Nov 02, 2020 City Council

THEN AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS.

WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW COUNCIL MEMBER MEDRANO, COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, MAYOR PRO TEM ESPANOZA.

YEAH, MAYOR BEAMISH.

YEAH.

ARE THERE ANY CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS, MR. MAYOR? THANK YOU.

[1. PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 8-14, 2020, AS "NATIONAL NURSE PRACTITIONER WEEK" IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA]

THE FIRST ONE IS TO PROCLAIM NOVEMBER EIGHT THROUGH 14, 2020 IS NATIONAL NURSE PRACTITIONER WEEK IN THE CITY OF ALHAMBRA.

AND WE HAVE A PERSON THAT PICK IT UP THERE.

SHE IS.

BEFORE YOU START, I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION AND I JUST WANTED TO READ PARTS OF IT.

IT STARTS OUT AS WHEREAS NURSE PRACTITIONERS SERVE AS TRUSTED FRONTLINE PROVIDERS OF HEALTH CARE FOR PATIENTS IN CALIFORNIA.

AND IT GOES INTO A LOT OF, WHEREAS IS, BUT DOWN AT THE BELOW, IT SAYS NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF HARBOR IN RECOGNITION OF THE COUNTLESS CONTRIBUTIONS THAT NURSE PRACTITIONERS HAVE MADE OVER THE PAST HALF CENTURY AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE TO THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF CITIZENS IN OUR STATE HEREBY PROCLAIMS, NOVEMBER 8TH THROUGH 14, 20, 20 AS NURSE PRACTITIONER WEEK IN THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE.

AND I WOULD JUST ADD, I PROBABLY SEE A NURSE PRACTITIONER MORE OFTEN THAN I SEE MY REGULAR DOCTOR.

SO THERE YOU GO.

LIKE THE NEXT SOME COMMENTS.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR INVITING ME HERE.

IT'S AN HONOR.

UH, MY NAME IS ANDREA VASQUEZ.

I'M A RESIDENT OF LAHABRA AND I'VE BEEN IN NURSING FOR 20 YEARS NOW.

I CURRENTLY PRACTICE IN LA AND IT'S REALLY NICE JUST DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME THAT WE'RE ALL FACING, UM, FIRST RESPONDERS AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

AND, UM, THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT TIME THAT WE'VE ALL ENDEAVORED AND JUST THE STRESS THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY DAY.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU CAN REALLY IMAGINE AND TO BE RECOGNIZED IS I'M TRULY GRATEFUL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

BE SAFE PLEASE.

AND DID WE JUST HAVE ONE OUT THERE? IS THERE JUST THE ONE? OKAY.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

AND THE NEXT ONE IS WE ARE HERE TO PROCLAIM NOVEMBER TWO THROUGH NINE 2020 AS LAW ENFORCEMENT RECORDS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL WEEK IN THE CITY OF , WHICH PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

[2. PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 2-9, 2020, AS "LAW ENFORCEMENT RECORDS AND SUPPORT PERSONNEL WEEK" IN THE CITY OF LA HABRA]

DOES ANYBODY HERE TO TAKE THE PROCLAMATION, MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS? OH, MAYBE THE CHIEF WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS ENTERING STOLEN VEHICLE INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE IT GETS INTO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT NETWORK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, RECORD'S WEEK IS, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT.

EVERY WEEK.

OUR RECORDS PERSONNEL DO ARE THE, SOME OF THE UNSUNG HEROES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROCESSING THE PAPERWORK, UH, DEALING WITH THE FRONT COUNTER, PROVIDING GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY GO BEHIND, BEHIND THE SCENES A LOT OF TIME, BUT THEIR, UH, THEIR WORK IS VERY VALUABLE AND NEEDED.

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IT'S PROVIDING REPORTS TO PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM AND PROVIDING OTHER ASSISTANCE AT THE COUNTER.

THEY DO A GREAT WORK FOR US DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS WHEN ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER'S CARD BEFORE LEAVING THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

[ PUBLIC COMMENTS: When addressing the City Council, please complete a Speaker’s Card before leaving the Council Chamber. This is the time for the public to address any item of interest to the public that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City NOT appearing on this Agenda. Speakers must limit their comments to three (3) minutes each. The total time period for public comment is 30 minutes. Per Government Code Section 54954.3(a), the City Council cannot take action or express a consensus of approval or disapproval on any public comments regarding matters which do not appear on the printed agenda. ]

THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM OF INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC THAT IS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE CITY, NOT APPEARING ON THIS AGENDA.

SPEAKERS MUST LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

EACH THE TOTAL TIME PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS 30 MINUTES PER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE, FOUR NINE FIVE 4.38.

THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ACTION OR EXPRESS CONSENSUS OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL ON ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING MATTERS, WHICH DO NOT APPEAR ON THE PRINTED AGENDA.

AND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

HELLO, MY NAME IS TIM NELLIE.

I LIVE IN WHITTIER, CALIFORNIA.

UM, I'M A SPEAR TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE ON WHITTIER BOULEVARD.

UH WE'RE UH, O'REILLY AUTO PARTS IS WHERE THE WHITTIER BOULEVARD GOING EAST, GOING TO HASI AND, UH, UH, SOUTHWEST, UH, ALL DUG UP AND YOU CAN'T GET INTO THE PARKING LOT.

I WANNA KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE ISSUED.

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHEN WHAT'S GOING TO BE FIXED WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE, WHEN IT WILL BE COMPLETED.

WHEN'S IT GOING TO BE COMPLETED? I HAVE A MAN HERE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE IN JANUARY.

WOW.

SO I HAVE TO GET THROUGH CHRISTMAS.

ONE OF THEM, I SPOKE WITH SOME ENGINEER HERE, THE OTHER ARAB, LIKE A WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY LAST WEEK.

AND HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE AND O'REILLY'S.

CAUSE I GOT THE OWNER WAS, WAS SAYING THAT THEY WERE LOSING LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY BECAUSE THEY, BECAUSE THE CUSTOMER CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THIS PLACE, THEY HAVE THE PARKING PARKING TURNINGS ALL BLOCKED OFF BECAUSE THE GUYS WHO WORKED ON THE STREET.

YEAH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF O'REILLY'S.

I THINK YOU CAN GET IN THROUGH AWFUL IDAHO, BUT YEAH.

WELL WE'RE WORKING AS QUICK.

I DON'T, I DON'T LIVE DOWN HERE.

SO I'M ASKING, RIGHT.

NOT ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAFETY OF USERS OF THE SKATE PARK, INCLUDING ANY INCIDENTS OR INJURIES OCCURRING AT THE SKATE PARK.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE OR IS IT JUST THE ONE SPEAKER? HI, GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME'S MATT GRIPPY.

UM, I'M CALLING ON THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE CITY'S LIABILITY REGARDING WILL HARBOR SKATE PARK.

I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE NEW HELMET RULE THAT IS INTRODUCED UPON THE REOPENING OF THE PARK.

A LOT OF SKATERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE TURNED AWAY FROM THE PARK BECAUSE OF THIS NEW HELMET REQUIREMENT, THE 26 YEARS OLD.

IT SHOULD BE MY ADULT DECISION, WHETHER I WANT TO WEAR A HELMET OR NOT.

I KNOW THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH SKATEBOARDING, THE SKATE PARK GUIDELINES THAT ARE POSTED AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK STATE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT YOU QUOTE SKATE AND UTILIZE THE PARKSIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND QUOTE.

THIS IS LISTED AT EVERY SKATE PARK.

IT MEANS THAT THE SKATERS ASSUMES FULL RESPONSIBILITY.

IN THE CASE OF AN INJURY, THE HELMET REQUIREMENT ON TOP OF THIS, IT'S NOT ONLY CONTRADICTORY, BUT UNNECESSARY.

