEAH. I GOT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT'S FOR THE PLUGS THAT'S FOR THE PROJECT. YEAH, REALLY WEIRD. [00:20:03] MY GUY TOLD ME WAS NOT YOU. NO, THAT'S FOR THE PROJECT. THAT'S CRAZY. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ISSUES ARE JACKING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THERE'S NO MIRROR. THAT IS WEIRD. SO WHAT THE SIGNATURE GATHERER THOUGHT WAS THAT IF I MANOR UP TO, I REALLY COULDN'T HEAR THAT. OH, YOU KIND OF SUMMARIZE NAVY WHAT THEY SAID. SURE. OKAY. SO THE SIGNATURE GATHERER ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GATHERING SIGNATURES FOR THE PR, UM, FOR, UM, LET'S SEE, HE, HE THOUGHT HE WAS GATHERING SIGNATURES AGAINST THE PROJECT. CAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING. HE WAS SAYING, CAN YOU SIGN? UM, SO THEY DON'T TEAR DOWN THE GOLF COURSE AND PUT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. UM, AND THEN HE'S HE WAS SAYING THAT, UM, EVEN THOUGH OUR, THE PERSON THAT HE WAS TRYING TO RECRUIT SAID, WAIT, BUT IT SAYS IT'S FOR RANCHO LAHABRA THE GUY GOES, BUT MY GUY TOLD ME IT WAS AGAINST RANCHO LA HARBOR. THAT'S CRAZY. I HAVE TO TELL THEM THE OPPOSITE. SO THAT'S EX THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. IT WAS KIND OF GETTING AT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NUMBER THREE, THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS AND MAILERS AND MESSAGING FOCUS ON OPEN SPACE RATHER THAN HOUSING. AGAIN, THESE ARE OUR MESSAGE POINTS. SO YOU'LL HEAR FROM MANY FOLKS TONIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN CONFUSED BY THE MAILERS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT OUT BY LENORE AND THE LAND OWNER. OH, ACTUALLY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SENT OUT BY LAW OR LENNON DONOR, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE LAST WEEK, THERE WAS ONE THAT SAYS IT'S FROM VOTE NOW, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. OUR ATTORNEY CAN'T FIND THEIR LISTING. SO THIS IS THE THING, LIKE WHY ARE THEY HAVING TO RESORT TO TRICKERY AND DECEPTION? WHY CAN'T THEY GIVE THEIR OWN MESSAGE? WHICH IS IF THEY THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF LAHABRA VOTERS SUPPORT THE PROJECT, HOW COME THEY'RE NOT PROUDLY PUTTING THEIR NAME LENORE ON THEIR MAILERS, TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AND TALKING ABOUT BUILDING. IF, WHY, WHY AREN'T THEY DOING THAT? MAYBE BECAUSE THEY THINK, OR MAYBE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T SUPPORT THIS AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT TOO. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR, THEY OUTRIGHT DECEIVED YOU. THE COUNCIL WITH THEIR SUBMISSIONS, THEIR SUPPORTERS LIST INCLUDED ALL THE SABLE HARBOR FOUNDERS, INCLUDING MYSELF. MY SIGNATURE WAS FORGED IN MY ADDRESS WAS IN THOSE PETITIONS AS WELL, AS WELL AS LIKE COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER MEDRANO'S DAUGHTER, AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER, ESPINOSA'S HOUSE AND A BUNCH OF HOUSES ON HER STREET AND A PARK ON HER STREET, THEY'RE ALL COMPLETELY FAKE. AND IN SOME CASES, FORGERIES, AND WHEN WE CHECKED A SMALL SAMPLE OF SIGNATURES, JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY, JUST IN WESTRIDGE, LISTEN TO THIS 98% OF THE SIGNATURES WERE EITHER FORGERIES MADE UP HOUSE NUMBERS OR STREETS IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THOSE HOUSES. SO I REMEMBER AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED THESE PETITIONS TO BE VERIFIED. LENORA'S HAD FOUR WEEKS TO DO FURTHER CHECKING, BUT THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT LAST NIGHT UNDER QUESTIONING. THEY STILL FAILED TO DO THAT. MAYBE THEY THOUGHT NO ONE WAS GOING TO CHECK, BUT THEY WERE WRONG. SOON. YOU WILL HEAR FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WILL TESTIFY TO THE COUNSEL ON THIS FACT. AND I'VE ENCLOSED COPIES OF THESE FRAUD PETITIONS FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER EXAMPLES THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE BONNIE CLYDE LIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S JACK DANIELS AND TINKER TALL AMONGST THEM. SO IT SEEMS LIKE LENORE WAS JUST SO DESPERATE TO COME UP WITH THESE 10,000 SUPPORTERS AND THEY COULDN'T FIND THEM. SO THEY JUST MADE THEM UP. NUMBER FIVE. ANOTHER THING IS THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OF THEIR SO CALLED SUPPORTERS. MANY WHO ARE STANDING IN THE SAME CONFERENCE ROOM WITH A GLASS PANE, PROBABLY COACHED WHERE THEY ALL TOLD THE FACTS. WE'RE NOT SURE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TESTIFY ON VIDEO, BUT YET THEY WERE ALLOWED TO TESTIFY OUR VIDEO. AND OUR FOLKS WAITED OUTSIDE YESTERDAY FOR FOUR HOURS IN THE COLD. WE COULDN'T EVEN GET ANY WORD IN EDGE WISE, BUT GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY'RE HERE TODAY, LIVE AND IN PERSON AND YOU'LL KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND THEY WILL. THEY KNOW THE FACTS WELL. SO HOW CAN WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TESTIFY BY THAT THERE'S INTEGRITY [00:25:01] WOVEN THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT, AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO REPRESENTING THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO YOU THAT THERE IS AT THE VERY LEAST LACK OF INTEGRITY INVOLVED. YOU SHOULD TRUST NONE OF THESE SUPPORTERS NUMBERS. AND IN FACT, YOU SHOULD THINK OF THAT BIG BOX OF LETTERS OUT THERE AS SUPPORTERS FOR SAVE LAHABRA. INSTEAD LYNNORA COULD HAVE THE BEST DOG AND PONY SHOW IN THE WORLD WITH SLIDES, POWERPOINT, FANCY GRAPHICS, VIDEO. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. AND NONE OF, BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT. THEY HAVE DECEPTION, TRICKERY AND OUTRIGHT, OUTRIGHT FRAUD WITH THESE FACTS IN MIND. HOW CAN YOU TRUST ANYTHING? THE DEVELOPER IS TELLING YOU? SO IF YOU HAD, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME HERE IN CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED ME THREE YEARS AGO, IF I'D BE HERE SPEAKING AT THE CITY COUNCIL, HEARING LIKE THIS, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO WAY, BUT NOW I'M HERE REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY. MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO STAND UP HERE AND TALK, OR MAYBE THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE TO TALK IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC. CAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH. I DON'T REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS TOXIC SOIL, OVERWHELMING TRAFFIC LOSS OF OPEN SPACE, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE MESSAGE IS LOUD AND CLEAR, BUT WHAT I HOPE TO APPEAL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY IS YOU GUYS TOOK YOUR POSITION AS COUNCIL MEMBER AND YOU DID IT ALL BECAUSE OF A LOVE FOR OUR CITY AND AS A WAY TO ACT AS A VOICE FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND RIGHT NOW YOUR ARE TELLING YOU ONE THING LAHABRA IS A CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY. MANY OF US HAVE BUILT OUR LIVES HERE AND PLAN TO RETIRE HERE AS WELL. I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE LIVED IN OUR CITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND HAVE STRONG ROOTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND YOUR DECISIONS TODAY WILL AFFECT YOUR FAMILIES AND FUTURE GENERATIONS AS WELL. BECAUSE WHAT SAVE LA HARBOR HAS DONE IS TO BRING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN FORCE TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ENTIRE CITY, THE ISSUES WE BROUGHT FORTH RESONATED WITH THE YOUNG AND OLD NEWCOMERS TO THE CITY, AS WELL AS LIFELONG. THE HOBBINS AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY, SAW HOW OUR CITY IS BEING OVERTAKEN WITH HOUSING, BUILT ON EVERY PATCH OF LAND. WE HAVE LEFT TO THE POINT THAT OUR CITY IS BECOMING UNRECOGNIZABLE. AND THAT'S WHY SAVE LAHABRA HAS TAKEN OFF THE WAY IT HAS. NONE OF YOU COULD IGNORE THAT FACT IF VOTING NO WOULD ONLY BENEFIT A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I'D SAY THAT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO. BUT IF THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF CITIZENS IN THE HARBOR ARE ALL VOICING THE SAME CONCERNS, NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE IN LAHABRA THEN I ASK YOU TO LOOK DEEP INTO YOUR HEART AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALL HERE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT FOR A REASON TO SERVE OUR CITY AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WELL, LENORA'S GOING WILLING TO GO TO ANY MEANS TO GET YOUR VOTE. THEY'RE CALLING US BULLIES. THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE THREATENING. REALLY? YOU GUYS KNOW ALL OF US, YOU KNOW US VERY WELL AND YOU KNOW, OUR INTEGRITY, WE'RE ALL HERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOT LIKE LENORE. WHO'S GOING TO FINISH THEIR PROJECT, TAKE THEIR PROFITS AND SAY ADIOS LAHABRA. AND NOW THAT IT'S EXPOSED THAT THEY WILL EVEN RESORT TO FRAUD JUST TO GET YOUR VOTE. OH, WELL THEY MADE THEIR BED. THEY HAVE TO LAY IN IT. NOW THE POLLS WILL TELL US THE TRUE NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS FOR AND AGAINST THIS PROJECT WE ASK THAT YOU DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE WITH INTEGRITY AND HONOR AND VOTE. NO GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SMITHA. I WILL NOT GO WHAT'S NAME AGAIN. UH SMITHA THANK YOU. I WILL NOT GO INTO THE NUMEROUS REASONS WHY I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSITIONS LIKE MANY OTHERS BEFORE AND AFTER ME THAT IS ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED. INSTEAD, I WANT TO GO INTO A MORE PERSONAL REASON. I LIKE MANY OTHERS, EVEN SOME [00:30:01] OF YOU WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL HAD MY SIGNATURE AND IDENTITY DEFRAUDED. HOW CAN WE TRUST A DEVELOPER WHO IS WILLING TO GO TO SUCH LENGTHS AND USING MISGUIDING TACTICS TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE SUPPORT, WHICH ESPECIALLY, AT LEAST IN MY CASE IS NOT TRUE ALREADY WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS ON BEACH AND IMPERIAL TRAFFIC AND NOISE HAVE WORSENED. WHAT USED TO BE A QUIET AND PEACEFUL CITY IS NOW SLOWLY TURNING INTO QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THERE'S ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN LAHABRA AND OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ALREADY, PLEASE, THERE IS NO NEED TO APPROVE MORE DEVELOPMENT. INSTEAD LET'S MAINTAIN THE BEAUTY AND THE GENDER THAT LA HARBOR IS. AND ESPECIALLY LET'S NOT SUPPORT AN OUT OF CITY DEVELOPER WHO IS CLAIMING THE IDENTITIES OF OUR COUNTLESS CITIZENS AS PART OF THEIR SELF SERVING PROPOSITIONS. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE EVENING. YOU HONORABLE MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS ALAN MACDONALD. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR IN LAHABRA FOR 20 YEARS. I PUBLISH A SMALL MAGAZINE THAT GOES TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AROUND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES IS HERE IN, UH, IN LAHABRA. UM, IT'S A SMALL READERSHIP AROUND 700 PEOPLE, BUT, UH, MY POINT AND WHY I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS THAT, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M PROBABLY MORE IN TUNE WITH THESE PEOPLE THAN YOU ARE BECAUSE I'M CLOSER TO THEM. AND I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I KNOW THE TEMPERATURE. I KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE FEEL. THESE ARE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA. AND UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT, THAT I HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH OPPOSE RANCHO LAHABRA, THEY ALL HAVE VARIETY OF REASONS WHY, UM, ONE OF THEM, AND I WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME HERE TO THE HARBOR BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE COMING TO A SMALLER COMMUNITY, A SMALLER, A PLACE WHERE HAD, WAS MORE OF A TOWN MENTALITY RATHER THAN THE BIG CITY. THEY CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM TRAFFIC, DIFFICULTY, FINDING PARKING LONG LINES. THEY LIKED THE CHARM OF THE TOWN, THE FESTIVALS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER THAT LAHABRA AND IN RECENT YEARS I'VE BEEN SEEING THAT CHANGE. I SEE A LOT OF OVERDEVELOPMENT EVERYWHERE. I LOOK, I SEE MORE MULTILEVEL HOUSING BUILDINGS GOING UP AND WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT ALL THESE PEOPLE? UM, THIS IS, YEAH, IT'S A GREAT, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT DEAL FOR THE ECONOMY OF THE, OF THE CITY. UM, IT'S GREAT FOR THE MERCHANTS. UM, BUT IT'S HORRIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE. AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, THEY REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT REVENUE. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT FISCAL OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT IS QUALITY OF LIFE. WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT IS SAFETY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AN EASY WAY OF LIFE, SUCH AS PARKING, HOW TO GET TO WORK ON TIME, NOT HAVING TO WAIT IN LONG LINES, LONG WAITS AT A RESTAURANT TO GET A TABLE. THESE ARE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF, OF DENSITY, POPULATION, HIGH DENSITY POPULATION. NOW IN, IN, IN THE, IN THE TIME THAT I'VE LIVED HERE IN LAHABRA, I'VE SEEN THE CHANGE ALREADY. [00:35:02] AND YOU KNOW, IT USED TO TAKE ME 30 MINUTES TO GET TO WORK. IT NOW TAKES ME 45 AND THAT'S PURELY BECAUSE OF INCREASING TRAFFIC LAMBERT, JUST TO GET TO THE 57 FREEWAY IN THE MORNING. YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRYING TO GET OUT OF, OUT OF A COMMUNITY HERE ON LAMBERT DURING RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE TEMPERATURE OF THE PEOPLE IS THEY LIKE THE CHARM OF THE CITY THAT THE CITY HAD, AND IT'S SLOWLY BEING ERODED WITH OVERDEVELOPMENT. AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS DEAL IS GREAT FOR THE DEVELOPER. IT'S GREAT FOR THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE $1.5 MILLION. YEAH, OF COURSE. YEAH. AND THEN ALL THE TAXES AND THE REVENUE. YEAH. GREAT. BUT REMEMBER THAT IT'S THE CITIZENS THAT VOTED FOR YOU TO BE AN OFFICE AND THEY WANT YOU TO PRESERVE A QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THEM, NOT TAKE IT AWAY. PEOPLE CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THE BIG CITY, FROM THE HIGH TRAFFIC, FROM, FROM, FROM THE POPULATION AND YOU'RE FORCING IT ON THEM. UM, ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, ONE MORE THING. I HEAR THIS A LOT. PEOPLE SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. RANCHO MIRAGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS, THIS IS A BIG DOG AND PONY SHOW. CITY COUNCIL WANTS THIS DEAL TO GO. THE CITIZENS REALLY DON'T MATTER. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE TELL ME. YOU CAN'T FIGHT CITY HALL. YOU'VE HEARD THAT. WE'VE ALL HEARD. THAT'S AN OLD THING. WELL, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME, YOU CAN GO THERE AND TALK. THAT'S NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. THAT DEAL IS GOING TO GO. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE WANT. IT'S ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND AND REVENUE MONEY DRIVES THE WORLD. SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS PUT ON YOUR HAT OF INTEGRITY AND REMEMBER THE PEOPLE. YEAH, THIS, THIS IS GREAT FOR THE MERCHANTS. IT'S GREAT FOR COMMERCE, LOTS OF PEOPLE. YEAH. LET'S FILL THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE AND, AND AL AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT I NEVER SEE ANYBODY TALK ABOUT IS NOISE, NOISE, UM, UH, NOISE POLLUTION, YOU KNOW, JUST THE NOISE POLLUTION IS ALREADY THROUGH THE ROOF. HERE. WE HAVE, WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT YOU KNOW, CARS WERE ILLEGAL, MODIFIED, EXHAUST THAT THEY'RE JUST RIDICULOUSLY LOUD. I CAN HEAR THEM FROM TWO MILES AWAY. PEOPLE CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. IF YOU LIVE CLOSE TO THE STREET AND NOTHING'S BEING DONE ABOUT THAT, THIS CITY'S GOVERNMENT IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT NOISE POLLUTION. IT'S NOT ENFORCING THE EMISSIONS LAWS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO OFF ON A TANGENT THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, NOISE POLLUTION IS ONE OF THE THINGS AND, AND NOT, NOT JUST NOISE POLLUTION, BUT POLLUTION OVERALL, WHEN YOU HAVE HIGH DENSITY POPULATION. SO PEOPLE WANT WHAT PEOPLE WANT, IF THEY WANT, THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT IS SAFE. A CITY THAT IS CLEAN. THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY WHERE THEY CAN GO TO THE STORE AND FIND PARKING AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT IN LINES. PEOPLE HERE CARE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. [00:40:24] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SALT MILNER HISTORY, A PROUD AMERICAN AND A LA HARBOR CITIZEN. UH, LAST NIGHTS ARE REDUNDANT AND REPETITIVE LECTURE, UH, WAS ENDLESS. SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE YOU ALL HERE AGAIN. AND I KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT ENDLESS LECTURES. I STUDIED ECONOMICS AT USC. UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BASED ON, UM, UH, SOME THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY. I'M A PRIVATE PILOT AND I'VE SEEN LAHABRA, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT HARBOR FROM THE GROUND, AS WELL AS FROM THE AIR. UH, THE GOLF COURSE OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN LAHABRA IS INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE FROM THE AIR AND FROM THE GROUND ITSELF. UM, LAST NIGHT YOU HAD A LOT OF, UH, TALK ABOUT THE, UH, LYNN, OUR BUILDING, THE CROWN JEWEL OF LAHABRA. I CAN SAY THAT THE CROWN JEWEL OF LAHABRA IS THE OPEN SPACE, THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF, IT'S NOT NEW HOUSES OR NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, CITY COUNCIL. I THINK ALSO THE LAST I'D HEARD OR KNOWS FIRSTHAND OF HOW SIGNATURES ARE FORGED. MY WIFE THAT JUST SPOKE MOMENTS AGO ALSO HAD HER SIGNATURE FORGED. WHEN I SAW HER SIGNATURE ON THAT ROSTER, I WAS SHOCKED. THERE WAS NO WAY THAT SHE COULD HAVE SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OF HER. SO THE ONLY ANSWER IS FRAUD. I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO ADD TO THIS COUNCIL. IF YOU KNEW THERE WAS RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD, WOULD YOU NOT INVESTIGATE THAT ISSUE OR THROW OUT THE RESULTS? AND SO HERE YOU HAD LAST NIGHT, LINDA ARE PRESENT SO MANY SUPPORTING SIGNATURES AND LETTERS, AS THEY SAY, BUT TURNS OUT THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE FORGED OR FRAUD AS IT HAS AFFECTED ME PERSONALLY, AND MY FAMILY PERSONALLY, AND SOME OF YOU. SO I URGE YOU TO THROW OUT THE SUPPORT LETTERS AND MAKE THIS, MAKE THIS DECISION BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE NOW AND WHAT YOU HEAR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE WE READY? HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTINE COOK. I'M SURE YOU'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH ME. I'VE BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER AND FATHER DUE TO THEIR AGE. IT'S NOT REALLY SAFE FOR THEM TO BE WAITING OUTSIDE FOR HOURS TO SPEAK. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE RANCHO LA HABRA RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT 1400 SOUTH LA HARBOR HILLS DRIVE. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGE IN LAND USE DESIGNATION, ADOPTION OF THE RANCHO LA HARBOR SPECIFIC PLAN, AND THEN THE AMENDMENTS, ANY ZONE CHANGES, DESIGN REVIEWS, AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THERE ARE NUMEROUS ISSUES IDENTIFIED WITH THE THREE CIRCULATED EIRS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT WASN'T ON MY ORIGINAL SPEECH WAS THE FRAUD. UM, WHEN THOSE SUPPORT LETTERS CAME OUT, WE WERE EXTREMELY CONFUSED AND SURPRISED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM. NOWHERE. HAS THERE BEEN A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THE HOMBRE FOR THIS PROJECT? SO MARIBEL AND I READ THROUGH THE NINE SECTIONS OF 558 PAGES, EACH SECTION, AND DISCOVERED THE SAME NAMES AND ADDRESSES IN THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, HANDWRITING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THEN WE REALIZED IN SECTION NINE, TONS OF WESTBRIDGE, UM, SUPPORTERS THAT WEREN'T TRUE. AND THEN WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED AT EITHER SPROUTS OR WALMART, WE WERE TOLD WE WERE SIGNING IN THE FACT THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE GOLF COURSE. SO I WANT THIS TO BE VERY [00:45:01] CLEAR THAT IT IS CRAP, THESE LETTERS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE RECORD. IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THE DETAILED, UM, CITY COUNCIL, UH, AGENDA THAT YOU HAVE. IT SAYS IN THE DETAILED AGENDA, THAT THERE'S 6,000 LETTERS OF SUPPORT, AND IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. PERHAPS IT'S MORE TRUE. WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THE LAHABRA, UM, BUSINESS JOURNAL. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, BEING A QUALITY OF LIFE, IT WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHED OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA WE IN LAHABRA, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, WE DON'T WANT TO SMELL ALL THE POLLUTION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF SITE GRADING AND PREPARATION OF THE SOIL. WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO HEAR AND SEE AND BE REROUTED FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. I WORK FROM HOME AS I HAVE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS. I CANNOT IMAGINE LISTENING TO DAILY CONSTRUCTION, BEEPING, HAMMERING, THOSE BACKUP TRUCK NOISES. UM, THE ANNOYING GRINDING SOUNDS FOR SIX YEARS AND SIX DAYS A WEEK, THEY CAN BASICALLY WORK FROM SUNRISE TO SUNDOWN. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE? UM, I'VE CHOSEN TO LIVE IN A LESS DENSE, CLEANER, SMALLER, SUBURBAN AREA FOR A REASON. I DROVE TO VERNON FOR 20 YEARS AND COMMERCE. I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. AND, AND, AND I CHOSE TO LIVE HERE FOR THAT REASON, CAUSE IT'S QUIETER, SMALLER, NICER. UM, THE, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL SIGNIFICANTLY POLLUTE THE AIR WITH TRAFFIC. THERE'LL BE TRAFFIC CONSTRUCTION, DIESEL EXHAUST, AND THESE ODORS WILL FILL THE AIR FROM THE UNDERGROUND METHANE FUEL AND OTHER BIOLOGY IN THE SOIL. WESTBRIDGE IS ALSO A LITTLE HIGHER AND THEREFORE THE WIND BLOWS A LOT AND THINGS MOVE AROUND. THIS WILL AFFECT US SIMPLE THINGS. I LIKE TO GARDEN IN MY YARD. WILL I BE ABLE TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW. WILL IT BE SAFE ME TO EAT MY VEGETABLES? I DON'T KNOW. I DOUBT IT. UM, I PURCHASED A WHOLE HOUSE FAN TO COOL MY HOUSE A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURALLY THAN JUST RUNNING AN AIR CONDITIONER. WELL, I JUST BE SUCKING IN DUST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ALL THE BIRDS THAT SINGLE DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE'LL BE DESTROYING THEIR HABITAT, THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO PROTECT FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS PERSONALLY. UM, I LIVE ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD AND WE'VE ENJOYED THE BREEZE AND IT'S JUST NICE. I HAVE A POOL I ENJOY, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR SIX YEARS. IT'S ALSO VERY LOUD TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A BEDROOM WINDOW ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY DON'T TELL YOU. YOU DON'T GO. AND PROBABLY BEFORE YOU BUY A HOME, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY GO LAY IN THE BEDROOM AT NIGHT IN THE DARK AND LISTEN TO SEE IF YOU CAN HEAR A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE CAN, MMM. NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO LOSING THE THIRD ENTRANCE TO WESTRIDGE ON LAHABRA HILLS DRIVE FOR SIX YEARS, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON BEACH BOULEVARD. AND THAT CUT THROUGH IS REALLY NICE. IT SAVES PEOPLE TIME AND IT KEEPS TRAFFIC OFF THE ROADS, BUT WE'LL BE FORCED ON THE BEACH BOULEVARD IN IDAHO ADDING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE GOLF COURSE REMOVED. WE LIKE OUR QUIET LIFE IN LAHABRA. WE DON'T WANT LENORE TO COME IN AND GET AWAY WITH DESTROYING THE NATURAL WILDLIFE AND GETTING RID OF THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. THEY'RE THERE FOR A REASON. THEY'RE THERE TO PROTECT ENDANGERED SPECIES RIGHT NOW DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE OUR OPEN SPACE. IT REALLY HAS HELPED THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN, IN, IN BAD TIMES, GOLFERS WERE ALSO ABLE TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS. IF LANARK CONSTRUCTS HOMES FOR SIX YEARS, WE WILL HAVE LITTLE QUALITY OF LIFE AS RETIREES AND OTHERS WORKING FROM HOME. I KNOW THIS BY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I LIVED IN WEST HILLS OFF OF IDAHO, WHEN WESTBRIDGE WAS BUILT, IT WAS LOUD. IT WAS VERY DUSTY. I CONSTANTLY HAD RODENTS COMING INTO MY HOME. AND IN 1999, [00:50:01] IN 2000, BOTH MY NEIGHBORS AND MY DOG GOT SICK. THEY HAD ALLERGIES IN SKIN CONDITIONS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THEY NEEDED SHOTS, PILLS, AND CREAMS. THIS SUMMER, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS BUILT A POOL IN HER BACKYARD AND HER DOG SUDDENLY BECAME ILL AND ALSO DIED IN LESS THAN A WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COINCIDENCE, BUT I DON'T TRUST THE SOIL. SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS GREAT PARK FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE A FEW NICE PARKS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THIS PARK CALLED VISTA DEL VALLEY PARK ON THE WEST RIDGE SIDE OF IDAHO THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY OUR DEVELOPER. THAT WAS OUR LITTLE BONE THAT WE GOT IT'S AT ONE OH ONE, 1005 WEST PRISONER WAY. AND IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO OFFER. IT'S ABSOLUTELY AN EYESORE AND ACTUALLY TRANSIENTS GO THERE AND OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES HAPPEN THERE. I'VE ALSO HEARD LAMAR DOESN'T WANT TO BUILD COMMERCIAL PROJECTS DUE TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. AND THUS, THEY'LL JUST BE ADDING MORE DWELLING UNITS. INSTEAD. I BELIEVE THEY WOULD LIKE APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES ALL ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD, PROBABLY FROM ARCO ALL THE WAY TO SAM'S CLUB. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE. ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INCREASE IN CROWDING. I CAN SEE THAT IN THEIR PLANNING AREA. NUMBER TWO, UM, THESE HOMES ARE 2,600 SQUARE FEET ALL THE WAY TO 2,800 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY'RE ONLY PROVIDING FOR TWO GARAGE SPACES. THE HOMES IN WEST RICH HAWKS POINT WEST HILLS HAVE MOSTLY THREE GARAGE HOMES. HOMES OF THAT SIZE HAVE MORE THAN TWO CARS IN THEM. ALSO THE LOT SIZES ARE EXTREMELY SMALL. THIS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO A CROWDED STREET AND ALREADY COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. REALLY. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN REVIEW. THEY JUST WANT TO CRAM IN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. UM, ANYWAY, THE BUILDING, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL FURTHER BORT BURDEN. OUR CURRENT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN LAHABRA. LAHABRA HAD TWO DAYS OF EXTREME HEAT IN SEPTEMBER AND MANY HOMES LOST POWER FOR DAYS. THIS IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE. AND WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITH AN ADDITIONAL 1100 HOMES, BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK OF THE FULLERTON SIDE AND COYOTE HILLS WHEN THOSE HOMES ARE BUILT. I NOW WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE HOMES WILL NOT BE AFFORDABLE FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS. AND I'LL EXPLAIN IN SEPTEMBER THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER HAD A NEWS ARTICLE STATING THAT THE COST OF LUMBER HAD INCREASED 227% FROM APRIL TO AUGUST. NOW, YES, THE PRICE HAS COME DOWN A LITTLE, NOT A WHOLE LOT. AND THEN THERE'S BEEN THESE FIRES. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS WOOD FROM? I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO GROW SOME TREES, UM, THAT INCREASE IN LUMBER INCREASED THE SA INCREASED THE PRICE OF A HOME $16,000 FOR A 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOME. BOOM, THERE YOU GO. ANOTHER $16,000. ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WANTS THE CITY TO CONSIDER FORMING A COMMUNITY FACILITIES, DISTRICTS, DISTRICT KNOWN AS A C F D. I AM UNAWARE OF ANY CFDS IN LAHABRA CURRENTLY. I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF ANY REALLY AROUND HERE IN, IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS PROPOSAL IS SUBJECT TO A SEPARATE DISCUSSIONARY APPROVAL PROCESS. AND THEN IT, IT, WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO IS TO FUND PUBLIC ROADS, SEWERS INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT, RENOVATIONS TO THE GOLF, UH, GOLF CLUBHOUSE IN ORDER TO CONVERT IT TO A NEW COMMUNITY CENTER, BUILDING CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC PARK AND TRAILS INTO FUND THAT CONTINUED ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OF THE PUBLIC PARKS COMMUNITY CENTER, PARKING PUBLIC LOT AND MEDIANS ON THE PROJECT SITE. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOME HOMES, BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES IT ALL WORK WELL. THAT'S GREAT. SO THE SPECIAL ANNUAL TAX IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO ALL THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY TAX BILLS. DOES, DOES ANYBODY REALIZE WHAT THAT COSTS A YEAR? IT'S GOING TO COST BETWEEN $2,220 AND $3,444 [00:55:03] A UNIT. BOOM. THERE YOU GO. LET'S ADD THAT ONE ON, UM, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TAX IT'S CALLED THE ANNUAL PARK TRAIL AND COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE, WHICH HAS ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY $935 PER UNIT. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S AFFORDABLE. MOST NEWLY, UH, NEWER BUILT COMMUNITIES HAVE THESE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. CURRENTLY HAWKS POINT RESIDENTS PAY $260 A MONTH FOR THEIR DUES. HAWKS POINT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, PERHAPS BECAUSE IT TOO OFFERS EXTENSIVE TRAILS FOR MILES AROUND THE HOMES THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. IT'S PUBLIC. MOST OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN THE $200 RANGE. SO THERE YOU GO. THERE'S A FEW EXPENDITURES. IN 2002, I PURCHASED MY HOME. MY HOME WARRANTY WAS FOR 10 YEARS, TWO YEARS AGO, A FRIEND OF MINE PURCHASED HER LAND, OUR HOME IN BUCKEYE, ARIZONA, HER WARRANTY ONE YEAR, I WONDER WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN THESE HOMES. DO THE MATH ON THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS TO HOME OWNERSHIP IN RANCHO LAHABRA. IT IS NOT AFFORDABLE ALSO. I'M SORRY, I'M TAKING A LONG TIME IN OCTOBER, GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOME SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO PROTECT NEARLY A THIRD OF CALIFORNIA'S LAND AND COASTAL WATERS IN HIS EFFORT TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND HE'S HE, HE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, WILDFIRES, IT'S ALL CLIMATE CHANGE. AND HE'S ACTUALLY ASKING STATE AGENCIES TO PURSUE ACTIONS THAT WILL USE STATE'S LAND AND WATERS TO ABSORB CLIMATE WARMING CARBON FROM THE ATMOSPHERE. HE WANTS TO PROTECT 30% OF THE EARTH. HE THINKS THE STATE CAN REACH 30% GOAL BY FURTHER CONSERVATION EFFORTS ON PUBLIC LANDS. ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA NATURAL RESOURCE AGENCY, THEY WANT TO GET PRIVATE LANDOWNERS AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO IMPROVE CONSERVATION FOR THE ROLES OF TREES, SOILS, AND WETLANDS THAT PLAY IN ABSORBING CARBON. THINK ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING GREAT TO KEEP TREES AND GRASS AND KEEP CLEAN AIR, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE ADDITION OF THIS WILL ALSO BLOW AWAY ALL THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GREENHOUSE GASES AND POLLUTION AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I ALREADY SPOKE OF THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN. I KNOW IT KNOW A LOT OF YOU CAN'T LISTEN ON FACEBOOK AND YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED. HE CAN'T BE LISTENING TO, TO, TO TALK, BUT WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS AND WE KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WANT IN LAHABRA. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE RESPONSE TO THE KWAN FAMILY. I UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHT, BUT I HAVE TO SAY, YOU SAY YOU HAVE LESS BUSINESS, BUT BETWEEN OCTOBER, 2017 AND MARCH OF 2018, THE GOLF COURSE SIGN ALONG BEACH BOULEVARD FELL DOWN. I WATCHED IT, IT LAID IN THE DIRT FOR OVER A YEAR. IT JUST LAID THERE BIG, OLD SIDE. IT WAS NEVER RE-INSTALLED. THEY HAVE NO PLANS AND WANTING ANYBODY TO COME TO THEIR GOLF COURSE FOR OVER 10 YEARS BEFORE 2017, THE SIGN SAID WELCOME TO THE HOMBRE WESTRIDGE GOLF CLUB, GOLF COURSE ENTRY LOCATED OFF IMPERIAL HIGHWAY AT LA HARBOR HILLS DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW. THEY, THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOLF COURSE. THERE ALSO LAST YEAR, THE GOLF COURSE WAS NOT USING THE WATER THAT THEY SAID THEY NEEDED TO USE. AND AS A RESULT, THE WATER TANKS BY WEST RIDGE BECAME CONTAMINATED AND THE CITY HAD TO COME IN AND DRAIN THE WATER TANKS CONTINUOUSLY USING THE WEST RIDGE FIRE HYDRANTS. I KNOW THAT AS A FACT, I LIVED THERE. UM, I COULD TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE EARTHQUAKE SAFETY AND [01:00:01] EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I'M NOT, YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL. I JUST REALLY WANT YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT YOUR CITY AND YOUR PEOPLE AND REALLY DO WHAT'S BEST. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I RESPECT YOU ALL. I RESPECT YOUR DECISIONS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK OR SHOULD WE GO ANOTHER 15 MINUTES OR SO EVERYBODY GOOD, GOOD DEAL. MAIL BEAMISH AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS NANTONG AND MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE AT 1641 WESTERN NICHOLAS AVENUE IN LAHABRA. WE BOUGHT A HOME FROM THE LAW 20 YEARS AGO, AND I ORIGINAL OWNERS. I RECENTLY BECAME AWARE THAT THE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT LETTERS SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER TO THE COUNSEL ON SEPTEMBER NINE, 2020 INCLUDED A RENTAL LETTER READING MY SON'S NAME AND MY ADDRESS, MY SON, DANIEL JOHN LIVES IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, AND HAS NOT BEEN IN CALI CALIFORNIA FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS. DO YOU DO COFFEE? HE DID NOT SIGN. THIS FORM IS NOT HIS HANDWRITING. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE LABRA COUNCIL TECHNOLOGY, THE, MY SON, DANIEL, JOHN, IS NOT A SUPPORTER OF RANCHO LA HABRA, AND HE IS INFURIATED THAT SOMEONE WOULD FRAUDULENTLY SIGN HIS NAME, MY SON SANTO BDO. SO YOU CAN HEAR FROM HIM DIRECTLY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CORRECT THE RECORD. THANK YOU. GREETINGS TO THE MAYOR AND THE HARBOR CITY COUNCIL BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION. MY NAME IS DANIEL. JOHN. I AM THE SON OF GIN AND NAM, JOHN, WHO DO RESIDE AT 1641 WEST NICHOLAS AVENUE, UH, IN LAHABRA I MYSELF LIVE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA. AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND I'VE NOT BEEN BACK IN CALIFORNIA SINCE DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE PAST 10 MONTHS DUE TO COVEN. THEREFORE, I WAS SHOCKED WHEN MY PARENTS SENT ME A LETTER OR THE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT THAT HAS MY NAME AND MY SIGNATURE FOR THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT DEVELOPED FOR LETTER HOMES AND WAS SUBMITTED TO THE HARPER CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DID NOT SIGN THIS. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN CALIFORNIA FOR THE PAST 10 MONTHS. UH, THIS IS MY ACTUAL SIGNATURE. YOU CAN SEE DOES NOT MATCH THE SIGNATURE THAT WHOEVER FORGED THIS ON THIS DOCUMENT WROTE, I SAY THIS BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE LAHABRA RANCHO PROJECT. I FIND THIS BEHAVIOR TO BE HIGHLY UNETHICAL AND, UM, FRAUDULENT. AND ONCE YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT, I DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE DEALING WITH A COMPANY THAT'S WANTING TO GO TO THIS LENGTH, LYING AND FRASER BEHAVIOR TO TRY [01:05:01] TO GET THEIR PROJECT THROUGH. SO WITH THAT, PLEASE KEEP SAFE AND HEALTHY AND GOODBYE FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CLARA CRUZ. I'M A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF LA HABRA. UH, I LIVE IN THE CITY. I CAME HERE TODAY BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT NOBODY TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING ME OR THE LATINO COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I WANT THE CITY TO KEEP THAT OPEN SPACE ON THAT SPACE EXISTS HABITATS OF DIFFERENT TYPES LIKE BIRDS AND OTHER ANIMALS. I ALSO WANT, I DON'T WANT MORE TRAFFIC AND I DON'T WANT MORE POLLUTION. I TALKED TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ALSO LIVE IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA. MY NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF FULLERTON THAT ALSO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE AREA WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. THEY DO NOT WANT THE LAND TO BE DEVELOPED EITHER. SO I URGENTLY ASK YOU TO PLEASE STOP THIS. NOW DON'T TELL YOURSELF TO THIS. KEEP THE LAND OPEN SPACE, LIKE THE WAY IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE THIS TIME. I'VE MOVED TO LA HABRA 60 PLUS YEARS AGO. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. I'M SO SORRY. D L SESAR D L SESAR. GOT IT. THANK YOU. AT THAT POINT, THERE WAS PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE. I MEAN, WE HAD CATTLE ON IMPERIAL. THERE WAS NO IMPERIAL. WE HAD ORANGE GROVES ON LAMBERT. LAMBERT WAS JUST A LITTLE ONE WAY STREET. AND I HAVE CONTACTED YOU OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE I HAVE FELT INCREASINGLY YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR OPEN SPACES. AND WITH THIS NEW PROJECT, YOU'LL BE DESTROYING THE MAJORITY IN ONE SPOT THAT WE HAVE, ACCORDING TO THE PAPERWORK, IT SAYS THAT LENORE CAN BUILD ONE TO EIGHT HOUSES PER ACRE. WELL, ONCE THEY GET THIS APPROVAL, WHAT STOPS THEM FROM PUTTING EIGHT HOUSES ON AN ACRE? LAHABRA ALREADY HAS EIGHT, OVER 8,000 PEOPLE PER SQUARE MILE. WELL, HARBOR'S NOT VERY BIG. SO THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE CRAMMED ALL TOGETHER AND THE WILDLIFE. YES, I KNOW THEY HAVE THIS LITTLE PRESERVE AREA. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT? IS THAT THE CITY ARE WE HIRING IT OUT? WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE COYOTES THAT RUN OUR STREETS DAY AND NIGHT? AND IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL AND HAVE SMALL ANIMALS, YOU WON'T HAVE THEM VERY LONG. THE PROBLEM WILL ONLY GET WORSE WITH THE PROJECTED HOUSING AND WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE WHEN THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS BECOME ILL DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND EVEN YEARS LATER, WHO DO THEY GO TO? WHO'S GOING TO HELP SUPPORT THEM, PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS. YOUR PLAN IS TO DIG UP [01:10:01] WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN CAPPED AND RECAP IT AND SINK IT DOWN 20 FEET. WELL, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO THE PUBLIC? WHAT ABOUT EARTHQUAKES? YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE EARTHQUAKES HERE. I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THIS. WHAT WILL THAT DO TO THE 20 FOOT DEPTH HOLES TO CHANGE SUBJECTS? I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MANY HOMES ARE NEEDED TO GUARANTEE THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE, NEW FUNDS THAT YOU PREDICT. $1.2 MILLION ANNUALLY IS THE CONSTRUCTION GIVING US THAT MUCH MONEY. ARE YOU GOING TO TAX THE REST OF US AND ALL THE NEW HOUSING TO DEATH TO GET THAT MONEY? I BELIEVE LINDAR IS GREEDY. IT WILL BE AT THE CITIZENS EXPENSE. AND I DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TOLD US THE WHOLE TRUTH. AND WHAT ABOUT THE INFLATED AMOUNTS THAT THEY HAVE ADVERTISED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO GET $1.2 MILLION ANNUALLY. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER $50 MILLION GOING TO OUR SCHOOLS OVER 10 YEARS. ARE THEY DONATING THAT MONEY TO US ALSO? OR IS AGAIN, ARE WE GOING TO BE OVERLY TAXED FOR ALL OF THIS AND TRAFFIC? ARE YOU KIDDING ME AT THE MOMENT? IT TAKES ME ALMOST FOUR FULL SIGNALS TO TRAVEL THE BEAT IN IMPERIAL INTERSECTION. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. WE WANT MORE OPEN SPACE AS A PUBLIC CITIZENS WORKERS. WE NEED MORE PUBLIC SPACE. WE NEED SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY RELAX WHEN WE GET HOME, BECAUSE HEAVEN KNOWS THAT WE FOUGHT THE TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY HOME. AND YET I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. I SEE US LOSING MORE PUBLIC SPACE. I LIVE AND DRIVE PAST OR WESTIE PARK, WHICH IS ON LAMBERT AT MARTINEZ STREET. I HAVE SEEN A WESTIE PARK STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IT HAS BEEN TORN UP FOR OVER A YEAR. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR FIXING THAT AND THESE NEW PARKS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOES ARE THEY GOING TO BECOME SO DISREPAIR THAT NOBODY CAN USE THEM? CHILDREN CAN'T PLAY ON THEM. YOU CAN'T WALK ON THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE GROUNDS ALL TORN UP. I DON'T UNDERSTAND NEEDLESS TO SAY, I AM NOT FOR THIS PROJECT. WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE? TAKING CARE OF A LOT MORE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT GIVEN ME ANY DIRECTION TO LOOK AT THE OTHER DAY. LENORE SAID ACTUALLY YESTERDAY, WELL, NO, HE ACTUALLY SAID IT IN SEPTEMBER, ALSO THAT AS RESIDENTS, WE ARE GREEDY AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES FOR WANTING TO DENY OTHER PEOPLE, THE AMERICAN DREAM. I'M NOT ASHAMED OF WANTING MY OPEN SPACE SO I CAN SEE AND ENJOY NATURE INSTEAD OF MORE AND MORE HOMES BEING BUILT. I'M NOT AGAINST ANYONE FROM GOING AFTER THEIR AMERICAN DREAM, BUT I DON'T THINK I SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THE COST FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DEATH AND THE DESTRUCTION AROUND. AND THAT WAS JUST IN THE FIRST SECTION THAT THEY DID. I MEAN, I AM. SO SOMEBODY SAID HER HOUSE WAS FULL OF RODENTS. YEAH. I'M THERE RIGHT WITH HER, WITH HER. WE COULDN'T GET RID OF THEM BECAUSE THE MORE THEY DUG OVER HERE, THE MORE THEY CAME UP OVER THERE. ANOTHER THING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, COME ON, GUYS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR [01:15:01] SINGLE MOMS, SINGLE DADS, JUST YOUNG PEOPLE STARTING OUT 500, 600,000. THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE. ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS, JUST 25% OF HOUSEHOLDS CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO PURCHASE A MEDIUM PRICED HOME IN ORANGE COUNTY. AND LASTLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I LET YOU KNOW, I TAKE OFFENSE AT BEING CALLED IN A VERY NEGATIVE TONE, A PROTESTER, BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN YOU. I, A LONGTIME RESIDENT, I CARE ABOUT MY CITY AND I'VE PROBABLY LIVED HERE LONGER THAN ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN BORN. SO PLEASE LISTEN TO US. WE DON'T WANT THIS. I WAS SO THRILLED WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED DOWN FOUR TO ONE, THIS PROPOSITION, AND YES, I WAS ON ZOOM EVERY SINGLE NIGHT IN THAT MEETING. SO PLEASE, THIS SHOULD BE SETTLED. THAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M REALLY SORRY. YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THAT, BUT IT'S JUST THIS SIMPLE, DON'T TAKE AWAY WHAT LITTLE LAND WE HAVE LEFT IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO OUR HEALTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. THANK YOU. THE GATES INVITE YOU THE VIEWS. RELAX YOU. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? RAFAEL GARCIA. I LIVE ON FLOYD COURT IN WEST RIDGE. THANK YOU. THE GATES INVITE YOU THE VIEWS, RELAX YOU, YOUR FAMILY GREETS YOU YOUR HOME. WELCOME TO THE SUMMIT AT WESTRIDGE CROWNING, A BEAUTIFUL HILLSIDE ABOVE THE FAMILY ORIENTATED COMMUNITY OF LAHABRA. THE SUMMIT TAKES FULL ADVANTAGE OF ITS OUTSTANDING LOCATION. BY OFFERING BREATHTAKING VESTAS AT WESTBRIDGE IS LUSH GOLF COURSE BELOW AND PANORAMAS THAT STRETCH TO THE DRAMATIC SKYLINE AND SHIMMERING CITY LIGHTS OF DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES, JUST 20 MINUTES TO THE NORTH IN 1999, BEING MARRIED LESS THAN ONE YEAR. MY BRIDE AND I PURCHASED A LAND. OUR HOME IN WESTRIDGE. OUR FIRST CHILD WAS BORN THREE MONTHS LATER YESTERDAY, LANARK STATED THEY WANTED TO BE THE PROVIDER OF HOMES TO NEW FAMILIES JUST STARTING OUT 21 YEARS AGO, WE WERE THAT FAMILY. IT WAS MARKETED AS A GOLF COURSE, ENHANCED COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR YOUNG FAMILY. MY WIFE AND I BOTH STARTED WORKING IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. SHE SOLD HER MUTUAL FUNDS AND I SOLD OFF SOME OF MY PRINTING EQUIPMENT. AND WE HAD ENOUGH FOR A DOWN PAYMENT FOR A NON GOLF COURSE VIEW BECAUSE LEONARA CHARGED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR PREMIUM OF WHICH SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS SAVE THE ENTIRE LIVES TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY. NOW TODAY, 20 YEARS LATER, LENORA'S BACK TRYING TO RECAPTURE THE GOLF COURSE AND ITS OPEN SPACES, WHICH ARE PROBABLY THE LEAST PROMOTED. AND IT'S MARKETING USING THEIR MONEY AND INFLUENCE TO REZONE THE AREA AGAINST THE WILL OF THE LAW OF THE RESIDENCE OF LIBRE. [01:20:01] LENORE HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT NEVER ASKED THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA OR ITS PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS OF 20 YEARS. IF IS THIS WHAT WE WANTED? INSTEAD, I FEEL THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARDS LAHABRA WAS HOW LUCKY WE ARE THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING ALL HIGH DENSITY HOUSING OR THAT WE LET THE GOLF COURSE CALLED BROWN. AND WHAT A FAVOR WE'RE DOING TO LAHARA TO WARD OFF THE LAWSUITS FOR SIMPLY SAYING NO, THANK YOU. AND I START TO WONDER, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DESERVE SUCH GENEROSITY? LANARK CLAIMS ARE AS PUBLIC SUPPORT, BUT THIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE. I HAVE HERE A QUESTIONNAIRE THAT HAS MIRACULOUSLY STATES THAT I AM A SUPPORTER, BUT I AM NOT. I WAS VERY UPSET TO FIND OUT THAT MY SIGNATURE WAS FORGED. IN FACT, THERE ARE THREE OTHER SURVEYS USING MY ADDRESS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN FORGED OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT LIVE IN MY HOME. THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SUPPORT HAS BEEN FALSIFIED. THE DEVELOPER'S STATED YESTERDAY'S PRESENTATION THAT THEY WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TRUTH AND FACTS. THE FACTS ARE THE 11,000 SUPPORT LETTERS ARE FORGED AND FRAUDULENT. I ALONE HAVE FOUR LETTERS AND I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SIMPLY SAY NO TO REZONING TARANTULA HOMBRE. THE SUMMIT PRESENTS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY LIFE IN A LUXURIOUS NEW HOME WHILE REAPING THE BENEFITS OF LIVING IN AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY. A PRIME ADDRESS IN THE HEART OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT IS CLOSE TO POPULAR RESTAURANTS, VIBRANT SHOPS, BEAUTIFUL PARKS, MAJOR BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THE SUMMIT AT WESTBRIDGE ENJOY LIFE BEFORE LINDAR MAKES NEW PROMISES. HOW ABOUT THEY KEEP THE ONES THEY'VE ALREADY MADE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU WITH THAT. WE'LL TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES OR SO. THANK YOU. PACK IN RECESS AND READY FOR THE NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGERS, CITY CLUBS, EVERYONE WHO IS HERE. THIS IS . WHAT'S YOUR NAME PLEASE? I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME. OKAY. I WOULDN'T MY GLASSES ON ME FIRST ABOUT DAVE . I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY WIFE. AND WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? BALL DAY DEMON. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UH, MY WIFE HAD AN EYE SURGERY. SHE WAS HERE LAST NIGHT, SO SHE COULDN'T COME TODAY. AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HER. SHE GOT HURT VERY BADLY MENTALLY BECAUSE OF FORGE SIGNATURE. WE'VE BEEN IN LA HABRA FOR THE LAST 26 YEARS. THIS THING NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN SEATTLE. HER SIGNATURE HAS BEEN ALSO THE FRIDAY. LAST NIGHT, SOMEONE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE SHIRTS AND 10,000 SIGNATURES. SO THOSE 10,000 SIGNATURES COULD BE ALL FORGED IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT THROUGH. I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MANY THINGS IN HERE BASED ON FRAUD SIGNATURES. THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE STOPPED BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET THE PROJECT DONE FOR OUR SIGNATURE CAN BE MILLION SIGNATURES. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST MR. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE CONSIDER A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE YOU DECIDE FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. [01:25:06] MY NAME IS VINOD AND BUSTA. I LIVE IN 1901 SOUTH HAGEN INVESTED COMMUNITY. FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING HERE TO SPEAKING ABOUT THIS FRAUDULENT SIGNATURES. I REALLY COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT. UH, THAT'S UH, SO MANY, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE PROBABLY FOR AN HOUR OR AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX OF PEOPLE. THEY MENTIONED THESE FRAUDULENT SIGNATURES. I'M A, UM, PHYSICIAN. I WORK FOR KAISER AND I'M A PULMONOLOGIST, A LUNG SPECIALIST. UH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A DOCTOR TO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF CLEAN AIR ON THE FACT THAT EVEN WITH THIS SIZE ROOM, I HAVE TO PUT THIS MASK ON AND ALL A FEW SITTING, EVEN SO FAR AWAY FROM ME, HAVE YOUR MASK ON THE SHOWS, WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF THE AIR GETS DIRTY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING HERE IS THE DENSITY DENSITY OF THE POPULATION THAT BRINGS THE QUALITY OF LIFE DOWN. THERE IS NOT A ROCKET SCIENCE. IT'S VERY, QUITE CLEAR TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE. NOW THERE ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO BALANCE, OF COURSE THERE ARE NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, BUT DO WE REALLY HAVE THAT KIND OF NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAVE TO EVEN CONSIDER BUILDING NEW HOUSES YESTERDAY? I WAS WATCHING THE PRESENTATION BY, UM, THE DEVELOPERS AND I DON'T REALLY BLAME THEM. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF FLASHY PRESENTATION, BUT IN THAT PRESENTATION I HEARD, THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE IS ENOUGH, UH, THERE ENOUGH CAPACITY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO IF THERE IS ENOUGH CAPACITY IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT MEANS YOU PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH SPACE HERE ALREADY WHERE YOU CAN PUT, PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE CAN LIVE. SO I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT INSTEAD OF ALL OF US COMING, AND I SEE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE, UH, ARE FROM THE WEST RIDGE COMMUNITY. UH, BUT IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, HULA THE HARBOR. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. MAYBE THE, I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND IF THEY WOULD BE COMING THE COMMUNITY AND SAY THAT, LOOK, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO WANTS TO BUILD HERE, BUT THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU SHOULD ALL SAY THAT NO, THERE IS NO NEED TO BUILD THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO BUILD. I'M GOING. OF COURSE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT AN APPLICATION, BUT OUR, INCLUDING YOURS, WHEN I SAY OUR MEANS THIS COMMUNITY HAS TO THINK THAT WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OPEN THE SPACE. THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS VESTRY WAS BEING DEVELOPED AND THAT AREA WAS LEFT OPEN, I GUESS I WAS NOT THERE THAT TIME. SO I WOULD ADMIT THAT I'M JUST GUESSING IT, THAT THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME EVIL LEAVE, SOME OPEN SPACE. THIS WAS SOLD TO A PERSON WHO DEVELOPED A, UM, A GOLF COURSE. AND MAYBE, AND AGAIN, I DON'T PLAY GOLF, BUT I HEAR THAT PROBABLY THAT GAME IS NOT GETTING POPULAR NOW. AND MANY PEOPLE ARE SELLING AND SHE ALSO, IF SHE'S LOSING MONEY, I MUST ADMIT THAT SHE HAS A RIGHT TO SELL IT. BUT THEN THEY IT'S, IT'S THE COMMUNITY JOB, OUR JOB, INCLUDING YOURS. WHEN I SAY OUR MEANS THE SURGEONS AND THE, YOU ARE THE LEADERS OF THE CITIZENS, OUR JOB TO THINK THAT WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING WITH THAT, THAT LAND, THAT LAND, THAT IT WAS AN OPEN SPACE. BEAUTIFUL. AND IT'S IF NUMBER ONE, I THINK IF A FIGHT TANK REALLY FAIRLY WHEN THIS WHOLE PROPERTY WAS BEING DEVELOPED AND THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED AS A GOLF COURSE. I MEAN, IF I THINK IN THE, IF IN ALL FAIRNESS FOR THE WHOLE OF LAHABRA COMMUNITY, WHAT WAS GOOD TO DEVELOP IT AS A GOLF COURSE AND MAYBE DEVELOP IT TODAY AS A PARK, A BEAUTIFUL PARK FOR EVERYBODY, NOT FOR A FEW. AND IT MAY, YOU MAY LOSE SOME REVENUE. YOU MAY LOSE SOME MONEY, BUT [01:30:01] IF THIS ONE, THIS CITY IS IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AND ALL OF US NOW OUR CONCERN SHOULD BE THE, WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. WHAT SHOULD BE THE BEST TO USE FOR THIS LAND? IF NOT THAT TIME? I THINK NOW, NOW IS THE TIME THAT CITIES SHOULD SAY THAT. NO, NO, YES, MADAM, UH, WHATEVER IS THE SELLER'S MRS. CORN, YOU CAN SELL IT, WE WILL BUY IT. THE CITIES WOULD BUY IT, DEVELOP A BEAUTIFUL PARK, DEVELOP A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT WILL BE IN USE FOR EVERYBODY, NOT FOR SOME GOLFERS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE GOLF PROBABLY THERE NOT MANY GOLFERS. YES. SO THAT WILL BE A PROPER USE OF THIS LAND. BEAUTIFUL LAND. OF COURSE, LAHABRA, UH, IS UNIQUE IN THIS AREA. I HAVE LIVED IN FULLERTON, LA HABRA. UH, I DID MY RESIDENCY AT USC. AND THEN AFTER THAT, I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA AND I CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME HISTORY IN THIS COMMUNITY. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE. THERE HAS A CORN FESTIVAL, RIGHT? AND THIS CITY IS STILL, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SEE MANY CORNFIELDS, BUT YOU HAVE A HISTORY, YOU SHOULD TRY TO PRESERVE IT. IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL FOR THE COMING GENERATION. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE COME FROM THE VILLAGE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, WE LIKE IT. EVEN THOSE WHO, WHO DON'T HAVE IT, THEY WANT TO GO SOMETIME TO THE PICNIC. AND THIS, WE WANT TO GO TO THE NATURE AND THIS OPPORTUNITY, THIS OPPORTUNITY OF KEEPING THIS LAND AS AN OPEN SPACE, I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY SHOULD BE GOING AROUND STANDING HERE ACTUALLY, AND ABOUT THIS AND SAY, NO, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. INSTEAD OF, I CAN SEE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN. I SO FAR, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY WHO WANTS A OTHER WAY AROUND. THEY ALL WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT TO GO. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY FRAUD AND THIS AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT 10,000 SIGNATURES, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN S YOU CAN GO OUT AND SEE REALLY WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. AND AS, AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LEAD, WHERE WOULD YOU LEAD THEM, LEAD THEM TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT, OR LEAD THEM TO OPEN A SPACE, LEAD THEM TO A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT REALLY NEEDED, BUT IT MAY MAYBE BRING SOME MORE MONEY TO THE, TO THE CITY HALL. BUT IS THIS THE PURPOSE OF THE WHOLE, UH, THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO GAIN MORE MONEY? YOU'RE NOT IN BUSINESS. HERE WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING PEOPLE'S LIVES, MORE HEALTHIER, MORE ENJOYABLE SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE HERE AND LIVE HERE AND ENJOY THEIR LIFE. ENJOYMENT IS WON'T BE THERE. IF WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE, OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME PRESSER I CAN UNDERSTAND. I SEE THAT, OR THERE SHOULD BE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT I CAN, I CAN SEE JUST FROM THE LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATIONS AND JUST READING ABOUT THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT OUTSIDE THAT OPEN SPACE, BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE. I THINK THAT WILL BE, THAT IS A PIECE THAT YOU SHOULD, YOU WILL BE, YOU WILL, IF YOU NOT DO THIS, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T PRESERVE THIS LAND THE WAY IT IS OPEN SPACE, I THINK INCOMING GENERATION PEOPLE WILL REALLY FIND THAT, OH, THAT WAS SUCH A MISTAKE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S SUCH A WRONG MOVE, THAT THE CIGAR CITY COUNCIL THEN, SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. WE SHOULD KEEP IT OPEN. WE SHOULD KEEP IT FOR EVERYBODY, MAKE IT A PARK, MAKE IT A PARK. EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO ASSESS MORE TAXES, I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE WILL AGREE FOR THAT AND AGREE TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT NOBODY CAN OBJECT TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING TO THE HONORABLE COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I'M ALL FOGGED UP. DO YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? MY NAME'S JENNIFER CHAMPAGNE. [01:35:01] I AM A HOMEOWNER HERE IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA. MAYBE I CAN DO THIS WITHOUT MY GLASSES ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MANY RESIDENTS WHO CANNOT PARTICIPATE AT THIS EVENT AND MANY SUCH OF THESE EVENTS DUE TO A VARIETY OF REASONS. UH, WE SPEAK AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT AND WE REQUEST THAT BASED ON ALL THE FRAUD ON THE SIGNATURES AND THE LETTERS THAT THEY ALL JUST BE TOSSED OUT. I'M HERE TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT CHANGE THE ZONING CODE AND KEEP IT AS THE LONGTERM PLAN AS IS AS A HOMEOWNER IN LAHABRA. YOU CAN SAY, I BANKED ON THIS. I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS, THIS SHOULD BE A VOTE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA AND ONLY THE RESIDENTS. I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, AGAIN, AS A RESIDENT, TAXPAYER AND HOMEOWNER, THAT MY THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS ARE REPEATEDLY HEARD LAST AFTER HOURS OF PRO VIEWS FROM MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS AND SEEM TO BE ONLY FOCUSED ON MONEY THAT THEY CAN MAKE HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO STAND DOWN. MY HUSBAND ON THE OTHER HALF WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT AFTER LAST NIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS A BUSINESS MAN, HE'S GOT TO GET HIS REST AND BE FRESH FOR HIS WORK DAY TOMORROW AS A BUSINESS WOMAN, I UNDERSTAND THE GOLF COURSE OWNERS DESIRE TO SELL FOR THE HIGHEST DOLLAR, WHICH IS AN INVESTOR AND NOT ANOTHER BUSINESS PASSING ON THE GOLF COURSE TO ANOTHER OPERATOR. BUT AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I CAN NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S ADVENTURES OR DEEMED FAILURES. IF YOU LIVE OVER THE GOLF COURSE, YOU SEE NONSTOP PLAY ON THE COURSE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND THAT'S WITHOUT MUCH SIGNAGE OR ADVERTISING THAT CEASED MANY YEARS AGO, AS A CONSUMER IN MAHAMUDRA, I TRY TO AVOID THE AREA OF BEACH AND IMPERIAL BEACH IN WHITTIER DURING THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS TIME, EVEN WALMART LOWE'S SAM'S SPROUTS, IT'S JUST TOO BUSY. AND FOR THOSE COUPLE OF MONTHS, MY TRANS MUTE TO WORK IS INCREASED BY 30 MINUTES. AND THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GO BEACH BOULEVARD. THAT'S IT? IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC WITH ALL THESE NEW UNAFFORDABLE HOUSES, YES, UNAFFORDABLE THE FAMILIES AND YOUNGER GENERATIONS WHO ARE TO BELIEVE THESE EFFORTS ARE AN ATTEMPT TO ACCOMMODATE WITH BRAND NEW THREE, FOUR, FIVE BEDROOM HOMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE HOMES. OUR FIRST HOME WAS A TWO BEDROOM, LESS THAN 700 SQUARE FEET OR SECOND FOREVER HOME IS IN THE HOMBRE. AND I HOPE IT DOES END UP BEING OUR FOREVER HOME. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING RESPONSIBILITY AND LIABILITY OF FINANCING. WILL BANKS, FINANCE HOMES BUILT ON CAPPED OIL, WELLS AND TOXIC OIL SPILLED OIL SOIL OIL IN THE SOIL. WHERE DOES THE RESPONSIBILITY LIE REGARDING BANKING, LENDING INSTITUTIONS, REALTORS, AND HOME BUYERS? WHEN DOES THE LIABILITY EXPIRE RIGHT AROUND THE TIME HEALTH ISSUES START OCCURRING? SCIENCE NEWS CLAIMS THAT THOSE LIVING NEAR OIL AND GAS FACILITIES MAY BE AT A HIGHER RISK OF DISEASE. I BELIEVE THEY WOULD AGREE EVEN DISTURBING BURIED MACHINERY WILL HAVE THE SAME HEALTH CONCERNS. THIS INCLUDES EXPOSURE TO HAZARDOUS AIR POLLUTANTS, INCLUDING CARCINOGENS LIKE BENZINE THAT COULD POSE HEALTH RISKS ABOVE LEVELS, DEEMED ACCEPTABLE BY THE U S TOXIC BENZINE CAN CAUSE DROWSINESS AND HEADACHE. WHEN INHALED FOR SMALL PERIODS, WHAT CAN HAPPEN OVER LONGER PERIODS? SOME OF THE SWIMMING POOLS MENTIONED AT SOME OF THESE EVENTS HAVE BEEN SERIOUSLY PROBLEMATIC, AND THERE ARE PLANS FOR MORE SWIMMING POOLS. AGAIN, I HAVE LIABILITY CONCERNS. WILL OUR SCHOOLS BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SAY APPROXIMATELY 1700 MORE CHILDREN WHEN IT'S ALL DEVELOPED AND PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN. LASTLY, BASED ON A TWO MINUTE RESEARCH, I FOUND 74 REVIEWS OVER THE LAST [01:40:01] NINE AND A HALF MONTHS ON CONSUMER AFFAIRS LAND. OUR HOMES HOMES HAS A ONE STAR REVIEW. YOU CANNOT LEAVE A REVIEW WITHOUT HITTING AT LEAST ONE STAR. I IMAGINE THEY WOULD HAVE ZERO STARS IF THAT WERE THE CASE THAT WAS POSSIBLE. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THESE BRIEFLY, IT APPEARS THAT LITTLE NAR DID NOT GET APPROVAL FOR WATER CONNECTIONS FROM THE STREET TO THE METER AND FAILED TO SUBMIT PAPERWORK FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THOSE LINES. AND I WENT BACKWARDS ON THESE STARTING WITH THE MOST RECENT, SO THERE'S TWO FOR OCTOBER 20TH, THEN OCTOBER 16TH, OCTOBER 9TH, THEY'RE VERY REGULARLY COMING IN AND THEY'RE ALL ONE STAR. I HAVE LEFT THEM OUT MULTIPLE TIMES. I HAVE HAD THEM OUT MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF AIR CONDITIONING PROBLEMS AND IT'S STILL NOT WORKING CORRECTLY. WHY IS A NEW HOME BUILT TO HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM PAID TO HAVE HOME INSPECTION? PRIOR TO MY YEAR END, HE STATED MY AIR CONDITIONING UNIT IS TOO SMALL. AND HE GOES ON ABOUT THE BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE, HOW HE STILL HAS A PROBLEM AND THEY HAVEN'T FIXED IT. THIS ONE IS OUT OF WARRANTY. HE BOUGHT IT IN 2018. BY OCTOBER 16, 2020, HIS HOUSE IS OUT OF WARRANTY. HE BOUGHT NEW APPLIANCES AND WHEN HE PLUGGED HIM IN THE CIRCUIT, BREAKERS KEPT POPPING BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS WIRED WRONG. THE MICROWAVE THAT CAME WITH THE HOUSE AND THE FRIGERATORS ON THE SAME BREAKER. AND SO IT JUST CONSTANTLY FLIPS THIS VIEW FROM OCTOBER 9TH. DON'T BUY A HOME FROM THIS COMPANY. I WISH I READ THE VIEWER. I MAY INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MINUTE. WE GET THE POINT THAT YOU'RE KIND OF GIVING ONE OF THOSE EVALUATIONS, BUT I REALLY TRY TO DIRECT YOU BACK TO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. YOU CANNOT TRUST LENORE. WHERE DO YOU UNDERSTAND? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I DID SEND THIS LINK TO, UM, THE COUNTY CLERK. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MY TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. MY NAME IS SORA MUKHERJEE AND I'M A RESIDENT IN LAHABRA HISTORY WILL JUDGE US ON THE DECISIONS THAT OUR ELECTED CITY COUNCIL MAKES TODAY, THOUGH. LAHABRA MAY BE JUST A COLLECTION OF THE THOUSANDS OF CITIES THAT MAKE UP THIS NATION. IT'S 60,000 CITIZENS ARE THE VERY FACES THAT MAKE THIS NATION STILL GREAT. THESE PHASES INCLUDE AND NOT LIMITED TO OUR EDUCATORS, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, GROCERY AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, ENGINEERS, AND LIKE ME, HEALTHCARE WORKERS. THEY ALL WORK HARD TO ENRICH THIS COUNTRY AND THEIR COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES AND TO BE HEARD AND RESPECTED. SO WHAT DO THESE FACES WANT? DO THEY WANT TO DRIVE THROUGH ENDLESS AND WORSENING TRAFFIC JAMS AFTER A DAY OF HARD WORK, SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO MORE OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS DURING THE WEEK, AND THEN REALIZE ON THE WEEKENDS THAT THEIR CITY LACKS ADEQUATE SPACE, WHERE THEY CAN PLAY WITH THEIR CHILDREN, OR JUST ENJOY A ROUND OF AN AMERICAN PASTIME. DO THEY WANT POOR AIR QUALITY AND TO BE PACKED IN EVER MORE CROWDED HOUSING PROJECTS? DO THEY WANT TO SPEND THEIR WHOLE LIFE SAVINGS TO PURCHASE A HOME AND THEN FIND OUT A FEW YEARS LATER THAT THE FOUNDATION THAT THEY'RE HOME IS BUILT ON IS FAILING AS WELL AS THEIR DREAMS. DO THEY WANT TO TELL THEIR CHILDREN THAT ANOTHER BREEDING GROUND FOR A BEAUTIFUL MONARCH BUTTERFLIES THAT ARE OPEN SPACES PROVIDE, AND WHICH I HAVE CHERISHED ALONG WITH MY CHILDREN. THE LAST FEW SUMMERS HAS DISAPPEARED FOREVER AS AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN. THE FRONT LINES COVID HAS TAUGHT US THAT CROWDED CITIES, THAT LACK OPEN SPACES AND ONLY PROVIDE CROWDED HOUSING ARE THE PERFECT ENVIRONMENTS WHERE DISEASES SPREAD AND WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY CAN NOT BE INSURED. IT IS THE VERY REASON WHY SOME OF THE ONES, MOST DESIRABLE PLACES TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE LOSING THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS TO SUBURBS AND RURAL TOWNS WHERE HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING AND ITS RESULTING TRAFFIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL NIGHTMARES ARE LOW THAT AND AVOIDED AMERICANS NOW RIGHTFULLY DESIRE AND DEMAND LESS [01:45:01] CROWDED WAYS OF LIVING MORE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, CLEANER AIR AND WATER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE HEALTHCARE. I KNOW THIS DECISION IS TOUGH, BUT DON'T LET LINDAR DANGLE A SMALL PARK AND A RECREATION CENTER. SO THEY, THEY CAN DEVELOP THE VAST MAJORITY OF SPACE FOR MORE HOUSING. IF IT'S PARKS THAT WE NEED, WHY DON'T WE COME TO A DEAL WITH A WESTBRIDGE GOLF COURSE FOR AN AREA TO BE DEVOTED, TO OPEN RECREATIONAL SPACE AND OR HIKING TRAILS. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER WAYS WHERE WE CAN PRESERVE ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING OPEN SPACES IN NORTHERN ORANGE COUNTY, THEREBY PRESERVING AN IMPORTANT ECOLOGICAL HABITAT AT THE SAME TIME. IF IT'S MORE REVENUE YOU NEED, LET'S COME TOGETHER. LET'S INVEST IN ITS CITIZENS BY IMPROVING BUSINESS CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL AMENITIES. FINALLY, WHY IS IT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WAS DECIDING ON THE RANCHO LA HARBOR PROJECT? WHEN THE VOTERS CAN DECIDE IN A MERE TWO WEEKS THROUGH MEASURE X, WHAT DIRECTION OUR CITY TAKES. IN FACT VOTING IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK, WHY DON'T WE LA HARBOR US CITIZENS DECIDE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT. BUT IF YOU MUST VOTE NOW, TODAY, PLEASE VOTE WITH YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR CONSCIENCE. YOU ARE ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS CAN DECIDE TODAY WHETHER IT'S CITIZENS CONTINUE TO PROUDLY CALL A HARBOR THEIR HOME. I, ALONG WITH THE MANY FACES THAT WE HAVE JOINED THIS, CAUSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IN PRESERVING LA HARBOR, AS OPEN SPACES HAVE HAD FAITH THAT YOU ARE ELECTED. OFFICIALS WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. DON'T LET OUR FAITH DOWN. PLEASE SAY NO TO RANCHO LA BARBARA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CARRIE KILIAN WEIGHT AND I LIVE AT 1941 SARAH'S AND COURT IN THE WESTRIDGE COMPLEX FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. LET ME START BY SAYING MY HUSBAND AND I ARE NOT GOLFERS, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE THE UPSET OF MY NEIGHBORS. PARTICULARLY LEAVE THE ORIGINAL OWNERS WHO PURCHASED THEIR HOMES WITH THE EXPRESS PURPOSE TO LIVE AND PLAY. HOLD ON, WE'LL FIX THAT FOR YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT LIKE, MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ADDING 400 NEW HOMES WILL DO ON THE CITY. SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL MAY APPEAR TO BE A FOOL'S ERRAND BECAUSE AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS HAS EXPRESSED HIMSELF QUITE CLEARLY, THAT HE WANTS TO SEE THE PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. ON THIS POINT, AS A FORMER PROFESSOR AT CAL STATE SAN BERNARDINO IN THE MASTER'S PROGRAM, I WAS ALWAYS MINDFUL THAT ONE OF MY STUDENTS COULD RECORD ME AT ANY TIME. CONSEQUENTLY, I MADE SURE THAT ANYTHING I SAID COULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER. WHAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE IS TO HAVE USED MY POSITION OF POWER AND AUTHORITY TO PROMOTE MY PERSONAL OR POLITICAL AGENDA. IT'S APPALLING THAT ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS USED HIS TIME IN THE CLASSROOM AT RIO HONDO COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN WHITTIER TO DISPARAGE OUR POLICE, HIS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE LAHABRA CITIZENRY IN PROMOTION OF THE RANCHO LAHABRA PLAN, THE FOUL LANGUAGE, SEXUAL INNUENDO AND MANIACAL LAUGHTER. WHILE SPEAKING TO A GROUP OF STUDENTS IN AMERICAN HISTORY CLASS IS SHAMEFUL. IT'S PARTICULARLY GALLING THAT THESE COMMENTS WERE MADE IN ONE OF OUR SISTERS CITIES, WHITTIER. I LIVED IN WHITTIER FOR 20 YEARS AND WHEN THE FINANCIAL CRISIS OF 2008 OCCURRED, PEOPLE BEGAN TO LOSE THEIR HOMES. AND A FAIR NUMBER BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS. SO WHERE DID THEY GO? THEY STARTED TO TAKE UP CAMP IN THE PARKS, PENN PARK, CENTRAL PARK, PARNELL PARK. THEY WERE FLOODED WITH PEOPLE THAT FOUND THEMSELVES ON THE STREET. HOMELESSNESS IS A COMMUNITY PROBLEM. AND ALTHOUGH WHITTIER HAS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO COMBAT THIS ISSUE, IT TOOK YEARS TO CLEAR PARNELL PARK FROM THE DRUG INFESTED AND CRIMINAL ELEMENT THAT OFTEN ACCOMPANIES THIS POPULATION. MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SUPREME COURT DECISION ADDRESSING MARTIN VS THE CITY [01:50:01] OF BOISE. IN ESSENCE, IT STATES THAT PRECLUDES THE ENFORCEMENT OF A STATUTE PROHIBITING SLEEPING OUTSIDE AGAINST HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH NO ACCESS TO ALTERNATIVE SHELTER. THEREFORE THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT CRIMINALIZE INDIGENT, HOMELESS PEOPLE FOR SLEEPING OUTDOORS. AND IT TOOK THE DEATH OF A YOUNG WOMAN ON NEW YEAR'S DAY TO CLEAR THE PARK AS A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD, THEN MOVED ALONG AND WENT TO LA MIRADA CREEK PARK, EXCUSE ME. LAHABRA DOES NOT HAVE ANY BEDS FOR THE HOMELESS. SO WHERE DO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE MAY END UP WHEN THEY EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS? THE AMENITIES OF THIS PLAN SOUNDS SEXY WITH WORDS LIKE SPLASH PAD AND AMPHITHEATER, CLUBHOUSE AND PARK EQUIPMENT. BUT THIS IS NOT A POCKET PARK. THIS PARK WILL HAVE BATHROOMS. AND WHILE I HAVE GREAT EMPATHY FOR THOSE WITHOUT SHELTER, THIS PROJECT WILL BEG FOR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. AND, BUT THE POLICE CANNOT DO A THING TO MOVE THEM ALONG BY LAW. I HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT HOW LENARA WILL PUT ANYTHING IN PLACE THAT WOULD PREVENT SUCH A CIRCUMSTANCE. I IMPLORE YOU TO, TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD AND ONCE DONE IT CANNOT BE UNDONE. JUST ASK WHITTIER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR MAYOR PROTEIN AND A RESPECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS . I DON'T HAVE A SOMETHING THAT I PREPARED TO SAY TO THE RESPECTED PEOPLE THAT I WAS CITY OF LA HABRA, ELECTED YOU AND TRUST ON YOU. SO WHAT IS THE RIGHT? AND WHAT IS THE WRONG IS THE BATTLE FOR THE LAST 5,000 YEARS. SO WHEN THE PEOPLE WANTED TO PROVE THEIR RIDE, THEY WANTED TO PROVE AT WRONG. THAT IS A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING ON. WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY IS THE HOUSING. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND HOME HOW'S THAT PEOPLE SELL FOR PROFIT AND THE HOME FAMILY MAKE THAT HOME FOR THE VALUES? NO, WE ALREADY KNOW. AND THIS WAS ALL THE ISSUE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, ABOUT, UH, ALL OF THE THINGS THEY ARE DOING WRONG. THEY ARE DOING RIGHT. THEY ARE DOING THIS AND THAT COUNCIL AND MAYOR PROTEIN. YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF IT. NUMBER ONE IS NOT SELECTIONS. WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING IN LA HABRA? THE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN LA HABRA RIGHT NOW. HE'S A PENN DYNAMIC TIME. SINCE MARCH, WE ARE SEEING, WE ARE DRIVING THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN TO LAHABRA. IT WAS TAKING ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF IN FEBRUARY, 2020. NOW HE'S ONLY 35 MINUTES. WHY? SO? YES, WE GOT EVERYBODY GETTING THROUGH. THE EMOTIONAL LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME. SO THERE IS NO TRAFFIC, RIGHT? BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT, DO WE WANT THIS PANDEMIC FOREVER? NO. SO WHAT WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. IF WE HAVE LIKE 400 SOME HOUSES THAT ARE HERE IN LA HABRA, WHAT HE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S ANOTHER PANDEMIC OR NIGHTMARE FOR EVERYONE. SO NOW I HAVE THIS BANK USER AND I REQUEST USER, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT ANYMORE. AND SO THE LAHABRA PEACE AND PEACE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. [01:55:50] GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOE FAUST AND I'M A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I'VE LIVED ON THIS SIDE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC, JOE. I MEAN MAYBE CAN LIFT IT UP A LITTLE BIT TOO. BRIANNA, THERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS JOE FAUST. I'M A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS CITY AND THIS PROJECT BECAUSE FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS, I'VE PROVIDED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTATION SERVICES TO MANY CITIES IN THE COUNTY OF ORANGE, INCLUDING THE CITY OF LAHABRA. I WON'T GO INTO MY QUALIFICATIONS. BEYOND FACT MENTIONED THAT DURING THIS LONG CAREER I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY HUNDRED, THE PREPARATION OF SEVERAL HUNDRED E I R N E R DOCUMENTS. SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, JOE, WE KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCE AND WE'VE READ ALL THE DOCUMENTS SET US. SO YOU'RE THE EXPERT. WE AGREE. UH, I DID, I HAVE PREPARED A LONG LIST OF COMMENTS, 22, IN FACT, UH, WHICH ARE HIGHLY CRITICAL OF THIS EIR AND THIS PROJECT. UM, I HAD THEM, I THINK YOU HAVE THEM, UH, WE HAVE, YOU HAVE YOUR LETTERS AND DOCUMENTS ON THE RECORD AND WE'VE READ THEM. SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE TIME. I'VE REHEARSED THIS PRESENTATION A LOT OF TIMES AND IT TAKES 24 TO 26. AREN'T YOU REPEATING EVERYTHING. THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SENT US ALREADY. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING. I'M GOING TO TRUST THAT, THAT YOU WILL READ THAT. WELL, WE HAVE, SO I WAS HOPING YOU CAN SUMMARIZE HER A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. UM, UH, I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY, THE COVID AND 19 AND THE ENVIRONMENT HERE. SO I'M TRUST. YOU'RE GONNA READ MY 22 COMMENTS. UH, ALL OF WHICH ARE ARE CRITICAL OF THE PROJECT. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT ANY ONE OF THEM TAKEN BY ITSELF IS A SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO, UH, CALL INTO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU WOULD WANT TO CERTIFY THIS EIR OR NOT. BUT THE COLLECTED TOTAL OF 22, I THINK IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY TRUE THAT THE, THAT THIS DOCUMENT CANNOT BE SALARY, UH, UH, CERTIFIED AND IT'S A PRESENTATION. SO I'M GOING TO LIMIT MY DISCUSSION REALLY TONIGHT TO THE ONE ISSUE THAT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE A POINT OUT. AND THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST. UM, THAT POINT IS THAT, UH, L O S LEVEL OF SERVICE IS NO LONGER A INDICATOR OF A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND CAN NO LONGER BE USED AND SEQUEL. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE TWO, UH, SLIDES THAT I'VE PREPARED. UH, I WENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND TRIED TO HAVE IT, UH, PUT, TO PUT OUT IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT THAT THEY INDICATED THEY COULDN'T DO THAT FOR ME. I'M JUST GOING THROUGH, YOU HAVE COPIES OF THIS, BUT, UH, WELL, I HAVE MY OWN COPY OF IT TO THE FIRST, UH, SLIDE TITLED SEQUEL GUIDELINES, UM, SIMPLY SAYS, AND THIS IS THE LEGAL LANGUAGE OF IT. I'VE QUOTED IT PER, PER, UH, PRECISELY PER WORD. BASICALLY WHAT ALL OF THAT SAYS IS THAT L O S IS NO LONGER [02:00:01] AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT URINE SAMPLE. THE SECOND, UH, SLIDE IS ESSENTIALLY A, AN ADVICE OR A WARNING PROVIDED BY A VERY REPUTABLE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION CONSULTING FIRM, FARON PEARS, UH, AFFIRMED THAT THE CITY OF LA HARBOR USES TO, UH, HELP THEM WITH THEIR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MAPPING MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS PREPARING YOUR, UH, TIA IS FOR THE UPCOMING, UH, UH, SB SEVEN 43, UH, PROCESS, UH, THAT, UH, FARRON PEARS, UH, INDICATED THAT ON ALL THIS SIMPLY READ IT. THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY REPORTED THAT A COMBINATION OF SB SEVEN 43 STATUTE, AND THE NEW SECRET GUIDELINES MADE IT POSSIBLE THAT THE LOS COULD NO LONGER BE USED TO DETERMINE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AFTER CERTIFICATION. THE CERTIFICATION OCCURRED ON DECEMBER 28TH, 2018, FOLLOWING THAT THERE WAS A COURT DECISION, AND IT WAS THE COURT CASE OF THE CITIZENS FOR POSITIVE GROWTH AND PRESERVATION VERSUS THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO AND THE STATE'S THIRD DISTRICT APPEAL, WHICH VERIFIED THIS, THE CONCERN THAT'S FAIR AND PEERS THAT INDICATED THAT IT WAS NOT JUST POSSIBLE THAT LOL NO LONGER WAS USED IN DETERMINATION. IT COULD NOT BE USED IN THAT DETERMINATION. AND THAT, UH, UM, TRIAL COURT, UH, FOUND IT, THEY USE THE WORD, IT WAS MOOT. UM, THE DEVELOPER CLAIMS THE EIR IS EXEMPT, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE JULY 1ST, 2020, WHICH IS THE, UH, RESPECTIVE DATE OF SB SEVEN 43. I COULDN'T DO IT. I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE WITH THAT CONCLUSION. IT MAY BE EXEMPT FROM PREPARING A VMT VEHICLES, MILES TRAVELED ANALYSIS, BUT AS I'VE JUST SHOWN, IT IS CLEARLY NO LONGER CONSIDERED A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT SINCE THE EIR CONSULTANT. AND I AGREE, DISAGREE SO MUCH ON THIS. I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU SIMPLY CONTINUE THIS MATTER AND SEEK THE PINION OF YOUR OWN CITY ATTORNEY. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL YOU, NOBODY'S EVER ASKING HIM ABOUT THIS. THIS EIR NOW BECOMES THE CITY'S DOCUMENT, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL HAVE TO DEFEND IT. IF IT'S CHALLENGED ON, I THINK THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. SB SEVEN 43 DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE USE OF LA LOS ENTIRELY. IT MAY BE USED TO SATISFY THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN REQUIREMENTS IF THAT IS NEEDED, BUT THIS WOULD BE DONE OUTSIDE OF SEQUEL. IT WOULD NOT BE PART OF SACOA. LOS IS NO LONGER A SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IMPACT. I WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH ONE LAST THOUGHT THE DEVELOPMENT CLAIMS THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND WILL RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THIS PROJECT. THIS CLAIM HAS VARIED FROM INITIALLY ABOUT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR DOWN TO MOUTH 300,000. AT THE LATEST I'VE SEEN AN ESTIMATE. I INITIALLY QUESTIONED THIS CLAIM. IT WAS BEING CIRCULATED IN BROCHURES THAT WERE GOING AROUND, AND I EXPECTED THAT THIS, UH, ANY SURPLUS REVENUE WOULD BE MINIMAL AT BEST AND MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN A NET DECREASE YOUR OWN STAFF FISCAL REPORT, WHICH IS, UH, IN YOUR STAFF, UH, GENDER PACKAGE. BUT IT'S BURIED DEEP BACK IN THERE SAYS, AND I WILL QUOTE ANY SUCH INCREASE WOULD BE NEUTRAL AT BEST. THIS IS SHOWS ME, THIS IS SIMPLY PROPAGANDA FROM THE DEVELOPER. AND EVEN THE LATEST ESTIMATES DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY DEVALUATION OF PROPERTY, WHICH MIGHT RESULT FROM THE LOSS OF THE GOLF COURSE VIEWS. SO TO SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING I'VE JUST SAID, THE CITY MUST NOT VERIFY THE CERTAIN LIST, NOT CERTIFY THE EIR IN ITS PRESENT CONDITION, WHICH USES THE LOS MATRIX. SHOULD YOU, YOU SHOULD [02:05:01] DENY ANY CERTIFICATION OF THE DOCUMENT AND SEND IT BACK FOR NECESSARY REVISIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, JOE. DO YOU WANT THESE BACK? I KNOW I'M BELIEVING. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS VICTOR LOMELI. I LIVE IN LA HOMBRE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BEACH FROM THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE. WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 31 YEARS IN LA HARBOR. WE'VE SEEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF, UH, OF THE START OF LAHABRA UNTIL THIS JEWEL HAS BEEN BUILT. WE DON'T LIVE NEAR THE BEACH OR ANYTHING, SO THERE'S NOT MUCH TO DO UNLESS YOU'RE SHOPPING OR EATING OUT. UM, I GO, I PLAY GOLF. I'M A GOLFER. I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN UP HERE, BUT, UM, I GREW UP THERE ABOUT FOUR TIMES A WEEK. UH, EITHER I PLAY ONE ROUND OR TWO ROUNDS OF GOLF AND I'M UP THERE HITTING GOLF BALLS AT THE RANGE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, 2013 BE NOT THE, PROBABLY THE WORST YEAR FOR THE GOLF COURSE. IT WAS, THEY LET, UH, THE, THE GREENS GO, THE FAIRWAYS WERE GONE AND IT WAS JUST A DISASTER. I COULDN'T GET ANY OF MY FRIENDS TO COME PLAY WITH ME THERE ANYMORE, BUT THEN THEY STARTED WORKING ON THE, ON THE, ON THE GREENS IN THE FAIRWAY. THEY CAME ABOUT, GOT BETTER AT THAT TIME. THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 80% CAUCASIAN PEOPLE THAT WERE PLAYING ON THE GOLF COURSE. SINCE THEN, THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED COMPLETELY IN OUR AREA. AND THANK GOD FOR THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IS ABOUT 90% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING THERE NOW. AND IT'S VERY, VERY BUSY. IT'S HARD TO GET A STARTING TIME. I'M A SINGLE GOLFER. A LOT OF TIMES I USED TO JUST BE ABLE TO WALK UP THERE AND PLAY. NOW I HAVE TO CALL AT LEAST THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE TO BOOK A, UM, A STARTING TIME, UH, WITH THE COVID IT'S EVEN BEING, IT'S A GREAT PLACE, A REFUGE TO DO THINGS WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE. IF YOU EVER GO TO THE DRIVING RANGE, IT IS JAM PACKED. I MEAN, YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU CAN GET A SPOT ON, ON EITHER LEVEL OF THE, OF THE DRIVING RANGE. THERE'S UM, UH, LIKE IF YOU GO ON A, ON A SUNDAY WHEN NFL IS PLAYING IT'S THINGS STILL PACKED, UH, THE ASIANS LOVE GOLF. WE HAVE KOREAN RESTAURANTS ON BEACH BOULEVARD. WE HAVE, UM, UH, GOLF, UH, STORE ON BEACH BOULEVARD. UM, IT JUST VERY BUSY. AND, UH, I, I, I PLAYED GOLF AT, UH, ROY VISTA TODAY AND I WAS OUT TALKING TO THE GUY AND I WAS ASKING HIM THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS. AND HE AGREED WITH ME, IT'S THE SAME. AND THEY'RE JUST AS BUSY AS A WEST RIDGE. AND I WAS TELLING HIM WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH REST RIDGE. AND I WAS COMING UP HERE TO SPEAK TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, W WE GO UP TO ABOUT 30 PRIVATE, INTO 30 EVENTS HERE AT THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE FOR A LAMA, MAROTTA FOOTBALL, UH, BENEFITS LAHABRA SONORA, WHITTIER, YOUR CHRISTIAN SCHOOL AND HPAC. SO WE'VE BEEN UP THERE QUITE A BIT AT THE BANQUET HALL, UH, THE RETAIL, YOU KNOW, I WAS ME AND MY WIFE TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAD DONE SUCH A GOOD TIME WITH ALL THE GOOD JOB WITH ALL THE RETAIL THAT WE PUT INTO A LA HABRA, BUT ALL THESE SMALL PLACES JUST DYING OFF BECAUSE OF AMAZON AND THE INTERNET. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO HAVE PLACES THAT YOU WANT TO PUT HOUSING THAT LOOKS LIKE THE PLACE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT, BUT THIS IS A BAD TIME TO, UH, BE, UH, TAKING APART, UH, THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE BEEN, HAS CHANGED. UM, THE ONE THING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TIPPING POINT FOR LAHABRA. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I'M RETIRED AND I PLAY GOLF, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHERE I DO. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE GOLF COURSE, THEY'VE LET IT GO. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PAVEMENT AREAS WHERE THE CARDS GO THROUGH, IT'S BROKEN UP AND THEY NEED NEEDS REPAIR. UH, BUT I FEEL ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE MAKING MONEY. AND, UH, AND I THINK WHY ARE THEY SELLING IT TO THE BUILDER? WHY DON'T THEY FIND SOMEBODY IF THEY DON'T WANT TO RUN A GOLF COURSE SALADS TO SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BUY IT? I MEAN, I'M SURE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS AREA IS PROBABLY THE BEST IN CALIFORNIA. MAYBE THE UNITED STATES. [02:10:01] WE HAVE SO MANY ASIANS THAT LOVE TO PLAY GOLF. YOU SEE, WHEN I GO OUT THERE AND PLAY, I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH AND I'M OUT THERE PLAYING WITH IT, AND I'M TALKING TO HIM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, THE SAME, UH, INTEREST. SO WE TALK. AND, UH, I THINK THAT IF THEY DON'T NOT WANT TO, TO CONTINUE WITH THE GOLF COURSE TO SELL TO ANOTHER, UH, UM, UH, GOLF COURT, SOMEBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO TAKE THE INTEREST OF THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL THAT IT'S A MONEYMAKING. UH, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND LOOK AT THEIR, THEIR BOOKS AND SEE WHAT ARE THEY MAKING IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE MONTHS, THEY'RE GONE FROM THE COBIT. I THINK, I THINK THE POINT IS YOU WANT THE GOLF COURSE TO STAY CORRECT? OH YEAH. OKAY. AND I THINK THEIR BOOKS AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS UP TO THEM, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. YEP. AND FOR WATER, I, AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE WATER, YOU KNOW, I RIDE DOWN THE CREEK A LOT ON MY BIKE AND THAT WATER'S JUST WASTED DOWN THE WASH THERE. IF THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY WE CAN GET, UH, A TWO AND A HALF INCH PIPE ACROSS BEACH TO SUPPLEMENT THE LAKE AND USE WATER, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS JULIE LOMELI AND, UM, I HAD WRITTEN A LETTER BEFORE TO THE COMMISSIONERS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING FROM THAT, BUT, UM, I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I WAS OPPOSING THE RANCHO LAHABRA DEVELOPMENT. I LIVE AT 26 41 WEST KEARNEY LANE IN LABRUM, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO BEACH AND IMPERIAL. AND THE TOPIC IS ALWAYS CONGESTED. AND I KNOW THE PLANNERS HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OR THE DEVELOPERS HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE, BUT THEY DON'T LIVE OR EXPERIENCE IT LIKE I DO. AND THEN ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT THEY HAVE THAT VALENCIA, WHICH IS A 335 APARTMENT HOME THAT, UM, ALSO HAS CONTRIBUTED TO MORE TRAFFIC. AND SO ADDING ANOTHER 450 IN THAT SLOW, THAT SMALL AREA, PLUS THE PARKS, TRAILS AND AMENITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE ISN'T OVERLOAD. ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT INDICATED ABOUT THE GASES THAT PROHIBIT THE LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. SO OF COURSE, LENO HAS A REMEDY FOR THAT. HOWEVER, THE WEST RIDGE GOLF COURSE IS THE PERFECT LAND USE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE NAR HAS THEIR OWN IDEAS OF WHAT LAND USE AND WHAT BUILDINGS SHOULD EXIST ON THAT PROPERTY. BUT WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY THAT HAS DEVELOPED, AND WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND WE'VE SEEN IT GROW. WE'VE SEEN THE RETAIL, THE COMMERCIAL, THE INDUSTRIAL, AND THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, WHICH HAS CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF THE CITY. WE HAVE ENJOYED MANY OF THE CHANGES, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL FOR RANCHO LA HABRA IS JUST OVER THE TOP. UH, THE DEVELOPER OF RANCHO LA HARBOR HAS AN ANSWER FOR EVERY ISSUE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT THE BASIC DESIRE BY EVERYONE THAT I KNOW THAT LIVES IN LAHABRA IS AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT. AND I, I REALLY DON'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FROM THE START LENNART CLAIMS THAT THEY'RE NOT FORCING IT ON THE COMMUNITY. THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH CITY OFFICIALS WHO APPARENTLY LED THEM TO BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE IF THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ARE THE TAXPAYERS AND THE VOTERS, AND IT DIMINISHES OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. WE DON'T WANT THE STRESS OF A DENSE POPULATION, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, THE LOSS OF THE NATURAL HABITATS AND THE LOSS OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE IN LAHABRA AS HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO KEEP INFORMED AND TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROJECT. AND I DON'T KNOW, ONE NEIGHBOR OR RESIDENT IN LAHABRA. I HAVE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN LA BARBARA THAT WANTS THE PROJECT ALSO ON FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, THE, UH, LENORE WOULD PUT OUT DIFFERENT POSTS AND I NEVER SAW ONE POSITIVE COMMENT. THEY WERE ALL NEGATIVE, AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE IT OFF AND PUT ANOTHER POST ON AND SAME THING. IT WAS JUST NEGATIVE COMMENTS AFTER NEGATIVE COMMENTS, UM, AS HOMEOWNERS, UH, [02:15:03] UH, UM, AND LISTENING TO THE CALLS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS MEETING. WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY PURCHASED THEIR HOMES IN THE LAST YEAR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE OVER 60 YEARS, WE HEARD FROM YOUNG FAMILIES AND SENIORS, THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT AND VERY VALID REASONS AGAINST THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY. AND EVEN THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED IT DOWN. SO I MUST SAY FROM THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE, THAT THE PART THAT HAS BEEN MOST DISTURBING ARE THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE NAR AND THE ZOOM MEETING FOR THE COMMISSION, UM, BOAT. THEY WERE VERY CONDESCENDING. THEY SPOKE LIKE THEY KNOW BETTER THAN ALL OF THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THEIR LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WHICH WERE QUESTIONED BY SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS. AND, UM, APPARENTLY SOME OF THE ADDRESSES OF THE SUPPORTERS WERE EVEN RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA AND HE PRESENTED THEM LIKE THEY WERE. AND NOW AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CARDS FROM SUPPORTERS THAT HAD NAMES AND SIGNATURES THAT WERE NOT VALID. THE DEVELOPER HAD DISTRIBUTED LOTS OF LITERATURE THAT IS MISLEADING. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE CARDS, NONE OF THEM HAVE PICTURES OF HOUSES. THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE GOLF COURSE. THEY ALSO SAID, FOR INSTANCE, OH, THE DEVELOPER DISTRIBUTED LITERATURE, AND THEY PROMISE YOU THE WORLD FOR FREE, THE ADS HAVE BEEN VERY DECEIVING. FOR INSTANCE, THEY SAY, JOIN THE WHAT 10,000 RESIDENTS BY SUPPORTING RANCHO LA HABRA HELPED ME ALL RESIDENTS EQUALLY. WELL, IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THE MAJORITY IS IN FAVOR, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND TO SHAW, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE NOT A MOB. WE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO PAY TAXES AND WE VOTE, AND YOU'RE ELECTED AS AN OFFICIAL. AND YOUR JOB IS TO SERVE, NOT TO LAUGH OR MOCK US. SO TAKE A GUT CHECK. IT'S NOT WHAT IS GOOD FOR TIM. IT'S WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA AND WHAT THEY WANT. YOU'RE IN THE BIG CHAIR COAT, AND WE'RE THE ONES WHO PAY YOUR SALARY. SO I WAS REALLY DISGUSTED WITH YOUR LECTURE, YOU OR THE POLICE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ORGANIZED AND HAVE THE ORGANIZATION SAVED LAHABRA AND ALL THE CONSTITUENTS APOLOGY. AND I THINK YOU NEED TO REDEEM YOURSELF BY BONING THE WAY THE PUBLIC WANTS. WE'RE NOT LITTLE CHILDREN THAT YOU JUST CAN PUT IN TIME OUT. YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR BIG BOY PANTS ON AND TELL THE DEVELOPER IT'S A NO GO. AND ALSO TO THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ASKED IT, YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. AND TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WANT LENNART. UM, WE DON'T WANT LINDAR OR THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN LAHABRA THEY'RE AT SAY NOT TO BE FOOLED BY THE NEGATIVE ADS OR THE SCARE TACTICS, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BULLYING US. SO I'M SORRY, BUT I DO NOT SEE THE INTEGRITY. THEY HAVE BEEN ASSIGNING TO THEMSELVES. YOU ASKED YESTERDAY, HOW LONG WAS YOUR PRESENTATION GOING TO BE? THEY SAID, OH, LIKE AN HOUR. WELL, IT WAS LIKE THREE TIMES THAT, AND YOU HAD PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE WHO WANTED TO HAVE A VOICE. THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL. THERE WAS PEOPLE IN THE OTHER ROOM AND 10 30 AT NIGHT THAT YOU HAD TO GO HOME. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T COME BACK, WHICH IS DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. AND I JUST ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN MR. GOMEZ. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT HE RECUSED HIMSELF BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS, AND NOW HE'S NOT GOING TO VOTE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, MS. ESPINOSA FOR, UM, DOING HER HOMEWORK AND CHECKING UP ON THOSE ADDRESSES. AND I WANTED TO THANK MR. MEDRANO FOR, UM, KEEPING THE PUBLIC AWARE. I SAID, YOU WOULD PUT STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR MEETINGS. AND SO I APPRECIATED THAT. AND, UM, MR. BEAMISH, I HEARD THAT YOU'RE RETIRING AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOUR LAST VOTE WILL BE FOR WHAT THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA WANT. AND WE DON'T WANT THE DEVELOPMENT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, [02:20:22] SIR. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, YOU NEED TO LEAVE YOUR MASK ON. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SOMETHING NOT MANY OF US LIKE DOING, ALRIGHT, READY TO GO. YOU'RE READY. YOU'RE READY. SURE. GO. JUST STATE YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD. THAT'S GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JERRY CALLAHAN AND I'M A RESIDENT OF THE WEST RIDGE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, THE, UH, HILLSIDES BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE GOLF COURSE HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED OVER ALL THE YEARS OF THE DEVELOPMENTS BY THE, UH, WESTBRIDGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. AND IT'S MAINTAINED BY FROM BELOW BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACCESS FROM ABOVE. AND, UH, IT SEEMS TO ME, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS HERE THAT IF WE CAN'T RETAIN THAT KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP AND HA HAVE OUR, UH, GARDENERS AND SO FORTH THROUGH USE, UH, MECHANISMS, UH, AND, UH, TRUCKS AND SO FORTH TO MAINTAIN IT, IF THAT CAN'T BE MAINTAINED, THAT WE HAVE A REAL DANGER HERE OF HILLSIDE SLIPPAGE. AND SO, UH, HAVEN'T SEEN EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WHAT IS PLANNED HERE, BUT, UH, I THINK THERE'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT, UH, PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON. AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS NOT AFFECTED BY ALL OF THIS. AND, UH, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, JERRY. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THAT WAY. THAT WAY. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS THOMAS BROWN. UH, I LIVE IN LAHABRA SINCE, UH, 27 YEARS. I MOVED HERE FROM SWITZERLAND 27 YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHERE THE FUNNY ACCENT IS COMING FROM. UM, I LIVE IN LA HABRA NOW, SINCE THIS, ALL THIS TIME, BECAUSE I FEEL ON THAT FELT THAT LAHABRA HAS THIS SMALL TOWN FEEL. IT IS NOT AN OVERCROWDED CITY. IT HAS OPEN SPACES. IT HAS THIS SMALL TOWN FEELING THAT OVER THE LAST PROBABLY 10 YEARS STARTED GOING AWAY WITH DEVELOPMENTS HERE AND THERE, BUT IT STILL HAS A SMALL TOWN FEEL WITH THIS PROJECT GOING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO. IT THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL IS GOING TO BE GONE. THERE'S NO MORE OPEN SPACES IN LAHABRA ON THAT SPOT. AS ONE OF THE REASONS, HE'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I LIVE HERE. UH, THE OTHER POINT I NEED TO MAKE IS WHAT I HEAR YESTERDAY. AND TODAY MORE AND MORE AGAIN, IS THIS FRAUD ABOUT THE SIGNATURES AND PETITIONS FROM LENORE WHEN THIS SITUATION ARISES. AND WHEN WE DEAL WITH A COMPANY WHICH HAS THIS BAD IMAGE, NOW YOU NEED TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK. WHAT IS REALLY BEHIND IT. IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. IT DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT. PLUS YESTERDAY EVENING, WE WERE SITTING OUTSIDE A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE, FIVE SUPPORT SPOKE HERE. FOUR OF THEM WERE AFFILIATED WITH SOME KIND OF ORGANIZATION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT. ONE WAS A CITIZEN, NOT EVEN IN PERSON. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AGAINST THE PROJECT. SO IT SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW THE PEOPLE FEEL. NOW, HOPE THE COUNCIL WALTZ, WHAT THE PEOPLE FEEL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OH, THAT'S A TRUE, [02:25:02] CAN I GO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND SECOND. LET HER, OKAY. BRIANNA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. THANKS. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BILL SANDERS AND I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF LAVA FOR 42 YEARS. THE WESTWOOD RIDGE GOLF COURSE IS THE LARGEST OPEN SPACE THAT'S LEFT IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA. WHEN DRIVING SOUTH ON BEACH BOULEVARD OR IDAHO, YOU CAN SEE THE GOLF COURSE ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM WHITTIER BOULEVARD. IF YOU GOOGLE MAP, THE CITY WESTRIDGE GOLF COURSE STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. IT'S THE LARGEST SPACE IN THE AREA. THIS IS WHY TONIGHT'S DECISION TO KEEP THIS BEAUTIFUL SPACE OPEN IS SO SO IMPORTANT. HOUSING. THE CITY OF LA HARBOR TREND HAS BEEN TRENDING TO APPROVE HIGH DENSITY, HOUSING, EVERY VACANT, LOT OLD CAR DEALER, DEALER, LOTS CITY PARKING LOT, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET MARKETS, ALL MARKETS ANYWHERE THEY CAN CRAM THESE HOMES IN. SO IT'S APPARENT THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY EMPLOYED AN AGGRESSIVE PROGRAM TO ADD TO THE OVERALL HOME COUNT IN THE CITY. I GUESS THE REAL QUESTION FOR ALL OF US IS WHAT WILL OUR CITY LOOK LIKE IN 15 YEARS? AND WILL WE BE HAPPY WITH IT? RANCHO LA HARBOR PROPOSES TO BUILD 277 HOMES, 166 TOWNHOMES PRICES RANGING FROM 500,000, PROBABLY THAT'S UP TO WELL OVER A MILLION. MOST LIKELY THE LARGER ONES PUSHING 2 MILLION WITH THESE PRICES. RANCHO LA HARBOR WILL DO NOTHING TO SATISFY AT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS WATER. LAST NIGHT, WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN HERE TELLING US ALL KINDS OF STUFF. THE WATER CLAIMS THE BUILDER CLAIMS TO SAVE A TON OF WATER WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. 55% OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE THE SAME AS THE GOLF COURSE, GREEN REQUIRED REQUIRING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WATER AS THE GOLF COURSE, HAS ANYBODY LOOKED AT THE GOLF COURSE LATELY? THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE USING THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY USE TO, IT LOOKS LIKE A DESERT AND A SO, AND THEN YOU ADD 400 AND I THINK 43 HOMES IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON TOP OF THAT WITH COMMON AREA POOLS, PRIVATE POOLS, SPAS, WATER FEATURES, LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION, UH, LAUNDRY APPLIANCES DISHWASHERS, AND JUST PLAYING HUMANS, SAVING WATER. I THINK THEY'RE JUST WAY OFF ON THE WATER SAVINGS. LAST NIGHT WAS ENTERTAINING. ALTHOUGH IT IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE TOOK SO LONG, BUT WE DID LEARN A LOT ABOUT WINNER. IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT WE LEARNED LAST NIGHT AND LISTENING TO ALL THE PEOPLE TALK, ESPECIALLY I ENJOYED THEM TALKING ABOUT THE MINI MEETINGS THEY HAD WITH YOU FOLKS AND YOUR STAFF MEMBERS. AND I THINK ANDREW HO AND, AND THOSE FOLKS WERE, IT WAS JUST INTERESTING HOW ALL THIS WORKS. YOU GUYS HAVE BECOME REAL FRIENDLY WITH LINDAR AND YOU'RE YOU, UH, YOU, UH, DEVELOP THIS RELATIONSHIP AND LENARA IS IN HERE AT SAYING, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS NEED? WHAT DO YOU NEED? WELL, YOU KNOW, SO YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT. WE LEARNED THAT YOU GUYS AGREED ON THE HOUSING BREAKDOWN FROM TOWNHOUSES TO MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE ALSO HEARD YOU GUYS AGREED ON A FREE PARK. I'M NOT SAYING YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW WHO MAKES THAT DECISION FREE PARK WITH A FREE COMMUNITY CENTER. WOW. THAT'S WORTH $5.2 MILLION. THEY ALSO AGREED LINDAR TO DUMP $1.5 MILLION WITH YOU GUYS JUST TO THROW IT IN. I CALL THAT FUND MONEY. $1.5 MILLION, AND THEN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY RUNDOWN APARTMENTS IN TOWN. IT'S TOO BAD. HOPE YOU'LL DO SOMETHING WITH THAT MILLION DOLLARS. WELL, I HOPE YOU DON'T GET THAT CHOICE. I HOPE WE DON'T VOTE THIS DAY. I HOPE WE VOTE THIS DOWN BECAUSE LAST NIGHT THERE WAS AN ENDLESS GROUP OF WOMEN, OUR SPEAKERS WHO WENT ON AND ON FOR TWO AND A HALF HOURS, I DID HOWEVER, ENJOY SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT LENNART CLAIMED YOUR FAVOR, THEIR DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF WHICH WERE CHARITIES IN WHICH LENARA HAS GIVEN MONEY TO OTHERS WERE VENDORS OR CHARITIES. WHAT VENDOR'S NOT GOING TO VOUCH FOR YOU. SO IT, IT WASN'T, UH, THAT I THINK ALSO THIS ALSO IS NOT A STRETCH. THE REALTORS ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THEY WILL, IT'S 450 MORE HOMES FOR THEM TO SELL WHAT REALTOR WOULD NOT BE BEHIND A DEVELOPMENT. THIS STRATEGY OF THIS IS THE STRATEGY FOR FILLING OUR PAYOUT BIG BUCKS. AND YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU WANT ON THE BACKSIDE. CONVERSELY, THIS GROUP TO THE SAVE LA HARBOR GROUP, IT'S A GRASSROOTS GROUP. IT'S OF LAHABRA CITY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE WHO WE, WE DON'T HAVE 1,000,005 TO GIVE TO YOU GUYS. WE DON'T, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A CITY PARK. WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A COMMUNITY CENTER. [02:30:01] WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT. LAST NIGHT. YOU HEARD ABOUT ALL KINDS OF MONEY THAT THIS GROUP HAS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AT ALL, BUT IT'S A GREAT GROUP OF DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO GET IT OPEN SPACE INITIATIVE, MEASURE A X ON THE BALLOT. THIS HAS TAKEN A MASSIVE INVESTMENT IN TIME FOR MANY OF THESE GREAT VOLUNTEERS. SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN HERE THAT HAVE, THAT ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SPEAK. SECOND LANGUAGE IS ENGLISH AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. AND VERY BRAVE. THIS IS TAKEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU HEARD LAST NIGHT. THIS GROUP OPERATES ON A SHOESTRING. WE HAVE NO MONEY, NO DEEP POCKETS, NOTHING. WHAT? THIS IS IS DEMOCRACY IN LIVING COLOR. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY TALKED ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT, THE KWAN FAMILY, THE OWNERS OF THE GOLF COURSE AFTER LISTENING TO THE LA MINNAAR AND THE COLON FAMILY SPEAKING LAST NIGHT, YOU THINK THESE FOLKS WERE INSTITUTE THEY'RE NOT 20 YEARS AGO. THEY BOUGHT 150 ACRES. THEY DEVELOPED IT INTO A GOLF COURSE. THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING THAT FOR 20 YEARS. THEY ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, BOUGHT A VERY LARGE HOME IN WEST RIDGE. UH, SO TO SAY, THESE FOLKS ARE DOWN AND OUT IS A JOKE. THIS WEALTHY FAMILY WHO PURCHASED AND DEVELOPED 150 ACRE GOLF COURSE 20 YEARS AGO, YEARS AGO AT THE SAME TIME, PURCHASED THEIR HOME. AS A BUSINESS OWNER. I UNDERSTAND THE UPS AND DOWNS OF A BUSINESS. I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND FLEX WITH THE TIMES IT APPEARS THIS FAMILY STOPPED PROMOTING THIS BUSINESS FIVE YEARS AGO, OR WINLAND ART CAME INTO THE PICTURE AS A BUYER FOR THE LAND. NOT ALL GOLF COURSES ARE TANKING. YOU JUST HAVE TO WORK YOUR TAIL OFF TO BE THE BEST IT, YEAH, CERTAINLY WITH 14 DAYS UNTIL A NATIONAL ELECTION, I FIND IT FASCINATING THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, DECIDING THE FUTURE OF THE LARGEST REMAINING OPEN SPACE, A PARCEL IN LAHABRA JUST 14 DAYS UNTIL THE CITY RESIDENTS WILL VOTE ON MEASURE X, THE OPEN SPACE INITIATIVES BEING SO CLOSE TO THE ELECTION IS TO ME, IT'S COMMON SENSE TO ALLOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO VOTE AND MAKE THE DECISION FOR YOU GUYS ON THIS PROPERTY. LASTLY, I, UH, IN THE MAIL, I GOT THIS VERY NICE FLYER FROM YOU, MR. SHAW ON IT SHOWS ALL YOUR ACCOLADES, SOME NICE PITCHES YOU USE AS A KID AND YOUR WIFE. BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE ON THE BACK, BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. AND I GO, WOW, COOL. WELL, THIS GUY'S A GOOD DUDE AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT, BUT RECENT REVELATIONS AT A LECTURE MADE BY MR. SHAW IN FEBRUARY, 2019 AT RIO HONDO ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, HIS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH SAVE LAHABRA. WE FOUND THE TRUTH ABOUT MR. SHAW AND THIS LECTURE, YOU BELITTLED YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS YOU SHOWED YOUR TRUE COLORS WERE A BUNCH OF DUMMIES. YOU'RE THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM, AND THIS AUDIO TAPE IS REVEALING AND DISGUSTING, AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THIS AUDIO TAPE AND FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME, CHECK IT OUT ON FACEBOOK. YOU'LL BE BLOWN AWAY. UH, MR. SHAW, I TRULY FEEL YOU SHOULD RECUSE YOUR VOTE BECAUSE YOU'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR YEARS AGO. YOU ARE TOTALLY IN THE TANK FOR THIS A DEVELOPMENT. YOU DON'T NEED ALL THIS STUFF. YOU'VE ALREADY MADE YOUR MIND UP YOUR VOTES, SITTING AT HOME ON THE SHELF. YOU JUST GOT TO GO GRAB IT. I JUST FEEL THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO HERE. HONESTLY, IT'S A RIGHT FOR YOU. IT'S RIGHT FOR YOUR FAMILY, YOUR WONDERFUL FAMILY, ACTUALLY. AND ALL OF US IN THE CITY OF LA. I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE RANCHO LA HARBOR DEVELOPMENT. AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO COME DOWN. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. LET'S UH, TAKE A FINAL BREAK. IT'S QUARTER AFTER NINE, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL RESUME TILL 10 30. ALRIGHT. WE'RE ALL PRESENT. SO WE ARE BACK IN SESSION AND WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER AND JUST REMIND EVERYBODY WE'RE AT NINE 30 WOULD LIKE TO END [02:35:01] AT 10 30. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PROFESSIONALISM THAT IS SPOKEN. I APPRECIATE THAT. YES, RIGHT THERE. AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND TAKE HER AWAY. HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT HUGHES LIVE IN LAHABRA 1301 SMOKE-FREE COURT. I LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE. UH, I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS. I WAS THERE BEFORE THE GOLF COURSE WAS BUILT. AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST IT IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, LENNARA HAD THROWN OUT. UH, I NOTICED I SPOKE IN THE ZOOM MEETING FOR THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UH, I THREW OUT A WATER NUMBERS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I SAW LENNART CAME BACK WITH A, THEY USE WHAT, 190 MILLION, UH, GALLONS OF WATER TO WATER THE GOLF COURSE OR A 90 MILLION, UH, AVERAGE GOLF COURSE, GENERALLY A IS ABOUT 130 MILLION GALLONS, UH, NO 47 MILLION, 450,000 GALLONS PER YEAR. UH, THE AVERAGE, UH, PERSON, ACCORDING TO THE MUNICIPAL DISTRICT OF ORANGE COUNTY, UH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, 13, I'M SORRY, 13,000, UH, 13,613 MILLION, 651,000 GALLONS OF WATER. THAT'S JUST FOR ONE PERSON, UH, GENERALLY, UH, 35,000 GALLONS PER DAY, PER RESIDENT TIMES FOR APPROXIMATELY 440 HOMES, 15,400,000 GALLONS OF WATER USE. SO IN REGARDS TO THE GOLF COURSE, UH, THEY MAY USE A LITTLE BIT MORE. MAYBE THEY NEED TO, UH, UH, REVAMP THEIR PLAN ON THE WATER USAGE. UH, I'M NOT A BIG GOLFER. I'VE GOLFED ABOUT 10 TIMES THERE. I JUST LIKE TO GOLF AND MAKE FUN OF THE GUYS THAT ARE SERIOUS ABOUT GOLFING. THE, UH, I JUST LIKE THE OPEN SPACE. NOW, WHEN THEY DID BUILD A GOLF COURSE, IT ALSO, UH, CAUSED SOME DAMAGE JUST FROM THE EARTH, MOVING OF SOME OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA, UH, WHICH HAD TO BE REPAIRED. YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR SLIDERS FOR THE BACK DOORS, JUST FROM THE MOVEMENT OF IT HAD TO BE REPAIRED FROM THAT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION THING AND THERE'S GOING TO BE DAMAGE TO HOMES. BUT MY MAIN POINT IS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, LET THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I GUESS, UH, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF, UH, HIGHER DENSITY HOMES IN THE AREA, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CITY HALL OVER THERE. THE, WHERE THE OLD HOTEL USED TO BE, WHERE THE DON STEVE'S, UH, USED TO BE RIGHT DOWN HERE, I THINK BREO OR BEAT BILL. UH, AND THEN YOU GET A LITTLE POTENT. THEN THEY THROW IN A LITTLE DANGLE THING, OH, WE'LL THROW A POSTAGE STAMP PARK IN THERE WITH IT. UH, WE'VE GOT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO CRAM TOO MANY PEOPLE IN ONE SPACE. I DON'T THINK HUMAN BEINGS ARE DESIGNED FOR THAT. UH, AND IN ALL OF THIS AIR TRAFFIC, I HAVE TO ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND PLAN MY DAY WHEN I DO GO TO THE STORE, BECAUSE IT'S MISERABLE GETTING OUT THERE ON IMPERIAL HIGHWAY OR BEACH BOULEVARD, AND THIS IS GONNA MAKE IT MUCH WORSE. WE ARE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, ASKING YOU GUYS, UH, YOU PEOPLE, THE COUNCIL, UH, I COULD BE SITTING AT HOME. I DIDN'T, I SPENT FOUR AND A HALF HOURS LAST NIGHT SITTING OUT THERE IN THAT COLD PARKING LOT, UH, LISTENED TO THAT DOG AND PONY SHOW FROM DNR. UH, JUST SO I'D HAVE COME BACK HERE TONIGHT. I ALMOST DIDN'T WANT TO CAUSE I WAS TIRED FROM STAYING UP LATE LAST NIGHT. UH, I LOST A LOT OF SLEEP FROM A LISTEN TO THOSE GUYS. I LISTENED INTO THEIR, UH, THEIR LAWYER WHO WAS LIKE A PIT BULL GOING AFTER SOMEONE, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SACRAMENTO COMING DOWN ON US. WELL, WE'RE ASKING YOU AS PART OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE'LL GET TOGETHER, COME BACK AT SACRAMENTO. THEY SHOULDN'T BE TELLING US WHAT TO DO IN OUR OWN CITY. THEY'RE SAYING HOW THAT PLACE IS GOING TO BE. THE, THE JUUL OF LAHABRA LAHABRA IS ALREADY A JUUL WITHOUT THAT PLACE, BUT HAVING MORE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO MAKE, UH, TAKE THE LESTER OFF OF THAT JUUL. WE DID, WE ARE HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE DO NOT WANT IT. I CAME HERE, UH, LAST YEAR AND SPOKEN TO COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS WANT. THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE. NOW I HAVE, UH, TALKED TO A PERSON THAT IS A FRIEND OF MINE THAT IS FOR, AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE TOUTING THE, MAKING THE PUBLIC SPACE OPEN FOR, UH, EVERYONE. WELL, THAT ACTUAL, UH, SMALL AREA THAT IS, UH, THE, UH, THE NATURAL HABITAT. AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE ON THE GOLF COURSE AND HE SAYS, OKAY, THERE'S A LITTLE SIGN. HE SAYS, OKAY, DON'T CROSS THIS FOR THIS LITTLE SMALL STRIP OF AREA, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO RUIN THE NATURAL HABITAT. THE MAIN THING [02:40:01] THAT DESTROYS AN APPLE NATURAL HABITAT IS MAN INTERFERING WITH THE NATURAL HABITAT BY GOING IN THERE AND DESTROYING IT. UH, OBVIOUSLY I, I TALKED IN THE ZOOM MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, WE HAVE, UH, COYOTES COYOTES HILLS. OH MY GOSH, WHAT A COINCIDENCE, UH, ARE THEY NEED TO EAT ALL THE ANIMALS, ALL THE NATURAL HABITAT THAT'S OUT THERE. THEY NEED A PLACE, UH, TO LIVE A MAN IS ENCROACHING AND, AND TAKING CHUNKS AND CHUNKS AWAY. AND THEN, AND THEN WE WONDER WHY THE COYOTE IS COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, LOOKING FOR PEOPLE'S PETS, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING IT AWAY. PUTTING ALL THOSE HOUSINGS IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE ISSUE. AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRAPPED. THEY'RE GOING TO BE EUTHANIZED. UH, THEY HAVE LOTS OF RABBITS OUT THERE TO EAT THAT THEY COULD TAKE CARE OF, UH, AND LOOK FOR FOOD SQUIRRELS. MMM BYE. I PUT IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THERE AND INCREASING THE TRAFFIC IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA. UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. GOMEZ HAS RECUSED HIMSELF AND, UH, AND I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, RUMORS ABOUT MR. SHAW, YOU KNOW, BEING FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE ASKING YOU, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT. I'M, I'M JUST ONE PERSON. AND YOU ALWAYS THINK, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP FOR A LITTLE KID, OH, YOU KNOW, IS MY VOTE EVER GONNA ACCOUNT REALLY? AND ALL OF THE THOUSANDS OF VOTES AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE DOESN'T REALLY COUNT. WELL, I'M HOPING THAT IT'S GOING TO COUNT. AND I'M HOPING MY VOICE IS GOING TO BE HEARD BY YOU PEOPLE, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. I DON'T COME OUT THERE AND SIT FOUR AND A HALF HOURS OUTSIDE IN THAT PARKING LOT BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO. I'VE GOT PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS TO DO. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU, UH, WENT DOWN YOUR STREET AND FOUND OUT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE LYING ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, FORMS FILLED OUT BACK TO THAT. MY FRIEND, THAT IS FOR, FOR IT, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE. I SAID, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU JUST GOT RID OF THE GOLF COURSE AND PUT NOTHING THERE? AND HE SAID, OH YEAH, THAT'D BE NICE. WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ALWAYS TWIST IT ON THE OTHER HAND ALL THE WAY OVER, OKAY. GOVERNMENT, CITY, GOVERNMENTS, AND OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS HAVE GONE AND CONDEMN PROPERTIES AND TAKEN IT AND THEN PUT THEIR OWN STUFF IN THERE, MAKE IT A WHOLE OPEN SPACE, A BEAUTIFUL SPACE FOR EVERYONE. IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING UP THERE. THEY DON'T LIKE THE GOLF COURSE. WELL, PUT A FARM IN THERE. MAYBE THEY CAN GROW SOME CORN FOR OUR CORN FESTIVAL THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR HAVE SOME CITRUS FOR OUR CITRUS FESTIVAL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT CAN GO. BUT THE MAIN THING IS, AND THEY NEVER CAN GET AROUND. IT IS THE TRAFFIC, THE INCREASED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING TO BE IN OUR CITY WHAT'S MEAN IT MAKES IT, IT MAKES IT FRUSTRATES EVERYONE. EVERYONE'S BEEN STUCK ON THE FREEWAY. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING JUST TO GET AROUND THE TOWN NOWADAYS. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT HOMES UP THERE ON, UP ABOVE THE GOLF COURSE. UM, I DON'T KNOW UP THERE, BUT ALSO EMPATHIZE FOR THEM. IF THEY, YOU GO UP THERE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW THEY PULL, PULL THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM. AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND YOU JUST LOOKING DOWN ON HOMES, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE HOMELESS, THAT LITTLE, A WAITING POOL, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A HOMELESS BATHTUB, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE ALL KNOW WE ALL SEEN IT. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, UH, THE BATHROOMS YET, IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT THE HOMELESS, THE POOLS, THE PARKS, THE BENCHES THAT I'VE SEEN THEM. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. THEY, THEY, THEY GO IN, UH, UNDERNEATH TRAIN BRIDGES. THEY GO UNDERNEATH THE OTHER BRIDGES, UH, FREEWAY BRIDGES. HOW CAN YOU SOLVE IT? NO ONE REALLY HAS AN ANSWER FOR THAT. CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD. THERE ARE SOME UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE, UH, THAT MAY HAVE LOST THEIR JOB AND MAY COME TEMPORARY OR HOMELESS. BUT USUALLY THEY'RE SMART ENOUGH TO FIND A PLACE THAT HAS TEMPORARY HOUSING. AND BECAUSE THOSE PLACES ARE AVAILABLE OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW HAVING HOMES THERE ARE GOING TO BE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM AWAY CHEAP THAT'S FOR DARN SURE. BECAUSE EVERY HOME NOWADAYS IS EXPENSIVE. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. THAT'S THE PRICE OF LIVING IN BEAUTIFUL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. WHEN I GO DOWN TO THE BEACH, DOES EVERYONE, IS EVERYONE FACING THE BEACH OR ARE THEY LOOKING BACK AT THE NICE HOMES THAT ARE THERE AT THE THING? NO, THEY'RE FACING THE BEACH. I JUST, WHEN I GO UP IDAHO, I JUST LOVE THE FEELING. WHEN I COME UP THERE, I HAVE THAT SMALL AREA OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND THEN I GET OVER THE IDAHO AND THEN I'VE GOT THAT AREA IN FULLERTON. THERE IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR JUST TO HAVE THAT OPEN SPACE WHERE YOU DON'T SEE HOUSES AFTER HOUSES. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST FOR QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT'S WHAT A LA HARBOR [02:45:01] LIKES. THEY LIKE TO TOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CORN FESTIVAL AND GETTING TOGETHER. WE WANT TO SEE IT, UH, STAY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. WE, WE WE'D LIKE TO GET RID OF THE TRAFFIC, WHICH WE AIN'T GOING TO BE TO BE ABLE TO DO NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW, WE'RE ASKING YOU NOT TO MAKE IT WORSE. AND HONESTLY, TO OUR HEARTS, LIKE I SAY, I'M HOPING THAT MY VOICE IS GOING TO COUNT AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LISTEN TO WHAT, UH, THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING AS WELL. WE'RE HERE TO SAY THAT WE REALLY DO NOT WANT THIS. AND, UH, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY. LENARA IS DANGLING A CARROT AND WE'RE AT THE TAXES. YOU KNOW, YOU CHANGE THE ZONING FOR A LOT. OH YEAH, NO, IT'S AN ARWEN. NOW WE CAN MAKE AN, AN R TWO AND GETTING EXTRA TAXES OUT OF IT. AND THEN NO, LET'S, LET'S MAKE AN R FOUR OR 10, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER AND PUT APARTMENTS IN THERE. IT'S IT'S ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY. AND SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO NOT GO THROUGH WITH THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK TONIGHT AND SPEAKING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS TOM BLANE. I LIVE ON 1800 SOUTH WATSON STREET IN LAHABRA. I HAVE BEEN A LA HARBOR RESIDENT FOR OVER 44 YEARS. I LIVED IN WESTBRIDGE FOR 21 OF THAT 44 YEARS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF MYSELF, JUST WANTING TO COMPARE TO THE KWAN FAMILY. I'M AN OWNER OF A FAMILY RUN BUSINESS EVENT, EXPOSITION SERVICES, A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 48 YEARS. WE'VE ALSO HAD GOOD TIMES AND BAD YEARS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY BUSINESS SINCE COVID HIT IN MARCH. I HAD TO LAY OFF OVER 80 PEOPLE. IT IS REALLY HIS EFFECTED ME IN MY FAMILY. I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN'T DO A DANG THING ABOUT IT, BUT TO WHAT THEY'D KWAN FAMILY SAID ABOUT REZONING. I OWN SIX AND A HALF ACRES WITH 110,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN BRAILLE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT REZONED TO OUR ONE AND GET ANOTHER 50% MORE ON THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY. BUT I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY KNOWING THAT IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OF BRIA IS IN THEIR MASTER PLAN OF MAKING THAT A HIGH DENSITY HOME AREA. AGAIN, THAT'S COSTING ME SOME MONEY, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO WITH IT. I COULD SIT THERE AND FIGHT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND SPEND YEARS OF TRYING TO GET IT ENTITLEMENT DONE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE. I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU MANY TIMES. THIS IS NOT MY FIRST TIME. I'M PROBABLY SURE YOU REMEMBER ME GOING EVERY TIME WE'VE EVER BEEN UP HERE. THE REASON WHY I MOVED TO WESTRIDGE FROM MY OTHER HOME, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS THE DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH FOR LAHABRA. IT WAS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR LAHABRA. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WENT THERE. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ALSO FELT IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO GO WAS THE LATE STEVE ANDERSON, WHO WAS A FORMER MAYOR AND A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE TOLD ME TOM, HE GOES, THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT. HE GOES, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG. I GO, WHY DO YOU SAY THAT STEVE? HE GOES, YOU'LL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT VIEW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. GO AWAY FROM YOU. IT'S THERE FOR YOUR LIFE AFTER LIVING THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND I'M GETTING READY TO RETIRE. I'M LOOKING AT THAT BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM ME. WHY, WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE ONE FAMILY IS HAVING AN ISSUE. I HAVE THAT HARD [02:50:01] TO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL LET THAT HAPPEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO LEARNED WHEN I WAS THERE, I WENT TO THE CITY AND TOOK MY PLANS AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE PLAN CHECKER THREE TIMES THE SAME PLAN. AND IT WAS DENIED EACH TIME. AND THEN FINALLY, I WENT THERE AND ASKED FOR THE HEAD GUY TO COME OUT AND TALK TO ME. AND I SAID, I'VE TAKEN THE PLAN HERE. AND EACH ONE HAS SAID A DIFFERENT THING. I GO, HE STARTED LOOKING AT IT AND HE GOES, OH, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU LIVE, MR. BLAINE. HE GOES, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. AND I GO, WHY DO YOU SEE THAT? AND HE GOES, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WANT TO GET A VARIANCE, YOU CAN SPEND A THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE IN LA OPERA. AND I GO, WHAT DOES THAT GET YOU? HE GOES, IT'LL GET APPROVED. THEN HE STARTED REALLY THINKING ABOUT IT. HE GOES, WELL, OH, YOU LIVE RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BUILD A HOME BEHIND YOU EVER. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING A VARIANCE. HE STAMPED IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE, I WALKED OUT THE DOOR THAT WAS 21 YEARS AGO, 21 YEARS AGO. SO I JUST GOT A WONDER WHY ALL THIS IS CHANGING. YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS FIRST CAME OUT ONLY, AND NONE OF THE CATION WENT OUT TO PEOPLE WHO LIVED WITHIN THREE TO 500 FEET FROM THE PROCESS OF THE PROJECT, HOW DOES THE LAHABRA CITIZENS EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? IT'S JUST THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT DID. SO AS A GROUP UP THERE, WHEN WE WERE NOTIFYING, WE STARTED WALKING AROUND AND ASKING PEOPLE, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT? NOW? THEY HAD NO IDEA, NO IDEA. SO I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU LOOK AT THE CITIZENS HERE WHO HAVE BASICALLY STARTED TO INFORMING LAHABRA OF WHAT'S GOING ON. YES, WE'RE THE BAD PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE NO, WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY INFORMING THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA OF WHAT COULD BE SOME MAJOR CHANGES IN THEIR LIFESTYLE. WE'RE NOT RADICALS AND WE'RE NOT DEMONS. I DIDN'T WEAR MY GREEN SHIRT TONIGHT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BASICALLY SCARE ANYBODY. LIKE WHAT LENARA SAID, WE'RE WE'RE ALL BAD PEOPLE. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SITTING IN THIS ROOM. WE JUST HAPPENED TO LIVE OVER THERE. YES. DO WE GET A LITTLE MORE EFFECTED? COULD BE. BUT THE WHOLE CITY OF LA HOPPER IS GETTING THE PICTET. NOW LINDAR IS THE LARGEST HOME BUILDER IN THE U S BUT WHY ARE THEY SCARED OF US? WE DON'T HAVE WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, ALL VOLUNTEERS. WE DON'T HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEHIND US TO BASICALLY TRY TO PUSH THIS ALONG. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE WORKED WEEKENDS, LIKE MYSELF, PUT MY OWN PERSONAL MONEY IN AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE GET THE, GET THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO YEAH, WE TAKE A VESTED INTEREST OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IT'S JUST NOT FOR OURSELVES. IT'S FOR THE WHOLE CITY OF LAHABRA. AND WHEN I WALKED AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER LAHABRA THEY THANKED ME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW AND NOT A CLUE. SO IT'S THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO GO OUT THERE. ONCE WE STARTED DOING ALL THIS, THEN THAT'S WHEN LUNARS STARTED PUTTING OUT, I WANT TO CALL IT THEIR PROPAGANDA. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUR, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT PROPAGANDA TOO. BUT WE PUT OUT THERE AS MUCH OF WHAT THE REAL FACTS COULD BE ON THIS WHOLE PROJECT. AND I UNDERSTAND FROM THE VERY FIRST MEETING, I SAT IN HERE WITH JIM. WE WERE THE LAST TWO PEOPLE SITTING RIGHT IN THAT THING. AND WE STAYED HERE FOR THAT COUNCIL MEETING. WHEN YOU FINALLY WENT OVER YOUR BUDGETS AND WHEN WE SAW THOSE FACTS OF WHAT YOUR BUDGET WOULD BE, WE KNEW AT THAT TIME WHERE THE DOWNFALL WAS OF LAHABRA AND WHY THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY NEEDED THIS PROJECT TO COME IN AND IT'S ALL ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS. I GET IT AS A BUSINESSMAN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENCY, YOUR PEOPLE. [02:55:02] IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE IT RIGHT? WITHOUT BASICALLY PUTTING MORE PEOPLE IN A LITTLE RAT HOLE TO LIVE. I DIDN'T MOVE TO LA HABRA FOR THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE AS MUCH HEAT AS YOU HAVE. I MEAN, TO HAVE THREE DAYS OF A PLANNING COMMISSION WITH OVER 200 TO 300 PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT ON A ZOOM MEETING THAT WAS OUTRAGEOUS, I'VE SAT IN THE BRAY OF PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON. THAT LAHABRA SAID A IN FACT FOR THAT ONE, I KNOW THAT YOU HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES AND THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE TRUE FACTS ARE IN HOW THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BASICALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY VOTED ON A 41, VOTE ON A PLANNING COMMISSION ANYWHERE SHOULD BASICALLY, SHOULD BE SOME GOOD HANDWRITING ON THE WALL IN RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND HOW THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE WHY ARE THEY A PLANNING COMMISSION? BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE WHO DIGS DEEP. THEY SHOULD BE ONE THAT DIGS THE DEEPEST AND REALLY KNOWS ALL THE FACTS. AND THEN THEY COME AND GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. LOOK AT THIS, UNDERSTAND IT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COME BACK TO US. SO IT'S NOW IN YOUR LAP. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH. I MEAN THAT LAST NIGHT DOG AND PONY SHOW THAT GREAT PR THAT LEONARDO DID. IT WAS OUTSTANDING. I GOT TO SAY IT LOOKED NICE, BUT I MEAN, YOU GOT TO HAVE HEARD ALL THE FAULTS STATEMENT THAT HAD BEEN GOING ON. JUST THE TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE OF FALSIFYING DOCUMENTS. IF I WAS SITTING IN YOUR CHAIR, I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM BECAUSE BOY, THEY JUST TOOK ONE OVER ON YOU GUYS. IF YOU VOTE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT SHOWS YOUR TRUE COLORS, WHAT BILL DO TO GET WHATEVER THEY WANT. AND YOU CAN SEE IT. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE COME UP HERE TONIGHT? AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL I HEARD THAT LAST NIGHT, THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD THEIR KIDS TO THEMSELVES TO YOU NAME IT, FALSIFIED, BOY, I JUST WOULD DREAD THAT YOU WOULD VOTE YES. WITH ALLOWING A COMPANY THAT HAS STAMPED THEIR MARK LIKE THAT. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, HOW MANY SMOKE CAN BE ERS? DOES IT TAKE, LEONARDA HAVE FOR THIS PROJECT TO REALLY TRUST THEIR WORDS OR ACTIONS? I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY DON'T KNOW. SO AT THIS POINT I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO REALLY TAKE YOUR TIME, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. EVERYBODY HERE HAS TAKEN THEIR TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE, COME UP HERE AND SAY THEIR PIECE OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR CONCERNS. AND THEY ARE HOPING THAT BASICALLY YOU GUYS MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT TONIGHT, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE A YES OR NO, THEN PLEASE LET THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA MAKE THAT VOTE FOR YOU. BECAUSE I THINK THEY WILL BASICALLY MAKE THE RIGHT VOTE. AND IF IT DOESN'T GO MO UH, I WOULD SAY AS A YES VOTE. AND IF IT GOES AS A NO, THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S A CITY CITIZENS OF LAHABRA THAT ARE MAKING THAT DECISION FOR YOU. IF YOU FEEL YOU'RE THAT MUCH IN THE HOT SEAT, PLEASE, THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT INITIATIVE OUT THERE. THAT'S WHY THE BALLOTS OUT THERE. WE KNEW A LONG TIME AGO WHEN WE PUT THIS INITIATIVE TOGETHER, THAT WE FELT THAT LENARA WOULD BE DOING [03:00:01] THE END AROUND RUN RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO DO THIS BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND HERE WE ARE. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WHEN I TALKED TO JIM ABOUT DIEGO, THAT'S REALLY THINKING UP, YOU KNOW, REALLY AS A FUTURE. AND HE GOES, THAT'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN. SO HERE WE ARE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS AND BY COMMENTS IN MY VIEW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS . I'VE BEEN LIVING IN LA BARBARA FOR 20 YEARS IN THE WESTRIDGE COMMUNITY. I WAS MARRIED IN THE WESTRIDGE BANQUET HALL. THAT BEING SAID, NOW, WHAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THE CITY COUNCIL IS INSISTING ON VOTING ON A TENTATIVE PLAN. IT'S NOT A FINAL PLAN. IT HAS TOO MANY UNKNOWNS FOR A VOTE AS LAST NIGHT'S FIRST SPEAKER SAID, AND I QUOTE, WE NORMALLY BRING A FINAL PLAN TO THE CITY, NOT A GENERAL PLAN. AND HE WAS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LAND OWNERS. WHY THE HURRY IS IT TO IMPOSE THE WILL OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THE CITIZENS OF LAHABRA AND NULL AND VOID THE VOTE ON MEASURE X. I CAN'T THINK OF A REASON OTHER THAN THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. THE MAYORAL OFFICE AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA. IF IT GOES THROUGH WITH THIS VOTE AND APPROVES, THIS TENTATIVE PLAN, THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD NOT VOTE ON A TENTATIVE PLAN EVER LET ALONE. WHEN THERE'S A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT TO SETTLE THIS MATTER BY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY YESTERDAY'S FIRST SPEAKER SAID THERE ARE TOO MANY SPECIFIC UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY. AIR QUALITY WILL BE AFFECTED TRAFFIC CONGESTION, CO2 LEVELS. I COULD NOT NOTE THEM ALL DOWN AS HE RUSHED THROUGH THEM AND SAID, THERE ARE UNAVOIDABLE. THEY ARE UNAVOIDABLE. AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. AND THAT SHOULD NOT, AND COULD NOT STOP THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. I SAY THE HECK WITH HIM AND THE HECK WITH THAT, THE QUAN FAMILY ALREADY MADE A HUGE EFFORT TO BACKPEDAL ON EVERY AGREEMENT THEY MADE SINCE THEY PURCHASED THIS LAND. HOW CAN WE TRUST ANYTHING? THEY SAY IN THIS TENTATIVE PLAN, THEY BOUGHT THE LAND WITH EXPLICIT REASON TO USE IT FOR A GOLF COURSE AND TO OPERATE A GOLF COURSE. NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THE PROFIT. THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FISHING GAME, WHICH SOLD THEM THE LAND. AS LONG AS THEY KEPT IT PROTECTED AND UNDISTURBED. NOW THEY WANT TO DISTURB AND MOLEST THAT LAND. CAN WE TRUST THEM NOT TO CHANGE THEIR TENTATIVE PLANS? ONCE THEY GET A YES VOTE? WE KNOW THEY KNOW THERE'S OIL IN THE SOIL UNDER THE GROUND THAT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS. THEY ARE OKAY, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ON TOP OF THAT LAND. THIS WAS DESIGNATED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USE. NOW THEY WANT TO SAY THAT'S NONSENSE TO HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS. THE LAND IS SAFE. THE CITY IS CONSIDERING IT TO BE OKAY SINCE IT WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE IN 10 TO 15 YEARS TIME, IF NEW HOMEOWNERS GET SICK BECAUSE OF THE TOXIC NATURE OF THE LAND, THE HOME SIT ON, IS THAT REALLY THE STANDARD WE SHOULD ACCEPT OF OUR LEADERSHIP, TIM SHAW, I'M ADDRESSING YOU SPECIFICALLY. YOU'RE NOT UNBIASED. YOU'RE CLEARLY A LIAR. WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE, WHEN YOU CLEARLY VOLTS VOICED YOUR OPINION OVER A YEAR AGO ON A RECORDED AUDIO, YOU WERE HEARD SAYING MANY DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS FROM WHAT I HEARD, IT SOUNDED LIKE A DRUNKEN SOUND OFF TIM SHAW. YOUR VOTE IS A VOTE OF BETRAYAL TO YOUR OFFICE, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE OF LAHABRA. THE KWAN FAMILY BUILT A GOLF COURSE. THEY CHOSE TO OPERATE A GOLF COURSE. AND NOW [03:05:01] THAT THE PROFITS OF A SALE OF THE LAND ARE TOO HIGH AND TOO GREAT. THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE LAND USE OF THE GOLF COURSE AFTER SO MANY HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PURCHASED IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO BE NEAR A GOLF COURSE, HOW CAN WE SAY THE DEVELOPERS AND THE QUAN FAMILY ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TENTATIVE PLAN AS IT IS? HOW CAN WE TRUST THEM TO STICK TO THIS TENTATIVE PLAN? THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ABANDON THE VOTE TONIGHT AND LET THE VOICE OF ITS CITIZENS BE HEARD ON THE VOTE OF MEASURE X. THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT AS IS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HEARING ME OUT. AND I STRONGLY URGE YOU AGAIN, ABANDON THE BOAT, LET THE CITIZENS DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. SO WE'RE AT 10 O'CLOCK. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? BRIANNA? OKAY. KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH, HOW LONG A TIME THEY NEED. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. UH, MY NAME IS SIMON CHAN LAHABRA RESIDENTS. I LIKE EVERY OTHER, THE HARBOR RESIDENT COME HERE TONIGHT TO DELIVER THE SAME MESSAGE AND ONLY ONE NOTE TO REIGN CHORE. LAHABRA OKAY. LAST 30 YEARS LAHABRA HAS MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS, NO FUN. THE WAKENS LAND OR ANY BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, THEN COME OVER TO US. THEY ALWAYS BRING ALONG WITH A POSITIVE EIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. OKAY. NOBODY KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS PLAY IT DOWN. THEY MAKE THE NUMBER LOOK BEAUTIFUL. GOOD FOR THE PROJECT. NOBODY KNOW IT UNTIL LIKE THE PROJECT IS ONGOING OR LIKE AFTER YOU'RE DONE, WHO FEEL THE PRAYING WHO WILL FEEL THE PAIN, THE ES THE RESIDENTS, THEY WILL FEEL, THEY WILL SEE ALL THE PROBLEMS SURFACE UP LATER, EITHER LIKE A NEW TRAFFIC LIGHT ON THE STREET, OR LIKE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT HAVE A LONGER TIME OF WAITING. POOR AIR QUALITY, NOISE, EVERYTHING COMING UP. OKAY. NOW IT IS TIME TO CHANGE. LAHABRA RESTAURATEURS SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN CITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHAT WE NEED IN ROOT OF WHAT DEVELOPERS OFFER TO THE CITY. OKAY. THE GOLF COAST IS THE LANDMARK AND THE ICON OF THE CITY. IF I TELL ANYONE WHERE I LIVE, BARBARA, THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IT, BUT YOU BUY, SAY THE, OH, YOUR SCREWS TO THE GOLF COURSE UP ON THE BEACH. THEY WILL KNOW WHERE IT IS. I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. THEY'RE THE OWNER IS NOT MAKING THE MONEY, BUT IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN MAKE THE MONEY. IF THEY DIDN'T RUN YOUR WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN RESELL IT AND BUILD THE HOUSE ON YOU TO MAKE A PROFIT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S NOT THE CITY RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL. NOW THIS IS THE LAST OPEN SPACE FOR LAHABRA. WE SHOULD PLAY A PE CAREFULLY. ANY MISTAKE IS NOT EASY TO CHANGE BACK YESTERDAY THAT DEVELOPERS, UH, LENDERS, PAOLI TO SAY THEY HAVE HOW MANY A SUPPORTER. I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NUMBER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YES, NOT CORRECT IS INACCURATE. WHY? BECAUSE I KNOW THE NUMBERS SHOULD AT LEAST MINUS ONE, BECAUSE SOME, AN OFFER, EITHER PEOPLE SIGNED FOR MY FAMILY. OKAY. SIMPLY JUST A SUPPORTER REPORT. YOU CANNOT MAKE IT RIGHT. ACCURATE, OPEN, TRANSPARENT. HOW I CAN TRUST THEM ON THEIR YEAR I'LL REPORT ON THEIR LIKE, HANDLED ALL DAY, UH, ESTIMATION OR BELIEF IN THEIR CLAIM. OKAY. SO LIKE I SAY, [03:10:01] IF THEY MISS INFORMED INFORMATION, IF WE MAKE ANY MISTAKE WHO TAKE THE LOSS US, THE LAW RESIDENT, LAHABRA RESIDENTS AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE LAST LAHABRA TO OPEN SPACE, LET THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A SATE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT. LET'S STOP THE OPEN SPACE PROJECT VOTE. YES. ON THE MEASURE. X LET LAHABRA RESIDENTS DECIDE THE FUTURE OF THE CITY AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW LAHABRA IS BUILT BY THE EL LAHABRA RESIDENTS AND THE CITY COUNCIL. NOT THAT YOU WERE ALL PERS THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SPEAKERS ARE OUT THERE AND WHERE WE'RE AT? WHAT'S THAT 12 SPEAKERS. YEAH. THERE'S PLENTY AFTER THAT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UH, I WILL SAY HOW FAST WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT. 12 IS TAKING ALMOST MORE THAN AN HOUR OR SO, SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA STOP AT 10 30. SO RANA, YOU MIGHT START CHECKING HOW LONG PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE AND LET THEM KNOW. WE MAY NOT GET TO THE END. OKAY. UNLESS EVERYBODY GETS A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE FASTER ON THEIR, WHAT THEY WANT TO TELL US. GOOD. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. NAME, UH, TAREQ YUSIF, T A R E K Y O U S E F. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SPEAK. I'VE LIVED IN WESTRIDGE FOR 19 YEARS NOW. I LIVED 17 YEARS AT MY PARENTS' HOUSE ON FLOYD COURT. AND TWO YEARS AGO I BOUGHT A HOME AND I'VE CURRENTLY LIVED THERE WITH MY WIFE AND MY TWO MONTH OLD DAUGHTER. SO I TRIED TO COME IN HERE AND BE AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE QUAD FAMILY SITUATION. BUT I LOOKED AT THIS FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES THAT I THOUGHT WERE THE MOST OBJECTIVE. FIRST OF THE, FIRST OF ALL, FROM AN ETHICAL AND A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. LAST NIGHT, I HEARD THAT THIS MANAGEABLE NRC, THAT THIS PROJECT HAD INTEGRITY WOVEN ALL THROUGH IT. I TOO LIKE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAD MY NAME FORGED. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT FORGING THE RESIDENTS NAMES. WHAT'S THE HONORABLE BOTH OUT. ARE THERE ANY INTEGRITY IN THAT? AND IN THE RURAL WORLD, IF I WERE TO FORGE ANYBODY'S SIGNATURE OR ANYBODY ELSE WOULD AFFORD ANYBODY'S SIGNATURE FOR FINANCIAL GAIN, I THINK THAT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. I THINK THERE'S RAMIFICATIONS CIVILLY. I THINK THERE'S AT THE VERY MINIMUM, A CANCELLATION OF WHATEVER CONTRACT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ON BECAUSE THAT COMPLETE UNDERLINES IT, ANYTHING THAT THEY SAY, ESPECIALLY VALIDITY OR LEGITIMACY IN MY MIND, LAST OF ALL, KEEP THIS VERY SHORT. UM, I WANTED TO FINISH BY SAYING THAT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I HADN'T BIVALENT FEELINGS COMING IN HERE BETWEEN PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WHAT'S RIGHT. AND WHAT'S WRONG. I THINK THAT YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO DO, TRY TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE AND TO TAKE COMMON, GOOD TO CONSIDERATION WHEN MAKING DECISIONS FOR ME THIS MATTER IS A MATTER OF QUALITY VERSUS QUANTITY. QUANTITATIVELY MORE HOUSES DO PROVIDE MORE HOMES FOR PEOPLE IN NEED, BUT AT WHAT PRICE THAT PRICE IS, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ANY REASONABLE PERSON WILL AGREE THAT AN OVERPOPULATED AND UNSUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY IS UNHEALTHIER THAN A WELLSPACE AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY WITH THAT SAID WHEN IT COMES TO ALL BEINGS AND THE RIGHT TO QUALITY OF LIFE, I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL SIDE WITH THE, WITH THE REASON ON THE I'M SORRY, WHEN IT COMES TO ALL BEINGS, THEY'RE RIDING QUALITY OF LIFE, QUALITY, SUPERSEDES QUANTITY. I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL SIDE WITH REASON ON THIS ONE AND LISTENING TO THE, AND LISTEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE AND THE COMMON GOOD AND DO NOT UNDERMINE WHAT THEY STAND FOR BY GOING AGAINST THEIR DECISIONS. AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I'LL GIVE MORE TIME FOR OTHER PEOPLE. THANK YOU. SO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, UH, MY NAME'S RYAN I'M 22 YEARS OLD. I'VE LIVED IN THE HARBOR FOR 22 YEARS. UM, AND HONESTLY I WAS SITTING ON MY COUCH ABOUT TWO HOURS AGO AND DECIDED TO COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK OR WAS THAT WELL, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, SO YEAH, OBVIOUSLY BEEN A RESIDENT HERE, MY WHOLE LIFE, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, UM, GONE [03:15:01] TO SCHOOL AROUND HERE, PLAYED LITTLE LEAGUE AT THOSE FIELDS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A BAD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'VE SEEN GOOD DEVELOPMENTS. UM, I CAN REMEMBER DRIVING TO A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BY THAT RUNDOWN MOTEL FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS. AND NOW IT'S THOSE BEAUTIFUL APARTMENTS. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, I, MYSELF AM AN AVID GOLFER AND WESTBRIDGE IS A PRETTY GOOD COURSE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, ALL OF THE SENTIMENT THAT WESTBRIDGE IS A BAD GOLF COURSE IS GOING DOWNHILL. I DON'T THINK SO. SINCE THE START OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A TEE TIME ANYWHERE. I MEAN, I'M AN ECONOMICS MAJOR. I GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO IN MAY, AND IT'S SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND. YOU GET RID OF WESTRIDGE. UM, SUPPLY GOES DOWN, DEMAND IS UP BECAUSE THE COVID, THERE'S LESS PLACES TO GOLF PRICES GO UP. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. OBVIOUSLY OTHER PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD GREAT POINTS ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT AS A YOUNG PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IN THIS COUNTRY, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE LOSING FAITH IN, IN OUR, UH, IN OUR SYSTEM, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS ELECTION YEAR 20, 20 IT'S CHAOS, NO ONE CAN AGREE ON ANYTHING. AND SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S HEALTHY FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT AT THIS LOCAL LEVEL, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS MR. SHAW INDIVIDUALLY. I SAW THAT RECORD. I HEARD THAT RECORDING FROM RIO HONDO AND AS A YOUNG PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT JUST FIRES ME UP BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FAITH IN YOU GUYS TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE IN THIS CITY. RIGHT? AND SO IT'S LIKE, THEY TEACH US THIS IN SCHOOL THAT, OH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. YOU ELECT THESE PEOPLE AND THEY SPEAK FOR YOU. WHEN YOU HEAR COMMENTS MADE ABOUT HIS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HIS CONSTITUENTS, WHICH IS ME. IT FIRES ME UP BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S A FUTILE EFFORT ON MY PART. IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE POINT? WHY DO I EVEN VOTE? RIGHT. THAT'S WHY YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T VOTE BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK IT COUNTS. CAUSE WE GO TO THINGS LIKE THIS AND WE JUST SIT HERE AND WE TALKED TO AN EMPTY ROOM. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GO HOME AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE WHATEVER WAY THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA VOTE BEFORE THIS WHOLE THING STARTED. SO I DON'T CARE MAKE YOUR DECISION, DO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY OF LAHABRA, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, WE'RE LOSING FAITH. AND WE'RE FRUSTRATED. MY LAST FINAL POINT HERE IS THAT I KNOW THOSE GUYS THAT LANARK, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A JOB TO DO, RIGHT? THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DEAL, CLOSERS DEAL MAKERS. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A FAT BONUS. IF THEY CAN GET THIS DEAL TO GO THROUGH. AND ONCE THEY DO THEY'RE OUT OF HERE, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CITY OF LAHABRA. THEY DON'T LIVE HERE, RIGHT? THEY COME IN, THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THAT LAND, BOOM DEAL DONE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL. MAKE THE DEAL ONTO THE NEXT ONE. WELL GUESS WHAT? ONCE YOU GET RID OF THAT OPEN SPACE, YOU CAN'T GET IT BACK. YOU CAN'T HAVE A MEETING IN 20 YEARS AND SAY, HMM, LET'S VOTE TO GET RID OF ALL THOSE HOUSES AND CREATE AN OPEN SPACE OR MAKE A GOLF COURSE. THERE'S NO LAND LEFT. LAND IS A LIMITED RESOURCE ORANGE COUNTY. AND THE 22 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE SEEN COUNTLESS AREAS DEVELOPED AND TURNED INTO HOMES. I LOVE TO GO SURFING. I DRIVE DOWN BEACH BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY TO HUNTINGTON BEACH. AND IN THE 22 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, THE TRAFFIC'S TRIPLED, IF NOT QUADRUPLED AND ALL THE OPEN SPACES THAT THERE USED TO BE ARE NOW HOUSES AND APARTMENTS SMASHED TOGETHER. SO MAKE YOUR DECISION, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE LOSING FAITH AND GETTING REAL FIRED UP ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HONESTLY IT'S DISAPPOINTING. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. BEAMISH UM, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO BE, UH, RETIRING. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. THAT'S WONDERFUL. I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL RETIREMENT. YOU AND YOUR WIFE, I CAN IMAGINE. AND HONORABLE. OH YES. CINDY SCOTTY. I AM A RESIDENT OF LA HABRA OF 22 YEARS. UM, AND I WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS, UH, HONORABLE COUNCIL, WOMAN ESPINOSA. UH, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND THEN HONORABLE, UH, [03:20:01] COUNCILMAN MADRANO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, TIM. YOU KNOW, TO LAST LAST NIGHT I WAS HERE FOUR HOURS, UM, HELPED, UH, PUT, UM, THINGS TOGETHER FOR ORGANIZATION FOR THE MEETING LAST NIGHT. UM, I WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME THIS EVENING BECAUSE MY ELDER LEE MOTHER IS STAYING WITH US. UM, SO I WAS WATCHING ONLINE AND DECIDED THAT I NEED TO COME DOWN HERE. UM, I WAS SPEAKING WITH MY MOM TODAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SHE WAS A RESIDENT IN FLORIDA FOR 10 YEARS. THEY RETIRED THERE AND, UH, WHEN I TOLD HER EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON, UM, WITH LAMAR AND, UH, WANTING TO GET RID OF THE BEAUTIFUL GOLF COURSE IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA, UM, SHE SAID, WHO DID YOU SAY IT WAS? I SAID . AND SHE SAID, OH, I KNOW THEM. SHE SAID THEY WERE IN THE PAPER ALL OF THE TIME IN FLORIDA BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THEIR HOMES. UM, PEOPLE WERE, UH, FURIOUS WITH THEM, LAWSUITS, ET CETERA. SO I DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO LOOK THEM UP. WHAT COULD I FIND? SO I PUT IN LAMAR LIES AND, UM, I KIND OF WANTED TO PRINT OUT ALL OF THE THINGS, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE SO DISAPPOINTED WITH THEIR HOMES, UH, AND ISSUES THAT THEY HAD WITH THEM. BUT, UM, I KNEW IT WOULD TAKE WAY TOO MUCH TIME TO GO. WE HAD SOMEONE ADDRESS THAT QUITE EARLIER, SO MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF SUMMARIZE AND OKAY, WELL, I SURE WISH LENARA WOULD HAVE SUMMARIZED LAST NIGHT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THEIR SPIEL THREE TIMES NOW AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GO AN HOUR OVER WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO WHERE YOU CAN GO AS LONG AS YOU'D LIKE THAT. JUST LIKE I SAID. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ABOUT THAT. UM, WELL, LISTEN, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT REAL QUICK MY PARENTS, MY GRANDPARENTS, THEY BROUGHT US UP ON THE PILLARS OF, UH, CHARACTER INTEGRITY, FAITH, UM, TRUTH. AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPER AT ALL, WITH ALL THE FRAUDULENT, UH, FORGERY AND ALL OF THAT. SO, UM, LAST THING I WILL SAY HERE IS MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD READ A BOOK CALLED BILLION DOLLAR LIES. JUST LOOK IT UP. THAT'LL TELL YOU ABOUT LENORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TAKING YOUR TIME TO VOTE IT DOWN. THANK YOU. HI, DEAR MAYOR BEAMISH AND COUNCIL MEMBER. MY NAME IS BIANCA. THE TOY WHO LIVE IN 2131 WEST SNI THE STREET IN EARLY 1977 DAYS. SOUTH KOREAN PRESIDENT DECIDES TO KEEP A GREEN AREA OF MAJOR CITY IN KOREA. SO GOVERNMENT THROWS SOME LINE IN, IN AND OUTSIDE OF CITIES AND THEY NAMED IT GREEN BELT, LIKE AN OPEN SPACE. OF COURSE THERE WAS A COMPLAINT BY DEVELOPER, FULL ONE SPEEDINESS AND MONEY, BUT PORTION OF MOUNTAIN AND FIELD WORK CAP UNTIL TODAY. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED AFTER 50 YEARS NOW, GREEN PORTION BECAME LONG OF CITY PARADISE OF CITIZEN FOOD. ONCE PEACE PEOPLE ARE NOW LIVING IN THOSE CITY OR THE MEYER AND RESPECTED PRESIDENT CITY OF LA HABRA HAS ONLY ONE GOLF COURSE. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST GREEN PART OF CITY. WE NEED TO KEEP IT GREEN. ONCE WE BUILT SOMETHING THERE THERE'S NO WAY COME BACK TO GREEN. DON'T BE FOOLED BY DEVELOPER WHO WANTS BUSINESS AND MONEY. THEY MAKE MONEY AND THEY GO AWAY ONLY LIVING BG STREET. WE PEOPLE LIVING IN LA HABRA. WE [03:25:01] ADMIRE CITY MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR KEPT GREEN FOR CITIZEN IN RECENT SIGNATURE GATHERED BY LEHNER MY HEART. THE MANY HOUSE WAS SIGNED BY SOMEBODY NAMED THEY DON'T KNOW THEM. LANA HAS SHOWN. THEY WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN. EVEN IF IT MEANS LYING. IF CITI LIKES THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DO BUSINESS WITH A MORE HONEST COMPANY. AND I BELIEVE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS THROUGH LOVING TO CITY OF LAVERA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LISTENING. THANK YOU. THIS IS K U N. DMAR PUNISHED AND A CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I LIVE IN 1981, SOUTH HAGAN STREET, AND I'M AGAINST TO THE RANCHER. LAHABRA PLANT 10 YEARS AGO. I BOUGHT MY HOUSE FROM LUNA THAT TIME BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSES. AND NOW THE SAME DO NOT COMPANIES TRYING TO TAKE AWAY OUR PRIVILEGES AS A COAL COMMUNITY AND THE BIGGEST OPEN SPACE OVER LAHABRA LISTEN, THREE ON THERE. A STATEMENT OF A SUPPORT LETTER SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER TO THE LAHABRA CITY COUNSELOR. ON SEPTEMBER NINE, I FOUND OUT THREE DIFFERENT PAPERS USING MY ADDRESSES TO HAVE A LUNCH OR NOT HAVE A PLAN SIGNATURES. I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. THERE WAS FALSE SIGNATURES. MY PONY IS ALMOST A DEBT. SO WE BELIEVE, YES, WE BELIEVE THIS IS, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT LA HABRA CITY COUNSELOR ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLES AT OARS. THEY ARE USING MY ADDRESS. FRAUDULENTLY. I CAN TRUST HER AND I'M OUTRAGED. CAN'T BE TRUSTED, PLEASED, PRETTY DARK. OUR PEAK IS TO OPEN SPACE FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. I DID NOT GET YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT IS YOUR NAME? YOUR NAME? I DIDN'T GET IT. WHAT IS IT? HEY, YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. HI, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CAROL BEV. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF A HARBOR BRUH FOR 60 YEARS. WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE BRAND NEW. IT IS UPON THE HILL, UM, FROM BEACH BOULEVARD. UM, I CAME IN TONIGHT. I WAS NOT HERE LAST NIGHT, SO I'VE HEARD EVERYBODY'S SPEAKING TONIGHT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE RUFFLES MY FEATHERS. UM, THE FIRST THING WOULD BE FOR OUR SAFETY. UM, I WAS HERE WHEN THERE WERE NO HOUSES ON THAT HILL. THERE WERE NO HOUSES. THERE WAS COYOTES, THERE WERE OIL, DWELLINGS DRILLS, PEOPLE WORK THERE. AND I THINK IN, IN, IN COMMON SENSE THAT WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE ON OIL, UM, WOULD THEY NOT KNOW THE DANGERS OF IT? I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HILL WHEN THEY START PLOWING UP THAT DIRT, NOT JUST THE DUST, BUT UM, I'M TALKING THE, THE FUMES IN THE AIR THAT ARE GONNA COME OVER TO [03:30:01] MY SIDE OF THE HILL AND WE'RE ONLY A HALF A MILE. OKAY. MY PETITION FOR YOU NOT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY, FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE NOT VERY LEGIT. IF THEY'RE FORGING PEOPLE'S SIGNATURES AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHY YOU WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. IT'S HOW COULD YOU DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEBODY? BECAUSE THAT WOULD TRULY SHOW YOUR COLORS. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU FOLKS ARE. I KNOW YOU REPRESENT THE CITY AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE CITY. ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO YOU WITH THEIR PETITION AND THEIR PLEASE, YOU KNOW, I HOPE, I HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT ALL WASTING OUR TIME. AND I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY, TRULY BORED OR JUST EXHAUSTED OF HEARING OUR POLICE TO YOU TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY. THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP HERE. MY DAUGHTER WAS RAISED HER. I LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE I WAS RAISED IN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WANT ON THAT HILL, BUT I HOPE IT'S NOT CEMENT. I HOPE WE DON'T TURN INTO IRVINE CITY AND I'VE EVEN BEEN DOWN THERE AND THEY HAVE WETLANDS AND THINGS FOR THEIR ANIMALS. BUT I TELL YA, I HATE TO SEE MUCH CITY. YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY, THE HEALTH ISSUES IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT FOR A WHILE. WE'RE GOING TO BREATHE IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET SICK FOR AWHILE. AND YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS HAVE A CONSCIOUS, UM, I PRAY, I TRULY PRAY THAT THAT HELP WILL STAY GREEN FOR THIS CITY TO ENJOY WHETHER THEY STEP ON IT OR NOT. IT'S GREEN, IT'S NATURAL. AND IT'S FROM THE LORD. AND THIS SI MEANT THAT HUMANS LIKE TO THROW ALL OVER THE EMPTY DIRT, LIKE MY OLD HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. DO YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE THAT HAD NO IDEA. IT WAS A SCHOOL PEOPLE MOVE HERE. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE MOVING INTO BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO HISTORY HERE, THERE. THEY JUST WANT, THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE A NICE ENVIRONMENT. BUT WITH WHAT, WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD ENVIRONMENT FOR ANYBODY IN THIS GENERAL AREA, BECAUSE THOSE FUMES ARE GOING TO FOLLOW. I WON'T TAKE UP MUCH OF YOUR TIME AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD DO BUSINESS WITH THE COMPANY THAT IS FORGING PEOPLE'S SIGNATURE FOR THEIR GAIN AND OUR LOSS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I HAVE MORE ON THIS LIST, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE. CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL EXHAUSTED AND WE JUST WANT IT TO HAVE AN END. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR LIST WITH THE CLERK, THAT WAY WE CAN PUT IT IN THE RECORD, IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. OKAY, BRIANNA, WE'RE FIVE MINUTES TO 10 30. COULD YOU CHECK ONCE MARCY? HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE AND HOW LONG EACH PERSON THINKS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE? I'M SORRY, WHAT? [03:35:15] SORRY. MY MIC WAS OFF. DID EVERYBODY HEAR WHAT I JUST SAID? YES. AFTER THIS SPEAKER, TAKE A QUICK RECESS. COME BACK, FINISH THE SIX SPEAKERS THAT ARE BEFORE US. OKAY. HELLO. HI. UH, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I WON'T TAKE TOO LONG. MY NAME'S CAROL HANSEN. I I'M A CITIZEN AND ALSO, UH, UH, BELONG TO THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CITY OF LA HOMBRE FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS. AND, UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, A JOYFUL PLACE TO LIVE AS I, UM, HAVE BEEN IN ORANGE COUNTY SINCE 1978. BEFORE THAT I GREW UP IN LA, WENT TO, UH, ALL THE SCHOOLS THERE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND UH, THEN ON LAC DC AND GOT MARRIED AND ENDED UP EVENTUALLY MOVING TO ORANGE COUNTY. UM, I GUESS I GOT A LOT OF FLACK FROM MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY ABOUT MOVING TO ORANGE COUNTY BECAUSE I DECIDED TO MOVE BEHIND THE ORANGE CURTAIN, SO TO SPEAK, LIKE THEY SAY IN LA ANYWAY, THERE WERE MANY, MANY DAYS WHEN WE COULDN'T PLAY OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE SMOG BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE POLLUTION IN THE AIR AND LA CITY. UH, SO, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP LEARNING ABOUT R WONDERFUL EARTH AND HOW WE HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IT SO WELL. AND GROWING UP IN LA, WE WERE RAISED AROUND A LOT OF OLD, OLD, UH, OIL WELLS. THERE WAS ONE RIGHT ON THE, ON THE CORNER OF WHERE I GREW UP, UH, IN THE CRENSHAW AREA. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT, OUR AIR OR WHAT IT WAS DOING TO US. UH, BUT AS WE'VE LEARNED WHAT ALL THE POLLUTANTS IN THE AIR HAVE BEEN DOING TO OUR HEALTH. MMM. YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY AND I WORKED AND, AND DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE TOO FAR AND, UH, RETIRED IN 2013. AND I'VE BEEN ENJOYING MY RETIREMENT HERE IN ORANGE COUNTY. AND IN LAHABRA I KNOW WE'RE REAL CLOSE TO COYOTE HILLS AND I'VE GONE ON QUITE A FEW NATURE WALKS BOX WITH THEM, THE ORGANIZATION THAT GIVES US, UH, THAT OPPORTUNITY ON THE WEEKEND. OKAY. AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO THAT I WENT ON VACATION WITH SOME MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY AND I WAS GONE FOR ABOUT ALMOST TWO WEEKS. AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SAME TIME WITH SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS, I LIVE ON AN, ON A, ON A CALL THE SAC IN, IN, UH, RIGHT BEHIND WHERE A APPLEBEE'S IS OR IN MICHAEL'S. AND IT'S A FRIENDLY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ON A LITTLE CULDESAC WITH FOUR OTHER NEIGHBORS. AND THREE OF US WERE GONE ON VACATION AND WE'LL AT THE SAME TIME. AND WHEN WE CAME BACK, WE FOUND THAT THE COYOTES [03:40:01] TOOK OVER OUR BACKYARDS. AND, UH, MY DAUGHTER HAD, ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS HAD COME OVER TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS ALL RIGHT. AND SHE PICKED IN THE BACKYARD AND WAS MET WITH TWO EYES FACING HER. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A, UH, A, UH, MOUNTAIN LION, BUT WE FOUND OUT IT WAS A, UH, A BIG MAMA COYOTE AND OUR FAMILY. AND I HAVE JUST PUT DOWN, UH, THE GARDENER JUST PUT DOWN NEW MULCH. SO I HAD THE INFERENCE OF WHAT WAS HANGING OUT IN OUR BACKYARD AND, AND OUR NEIGHBOR ALSO HAD THE SAME THING HAPPENED. AND SO THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING IS, IS WHEN THE, IF THIS MEASURE PASSES WILL, LEANORA PROBABLY GET THEIR WAY ANYWAY. UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S GOING TO BE OVERRUN BY MORE COYOTES EVERY TIME THERE'S SOME BIG BUILDING. UH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE, UH, PEOPLE, THESE ANIMALS THAT HAVE LIVED HERE FOR A LOT LONGER THAN WE HAVE, UH, ARE UPROOTED. SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE ANIMALS COMING IN AND EATING OUR CATS AND LITTLE DOGS. OH, YOU'RE AGAINST THE PROJECT. BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW I WAS HERE TILL PRETTY LATE LAST NIGHT. AND I LEFT HERE FEELING THREATENED JUST BY THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS GOING ON WITH, WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT LIKE I WAS BEING REPRIMANDED BY FEELING AND, AND DOING WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS VOLUNTEERING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY. UH, I THINK ALL OF US ARE, ARE, ARE MUCH BETTER OFF WHEN WE KNOW THE REAL STORY OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AROUND US. AND IT'S REALLY THE TIME TIMING IS TO BE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CARE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I FEEL FOR THE FAMILY, THE QUAN FAMILY, BUT THERE ARE LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE, UH, DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY. THAT WAS THAT'S THE GOLF COURSE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GOLF COURSE, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF THE THINGS THAT IT COULD BE THAT ARE, WOULD EVEN MAKE THIS COMMUNITY EVEN BETTER. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BUNCH OF HOMES AND JUST ASK THE MAYOR OF IRVINE, WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT NAR AND WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THEY BUY THE LAND AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. UM, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE, I MEAN, WHERE THE MONEY IS AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE. I MEAN, JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY LIKE THEY SAY, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. THERE'S ALL A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S WORLD THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THIS COMMUNITY, NOT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO LIVE. THERE'S ALREADY MY, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, HERTZ ARE ALREADY LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE TO LIVE AND THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS. UH, THEY HELPED ME TAKE OUT MY TRASH CAUSE THEY KNOW I'M GETTING A LITTLE OLDER AND SOMETIMES I DON'T COME OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR A FEW DAYS IN A ROW. CAUSE MY BACK IS IN SO BAD SHAPE. IT IS A GREAT COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TOOK TO COME DOWN HERE AND TELL US, OKAY, THANK YOU, YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE AND WE ARE, OH, HOPE YOU [03:45:01] THINK ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU DO YOUR VOTE, WE WILL. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY WANT A BREAK OR SHOULD WE KEEP GOING? KEEP GOING. YUP. YUP. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH. I KNOW THAT WHEN I'M WALKING, WHY AM I BUYING WALKING? AND I REALLY WONDER IS IT, UH, ME EXPOSING MYSELF TO THE, UH, EXHAUST AND THESE CARS ARE OLD AND NEW AND THEY ARE, AND THEY ARE LOUD. AND I'M THINKING, IS THIS A MUFFLER? NOW THE ISSUE IS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME BREATHING. MY LANDLADY. SHE IS ENJOYING SUCCESS WITH HER DIALYSIS. AND SHE GOES TO, FROM CARMELLA TO TAMARACK, TO DAVITA FOR HER DIALYSIS. AND SOMETIMES SHE STRUGGLES TO GET THERE ON TIME BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. AND IT REALLY IS AN ISSUE FOR ME FOR HER HEALTH, BECAUSE SHE, TO ME IS MY PRINCESS. SHE'S MY JUUL. AND IF I LOSE HER, I LOSE MY PLACE TO LIVE. AND THIS IS, UM, AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE AIR SHE STRUGGLES TO BREATHE, BUT HER, UH, AIR CONDITIONING WORKS. EVERYTHING FOR HER IS FINE, BUT I'M STILL EXPOSED OUT THERE TO THE EXHAUST. AND I DO. I STRUGGLED TO BREATHE. I CAN HEAR HIM FINE. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? AND THAT'S FINE. I'M HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR THE HUMAN COMPONENT THAT I'M, UH, REALLY STRUGGLING TO GET TO THE PLACES WHERE I SHOP AND WHERE I EAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. AND I JUST SPEAK ON BEHALF OF JAN BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT AND YOUR SMILES. I'LL TALK TO YOU GUYS LATER. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN ASKED IF WE CAN RESUME TOMORROW. UH, INSTEAD OF MAYBE WE COULD ADJUST THE SPEAKER. YEAH, WE ARE HERE. YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN. UH, MY NAME IS PETER CRUZ. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. A LITTLE BETTER. THANKS. TRY TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT LOUDER. UH, IT'S BEEN ASKED, UH, BY THE REST OF THE LINE TO SEE IF THEY CAN RESUME TOMORROW. HOW WELL WE'RE GOING TO GO AND TELL THERE WERE DONE. HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE? I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE FIVE. WHERE'S BRIANNA LIKE HAVING BRIANNA CHECK AND SEE HOW LONG THEY THINK THEY'LL BE. CAUSE I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET IT DONE TONIGHT. [03:50:25] THERE'S THREE IN LINE. AND WHAT, UH, NO, I THINK WE CAN KEEP GOING. TELL THESE THEN THAT WILL BE FINE, BUT THAT'S THROUGH GENERALIST. OKAY. WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ON THAT, PETER. SO GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU TO THE LOBBER CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR WORKING ON, ON THIS, THIS, UH, PROJECT. UM, UH, I WANTED TO, FOR THE ISSUE OF JERMAINE NEWNESS, I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS PRIOR. UH, THERE'S AN ISSUE OF ACCESSIBILITY FOR THESE, UH, EVENTS. AND SO THE CHALLENGE SO FAR THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN, UM, HAVING LONG TIME LAHABRA INS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ZOOM OR, UH, OR THROUGH TELECONFERENCING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S FRUSTRATING IN THE OLDER CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITY. UH, THE SECOND ISSUE I WOULD SAY IS, UM, FOR HARD OF HEARING AND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BILINGUAL OR HAVE A SPEAK ONLY SPANISH OR KOREAN, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE FOR, FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AS WELL. UM, AND THE SECOND ISSUE THAT'S, UH, THAT'S RELATED TO THIS, UM, IS THE ISSUE OF SIGNATURE FRAUD. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT, UH, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP. AND I THINK THAT IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PLACED ON, UH, AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, THAT, THAT DOES DISMISS A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PUT UP IN TERMS OF THE SUPPORT THAT THE CITY OR THAT A DEVELOPER HAS IN TERMS OF ITS SUPPORTERS. UM, BUT I I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 1801, UH, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR AS A FOR OVER 20 YEARS. THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, HAS CONTINUED TO RESOLVE, I NEVER ENDING FISCAL CRISIS BY PROPOSING PROJECT SITES THAT SOLVE SHORT TERM BUDGET IMBALANCES WITHOUT REACHING OUT TO LONGTERM RESIDENTS ABOUT THESE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS, THE RESULT HAS LED TO A CONSTITUENT GROUP SAVE LAHABRA A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY CONCERN LAHABRA AND SAID RESIDENTS TO CREATE AN ORGANIZED CAMPAIGN, TO CHALLENGE THE PREEXISTING POSITION OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SUPPORT THE RANCHO LA HABRA DEVELOPMENT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THE CITIES SITTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIVE WITHIN ANY DISTANCE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A DIRECT CHALLENGE TO THE SYSTEMIC NEED A DISTRICT ELECTIONS OF FOUR LAHABRA INSTEAD OF AT LARGE ELECTIONS THAT HAS MADE COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIFFERENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE UPSETTING DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY FOR DECADES, RANCHO LA HABRA, A LARGE CORPORATE DEVELOPER HAS DOCUMENTED SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT FOR THEIR PROJECT AND THEIR PARENT COMPANY. ELON ARE INCLUDING MEMBERS OF THE LA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AGAIN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE HARBOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WILL LIVE WITHIN THE ZONE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT, SOME SIGNATORIES IN OPPOSITION TO SAVE LITTLE HOVER SPONSORED CITY [03:55:01] MEASURE THAT INVOLVES RENTAL LAHABRA MEASURE X STATE THAT BLOCKING THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT MAY INVITE QUOTE, UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT, UNHEALTHY DEVELOPMENT, AND UNDERMINE LOCAL CONTROL. IT'S MAIN SIGNATORY. JOHN LEWIS DOES NOT LIVE HERE ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A DIRECT CHALLENGE TO THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEM OF LAHABRA FACES IN RESPONSE TO ADEQUATELY IN RESPONDING ADEQUATELY TO HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE IN THEIR OWN CITY. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT RESPONDED FOR MANY LAHABRA HOBBINS WHO HEAR AND READ ABOUT THOSE BOARD MEMBERS IN THE LA HARBOR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHO CO WHO CO-WROTE IN SUPPORT OF THE RANCHO LA HARBOR DEVELOPMENT AS A WAY TO PROHIBIT OTHER UNDESIRABLE DEVELOPMENT ECHOES A SEGREGATION ZONING SYSTEM THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS SUPPORTING WHEN DISCUSSING I'D REALLY LIKE YOU TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT. WE DON'T NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL ISSUES. AND THE LONG LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS SAID, JUST AS LONG AS YOU GET THERE, WHEN DISCUSSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE IS A RECIPIENT OF THESE HUD PROGRAMS AND NOT ALL THE HOPKINS WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE LENARA BUILT HOMES AND TOWNHOMES AND RANCHO LAHABRA. AS A CARING COMMUNITY, LAHABRA ANS HAS RECOGNIZED THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS IN DISTRESS DURING THE CURRENT HOUSING CRISIS THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE NEW HOMES AND THAT NO FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PIPELINE ADDRESS, THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE, TARGETING MILLENNIALS AND YOUNGER RESIDENTS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO LIVE AND WORK HERE AS LA HAVA IS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN SQUARE MILES. THE YEAR THE IRREVERSIBILITY OF OPEN SPACE IS THE MOST SALIENT ISSUE WITNESSING DECADES OF LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN THE CITY. THE SPRAWL IS NOT A GOOD SOLUTION FOR GENERATING GENERAL FUND REVENUE FULFILLING THE MAINTENANCE BACKLOG LAHABRA IS EXPERIENCING AND COMPLETING THE GENERAL PLAN PARKS INITIATIVE. THERE ARE DISTRESSED AREAS OF THE CITY THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED AND REDESIGNED WITHOUT ELIMINATING OPEN SPACES. THE EXISTING OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD CHANGE IN THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD REMAIN AND BE CONVERTED INTO A CONSERVATION AREA DESIGNED THAT WOULD FULFILL THE GENERAL PLANS REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKS. WE HAVE OVER 20 PARKS AND ADDING A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE, HIGHLY USABLE PARK, WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN A HISTORY OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEGREGATION AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE FUTURE GENERATIONAL. HOBBINS A BETTER RETURN OF INVESTMENT THAN 450 HOUSING UNITS THAT WOULD TEMPORARILY FULFILL OUR ARENAS. A REQUIREMENT'S OR HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. A BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE TO PROMOTE HIGHER DENSITY, ZONING, AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN MAJOR BOULEVARDS IN THE CITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE A BALANCE THAT RESPONDS TO THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS REQUIREMENTS. IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, THESE DEVELOPMENTS CAN BE TRANSIT ORIENTED AND PROVIDE A STEADY ECONOMIC BASE FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. IT WOULD REDUCE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. LIKE I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT HERE, BUT THIS IS ABOUT STAY ON TRACK THE ISSUES CONCERNING PROPERTY RIGHTS VERSUS THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT. IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS IN, IN THIS PROJECT, UH, THE OBSERVATIONS FROM VARIOUS CONSTITUENTS HAS, IS OVERWHELMINGLY STATED THAT THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. UM, THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS ARE ALSO A PROBLEM FOR MANY, MANY RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, FOR ANY TEACHER PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD BRING STAKEHOLDERS TO SAVE THE CITY FROM FUTURE LITIGATION, ENHANCE, ENHANCE A PROJECT PROPOSAL THAT PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH. THANK YOU. [04:00:47] HELLO. UM, MY NAME IS DIANA ELVA. THANK YOU. SORRY STUFF. HI, MY NAME IS DON. SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. UH, I'M DIANA ALBERT, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF LAHABRA. UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION BEFORE I START INTO MY LITTLE STUFF, LIKE YOUR NAME, DIANA ALPHA. DIANE. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I WAS HERE YESTERDAY FOR FOUR HOURS AND TODAY, NOW FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. IS THERE A REASON YOU'RE HOLDING US HERE THIS LONG TO SPEAK? IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'RE HOLDING THAT RIGHT? IT'S FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE TOMORROW AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THAT. I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT WE HAD ORIGINALLY GET ST CLARITY AND BECAUSE HE HAD WAITED SO LONG, RIGHT. BUT I'M ASKING WHY DID WE GET DISMISSED YESTERDAY AT 10 30 TO COME BACK AGAIN TODAY? AND WHY AREN'T YOU DISMISSING US? I HAVE TO GO TO WORK TOMORROW. SO THIS IS REALLY A VAPE INCONVENIENCING US. OKAY. WELL SAY YOUR VP. WELL, I GUESS I SAID PART OF MY PIECE RIGHT NOW, BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, I'M PRIVILEGED TO BE A LA HOPPER RESIDENT. I'M HERE TO POSE THE PROJECT CONTRARY TO UNR AND THEIR SUPPORTERS. THOSE OF US WHO OPPOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT PRIVILEGED OR WE'RE ACTUAL LONGTERM RESIDENTS AND SHORT TERM RESIDENTS OF LAHABRA WHO ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF LAW, BRUH, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE GOLF COURSE OWNER OWNER'S FLIGHT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AS A PROPERTY OWNER, SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO REZONE FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL BENEFIT, THAT THE DETRIMENT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THE HUB OF RESIDENCE. I WON'T REPEAT WHAT MANY OF MY FELLOW LAHABRA RESIDENTS HAS ALREADY SAID, BUT ONLY EMPHASIZE THE OPEN SPACE, EXCUSE ME, THAT WE NEED THE OPEN SPACE AND NOT THE 400 PLUS NEW HOMES. OPERA PROPOSED PARK SPACE IS A POOR SUBSTITUTE FOR THE CURRENT OPEN SPACE. I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THIS. I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER ALL THE TIME I'M EFFORT. THE FELLOW, YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS HAVE PUT INTO THEM AND YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC OPINION. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LONG. AND I'M SORRY YOU HAD , [04:05:48] WE'LL TAKE A RECESS FOR IT. OKAY. WE'RE BACK IN SESSION AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TYLER LEES AND I LIVE IN ABRA. AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU, I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE HERE, CAUSE YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THE KORAN FAMILY. AND I HAVE A FRIEND WHO I WENT TO USC WITH AND HE WAS MY ROOMMATE IN COLLEGE. HIS NAME IS EUGENE CLARK AND HE AND HIS FAMILY, UH, THE SILICON VALLEY AREA. AND SO I'M OUT IN SAN BERNARDINO. AND AT THE TIME HE CAME TO BID ON WESTRIDGE GOLF COURSE WHEN IT WAS SOLD. AND HE TOLD ME WE HAD LUNCH AND HE TOLD ME THAT THAT GOLF COURSE WENT FOR WAY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT ANY GOLF COURSE WAS GOING FOR AT THE TIME. SO HE SAID AT THE TIME, WHEN W WHEN WE HAD DINNER, THAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK TO GIVE YOU THAT, RELAY THAT STORY, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE PERSPECTIVE AS TO THIS POOR QUAN FAMILY THAT BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, KNOWING THAT THAT EVENTUALLY THEY WERE GOING TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY. SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WAS BROUGHT HERE TO TELL YOU, SIR, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, SO WHY I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I'M GOING TO OKAY. ACTUALLY A HANDHELD GREEN HERE, RIGHT? OKAY. YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK HERE. HOW'S THIS THAT ONE'S WORKING. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS A EQUIP EQUIPMENT CAN'T LAST AS LONG AS US. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TWO MORE SPEAKERS. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TONIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO BE CONTINUING THIS MEETING UNTIL TOMORROW. THE TWO SPEAKERS WILL BE THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS, UH, FOR THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO SPEAK. AT THE TIME THEY FINISHED TOMORROW, WE WILL CLOSE, OFFICIALLY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AT WHICH TIME, THEN WE WILL GO TO THE APPLICANT WHO WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL. AND THEN, WELL, THEN THE ACTUALLY IS WHEN THE CLOSE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT POINT OFFICIALLY THE A AT THAT TIME WE WILL GO INTO COUNCIL COMMENTS, DELIBERATIONS, AND THERE WILL BE A DECISION MADE TOMORROW NIGHT. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT THOUGHT YOU MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THE MEETING WAS EXTENDED, WE WILL WELCOME WRITTEN COMMENTS TOMORROW. YOU CAN DROP THOSE OFF AT CITY HALL AND WE WILL TAKE MORE, UH, COMMENTS THAT WAY. OTHER THAN THAT, UH, AS I SAID, THAT'S HOW WE'LL PROCEED AT THIS POINT. SO WE'LL HAVE TWO SPEAKERS TOMORROW. IN SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE COMMENTS RELATED TO THE PROJECT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER AT THAT [04:10:01] TIME. AND THE HEARING WILL BE CLOSED. AND THEN A STAFF LET'S SEE, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY ASK THE STAFF HAS ANYTHING, AND THEN WE'LL CALL IT FOR QUESTIONS OR JUST SESSION BY THE COUNCIL. AND WE WILL RENDER A DECISION FOR OR AGAINST. SO HAVING SAID THAT I WOULD MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO TOMORROW AT SIX 30. NO, THAT THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE DO DO. YEP. AGREED. DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT? YEAH, LET'S VOTE ALL OF THEM FAVOR. I WAS THERE A SECOND ROW SECOND, AND WE ALL SAY I, RIGHT. OKAY. THEN WE ARE JARON UNTIL SIX 30 TOMORROW. AND THE COUNCIL, JAMES. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.