I STOPPED BY THE SKATE PARK A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO CHECK IT OUT.

AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A GHOST TOWN.

I STOPPED BY LAST NIGHT AND THERE WAS THREE SECURITY GUARDS AND ONLY ONE SKATER.

HOW DOES THIS PAN OUT DURING THE CITY'S BUDGETING PROCESS? THE SECURITY GUARDS TOLD ME THEY HAD SEEN A LOT OF SKATERS COME TO THE PARK.

ONLY THE TURN AWAY WHEN THEY'RE TOLD THEY NEED TO WEAR A HELMET.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE CITY'S ACTIONS.

WELL, I'M ONE OF THE MANY SKATERS WHO WERE GOING TO OTHER SKATE PARKS AND SPENDING MY MONEY IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY RESPECT OUR FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

I ACTUALLY GOT A TICKET FOR NOT WEARING A HELMET AT LA HARBOR SKATE PARK IN 2009, WHEN I WAS 15.

AT THE TIME THE POLICE WERE COMING BY THE PARK QUITE REGULARLY, ISSUING TICKETS FOR NO HELMET.

THIS DIDN'T MAKE US START WEARING HELMETS.

IT JUST MADE US JUMPY AT THE SIDE OF A POLICE CAR, DRIVING ON IDAHO STREET, SOMEONE WOULD YELL FIVE-O AND WE'D ALL RUN OUT OF THE PARK OR STOP RIDING IMMEDIATELY AND SIT DOWN TO LOOK LIKE WE WEREN'T RIDING THIS SORT OF POLICING DID MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

IT MADE US RESENTFUL TOWARDS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR ENFORCING A STUPID RULE.

AND IT WIDENED THE GAP BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SKATERS.

THE ONLY THING THAT BENEFITED WAS THE CITY'S WALLET.

MOST OF THE SKATERS THAT ONCE WROTE AT LAHABRA SKATE PARK, AND NOW I'M GOING TO OTHER SKATE PARKS WHEN THEY'RE NOT PLAYING NANNY WITH THEM, I'VE BEEN A PATRON AT WILL HARBOR SKATE PARK FOR 13 YEARS, BUT I HAVEN'T WRITTEN IT SINCE IT REOPENED BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH YOU REQUIRING AN ADULT, WEAR A HELMET, ALL THOSE WITH THE LAST STATEMENT ON SKATE PARK GUIDELINES, SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK QUOTE, THE CITY OF LA HARBOR ESCAPE, HEART OF THE CITY OF LA HOMBRE DOES

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I'M PROPOSING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE A VOTE ON REMOVING THE HELMET REQUIREMENT AT LA HARBOR SKATE PARK.

THANK YOU, MATT.

DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD? I DID, YES.

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY RESOLVED.

SO WE HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

I CAN HAVE OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR GIVE YOU A CALL, BUT JUST QUICKLY BEFORE YOU GO, HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IS IN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THEY MANDATE THAT AN OPERATOR OF A SKATE PARK SHALL NOT PERMIT A PERSON TO RIDE A SKATEBOARD OR OTHER WHEELED RECREATIONAL DEVICE IN THE PARK, UNLESS THAT PERSON IS WEARING A HELMET, ELBOW, PADS AND KNEE PADS, AS YOU SAY, A LOT OF SKATERS DON'T AND IT KIND OF MANDATES THAT THE LOCAL AGENCY ADOPT THAT ORDINANCE, WHICH WE DID ON A, AT AN ORDINANCE HERE ABOUT ALL PERSONS AND THE SECURITY GUARDS ARE THERE FIRST OFF BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PRINCIPALLY THERE FOR.

BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE SUPERVISING, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE POSTED RULES.

SO OTHER THAN THAT IS WHAT I CAN HAVE.

LIKE I SAID, KELLY, GIVE YOU A CALL AND YOU CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S THE GENESIS OF WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I MAY ASK THAT WE TEMPORARILY TAKE A RECESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO SOUND IN THE ATRIUM.

I RECEIVED SOME TEXT MESSAGES FROM RESIDENTS.

OH, OKAY.

AND YOU DIDN'T GET THAT ISSUE.

WE'RE GETTING LESS DOWN THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

WELL, WE'LL TAKE A RECESS.

THAT'S A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

THANKS.

WE'RE RECESSED.

MAYBE I WON'T NEED IT.

WE'LL SEE.

EVERYBODY'S BACK HERE.

OUR MEETING IS BACK IN SESSION AND WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC SPEAKER HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN WHO WENT BEFORE ME PRETTY MUCH COVERED THE TOPICS I ACTUALLY WANTED TO HIT AS WELL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I DO THINK ADULTS SHOULD HAVE THE CHOICE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO WEAR A HELMET AT THE SKATE PARK.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY STANDARD RISK UPON ONE ONESELF, NOT AFFECTING ANYONE.

UH, YOU DID EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

AND I DO RESPECT THAT, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I'M JUST, I DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH GENERALLY THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE TREATING THE PARKS.

UH, JUST DETERRING PEOPLE FROM GOING AND GETTING EXERCISE.

THERE REALLY AREN'T A LOT OF OUTDOOR AREAS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND BE RECREATIONAL.

AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND IF WE LOOK AT THE COVID DEATHS, IT'S UPWARDS OF 200,000 IN THE U S A W, WHICH IS NOTHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY, OF COURSE, BUT THE OBESITY DEATHS IN THE U S ARE 300,000 PLUS.

AND HOW MANY OF THE COVID DEATHS HAVE CO-MORBIDITIES THAT ARE OBESITY? I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN APPROACHING THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THAT'S OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE'LL GO TO THE

[ CONSENT CALENDAR: All matters on Consent Calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless a Councilmember or member of the audience requests separate action or removal of an item. Removed items will be considered following the Consent Calendar portion of this agenda. Members of the audience will have the opportunity to address City Council on removed items at that time. Speakers must limit their comments to three (3) minutes each.]

CONSENT CALENDAR.

ALL MATTERS ON CONSENT.

CALENDAR ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND IT WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS, SEPARATE ACTION OR REMOVAL OF AN ITEM REMOVED ITEMS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOLLOWING THE CONSENT CALENDAR PORTION OF THIS AGENDA.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON REMOVED ITEMS. AT THAT TIME, SPEAKERS MUST LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

EACH THE CONSENT CALENDAR APPEARS ON PAGES THREE THROUGH FIVE ON THE AUDIENCE AGENDA WITH STAFF LIKED TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS. UH, BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR REGARDING ITEMS SEVEN AND 12, WE'LL BE RECUSING OURSELVES ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. NUMBER SEVEN, BECAUSE IT INVOLVES COUNT DOMESTIC.

I STILL ON THAT.

WELL, BECAUSE IT'S THE PROPERTY JOINING MY PROPERTY.

MR. STEALS, YOUR PRESIDENCY READ RUBS TO THE CITY ON ANY LEGAL MATTERS ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM NUMBER 12.

ALL RIGHT.

THE RECORD WILL NOTE THAT THE MAYOR STAFF HAS NO ITEMS THAT WE WISH TO PULL.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

ANYBODY WANT TO PULL AN ITEM? MR. MAYOR? I WILL ABSTAIN AN ITEM NUMBER 12.

UH, LET'S SEE.

12.

HAS ALSO LEFT AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY PRESENT FOR THESE ITEMS. THAT'S MY MOTION.

THE RECORD WILL NOTE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ IS ABSTAINING THE ITEM 12 MAYOR.

BMES.

I WOULD LIKEWISE A ABSTAIN ON ITEM TWO, UH, 12.

OKAY, SO IT'S 10, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW ALSO ABSTAIN ON ITEM 12.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ABSTAIN OR PULL AN ITEM? NO, I OH, MS. MARILYN, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? NOTING THE OBSESSIONS OF MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ON ITEM NUMBER 12, NOTING THE DIC, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'M SORRY, HERE AT 30.

DICK JONES

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SO THERE WE NEED TO HAVE AUDIENCES.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY? I JUST WANT TO PULL AN ITEM.

WE STILL HAVE NOBODY OVER NEXT DOOR, CORRECT? IF SOMEONE'S WATCHING THAT RIGHT.

NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE AND NOW WE'LL CALL IT REACTION.

GO, GO AGAIN, JEN.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

NOTING A COUNCIL MEMBER BASHAW ALONG WITH MYSELF, UH, ABSTAINING ITEM NUMBER 12, AND OUR ATTORNEY RICHARD D. JONES, UH, HAS SUBSTITUTED ANOTHER ATTORNEY IN THE MEANTIME WHILE THE VOTE IS TAKEN.

IS ABSTAINED THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION TO SECOND.

WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER MADRANO YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ.

MAYOR PRO TEM ESPANOZA.

[1. CONSIDER LETTERS TO THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND CALIFORNIA FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION That the City Council review the attached letters and provide direction to staff.]

WE WILL.

THOSE TWO CONSIDERATION ITEMS. THERE'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND SO CONSIDERATION ITEM ONE, ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE MAY REQUEST TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY CONSIDERATION ITEM PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TAKING A FINAL VOTE ON THE ITEM, THE MAYOR WILL INVITE INTERESTED PERSONS TO COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK AS EACH ITEM IS CALLED.

SPEAKERS MUST LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES EACH, UH, ITEM ONE, CONSIDER LETTERS TO THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN CALIFORNIA, FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES, COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.

UH, YES.

ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL RESPOND.

THE FIRST ITEM IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM, UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. SHAW REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

I'VE ANALYZED THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING IT.

AND I BELIEVE HE HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

HOWEVER, A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS DETERMINED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEREFORE IS HIS DECISION AS TO WHETHER HE WANTS TO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE OR NOT PARTICIPATE THIS EVENING.

SHOULD HE DECLARE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST? HE'S NOT PRECLUDED THEN FROM COMING BACK AND SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN REGARDING THE ITEM, IF HE SO DESIRES WITH RESPECT TO THE REASON FOR THE UNDERLYING REASONS FOR THAT CONFLICT IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OFF, THERE'S AN INDIRECT CONFLICT.

TO THE EXTENT THAT FINANCIALLY THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS, THESE PARTICULAR LETTERS COULD IMPACT HIM ECONOMICALLY BOTH IN TERMS OF FINES, ATTORNEY'S FEES AND OTHER THINGS.

SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL INDIRECT ECONOMIC INFLUENCE IMPACT.

THE SECOND IS THERE'S A CONCEPT IN LAW CALLED COMMON LAW CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, YOU ANALYZE THAT WITH RESPECT TO A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE BATTERY BEFORE THE BODY FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS A SUCH PERSONAL INTEREST AS TO MAKE HIM UNABLE TO OBJECTIVE BILLY AND FAIRLY, UH, ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

AND SO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, IT'S A SITUATION WASN'T NECESSARILY AN ECONOMIC INTEREST, BUT ALSO AS A MATTER OF FAIRNESS TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE PROCESS UNDER COMMON LAW, THE COUNCIL MEMBER COULD DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

I BELIEVE, UH, MR. SHAW IS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS DECISION THIS EVENING.

AND THEREFORE IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT HE DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THANK YOU, TIM RECUSE, MYSELF.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK DURING THE THREE MINUTE, UH, COMMENTS I'M ALLOWED AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN I WAS GOING TO ASK IF TIM NEEDED TO LEAVE THE ROOM WHEN SHE'S DOING SO THANK YOU.

I DIDN'T COME BACK AS HE DOES COME BACK.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES CAUSE HE'LL BE SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN, NOT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

TO, UH, UH, MR. SABU, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO THE BEST EVIDENCE RULE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, BECAUSE THE TAPING QUESTION DOES APPEAR TO BE AN EDITED TAPE.

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DICK OR STAFF? TELL ME THE PROCEDURES.

WE STARTED THE TWO LETTERS.

I PRESENTED YOU TWO LETTERS BASED UPON THE COUNCIL DIRECTION FROM LAST COUNCIL MEETING ONE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF ORANGE COUNTY AND ONE TO THE FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE TAPE THAT WAS, UH, MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC REGARDING COMMENTS BY MR. SHAW.

UM, I WOULD OFFER A COUPLE OF THINGS IN TERMS OF CONTEXT.

THE FIRST OF WISHES IS THAT IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, UH, MY OFFICE DRAFTED IT.

WE DID REVIEW IT WITH MR. SANDRO AND MR. UH, ROB FARRIER REGARDING THE DOCUMENT.

NO COUNCIL MEMBER, NO PUBLIC HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE DRAFTING OF THE DOCUMENT.

UH, NUMBER TWO, WITH RESPECT TO IT, IT'S OFFERED AS A STANDARD TYPE OF FORM DOCUMENT AND IS NOT INTENDED TO TAKE A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH RESPECT TO THE DOCUMENT.

IT'S PURELY A RECOMMENDATION.

THE COUNCIL CAN ACT TO REMOVE ANY LANGUAGE OR MAKE ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS.

THEY STILL WOULD DESIRE WITH RESPECT TO THE DOCUMENT, THE LETTER THAT WILL BE SENT OUT, UNLESS LET ME ALSO INDICATE THAT WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR, THESE TWO PARTICULAR LETTERS WHILE THE COUNCIL COULD ACT THIS EVENING, IT, IF THE COUNCIL DOES OR DOES NOT ACT DOES NOT PRECLUDE A PRIVATE CITIZEN FROM ENGAGING IN THE SAME CORRESPONDENCE TO THE FPPC OR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS HAVE THE SAME LEGAL STANDING AS WITH THE COUNCIL IN RAISING THESE ISSUES.

SO IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A PRIVATE CITIZEN COULD NOT STILL RAISE THOSE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE DOCUMENT AND THE LANGUAGE WE DID INCLUDE THERE.

UH, I'VE EXPRESSED

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AND I KNOW MR. DRANO COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL IN INVESTIGATIONS.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT, NOT LOOKING FOR INFORMATION THAT MAY HAVE BEEN EDITED OR MODIFIED IN SOME FASHION.

AND SO THE GOAL WAS TO HOPEFULLY, UH, BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE ORIGINAL, HAVE THE DA OBTAINED THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT IN ORDER TO BE SURE THAT THE EDITING DIDN'T SOMEWAY MISCONSTRUE, UH, MR. SHAW'S WORDS, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT MR. SHAW'S WORDS, THE ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, HAS IT BEEN EDITED IN SOME FASHION TO MAKE A FALSE IMPRESSION WITH RESPECT TO THAT? THAT'S A, THAT IS A INVESTIGATION PROCESS.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REGARDING ANY CULPABILITY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NOR STAFF MAKES NO DETERMINATION OR OPINION WITH RESPECT TO ANY CRIMINAL CULPABILITY, ANY CULPABILITY REGARDING THE CONDUCT HERE, WE JUST SIMPLY TO PREPARE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS AND AWAIT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED.

DESPITE DIFFERENCES IN POLICY.

THANK YOU DEREK.

SO ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE STAFF SAYS THAT NOW? OKAY, THEN WE'LL INVITE THE PUBLIC TO TESTIFY.

PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD WOULD BE APPRECIATED AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SO LAURIE, KEEP IT FOR ME.

THANKS.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SHANNON SHAW, 800 GLEN HAVEN DRIVE LAHABRA SINCE AT LEAST 2008 KITTENS COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE LA HARBOR CITY COUNCIL HAVE ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG.

THERE HAS BEEN MUTUAL RESPECT AND KINDNESS FOR ONE ANOTHER.

WHY ARE WE, ARE YOU LETTING A MALICIOUS AND DECEPTIVE AUDIO RUIN THAT TREND AND TEAR EACH OTHER APART? THIS AUDIO WAS CREATED BY SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO HARM TIM'S REPUTATION.

TIM'S WORDS WERE RECORDED, TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT AND PRESENTED TO CAST HIM IN A FALSE LIGHT.

WHOEVER MADE THIS AUDIO TOOK TIM'S LAUGH AND EDITED IT TO MAKE IT SOUND EVIL.

HE OR SHE TOOK HIS WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT REMOVED ANY GOOD.

HE SAID AND CREATED AN AUDIO THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT HE OR SHE WANTED TO CREATE, NOT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS AUDIO TRUTH AND ACCURACY DID NOT MATTER.

SO WHY ARE WE DOING SO MUCH ON AN AUDIO RECORDING THAT WAS EDITED AND PIECED TOGETHER TO MAKE TIM LOOK BAD? SOMEONE SAT WITH THIS AUDIO FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WAITING TO RELEASE IT RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION.

IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE DIRTY POLITICS, IT SHOULD.

WHAT REALLY HAS DISAPPOINTED ME IS THE HARASSMENT OVER-EXAGGERATION AND HOW THIS INCIDENT HAS BEEN FURTHER TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

TIM HAS SOUGHT LEGAL ADVICE FROM LAWYERS TO BE HONEST.

SOME OF THEM LAUGHED AT THE FACT THAT THIS BE PRESENTED AS A CRIME AFTER THEY HEARD THE AUDIO.

TIM DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME.

THE CITY ATTORNEY KNOWS IT.

THE STAFF KNOWS IT, AND WE KNOW IT.

HOWEVER, SOMEONE DID COMMIT A CRIME.

THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS AUDIO IN CALIFORNIA, IT IS A CRIME TO RECORD ANYONE WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

TIM IS THE VICTIM OF A CRIME AGENDA.

USING THIS ISSUE IS ONLY DONE TO EMBARRASS HIM.

THERE WAS NO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND GET A SECOND FROM THE COUNCIL TO TAKE SOMETHING TO THE DA.

IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT TO THE DA, YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT YOURSELF.

ALSO PUBLICLY ASKING SOMEONE TO RESIGN OVER AN AUDIO RECORDING, TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT AND PURPOSELY MANIPULATED TO MAKE SOMEONE LOOK BAD IS ABSURD.

NO PERSON SHOULD RESIGN OVER SUCH NONSENSE DOING SO WOULD ONLY BE REWARDING.

CRIMINAL ACTS AND GIVING CREDIBILITY AND UNDESERVING POWER TO A MALICIOUS PERSON WHO CREATED A DECEPTIVE AUDIO.

TIM HAS APOLOGIZED FOR THE COMMENT HE MADE ABOUT HIS COLLEAGUES.

PLEASE ACCEPT HIS APOLOGY AND MOVE ON.

FOR THOSE THAT KNOW TIM, THIS WAS AS MAYOR BEAMISH SAID AN INCIDENT NOT REFLECTIVE OF TIM'S CHARACTER, TO ALL THOSE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO TIM AND ME OFFERING US SUPPORT.

THE COLLEGE WHERE I TEACH HAS A POLICY THAT FORBIDS AUDIO RECORDINGS OF CLASS SESSIONS WITHOUT TEACHER'S PERMISSION AND FOR GOOD REASON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CURRICULUM IN THE CLASS I TEACH WITH LAURIE, START THE TIMER.

FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, I ASK ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVE THAT WE ARE A CARING COMMUNITY BY BEING AN EXAMPLE OF THAT YOURSELF.

AFTER THIS INCIDENT, I HOPE WE CAN ALL LEARN AND FOLLOW THE SIMPLE RULE OF RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.

DESPITE DIFFERENCES IN OPINIONS AND POLICY, WE ALL NEED TO COME TOGETHER, NOT TEAR EACH OTHER APART, ESPECIALLY OVER A DECEPTIVE AUDIO.

I URGE YOU TO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME OR DISCUSSION ON THIS RIDICULOUS AUDIO COUNCILMAN MADRANO.

I HAVE, I ENJOYED OUR CONVERSATIONS AND I HOPE TO CONTINUE THAT WITH YOU, YOU AND TIM HAVE SIMILAR VALUES, AND I HOPE YOU CAN BOTH MOVE PAST THIS.

MAYBE THAT WILL TAKE TIME, BUT I HOPE IT CAN HAPPEN.

PLEASE PROVE THAT OUR LEADERS REPRESENT A CARING COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, SHANNON.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I ASSUME TIM DOES, WOULD YOU WANT GETTING TIM

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WAIT, I'M SORRY.

SORRY, TIM.

START OVER THE COLLEGE WHERE I TEACH HAS A POLICY THAT FORBIDS AUDIO RECORDINGS OF CLASS LESSONS WITHOUT THE TEACHER'S PERMISSION.

AND FOR GOOD REASON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CURRICULUM IN THE CLASS, I TEACH REVIEWS ALL THE MAJOR CONTROVERSIES IN AMERICAN POLITICS THROUGHOUT AMERICAN HISTORY.

AS A RESULT, WE ARE DISCUSSING ABORTION.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, GUN CONTROL, SLAVERY, YOU NAME IT, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE COLLEGE'S GOAL IN GENERAL.

AND MY GOAL AS A TEACHER IS TO FOSTER AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THESE THINGS CAN BE DISCUSSED IN AN OPEN AND CANDID WAY WHERE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW WILL BE HEARD AND RESPECTED.

I ALWAYS ATTEMPT TO HONESTLY PRESENT DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW WITH RESPECT TO THESE EMOTIONALLY CHARGED ISSUES, AND ALWAYS INSIST THAT THE STUDENTS RESPECT EACH OTHER DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS, HAVING SOMEONE IN THE ROOM, SECRETLY RECORDING THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH MALICIOUS INTENT DESTROYS US ENVIRONMENT.

AND AS UNFAIR, NOT ONLY TO ME, BUT TO THE STUDENTS INVOLVED THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A CRIME COMMITTED WITH REGARDS TO THIS ILLEGALLY OBTAINED AND DOCTORATE AUDIO TAPE, BUT IT WAS NOT COMMITTED BY ME RATHER.

IT WAS THE INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE RECORDING, ADDING IT UP IN A WAY TO CAST ME IN A FALSE LIGHT AND POSTING IT ONLINE IN AN ATTEMPT TO TARNISH MY REPUTATION.

CALIFORNIA'S WIRETAPPING LAW IS CLEAR AND THAT IT REQUIRES TWO-PARTY CONSENT.

MEANING ALL PARTIES INVOLVED MUST CONSENT TO THE CONVERSATION BEING RECORDED.

I APOLOGIZED IN PRIVATE AND IN PUBLIC FOR SOME OF THE COMMENTS I MADE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

HOWEVER, I DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME WHEN TALKING TO MY CLASS 20 MONTHS AGO.

AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE CLEAR.

CRIMINALIZING SPEECH IS A VERY HIGH BAR.

NO, WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM THAT I BEFORE AN ELECTION, NOT TO REPORT A CRIME, BUT FOR OBVIOUS POLITICAL REASONS, THE HARASSMENT AND BULLYING I'VE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

HERE'S THE REASON WHY MOST PEOPLE WOULD NEVER WANT TO HOLD AN ELECTED OFFICE.

ANYONE AT ANY TIME CAN REPORT A CRIME TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FPPC MOST CERTAINLY JOSE WHO WORKS AT THE DA'S OFFICE.

HE DOESN'T NEED THE CITY COUNCIL OR CITY STAFF.

HE CAN SIMPLY DO IT HIMSELF AT WORK.

THE PROBLEM WITH DOING IT THAT WAY IS THAT IT WON'T BE ON CHANNEL THREE.

AND THE REAL INTENT HERE IS TO PERFORM A POLITICAL STUNTS.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? NOPE.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL CALL FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION.

UM, MR. MERRELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START, UH, ON, UH, ON THE SECOND LETTER, THE ONE THAT WILL REQUEST THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO, UH, FOR AN INVESTIGATION, UM, I'VE SEEN THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND IN MY EYES, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MATTER FOR US, FOR THE CITY OR AS A CITY COUNCIL, UH, PEOPLE TO, UH, ASK FOR A POTENTIAL CRIMINAL VIOLATION STEMMING FROM THE RECORDING AND THE DISSEMINATION OF THE AUDIO FILE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY HOLDING OR ANY BEARING ON OUR SITUATION.

THAT'S A JURISDICTIONAL ISSUE, WHETHER IT BE ONE OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY, THE SHERIFF, OR THE CITY OF WHITTIER, WHEREVER RIO HONDO COMMUNITY COLLEGE SITS IN AS FAR AS A LEGAL JURISDICTION.

SO I, UH, I VOTE, WELL ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE THEM REMOVE THAT PART OF THE, UH, THE SENTENCING, JUST ASK FOR STEMMING FROM THE CONTENT OF THE AUDIO FILE ITSELF AND LEAVE IT AS IS ALL RIGHT.

THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL.

WELL, OKAY.

JUST A SECOND.

SO I THINK WITH REGARDS TO SENDING A LETTER TO THE DA'S OFFICE, IT DOESN'T MATTER REALLY WHAT STANDING WE HAVE.

IT'S A MATTER OF ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

THE DA WILL DETERMINE IF WE HAVE STANDING CORRECT DELL DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS IN FACT, ANY BASIS TO THE CLAIMS, BUT THEY'LL DO THE INVESTIGATION.

RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE STANDING TO AFFORD THE ABILITY TO SEND THE LETTER IF YOU SOLD.

RIGHT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO IT'S ALL OR NOTHING.

YOU KNOW, ABLE TO BRING, UH, TIM AND JOSE TOGETHER AS A TEAM ON THE COUNCIL, THEY SEEM TO ALWAYS BE BICKERING OR DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM.

UH, GO AHEAD, JIM, GO AHEAD.

NO, YOU'RE DONE.

YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL LONG TIME ROSE AND TOM HAVE, AND IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL LAVA'S HAS NEVER BEEN LIKE THIS.

I'LL TELL YOU THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAD AS MAYOR WAS, UM,

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AND JUST ABOUT PROBABLY A DAY, NEVER PASSED BY THAT.

I WOULD TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER SAYING, TELLING HIM, WHAT CAN I DO TO BRING THESE TWO GUYS TOGETHER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T WANT TO TURN THIS TO HAVE THIS TURNED INTO A WESTMINISTER OR ANOTHER CITY.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER HAVING A MEETING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, DICK JONES, OUR POLICE CHAPLAIN, MICHAEL MIKE, MIKE MURPHY, AND TIM AND JOSE TOGETHER.

AND SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS BEFORE WE GO AND GO TO THIS LEVEL, THIS IS A CARING COMMUNITY.

AND MAYBE WE DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVEN IF THE WORST PART, WHEN, UH, STEVE ANDERSON AND I HAD SOME BATTLES, WE, WE, WE'D NEVER GOT ESCALATED TO THIS.

WE WOULD FORGET ABOUT IT AT THE DIOCESE AND, AND MOVE FORWARD AS A TEAM AFTER THAT.

AND, UH, EVEN I'LL EVEN USE A PRIME EXAMPLE.

AND I'M, AND I ASKED YOU GUYS TO DO SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T DO, EVEN DARREN IS SARAH AND WHO HE AND I GOT INTO SOME UGLY BATTLES, SOME HEATED DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, I, I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED TO HIM.

I SAID, LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD HOPE BOTH OF YOU, GENTLEMEN WOULD PUT ASIDE YOUR PRIDE, GET TOGETHER WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR POLICE CHAPLAIN.

AND SEE IF WE CAN COME HAVE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT OR RESOLUTION BETWEEN IF YOU CAN'T, THEN LET'S BRING THE ITEM BACK.

BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS AT LEAST HAVE THAT DIALOGUE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ ON THAT.

AND LISTEN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS.

AND, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL, AND THIS IS FOR PEOPLE OUT THERE.

THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL.

OFF THE TOP.

IT'S NOT, I COULD HAVE MADE A PERSONAL AND I REALLY, I REALLY DON'T WANT THE PERSONAL PART ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT COUNSEL ME, MY MOTHER, ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

I'M BEING PROFESSIONAL HERE.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING THIS WILL ACTUALLY MORE THAN LIKELY HELP TIM IT EXONERATES TIM, AND IT EXONERATES US FROM ANY INKLING OF ANY WRONGDOING, UH, RELATED TO THIS, UH, TO THIS, UH, UH, TO THIS LAND USE ISSUE.

WE JUST RECENTLY HAD OVER, UH, THE RANCH LA HARBOR PROJECT.

THAT'S ALL, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ANY TYPE OF PERSONAL VENDETTA.

ANY OF THAT? OKAY? THIS IS, THIS IS TO BENEFIT US AND TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE BELONG, THAT WE REALLY BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

THIS IS TO DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THESE COMMENTS MADE.

AND IF I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN, I DIDN'T LIKE BEING REFERRED TO AS FOUR OR FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE IN THE POCKETS OF DEVELOPERS AND THAT THE VOTE WAS GOING TO GO A CERTAIN WAY.

OUR RESIDENTS DEMAND BETTER AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS A CARING COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL PHILOSOPHY WHEN I TELL YOU THAT.

AND I DON'T LIKE, I DIDN'T LIKE TO DO IT, BUT NO ONE ELSE DID.

AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND, OR THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THEM AS WELL.

THAT'S IT? WHY, WHY, UM, WHY WOULD YOU SUGGEST TAKING OUT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE TAKEN OUT? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD FEEL THAT AN INVESTIGATION WOULD BE ALL OR NOTHING.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY TAKE THAT PORTION OUT? THE, THE, UH, THE PROPER AUTHORITIES CAN DISTINGUISH THAT AT THE TIME.

IT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION, AS IT IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT THIS.

IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST NOT AN ORANGE COUNTY JURISDICTION PERIOD.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M TAKING IT OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT MORE THAN LIKELY.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, THAT'S NOT A RELEVANCE TO US AT THIS POINT.

WELL, I FEEL TIM IS GUILTY OF HAVING A BIG MOUTH AND SAYING INAPPROPRIATE THINGS.

NONE OF US LIKE WHAT HE SAID.

UM, I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY RAISES THE LEVEL TO A CRIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD HIS PLEA FROM HIS WIFE HERE TODAY.

HIS FAMILY'S HURTING.

YOU'VE BEEN HURT BY IT.

I'VE I THERE'S STUFF ON THERE THAT HAS CAUSED, YOU KNOW, INTEGRITY OF MY PART THAT IS CALLED INTO QUESTION AND NONE OF US LIKE IT.

BUT THEN AGAIN, I SAID, YOU KNOW, CAN WE LOOK PAST THAT, UM, FOR THE HOPE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT JUST THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ROSE ANYTHING.

AND BY THE WAY, FOR THE RECORD, I DID RECEIVE SOME PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, WHO HAVE ASKED THAT, UM, THE LETTER NOT BE SUBMITTED AND THEY ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO COME AND TESTIFY WITH YOUR CONCERNS, UH, TODAY, BUT I DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL OVER THE WEEKEND FROM THEM.

SO THAT'S A NO ON CONTINUING IT, CORRECT? WELL, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

TIM SHAW, ALONG WITH JOSE MADRANO AND SEE IF WE CAN, UM, BRIDGE THE GAP HERE AND SEE IF THEY CAN TALK THIS SITUATION OUT.

IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A MOTION RIGHT NOW? WELL, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT? OH YEAH.

WELL, I, I, MY EMOTION WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OUR POLICE CHAPLAIN, MIKE MURPHY, UH,

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UH, THAT'S MY MOTION.

AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL IF THEY CAN.

IS THERE A SECOND? WELL, I WILL NOT SECOND IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WILLING PERSON TO DO THAT.

SO ANY SECOND FROM ANYBODY.

THAT MOTION FAILS WAS LACK OF A SECOND.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ROSE? OH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

I THINK I I'M GOING TO, I WILL, I'M GOING TO PROVE THIS BECAUSE I WANT IT, I WANT TO CLEAR ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS AND TO EXONERATE THOSE WHO SHOULD BE EXONERATED AND HAVE A CLEAN SLATE.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

I MEAN, I, I KNOW WHAT WAS DONE AND IT PROBABLY BEEN EDITED AND THE INVESTIGATION WE'LL FIND THIS OUT AND WE'LL FIND OUT AT THE END, WHAT, UM, HOW MUCH OF IT WAS EDITED AND WHO HAS, WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THIS.

SO, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH WHAT WAS PUT HER AS FAR AS THE PROPOSAL OR EMOTIVE MOTION.

I'M SORRY, WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS AS IT IS AND PROCEED FORWARD.

WELL, BEFORE SUMMIT SECOND, LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND.

BUT SO I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I'M PROBABLY THE LEAST POLITICAL AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THIS HAS NO BEARING ON MY FUTURE IN POLITICS, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

I KNOW THE FPPC REGULATIONS PRETTY WELL.

UM, I KNOW THE LAW, NOT LIKE A LAWYER, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE A JUDGE, BUT IF YOU WATCH TV EVERY DAY, HOW OFTEN DO YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAYING NICE THINGS ABOUT THEIR COLLEAGUES ON CITY COUNCIL, STATE, GOVERNMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? I MEAN, YOU HEAR THE MEANNESS IN POLITICS TODAY.

I WOULD SAY YOU'D HAVE TO SEND A LETTER ON EVERY POLITICIAN, JUST ABOUT TO THE DA TO BE INVESTIGATED BEING MEAN AND SAYING INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE TO ME, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD ON THE TAPE, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.

AS I SAID A FEW WEEKS AGO, I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

I THINK IT WAS MISSPOKEN.

I TRY TO LOOK AT TIM IN THE CONTEXT OF THINGS.

AND AS WE SAID, THAT'S AN EDITED TAPE TO MAKE HIM LOOK AS BAD AS POSSIBLE.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING WORSE ON THERE OR CRIMINAL IN NATURE, IT WOULD BE ON THAT TAPE.

UH, THERE IS AN ISSUE OF HOW THAT WAS, WHO DID IT, WHY THEY DID IT, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY HELD ONTO IT FOR SO LONG.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S A CRIME HERE NOR AN FPPC VIOLATION.

IT'S MAIN TALK, POLITICIANS TALK MAINLY TO OTHERS.

RESIDENTS QUESTION, OUR INTEGRITY AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY INTEGRITY.

IT'S NOT THE NICEST THING.

THERE'S COUNCILS IN THIS, THAT COUNTY OF ORANGE SAY A LOT WORSE THINGS THAN THEY DO NOW.

IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT WE HAVE THIS DISPUTE GOING ON AND YES, IT WAS EMBARRASSING FOR 10.

HE REALIZES HE SHOULDN'T HAVE UNDERSTOOD IT.

HE APOLOGIZED TO ME PERSONALLY, I ACCEPT THOSE COLOGY.

AND TO ME, THAT'S THE END OF IT.

SO TO KEEP THIS GOING IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, I BELIEVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'M VOTING NO ON IT.

AND IF IT PASSED, I'LL NOT SIGN THE LETTER.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA AT ASSIGNED, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT ON IT.

SO YOUR MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND TO PROCEED WITH THESE LETTERS? I JUST SAID, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

SO YOU RECEIVED AN APOLOGY, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING SAID OF YOU.

I'M SORRY, WHAT YOU RECEIVED AN, YOU RECEIVED AN APOLOGY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW.

UH, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING SAID IN THE TAPING.

I THINK THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO ALL THE COLLEAGUES ON THERE.

WASN'T THERE.

JOSE.

I DID NOT RECEIVE AN APOLOGY.

I DO KNOW HE REACHED OUT TO YOU AND LEFT SEVERAL CALLS, BUT DID HE, I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE ON WHAT PHONE HE TRIED TO REACH YOU? NUMEROUS TIMES HE TOLD ME, HE SAID HE HADN'T RETURNED HIS PHONE CALLS.

NO, I NEVER RECEIVED A MESSAGE OR ANYTHING.

AND I'LL PARDON THE INTERRUPTION AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

AND YES, AND A COUNCIL MEMBER SHOT DID ALSO APOLOGIZE TO ME FOR THE RECORD AND, AND I TO I ACCEPTED AND I APPRECIATED HIS, UH, HIS APOLOGY.

UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, MR. MAYOR, PLEASE DO NOT MISTAKE THIS FOR ANYTHING PERSONAL.

IT'S NOT, IT'S THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT I RECEIVED AFTER THIS ASKING ME, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING AS CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE UP THERE? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TAKING? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU.

I'M A POLICE OFFICER IN MY FULL-TIME JOB.

IT'S BAD ENOUGH AS IT IS FOR THAT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE OUR

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THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

AND I, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DIDN'T DO THIS.

I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS.

AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

I DON'T LIKE DOING THIS.

SOME CONCERNS AND I, AND YOU, AND I CAN TALK PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY THE CONCERNS I HAVE.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEEK ANY PERSONAL PLEASURE IN THIS.

AND I DO FEEL BAD FOR SHANNON SHAW.

SHE'S A VICTIM IN THIS.

YES, BUT I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, NOTHING PERSONAL.

THIS IS TO CLEAR US OF ANYTHING, OF ANY ALLEGATION OF ACCEPTING ANYTHING.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND THAT'S ALL IT IS.

AND I ACCEPT THAT JOSE.

I DID NOT MEAN TO IMPLY IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, THAT THIS WAS A PERSONAL ISSUE BETWEEN YOU AND TIM.

I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.

WE JUST DISAGREE ON THE COURSE OF ACTION TO TAKE.

SO I'VE HAD PLENTY OF CALLS TOO, BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE KNOWN TIM FOR A LONG TIME, THEY GO, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD HE SAY SUCH A THING? IT WAS TERRIBLE.

I AGREE.

IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE.

I AGREE.

UM, LAST TIME WE HAD THE COUNCIL MEETING, HE APOLOGIZED TO EVERYBODY AND ONE OF MY POINTS WAS TOMORROW'S THE ELECTION.

THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO DECIDE HOW BAD THIS WAS.

IF THE COMMUNITY DECIDES HE SHOULD NOT HOLD ELECTIVE OFFICE ISN'T IN ANY MORE THAN SO BE IT THAT'S THE FINAL JUDGMENT IN MY MIND, BUT HE TRIED TO CALL ROSE.

I KNOW THAT SHE DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGE.

I ACCEPT THAT ALSO.

BUT AS I SAID, POLITICS IS A MAIN GAME.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN TAPED.

PEOPLE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT.

I KNOW JOSE AND I, WHEN WE'RE ANYWHERE WE REPRESENT THE CITY.

SO YES, I AGREE.

IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THIS IS JUST A LITTLE OVERBOARD WITH REGARDS TO SENDING SOMETHING TO THE DA, WHEN, AS THE ATTORNEY SAID, AN INDIVIDUAL CAN TAKE THIS WHOLE THING TO THE DA, INVESTIGATE HOW THAT TAPE CAME ABOUT.

HOW DOES THAT LINK WITH ANY OTHER ISSUE IN THE CITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT IT CANNOT BE INVESTIGATED.

YOU YOURSELF CAN GIVE IT TO THE DA.

YOU DON'T NEED THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THAT DECISION, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE APPEARS TO BE A SPLIT.

SO, UM, IF IT GOES TO THE DA, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT THE DA TO INVESTIGATE HOW THAT TAPE CAME ABOUT AND WERE AT LINKS UP WITH ANYBODY.

SO, BUT MY BOTTOM LINE IS POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME.

FORTUNATELY, IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I WOULD JUST LIKE THE FORGIVE AND GET BY IT.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT I TALKED TO THERE IS SOME THAT AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT THE FAR MAJORITY THAT I'VE OFTEN TALKED TO, THEY'RE JUST SHAKING THEIR HEADS AND THEY JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THIS WAS GOING ON.

AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, TIM SAID IT, HE OWNED IT, HE APOLOGIZED FOR IT AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEEP PUSHING THIS AND KEEPING THIS THING GOING, ESPECIALLY WITH AN ELECTION TOMORROW.

SO THAT'S JUST MY POINT.

I CAN'T SUPPORT ROSE'S MOTION, BUT MAYBE LET ME JUST ASK JOSE AGAIN.

SO IS THERE NO WILLINGNESS TO AT LEAST HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH HIM AND CITY ATTORNEY AND, UH, OUR CHAPLAIN AND STEVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE WORDS CLEAN UP, BUT AT LEAST A ANOTHER, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.

AND MAYBE THERE'S A STATEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE.

I MEAN, HE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT WAS GRAND STANDING IN A CLASSROOM IS MY OPINION.

HE'S RIGHT.

AND IT WAS WRONG.

AND I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

ONE BIT IS HORRIBLE.

BUT AS THE MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD.

I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE OTHER COUNCILS AND OTHER CITIES, THEY GET DRAGGED INTO THIS THING AND WE'RE ALL FIGHTING EACH OTHER.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS THING AND TIT FOR DAD AND GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND IT JUST BECOMES A WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT I DON'T WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO GO THROUGH.

AND LIKE I SAID FOR, WELL OVER A YEAR, I MEAN, WHEN I WAS MAYOR EVERY DAY, I'D BE ON THE PHONE WITH THE CITY MANAGER SAYING, WHAT ELSE CAN I DO? WHAT CAN I DO TO BRING THESE GUYS TOGETHER? WE HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE DOWN AT THAT RETREAT, UM, OVER A YEAR AGO, I HAD THE BREAKFAST.

I HAD HAD THE BREAKFAST FOR US.

WE HAD THE DINNER AND HOPE OF AREAS COMING HAND IN HAND AND COMING UNITED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAD EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND I'M NOT GRAND STANDING.

RIGHT.

I'M TELLING YOU, HE DID NOT TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER EVERY DAY.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO BRING THESE TWO GUYS TOGETHER? AND I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT SLOPE GUYS, SERIOUSLY, AND COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I DO AGAIN, AGAIN, THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL AGAIN.

AND I, AND I'LL ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE WHOLE RELATIONSHIP ISSUE.

HOW HAS MY DEMEANOR BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED HERE IN REGARDS TO THAT? WHAT, WHAT IS MY DEMEANOR BEEN LIKE IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHOTS? SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, I HAVE HAD, UM,

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AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT RATHER THAN AIRING THAT OUT.

YEAH.

WITH MY DEMEANOR, CORRECT? HUH? WITH MY DEMEANOR, UH, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

IF YOU'RE NOT VERY BEING VERY HONEST.

AND LIKE I SAID, NUMEROUS, I MEAN, THERE WAS NOT A DAY THAT I WOULD TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER.

IT WAS HEAVY ON MY HEART AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER.

I REALLY DO.

AND HE CAN TALK TO THEM PRIVATELY.

AND THAT HAS BEEN HEAVY ON MY HEART SINCE I WAS MAYOR AS DO I COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND YES, I'M OPEN TO THAT DIALOGUE.

BUT BEFORE, BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, I'M IN A SECOND, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ESPINOSA'S, UH, UH, MOTION.

I WOULD JUST ASK ADD BEFORE WE VOTE, SINCE JOSE BROUGHT IT UP, I FIND, I HAVE FOUND JOSE TO BE AN EXEMPLARY COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, BEYOND REPROACH, IF YOU ASK, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS PRETTY CLASSY AND ALWAYS MAINTAINED AN ERROR PROFESSIONALISM.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT JOSE, IF, SO THE MOTION IS TO SEND BOTH LETTERS AS IS TO THE DA, CORRECT? YEAH.

SO AS IS, OR WITH THE CHANGE THAT MR. MUDRA, THE CHANGE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY REMOVING? I THINK IT WAS SAYING WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.

SO IT'S CHANGED.

FROM WHICH TO ME THAT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ALL OF IT.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD WE PICK AND CHOOSE WHY NOT A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.

IF YOU'RE GONNA GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, I'LL ACQUIESCE ON THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN SEND IT AS THE, AS THE ORIGINAL LETTER WAS STATED.

THAT'S FINE.

YOU'RE FINE.

WITH THE ORIGINAL LETTER.

I'LL I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

CAN YOU SEND THE ORIGINAL LETTER? THAT'S AN ALTERNATE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO SUCK IT.

EITHER WITHDRAW THAT OR MAKE IT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'LL SECOND.

IT ALL RIGHT.

SO THE MOTION IS TO SEND THE LETTERS AS IS TO THE DA TO REQUEST, TO SEE IF THEY'LL INVESTIGATE THE ISSUES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MAGENTO? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ.

NO MAYOR PRO TEM ESPINOSA.

MAYOR BEAMISH OR REASON STATED? NO.

SO TWO, TWO BETTER DOES NOT SUCCEED AND THEREFORE LISTEN TO THE EMOTIONS OF THE MATTERS NOW.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS OR WE'RE GOOD? YEP.

WE'RE GOOD.

MR. MAYOR.

CITY OPERATIONS CONTINUE, AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE BY PHONE OR EMAIL FOR THOSE WHO WISH NOT TO COME TO CITY HALL.

[ MAYOR'S COMMUNITY CALENDAR:]

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO TO THE MAYOR'S COMMUNITY CALENDAR.

AS YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS CREATED A COLOR CODED SYSTEM WITH CRITERIA FOR LOOSENING OR TIGHTENING RESTRICTIONS ON ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

DUE TO COVID-19 ORANGE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY IN THE RED CHAIR, WHICH MEANS SOME NON ESSENTIAL BUSINESSES AND THEY RESUME INTO OUR BUSINESSES OPERATIONS, SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC MEDICAID MODIFICATIONS.

TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT FOR A SAFER ECONOMY, PLEASE VISIT CALIFORNIA'S COVID 19 WEBSITE AT COVID-19 DOT CA.GOV.

THE WEBSITE INCLUDES A SEARCH TOOL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO LEARN THE STATUS OF SPECIFIC COUNTIES AND ECONOMIC SECTORS.

UH, AS WE'VE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS NOW, COVID-19 CAN SPREAD EASILY FROM PERSON TO PERSON AND BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE COVID-19 AND YET DISPLAY NO OBVIOUS SYMPTOMS, SIMPLE ACT OF WEARING A MASK IN PUBLIC AND HELP SLOW THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE.

WEAR A MASK IN ANY INDOOR PUBLIC SPACE.

WHEN WAITING IN LINE, WHEN USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR RIDE SHARING SERVICE AT WORK WHEN NEAR OTHERS ARE MOVING THROUGH COMMON AREAS AND OUTDOORS, IF YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN A SOCIAL DISTANCE OF SIX FEET FROM OTHERS, IF EVERYONE WEARS THE MASK, WE'LL ALL BE BETTER PROTECTED FROM COVID-19.

SO IF YOU'VE NOT VOTED IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE TOMORROW, PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASK, UH, VISIT THE STATE CALIFORNIA COVID NINETEEN.CA.GOV, UH, CITY HALL, SAME INFORMATION LAVA POLICE STATION LOBBY, COMMUNITY CENTER, FRONT DESK ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT ALL OTHER CITY FACILITIES ARE CLOSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

PUBLIC PARKS PARK PLAYGROUNDS IN THE SKATE PARK ARE OPEN.

AND AS YOU HEARD, THERE ARE SOME RULES WITH THAT.

SO WATCH THE SIGNS AS ALWAYS

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IF YOU DO VISIT A CITY FACILITY, PLEASE REMEMBER TO WEAR A MASK OR FACE COVERING FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CALL FIVE SIX TWO THREE EIGHT, THREE 40 10.

VISIT US ONLINE AT DOT GOV OR FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER.

OH, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, ELECTION DAY IS TOMORROW.

THE 20 ELECTION IS BRINGING MANY NEW CHANGES TO THE NEW ELECTIONS ARE CONDUCTED VOTERS.

NOW HAVE SEVERAL CONVENIENT METHODS TO CAST THEIR VOTE, INCLUDING BUILDING FROM HOME, BY MAIL IN BALLOT, DROPPING THEIR BALLOT OFF AT ANY SECURE BALLOT DROPBOX OR BY VOTING IN PERSON IN ANY DESIGNATED VOTING CENTER IN ORANGE.

MY WIFE AND I HAPPENED TO DROP OFF OUR BALLOT AT WALNUT DISTRICT OFFICE, BELLA HARBOR CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT ON WALNUT.

AND WE DID THAT YESTERDAY.

IT WAS GREAT.

WE JUST DROVE IN, DROVE AROUND, DROP THAT OFF AND WE'RE OUT OF THERE.

SO IT'S WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.

YESTERDAY.

THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER A VOTER SENT VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS TO EACH REGISTERED VOTER.

THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 5TH, TO VOTE BY MAIL VOTERS NEED ONLY MARK THEIR BALLOT.

FOLLOWING THE PRINTED INSTRUCTIONS ON THE BALLOT SHEET, THEN RETURNED IT TO THE REGISTER OF VOTERS IN THE ENCLOSED POSTAGE PAGE ENVELOPE.

A VOTER MAY ALSO CHOOSE TO DEPOSIT HIS OR HER COMPLETED BALLOT AND ANY BALLOT BALLOT DROPBOX IN ORANGE COUNTY OR IN THE EVENT, A VOTER WISHES TO CAST HIS OR HER VOTE IN PERSON THEY NEED VISIT ANY ORANGE COUNTY VOTES CENTER GONE ARE THE DAYS OF VOTERS BEING ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC POLLING LOCATION, DETERMINED BY ADDRESS TO LEARN MORE, INCLUDING THE LOCATION OF VOTING CENTERS AND DROP BOX THIS YEAR IN THE HARBOR AND THROUGHOUT ORANGE COUNTY, PLEASE VISIT THE REGISTER OF VOTERS WEBSITE@OSIVOTE.COM.

COMMENTS FROM STAFF.

UH, NONE MS. MAYOR,

[ COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS:]

UH, OKAY.

COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MR. MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO LET HER KNOW.

I ATTENDED THE, UH, THE NORTH GATE, UH, DRIVE THROUGH HALLOWEEN SPOOKTACULAR, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ESPINOSA.

UH, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, SEEMED TO BE WELL ATTENDED.

UH, WELL, UH, WELL DRIVEN THROUGH IF THAT'S EVEN A, A TERM OR A PHRASE, BUT, UH, IT WAS A GOOD TIME FOR ALL IT SEEMED AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

OH, GOOD.

SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, CAUSE WE SAW THAT THING ON FACEBOOK, SO THEY CAME IN AND A CAR, BUT THEY CAN, THEY GET OUT AND TAKE PICTURES LIKE IN DIFFERENT SPOTS OR SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY GET OUT, BUT THE, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, A PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT SET ASIDE.

THEY HAD A, UH, WHAT IS IT, EASY APPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND AS THEY'D COME BY, PEOPLE WOULD, UH, WOULD HAND THEM, UH, OUT OF TOYS AND CANDY AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT IT WAS, UH, UH, I KNOW OUR SENATOR LING-LING CHANG WAS THERE, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, LOCAL REALTORS, RAY FERNANDEZ WAS THERE AS WELL.

AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE.

YEAH, IT SOUNDS, IT SOUNDS LIKE FUN.

IT WAS A PRETTY, A SLOW TRICK-OR-TREATING IN LAHABRA.

I THINK IT WAS, UH, LET'S SEE, JIM, UH, I ALSO GOT THE, UH, NORTH BEACH TOWN CENTER, UH, ALL THE WAY TO THAT.

VERY WELL ATTENDED OUR CENTER LANGUAGE FOR COMING OUT ON THAT.

THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.

UH, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK OUR LAHABRA BIKE PATROL.

I WAS OUT DRIVING AROUND, UH, TRADITIONALLY GOING ON RIDE ALONG ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID, I JUST DECIDED TO DRIVE IN MY OWN CAR AND DRIVE AROUND TOWN.

THEN THEY JUST DID A FABULOUS JOB OVER THE ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT PARTICULARLY OUR, UM, BIKE PATROL GUYS.

THEY WERE ALL OVER TOWN.

I MEAN, THOSE GUYS WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH, DID A TREMENDOUS JOB.

ALSO ENDED MY NIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL, THERE WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EVENT PUT ON BY OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT OF LIKE PARTICULARLY THANK KELLY, DAVE , UH, BERNARD AND KATIE FOR PUTTING THAT EVENT ON, UH, IT WAS WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY, VERY INTERESTING PERFORMANCES AND KUDOS TO THEM FOR BEING ABLE TO PIVOT AND PUTTING TOGETHER AN EVENT ON SUCH A SHORT, SHORT NOTICE.

AND IT WAS FABULOUS.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO BRING SOME HEALING TO THIS COUNCIL.

UM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO LET'S PUT IT BEHIND US.

LET'S GET BACK TO THE WAY IT USED TO BE.

WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE DIFFERENCES HERE, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNCIL, LET'S TRY TO GET ALONG ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I HATE US TO GO DOWN THAT SLIPPERY PATH OF, OF BICKERING BETWEEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STUFF NOT GETTING DONE.

I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I REALLY DON'T.

UM, AND, UM, TOM, I WANT TO THANK YOU IN PARTICULAR.

UM, I HAVE GOTTEN BEATEN UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA VERY BADLY AND IT'S TAKEN A TOLL ON MY MOM AND MY DAD, AND HE TOOK THE TIME TO GO OVER THERE AND TALK TO THEM AND MEANT A LOT TO ME TO THAT.

YOU, YOU

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DID THAT.